How are you going to call people out for arrogance and then proceed to be arrogant

@britpackdog4545

12 күн бұрын

It's called being Keowned

@CTRLALTNUKE

12 күн бұрын

Welcome to Talksport.

@Dave-nq6uy

12 күн бұрын

Martin is 100% correct

@britpackdog4545

12 күн бұрын

@Dave-nq6uy I hope he cries when spurs win

@dutchgrass

10 күн бұрын

​@@Dave-nq6uyhe is never correct

I've met every Spurs fan. All 3 of them have stated that beating Arsenal is more important than finishing top 4.

@Ricardo-ur5os

12 күн бұрын

On the basis that if they were sensible they’d realise they’ve got no chance of winning the champions league anyway - probably the right choice😂

@maneshipocrates2264

12 күн бұрын

So what? Its football heritage rivalry

@ryanbeesley7203

12 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@GermanChickenwing

12 күн бұрын

They are 100% right

@BallJuiceOfZeus

12 күн бұрын

​@Ricardo-ur5os spurs, you mean the team who were recently in the champions league final? 🙄

Every spurs fan has literally said they’re only interested in stopping Arsenal

@danielward7008

12 күн бұрын

Untrue. They'll still try to beat Man City as they want to finish top four.

@TotalAlchemy

12 күн бұрын

You've spoken to every spurs fan?

@markbright662

12 күн бұрын

No they haven’t lol

@pauljansen6650

12 күн бұрын

On KZread and all the forums...its a fact

@Graziak5

12 күн бұрын

That’s the fans. Different for players and managers

Martin isnt lying here...........

@Konnor244

12 күн бұрын

Yes he is, i just watched the game he was talking about and Redknapp doesnt run anywhere to celebrate. He stands still mostly while other come shake his hand. Keane scored a penalty in the 92nd minute, then he and others ran to the corner to celebrate, but thats normal being 2-0 down and coming back to 2-2. Arsenal celebrated more when they drew 2-2 with Chelsea this season than spurs did the season Keown is talking about. So hes talking guff.

@sline3461

12 күн бұрын

no hes not@@Konnor244

@matthewely1235

12 күн бұрын

⁠@@Konnor244they only needed a draw to win the league and they were told they couldn’t celebrate if they beat spurs. Watch Thierry Henry talk about it, when spurs equalised Tarrico laughed in the face of Henry and he replied “you do know a point is all we need” … up until then I don’t think Arsenal would have celebrated with their fans in the corner.

@xXSuperman117

11 күн бұрын

He's chatting bare s. This is a typical arsenal follow. Arrogant and misleading

Martin is absolutely right does Simon Jordan understand what a derby is all about if you can stop your local rivals winning a trophy that is a massive incentive

@Tarek_ElMaddah

12 күн бұрын

He doesn’t, cause his club (Palace) and their rivals (Brighton) are not in the hunt for any titles.

Keown “how can I have a dig at spurs today” 🤔

Every tottenham fan here in social media say i would rather to beat Arsenal instead of top 4, where is the lie?

It comes off as arrogance for a neutral fan but, Martin is only stating what spurs fans say everyday.

@markbright662

12 күн бұрын

No they don’t

@topsadda

12 күн бұрын

And Martin is most certainly a very brilliant man with a very wise head on those broad shoulders..

@dirtygunslinger9835

12 күн бұрын

@@markbright662I live in north London. I know plenty of spurs fans. They do.

@rosscleary9110

12 күн бұрын

@@markbright662 Yes, they do. Stop being completely and utterly wrong.

@ly-son-ibk

12 күн бұрын

​@@rosscleary9110 I live among them little tott-shyit , Martin is 💯 spot on 👍

That's how a rivalry works... Arsenal will have been the same when Spurs played in the Champions League final. If you don't want your side to stop your rivals from achieving something then you simply do not understand what a rivalry is

@xXaftrmthr3ap3rXx

12 күн бұрын

Not much of a rivalry, spurs are arsenals dogs

@TheSwerve222

12 күн бұрын

Nope. Spurs are an irritant when they are trying to be successful. Other than that they are amusing but not particularly important other than twice a year.

@SHEK110

12 күн бұрын

We all knew deep down they weren’t going to win tbh

@nebyatbrhane4823

12 күн бұрын

I don't think Arsenal and Tottenham is a rivalry. It's a Derby though.

@jmo4952

11 күн бұрын

Exactly, Neville says he wants Arsenal to win the league to stop Liverpool and City. Does that mean he lacks ambition for Utd or obsessed with the other 2? No, it's just how rivalries work...

Keown looks like he’s been up all night, throwing darts into a spurs team poster.

Martin isn’t the best, but Simon is just wrong….. Ask any Spurs fan they would give up CL football to stop Arsenal winning the PL…. There are plenty of vids and X posts to support that point

@Cornwall1888

12 күн бұрын

That’s the fans not the manager and the team

@Cafez27

12 күн бұрын

@@Cornwall1888 and that’s a fair point, I suspect CL football is the goal…. I wonder if Ange changes his style, I just can’t see Spurs beating us if they play that high line?

@Ricardo-ur5os

12 күн бұрын

@@Cornwall1888what I came to say. He’s clearly talking about Ange and the players not the fans

@PaulClarke-dv5sr

12 күн бұрын

Are you going to the NLD on Sunday plastic?

@justlooking1087

12 күн бұрын

@@Cafez27 yes, it’s a fair point, and that’s Simon’s point that he repeated at least twice in this video lol.

The spurs players definitely will not be stepping onto that pitch with the intention to lose just so they can ruin Arsenal’s title charge, you just don’t have that mentality as a football player. However, to think that the spurs fans would not happily lose to Man City so Arsenal won’t get a title is just plain wrong.

I can say as a Tottenham fan we want both, we want to get top four and we want to stop Arsenal from winning the title.

I support spurs and honestly would rather them finish 5th and Arsenal 2nd then Spurs 4th and Arsenal 1st. Be realistic, with Ange’s naive, throw everyone forward and play a ridiculously high line and get exposed on the counter attack every match, and fail to be able to defend set piece tactics - we would get embarrassed in Champions League anyways.

@sline3461

12 күн бұрын

an honest fan, nice to see

As a Tottenham fan, our fanbase has been through tough times such as seeing our biggest rival clinching the league title at our home stadium twice. And even in Arsenal’s lean yrs, they were able to celebrate FA cups and community Shields. If we won of the big trophies during our Pochettino days, it would’ve been a huge monkey off our backs, but we haven’t. We suffered through four managers fired, our greatest striker leave our club with nothing to show for, while we’re looking forward to Postecoglou’s Tottenham, if you know our history, it can also end in another disaster.

@syc2543

12 күн бұрын

W Spurs fan with astute self consciousness. No hard feelings but I do hope we win even if it's at your expense. It's not even about you guys it's about us. We've languished a lot with unfulfilled potential. From the 08-12 side. The 13-16 sides and the 17-21 'banter' side. It's just time to let these 2 decades of pain go. It may be nice to brag to Spurs, Chelsea and UTD but right now it's bigger than our rivals. It's about righting our ship and getting our club into the right trajectory. To chase more league titles and European pedigree that had eluded us for too long. We chasing to be a Giant club.

@peggi18

12 күн бұрын

It will end in tears it always does and always will with levy about because his trophy is top 4 amd that’s all he wants

@kezmankezman758

12 күн бұрын

@@peggi18. Why can’t people see for him it’s only about the money. He sacked Mourinho days before the League Cup final so as not to have to pay him a bonus for winning a trophy. With Mourinho almost certainly Tottenham had more of a chance to win it 🤔

Jim saying what's wrong with over celebrating is hilarious😂hypocrisy at its finest

@OptimusPrime_84

12 күн бұрын

That is hilarious.😂😂😂

"And theres a shape of a fruit" at the end😂😂😂

Keown is right though - ask any Spurs fan if they want Arsenal to win the league over finishing top 4 and they say 'Arsenal not to win it' 95% of the time.

@Ricardo-ur5os

12 күн бұрын

They’re talking about the players ffs how have you just listened to a 10’min video and not grasped that

@Crovon1

12 күн бұрын

@@Ricardo-ur5os lol, calm down! :)

@agamemnon730

12 күн бұрын

@@Ricardo-ur5osyou’re correct, the players are busting their ass to honour the chicken on their shirt

@glennthfc9346

12 күн бұрын

Being in the top 4 doesn't benefit us, only Levy

Y'all should understand Simon needs to disagree for the views. Even he doesn't believe what he is saying here

Keown an absolute clown "All they were interested in was finishing above Arsenal", which club created a day in celebration of this exactly? Hmmm

Not sure wtf Keown is talking about a shifting of power in the 2002 season. United won it in 2003 and then Arsenal won their 3rd and last (to date) PL title in 2004. United continued to dominate in the PL until Ferguson retired. There was no shifting of power at all. Guy’s a clown

Keown is right. We don't expect Spurs to stop Man City for Arsenal

I've been watching Spurs for over forty years - I can't see us getting anything out of Sunday's game, as we're a cut below the Woolwich at present. It'd be too much to take if that lot were to win the league.

Simon underestimates Spurs' pettiness

Jamie Redknapp never scored a free kick and he did not run around, he scored and ran bk to the halfway line cos it was a goal dat got us back in the game

I used to think Martin Keown looks stupid ( externally) in his playing days....now I confirmed that.

How long left on Keown's contract with Talksport?

Tottenham only interested in finishing above spurs. Yet it was aresenal that invented the St Totteridge day rubbish

Keown is right of course local rivals dont wanna do anything to help each other on the pitch.

For once Martin is right. Spurs are obsessed with Arsenal

Bobby Davro said it best on Sky last week. “As Spurs fans we want to win. We strive for greatness, we despise lateness. We fight, they might, but we all feel the spite. Let’s drive drive drive.”

Imagine telling a player that was part of it, witnessed what was going on in the dressing rooms, add to that the amount of totntehan fans themselves & even players in past who have said things like “the biggest thing now is to stop Arsenal winning…” because their season was already finished.

I'm an Arsenal fan, my brother is a spurs fan. His last text on the subject, "Any spurs fan would tell you they'd give up champions league before seein arsenal win the prem". For context, he was gloating over Aston Villa's win over Arsenal, to which I pointed out Villa's success means no champions league for spurs.

But genuinely the results Tottenham fans such as Expressions have celebrated the most in the last 2 seasons, have all involved Arsenal dropping points, villa some weeks back and the results at the end of last season. Not even Spurs’ wins over Liverpool or United or their recent wins which would help them secure top 4

As a Spurs fan for about 30 years, Keown is right. Henry speaks about Taricco celebrating a 2-2 draw in his face when Arsenal also won the league that day. It was a pathetic losing mentality that Spurs had and to hear other Spurs fans wanting us not to win matches in order to affect other results is a lack of self respect. Spurs need to break that pattern, and hopefully Postecoglou is in the process of instilling a more ambitious mentality at the club.

Im a spurs fan and we have nothing to play for now. We arent getting top 4 and who cares if we do, we arent good enough for CL. All I care about is arsenal not winning so hes right tbf

@ironiron-nf3oc

12 күн бұрын

We see it on sunday if you can stop us or you will cry 😢COYG

Funny coming back after the derby and every spurs fan saying they are gonna throw the game against city on purpose, keown was spot on

Yet Arsenal or Wenger never won the CL , Keown is a laughable character.

@wongmbantul

12 күн бұрын

And Spurs did? 😆

@petermallon8262

12 күн бұрын

Got robbed against Barca remember. Yous are nothing and have won nothing and will never ever win anything. Little boy

I haven’t come across many fans who aren’t as Keown says.

"Slams" how many times had that been used this week!! 😂

Jordan is bang on

Martin is so right . Spurs' main goals are only to hate Gunners not even winning domestic silvers😮

Keown is on Troll patrol. He’s very worried and now has melted down on national radio. His hypocrisy is outstanding. And at no time was there a shift in power, Man Utd were always better. He is a very bitter man.

@airfixx_8952

12 күн бұрын

All Kleown ever ends up doing is trolling himself.

Keown has been spiralling today😂😂😂

I’ve heard lots of Spurs fans say they would choose to miss out on top 4 if it means Arsenal lose the league

Thumbs down for loud volume of jingle at the end

Spurs can achieve both aims by beating Arsenal. But the litmus test is whether Spurs would 'roll over' against City just to stop Arsenal. It's the second last match of the season for both City and Spurs and both Arsenal and Villa would have just one more game left. We would get a much clearer picture of the how the title race and top 4 race would finish by then.

Fans will have that motivation but the players and coaches won't. People forget that the players and coaches have no affiliation to the club except being employed, they're all professionals and want to win. Liverpool nearly gave United the title by beating Blackburn on the final day of the season.

Even in before arsenal vs aston villa spurs fans were calling your show and claming it's better if villa win so that arsenal is not getting points and their main rivals for the champions league is villa. Spurs fans care more about arsenal than anything else.

Martin says Spurs fans only think about Arsenal and then he goes on and on about Spurs. Can someone please explain to him (in slow and clear terms) the irony of that.

@AngeOutEnicOut

12 күн бұрын

He is just projecting Ars*nals obsession with Tottenham onto Spurs fans. The bloke is ridiculous, his club invented "St.totteringhams day" ffs. Of course we don't want our rivals winning the league, any club would use that as motivation in a Derby. This is projection of the highest order. What a melt.

When Chelsea drew 2-2 so Leicester won the league, it was both one of Chelsea and Arsenals fans best memories. Get off your high horse Keown, if I was spurs manager , I’d make sure we lost 20-0 to city to swing the goal difference back !

this is the simple case of when you think you are smarter than you actually are.

Is Martin that Dom that he can't see jim and simon makes him a fool every time he is at the studio

What difference does it make. Use whatever you like to motivate you.

Martin is spot on.

I don't believe any manager would go out to lose a game to stop a rival winning keown talking rubbish I agree many suprs fans might but not the manager or players

The amount of times that Simon makes Martin look a Berk

Yet last season those reprobates on arsenal tv were using the excuse of winning nothing was finishing above united! Shut up martin!

Martins 100%right cos Ohara said it las wk after the Wolves game Ohara) *hopefully Spurs will stop Arsenal from winning the Title, id rather Tottenham finish 5th if it meant Arsenal don't win.* Cundy agreed with Phara in stopping Arsenal being more important than Chelsea getting in European places Some Rotts fans said it aswell

Remember when Jordan couldn’t understand why Keown, an prominent ex Arsenal player, wouldn’t be allowed to become a referee and ref a Manchester United game. Some genius him

I mean, come on now. I am an Arsenal fan myself but that's the kind of hurdle that we need to overcome if we want to be champion. If we lose to Spurs this weekend then we don't deserve the tittle, simple as. And it is none of Spurs fault whatsoever.

Martin is just embarrassed Arsenal finished beneath spurs 7 years in a row with a higher budget

keown is a underrated arsenal legend always backs ys

Of course it is. Everton the same did you see their joy at stopping Liverpool having a chance. Don’t be so closed to the idea

the fans motivation is what drives the club to strive to be bigger and better. If the fans are happy finishing above another club then doesn't it let the owners off the hook and they don't have to invest and/or try to win anything?

Has someone told Martin to ham it up and be controversial- he is usually dull as dishwater. Now he’s throwing out grenades every two minutes!

Was he talking about Liverpool were playing that football in the 80s

Martin has a point, Everton are exactly the same.

Tottenham and Everton take the rivalry with their neighbours seriously and definitely take pleasure in throwing a spanner in the works. Man.Utd however have not been a challenge for City for a long, long, long time! This will be the big difference in the title run this season.

2002 was such a shift of power that United won the league the following season 🙄🙈🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂😂

For some reason Martin Keown is making this an either/or thing. But from a fan perspective it is both. I want Spurs to win things first and foremost, and I never want Arsenal to win anything. It just happens that Spurs aren't very good at being successful and Arsenal are more so in recent decades. So all you are left with as a Spurs fan each year is "please don't let Arsenal win anything to rub salt in the wound of us not winning anything again". It's really not that complicated. Simon is right though, to think the players and manager are overly bothered about Arsenal winning the title in this day and age is ludicrous, unless they are Tottenham through and through academy players.

Man united fans dont care if Man city win the title, cause does not mean anything to anyone like they won the treble and nobody talked about it after that

Martin Keown doing everything possible to convince us that he is 12 years old.

11 red bottles Emery is the best manager in the prem

Actually agree with Martin for once, he's right on this

Martin is 100% right.

Martin has just given the Tottenham players even more motivation 🤡

The drive to win the game because of its importance to the fans both sets of fans but top four is a possibility so martins arrogance doesn’t help the debate no team no matter how big have a Devine rights win anything.

Tottenham wouldn't play with the same strength compared to man city

Can't believe talksport are actually paying keown for his opinion. Pathetic.

It's reality Spurs care more about stopping Arsenal than anything else for the game. Because that would please them more. It's a fact.

Keown really has an uncanny knack of making himself look a tool doesn’t he 😂

Both fans have a mutual obsession fact

Spurs will play open like always and get 5 in by Arsenal. Spurs need a real manager.

You just know Keown has got Arsenal bedding and pyjamas

Tottenham fans I think want nothing more than to stop arsenal I have friends who have said this. But the the players, staff and club it’s not the reason why they wanna win. I believe Martin is still thinking in the mindset of the spurs he played against they’re different now although they have no trophies (lol) the ambition is very different to the spurs Martin played.

The players r not like that, the fans r..

How do they get on TV and radio ,🤮

Martin is salty today...but he isn't necessarily wrong!

he said it’s at player level but keeps on going on about the fans 😂 i can’t believe he’s not trolling 😂 how can he tell anyone what their motivations are 😂

How can spurs stop arsenal from winning the prem when villa already have ?

Arsenal have been in the top four twice in the last 8 years...Martin is very very bitter.

SIMON THAT TELLS ME YOU HAVE NO KNOLEDGE OF THE NORTH LONDON DERBY,SO THAT DISQUALIFIES YOU FROM ANY REMARKS YOU MAKE,SIMON TAKE THIS ON THE CHIN

What else is their motive Simon ?? They don’t win trophies, they don’t even get to any finals, what are their motives season after season?

There’s a occasion by the name of Saint Totteringham’s Day by the way Mr Keown

Thank god Keown never played for any of the old firm then he would know all about stopping rivals winning a league

Big up mr keown Arsenal forever 🎉🎉

I have been a Spurs for 67 years , Both sets of fans used to stand together at both Highbury and WHL. I want Spurs to finish fourth and ARSENAL to win the league . Because they are playing great football and I love watching great football. Yes I know 95% of Spurs fans will say I'm a traitor. I want Arsenal to beat Man City. Because City have bought their success . And it looks like to me who has consulted for FIFA Compliance. That some of this "financial" success has been against the Premiership rules . BUT nothing seems to be able to be done about it. Why is this? Of course I want Spurs to beat Arsenal. And that nearly for certain will give Man City the title. So my first statement is really a paradox. So be it.

Martin Keown is considered a prat amongst the Arsenal fans. Arsenal are not winning anything under a serial bottler in Arteta. Spurs were in a Champions league final. Personally, I don't give a damn about Levy's trophy of 3rd loser. Or Levy's narrative of success by finishing above Arsenal.

Is that an Arsenal “legend” complaining about over-celebrating? 😂😂😂