Rich mans war, poor man's fight.some things never change

@OdysseyK

2 жыл бұрын

It will always be that way.

@1991beachboy

2 жыл бұрын

War never changes

@joeblow1748

Жыл бұрын

Slave and king

@mzeewatk846

Жыл бұрын

But maybe we at least staved off MAGAQ for a couple more years. : l

@warriorsheartcosplay3016

Жыл бұрын

@@1991beachboy you're right. The only differences are the technology, the strategies and tactics.

I can’t imagine being in a battle that you know that you are never going to make it out of alive. That’s a special kind of bravery

@juanleahy2202

4 жыл бұрын

tavisxavier i

@evacelik6857

4 жыл бұрын

HM theyvwere men made of the land Gotland. They are still of the same mind. Gutar the salt of the earth

@evacelik6857

4 жыл бұрын

@Paul deTorch 👍👍👍👍

@aidanrosier47

4 жыл бұрын

And that is why it is important to honour the dead.

@criticviking

3 жыл бұрын

They rather died than paying higher taxes.

I’ve heard it argued that the Gotlanders were used to that in a battle you’d fight until one side surrendered, and then you’d negotiate terms, but the Danish army did not stop to negotiate, they just finished them off to the last man. If that is the case, they may have thought that just showing up and showing bravery in battle might give them better terms, but instead they got slaughtered.

@hampusdahlborn9203

6 ай бұрын

Probably not, the Gotlanders were a peasant army of ca 1800 troops, wich was almost the entire male peasant population of the island (fighting age: 15-60 years old, with some getting left behind incase they lost the battle, wich shows that they did know that they might get destroyed). Every gotlander was forced by law to have armor and weapons at home, incase of an inavsion. However the peasants relations with the city of Visby (the only city with conections to the mainland) was really bad, wich is probably why they were left outside without support from the city. They also had a real plan for the battle. They were suppose to make the terrain really bad and clayey (not sure if it's the right term) so the danish would get stuck and not have much mobolity, causing a retreat. However the days during the battle was unusually hot, causing the ground to solidify causing the plan to fail. With this along with other more minor reasons, the gotland-peasant army was pretty much obliterated, with ca 1800 cassualties vs the 300 danish ones. here's some sources: SVT: Sverige genom tiderna (documentary supported by the government of Sweden). Gotlands Museum, state supported national museum about Gotlands history. wikipedia (mainly for cassualties)

The title is a misnomer. Visby did not make a last stand--the local farmers did. The Gute, local farmers, made a heroic last stand.

I do not understand why this video is called "Visby's last stand", Visby didn't stand up to anything that day. They let the Gotlanders get slaughtered and then opened the gates to the danes.

@AlxzAlec

3 жыл бұрын

HAHA DENMARK WINS🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰

@bandiriatraveler8343

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlxzAlec Go play with your legos.

@AlxzAlec

3 жыл бұрын

@@bandiriatraveler8343 Go play with your funiture

@bandiriatraveler8343

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlxzAlec Nah bro, I'm too busy eating burgers and shooting guns.

@AlxzAlec

3 жыл бұрын

@@bandiriatraveler8343 so you are texan or what

The peasants and fishers, the countryside folk on Gotland were predominantly Swedish, while Visby and its townfolk were largely of German and Danish descent.. Valdemar Atterdag in Denmark is mentioned as Valdemar the great, but in Sweden he went under the name Valdemar the tyrant. Later Vasa dealt with both the German hanseatic league and the Danes.

@lasselippert3892

Жыл бұрын

"The Great" was a different Valdemar (Valdemar I). "Atterdag" was Valdemar IV.

@oddjonsson2815

11 ай бұрын

Hey look at that, similar to Stockholm

@billywiththebulgingbaloonb5105

11 ай бұрын

Valdermar Atterdag was never called Valdemar the Tyrant in Sweden.

Very glad to see a documentary about Swedens medieval wars! Swede here btw

@andygaras

4 жыл бұрын

Omg a real life swede

@mihjq

4 жыл бұрын

@@andygaras Genuine Suede?

@dennislindqvist8443

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting but sad though. A professional army against farmers. War was brutal back then, and it's still brutal.

@t.7721

4 жыл бұрын

@Wroger Wroger the chef is from the netherlands

@cronulla70

3 жыл бұрын

@@andygaras 😂🤟

I was born on Gotland and still live here, not very far from the mass graves. I always have thought that those graves were closer to the wall. Also I have never seen the armour before. That the Danes buried it all to prevent an uprising makes sense to me.

@lowkey_gaming5956

2 жыл бұрын

I heard it's getting bad there now cz of all the Russia stuff . Is that true ?

@eken81

2 жыл бұрын

@@lowkey_gaming5956 Depend on how you define bad, I think. I have heard that specifically American cruises skip Visby, because of a belief I think that its worse than it is. Others are stoping by. More military sure. Stuff cost more, as for the rest of the world. Outside of this its largely business as usual. For now.

This a cautionary tale to always maintain a highly trained professional military, especially if you have wealth.

I'm so impressed with their pronunciations during the whole documentary. Perfect, well done.

The cuts dealt with thoses swords are absolutely so horrific and gruesome, it’s truly mind numbing.....

The Gotlanders were betrayed by Visby. I hope the people of Visby lost a lot of sleep because of their betrayal.

this is actually the most badass documentary on yt on the subject.

I visited visby last year, incredibly beautiful city

They weren't feudal peasants. Sweden was never feudal, the farmers were always landowners.

@issyd2366

2 жыл бұрын

But an aristocracy existed and still exists.

@issyd2366

Жыл бұрын

@Marcus They couldn't prevent the peasents from moving away from their lands if they wanted to, but they ruled the land from an administrative point of view as well from an agricultural one. As for the modern take , nobility is still nobility and the royal family for example is not just empty titles but the real deal.

Back then, that island was worth more than any landmass of the same size, anywhere in Scandinavia, maybe even Europe, it was a *MAIN* trade hub, and the one who controlled it got the taxes, if I remember correctly, Valdemar took a loan from German bankers to hire mercenaries, and they only said yes because they knew how much money it generated, so they were sure he could pay them back.

@Mukation

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, it was the main hub for the entire northern part of the Hanseatic league. Goods from both the northern parts of Sweden, Finland down towards the mainland europe. The closest comparison to Gotlands importance is what Crete was for the ancient agean sea was for trade between the greeks, persians and egyptians etc. An Island hub, resting place for travelers and traders etc.

@snb6642

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comments here. They helped me to understand why the Visbians didn't offer assistance to the Gotlanders in that moment of great need. Thanks

@lisacraig1894

Жыл бұрын

Sort of like our American presidents’ son; having 8-12% of his holdings in a company that loans money to people illegally and legally crossing the American border…. Including the trained militia that is crossing!

If I had been a Dane then after the slaughter at the wall, the town that shut their own people out would have been next and without mercy.

@VikingsRBloodyAwsome

4 жыл бұрын

It's possible they were spared because a large portion of them were germans. The city people within the walls of Visby were largely non-Swedish while the farmers outside the walls were Swedish. This is relevant since the attacking "danes" were almost entirely made up by german mercenaries.

@dennislindqvist8443

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was both cruel and stupid. They did not meet the same fate as the Gotlanders but Visby as a wealthy city was over.

@daneaxe6465

4 жыл бұрын

This whole story is so ironic. Valdemar was there to extract booty from the merchants & city of Visby, a Hanseatic city. He had no beef with the Swedish peasants. But if you ask for a fight you will probably get a fight. I doubt we will ever know why the Swedish peasants got themselves slaughtered to defend a German/Hanseatic city, whose residents hated the peasants.

@t.j.payeur5331

3 жыл бұрын

The town of Visby was a German Hanseatic League colonial trade city. They weren't Swedish at all and the Gotland peasants were Not their people.

@kentabrahamsson

3 жыл бұрын

It was simple logic. Danish king Valdemar wanted the city to continue to trade and bring in taxable amounts to the Danish crown in the future as well. The Hanseatics in Visby counted on that. If the traders would be slaughterd, there would be no future trade to tax. Instead there was a handsome ransom paid to the Danes that kind of financed the whole venture. The island and the city ended up as Danish for some hundred years ahead with tax income until the turning point in the 17th century when the Swedes conquered almost all of Denmark east of Öresund.

With ancestors from Visby and Denmark it's incredibly exciting to learn about this history!

@mzeewatk846

Жыл бұрын

I recommend keeping the Visby connection to yourself.

@marcusaurelius3487

Жыл бұрын

@@mzeewatk846 why

@mzeewatk846

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusaurelius3487 Now I'm not sure that I didn't confuse the battle of Visby with another Hanseatic City. The account I heard, was that the citizens locked the farming community out of the gates and left them to be massacred by a Danish army before ransoming themselves. It happened hundreds of years ago, in any case.

They said they found lots of treasure troves around the area. That’s because everyone tried to bury all their money before the invasion, so the invaders wouldn’t find it, intending to retrieve it later, but were too dead to do so.

I've been to these catacombs of bones in Stockholm and the people there then didn't talk so much of swords but of poleaxes or similar long weapons. First a hammer of crossbow bolt followed by this wall of long, heavy, things where the gotlanders simply couldn't reach the enemy. They described it as trying a fist fight against a modern harvester. The sword and Warhammer were just to finish things off. Never the pacifist per se, I can't help but thinking, had they just stayed at home, Valdemar would simply have cared only for the wealthy city.

Excellent just made my day

Sure would be nice to hear the voices of the people speaking in the video. The audio mix is horrible (as usual) and the narrator & music is 10 decibels louder than everything else. The captions help a little but get much of it wrong since the dialog is so faint. Why can't the producers fix this persistent problem?

moment of silence for brave farmers who chose to fight rather than live under danish tyranny. Shame on the memory of the cowards shutting their fellow islanders out to certain death

I love this kind of documentary

Still waiting for Timeline to make a video about Battle of Kosovo field in 1389, now that battle was complete slaughter and if numbers mentioned online are correct more then 20,000 to 30,000 died in one day, maybe even more if the story are true which they should be considering both Christian and Muslim sources mention the battle in many documents.

The audio lvl is too low. I had problem watching on my phone

@Dr.Instabil

2 жыл бұрын

The music is to loud so the voices drown

Excellent documentary 👏👏🍿

Visby was not the capital of Gotland, rather a city which had seceded from Gotland.

I love this kind of stuff very interesting.

The Danes were quite cunning, I can sense the pain and screaming from this battlefield even 658 years later, brave men all of them!

@heinedenmark

4 жыл бұрын

I'm a Dane. Nothing we are proud of. But we have fought each other back and forward a thousand years or so. And things were brutal back then. Best friends today thou.. together with Norway. The idea of a united Scandinavia is gaining a lot of momentum these days.

@carlhassler5336

4 жыл бұрын

For a long while the taxing of Visby was a historic item though to have taken place. However, recent theories makes it more of a propaganda play by Visbyites to deflect from the fact that they made a separate peace with the danes after the battle. It explains to some degree why still Visby today is seen as separate from Gotland proper by locals.

@TheFagerlund

2 жыл бұрын

@@carlhassler5336 nah Visby is just so different from the rest of the island so it just kinda feels off sometimes thats why

This archeologists should have asked any historical reenactor about the wounds. Leg wounds are mark that Gotlanders were fighting in shieldwall. Upper body was protected by shield, helmet and armour but legs were easy target.

@kajsan760

2 жыл бұрын

Thomas Neijman, the guy who showed the sword cutting in the documentary, is a 14th century reenactor. So they did ask a reenactor. (But maybe they only asked him very leading questions, I don't know.)

@adamconnolly4620

Жыл бұрын

I like your thoughts on the shield wall. It's really the only strategy that the peasants and farmers would have. Protestors today form shield walls against a stronger force.

Great audio mixing

My 21 and 22nd GGFATHERs were Mayors of of Visby before and after this brutal battle between Danish King and Visby And my 29th GGFATHER was a Gotlander Johan Silkentopp born 1170. 21. Köpman. Borgmästare Markward II Bretholt b. circa 1395, Visby, Gotland, Sweden; d. before April 14, 1476, Tallinna 22. Borgmästare Markward I Bretholt b. after 1350, Visby, Gotland, Sverige; d. circa 1401, Reval (Tallinn)

@neulasia

2 жыл бұрын

hello, distant cousin! these people are my supposed ancestors, too.

great video _

Valdemar Atterdag was the danish king, not the Swedish king.

The unique findings of armor and the personal effects of the vanquished from a time when looting was standard operating procedure in war and on battlefields could support the ascertain that the attacking force were highly experienced professionals and couldn't be bothered with the inferior equipment of the local militia.

Here because of Elin Abrahamsson’s @sewingthroughthepast Battle of Visby vlog

I was shocked to see the skulls filled with healthy teeth. People in Gotland must have had a proper and truly nutritious diet.

@iamjsams755

2 жыл бұрын

They had better teeth than me and I've never been hit in the face with a battle axe.

@suspicioustumbleweed4760

2 жыл бұрын

They didn’t have much sugar to rot them.

@DrArku

2 жыл бұрын

That's because people around here used to live mostly on vegetables, fish and meat. Everything was natural and sweets were more of a rare treat than anything. Also some dental care was taken. Scandinavians would have special picks for cleaning their teeth, I've heard that Estonians used to chew pine sap to clean their teeth. It was basically like medieval gum.

I don't understand why the peasantry fought to defend Visby? The invaders were after the riches in the town. The militia could have just stood back and minded their own business. There has to be more to the story.

@lisacraig1894

Жыл бұрын

Jay15009, it is possible that the wealthy were part of the financiers to the Danish and German army; as the locals had just had an uprising and civil type war earlier in that century. If the town let the militia in, they might have been able to last… but then they also might throw another uprising if they lived.

Why is the sound so quiet? The same problem on Amazon too. I give up.

King Valdemar was Danish, not Swedish

@heinedenmark

4 жыл бұрын

De har bare sat et komma forkert.

@bradmiller2329

3 жыл бұрын

Valdemar IV of Denmark .... quite audible.

It’s amazing that the spurs look like the modern day spurs we can buy at my local Tractor Supply.

@26:00, it makes more sense that they were buried in their armor as an honor for fighting, and dying, well.

I have been in Visby and seen the wall myself it was so impressive to see.

@ravenn8600

8 ай бұрын

ACK

Doesn't the date of this battle overlap with the time of the Black Death?

Finally!

They were buried with their armor because the Danes didn't want it used against them and it was inferior to the victors armor.

I wonder about the women and children. Were they slaughtered, also. Or hidden in another country. How sad.

@hermanspaerman3490

2 жыл бұрын

The women and children were , as far as we know, left relatively unscathed. I have never heard or read of any particularly brutal acts committed by the Danes against non combatants, but then again, this is medieval times and sources are scarce. What we do know is that the Gotlanders buried their wealth all around the island , to prevent the Danes getting their hands on them, and many of these treasures are found still today. One would think that these treasures would have been recovered after the battle by the surviving family members but they weren't, so we can only speculate of what happened to them.

Born, raised and lives in Visby;)

The cut off foot I would think might have been an attack from behind while the gotlander was occupied with one soldier another came from behind and struck the man in the leg with a downward strike amputating the foot which would have rendered the man immobile on the ground and easily killed at a later time

Why the volume so low? :(

One best sources for reactors doing this era and generaly about battle of militia againts pro soldeirs of that time how quick it could be and general likely battle injurie. I use it as a great source do in a neutral stand point as not to bias anything. Great documantay.

@blackmanogco

4 жыл бұрын

Do it was more of a slaugter then battle.

@noproblem2big337

4 жыл бұрын

@@blackmanogco totally agree, it would be great if we knew the casualties sustained by the Danes but I suspect very few if any, still that's how it was back then, a close and personal bloodbath...

@blackmanogco

4 жыл бұрын

@@noproblem2big337 Ye. Do fron talhofens manuel standpoint a fight would lasted e blows or 30 sec and also a train mercenary army in line formation with best gear and training. I suspect very few mecenaries from danes died most would been first timers or less experiance and armoured of the danish mecenaries as not all had full gear. Some would just had gambeson and little else then spear or axe and shield.

A very violent Island historically.

👑

"Nearly all the skeletons had signs of trauma" Facepalm. Its a huge battle. Most obvious statement ever.

@jim8310

4 жыл бұрын

And we know it was a huge battle because? the skeletons, and the trauma on them..

@pansprayers

2 жыл бұрын

@@jim8310 well, and historical records. You just confirmed that the floor is made out of floor.

Not to nitpick, but hitting the shield with the edge of the sword will dull the blade. They should be using the flat side.

RIP Heroes

658.4 years ago.

These German mercenaries, Landsknechts? I don’t know exactly when they were known by that name.

Usually enemies rob the dead for weapons and armor. However, the Swedes gear was so out of date they left them alone. And that rarely happened in the medieval period or before.

"give me a war, not a cause"...said no one...

@bradmiller2329

3 жыл бұрын

Except every mercenary and camp follower, ever.

If they were peasants… why did they have armor and such?

@1991beachboy

2 жыл бұрын

Because Visby at the time was one of the richest cities in the world upon a time during the hanseatic league

Valhalla greets them "Skål"

@elsakristina2689

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry but by the time this battle took place in the 14th century, the Viking Age was over and they were Christians now.

So the gottlanders stood, locked outside the city of visby, protecting it? Why?

@tracishea5053

4 жыл бұрын

No. The militia were Gutnish country yeomen. They were no friend to the Visby merchants, who, as mentioned, built that wall to make them pay taxes. The famers were fighting for their land, homes and families. Pretty much no one wants to be ruled by foreigners. When someone invades, you fight. The city inhabitants thought they could negotiate with the Danes instead, and that was the beginning of the end for them. Visby went for the richest city in the Baltics to a dot on the map in record time.

@dennislindqvist8443

4 жыл бұрын

@@tracishea5053 You meant of course the Baltic Sea, not the Balkans. The invaders were Danes with German mercenaries. You talked about negotiating with the Dutch? Have I missed something?

Why didn’t they let them in? The poor militia.

@lisacraig1894

Жыл бұрын

I think they didn’t let them in because the German/Danish military might have been partially paid by some of the ruling wealthy behind the wall. The ones that were angry the farmers had an uprising earlier in the century.

My land!

I am guessing they are underestimating the use of polearms, especially pole axes, by the Danes and Germanic mercenaries. Polearms, spears, and axes were far more common on the battlefield they is often depicted. Polearms, especially pole axes, would have had the reach to chop at the legs and shins of the Gotlanders.

@arnareriksson5077

2 жыл бұрын

German and germanic are not synonym with eachother, germanic are a people, not a nationality.. Us Scandinavians are also germanic

@gregwasserman2635

2 жыл бұрын

@@arnareriksson5077, of course, there was no "Germany" until 1870. The Germanic people had been around for centuries.

It amazes me that all those Visby dead weren't stripped of their armor before they were buried. I thought that was common practice in medieval times. All that armor would have been made by hand, and things like chain mail hauberks were worth a lot of money. Even if the armor had been damaged in the battle, it could have been repaired and re-sold, or scrapped and re- forged into tools or farming implements.

@marcuscorder

Жыл бұрын

According to historian, John Keegan, the hot weather (late July), and great number of the dead meant they began decomposing before the Danes had a chance to strip the majority of them of anything besides their helmets.

why on earth didn't they remove the armour? Everything metal most have been valuable back then! *edit(I should have finished watching before asking questions!)

Those are the bones of my ancestors family members 😯

@ReginnKunnr

2 жыл бұрын

Bit late for an apology I know, but either way, a big heartfelt sorry from Denmark.

Is this show about some archaeologists or the battle?

if we did "war" this way, there would be a whole lot fewer wars.

Weren't they supposed to be laid to rest already, why dig them up from their resting place?

Very good, but I disagree with some statements.. At 38:30 this cut foot no way this was done by a sword. Or both feet as mention cut of with one hit?!? No way with a sword blade. Something else was used. Maybe a heavy battle axe but not a sword.

@bradmiller2329

3 жыл бұрын

A great sword?

@TheFagerlund

2 жыл бұрын

A heavy sharp sword would've done it (Edit: have you handled a super sharp sword before?)

@adamconnolly4620

Жыл бұрын

Think about it. How easy it is to chop through a fresh steak bone? Just using a small cleaver. A good heavy sword would have no problem taking legs or feet off.

1215 was the English Magna Carta signed after 17 years of civil war. And King John hired the Danish mercenaries to come and kill all barons who had won the war and any Knights Templar that had fought with him. Luckily they were defeated at Rochester when the French backed up the winners. So if “freedom” was allowed, but only 100 years new in the peasants-the peasants had just fought against their Lords for the equivalent of “fair trade” for their goods. And the nobles could have easily hired the Danish mercenaries to kill those who had “dared rebel” against their rulers choices. Or they could have purposely locked them out(?). But why would they sell everything to the Danish later on? Maybe they did have no choice but to sign a treaty after this slaughter?

Please rebut those men in a decent proper burial with honors .

@bradmiller2329

3 жыл бұрын

You are going to pay for how many?

By that time the pegan Vikings and their raids were long gone.

@TVTransmo

4 жыл бұрын

Ya, Vikings were year 793 to 1066. This is 300 years later :)

@heinedenmark

4 жыл бұрын

@@TVTransmo Vikings have never been gone. And they're on the rise again.. greetings from Fyrkat

@TVTransmo

4 жыл бұрын

Hehe im Danish too, I have a friend who is a Viking re-enacter. He spend all summer at Fyrkat with his family :)

@FamilyPictures1984

4 жыл бұрын

My 28th great grandfather was Viking from Gotland. Born 1170. He didn't have a very scary Viking name.🤣 Johan Silkentopp

@TVTransmo

4 жыл бұрын

@@FamilyPictures1984 The Viking age technically ended in 1066, so he was 100 years too late to be a Viking :)

I imagine the majority of the leg cuts are defensive cuts. Maybe a person was knocked down and then was struck. Or another possibility is they are just blows upon men already struck and either dying or dead. They may have been collateral damage as two men fought each other and missed their targets striking men already down.

@jarkoer

2 жыл бұрын

A trained warrior will never strike where his opponent is most heavily armored. Those plates made the torso invulnerable to attack. A simple chain mail coif or sleeves are effective against slashes, but weak against piercing and concussive damage. Legs are often just an after-thought because of mobility concerns, sometimes left to a tower or kite shield to protect. Without eyewitness testimony, it's possible to speculate many things. One thing I do take issue with is the assumption that one handed long swords caused most of these horrendous cuts. Medieval warriors also used axes, pole arms, and two handed swords and any of these would have been more than capable of performing these ghastly cuts. Particularly the one that sheared straight through that one man's foot from the shin to the ball of the foot.

why would a wealthy place as this one not have a standing army or at least paid group of mercenaries.

Wonder what will happen when the “Royalty and decision makers of Holland” kicks out or stops all agriculture? Can they travel to Gotland to reestablish agriculture in a land where the poor farmers were slaughtered? Or does the nobility not want to profit off agriculture?

Hellre en rövare på *RAUKEN* än en *RAUK* i röven!

did they ever get DNA from the Skeletons?

And yet we’ve learned NOTHING. We have become more efficient killers.

@funkysack288

3 жыл бұрын

Tyrants will tyrant

Ide say they were buried in their arms and armour, as a sign of respect by the Danes and Germanics. The "why" is the true question.

@allengordon6929

4 жыл бұрын

That could have been an element, given that the armor had no worth to the danes themselves (used armor dealerships were a thing then). That, and the rancid conditions. Given that the Gotlanders fought to the death without any hope of victory, the Danes likely felt respect for the Gotlanders at some level.

@mace8873

4 жыл бұрын

Nobody piles their slain enemies messily into mass graves, out of respect, that's something you do when you want to get it over with quickly.

The people fighting were Swedes, and the people inside of the town were Russian, German and Danish merchants, who of course didn't have the balls to fight so they locked out the Swedes and let them defend the city, and when they were dead, they just opened the gates... Swedes are real fighters.

@jensapaulsson2769

2 жыл бұрын

Well. Gutar, not swedes.

@niceguy1891

2 жыл бұрын

@@jensapaulsson2769 gutar are swedes

@jensapaulsson2769

2 жыл бұрын

@@niceguy1891 Belongs to Sweden yes. Most of my Gotland friends,including me. If People ask, we ate Gutar.

@jensapaulsson2769

2 жыл бұрын

We are gutar.

@niceguy1891

2 жыл бұрын

@@jensapaulsson2769 inte om du frågar varenda gotlänning jag känner, alla kallar sig svenskar från Gotland, Gutar är en gammal benämning ingen använder sig av

Visby has never been the capital of Gotland, it was a solitary town state, run by the Hansa. The capital, if any was Roma, att the middle of Gotland where yearly courts were held. Not thal the Goths have choose to not have a king. And was therefore one of the oldest parliamentary democracies.

Medieval Alamo 😬

The Danes sold Scania to king mangus of Sweden and Norway. The Danes and King valdemar used the money gained from selling Scania to hire a big mercenary army to take back sacania and possibly also take the island of Gotland. Valdermar was the older brother to Mangus. The war went so well for valdemar and the Danes that whole of Scania and Gotland had be all ocipied most of mangus army had been cruched so mangus had to sue for peace with valdemar and the Danes giving up all of Scania and the very strategic island of Gotland. The three crowns which is the the Royal coat of arms, Stockholm city Hall, the national ice hockey team and many coins came from king mangus being king of Sweden Norway and that he bought Scania from the Danes.

Just moved from Visby after 10 years on the island i can tell you that the hate between peasants and townfolk still exist. Personaly, i could not stand the mentality of city people in Visby. If anything similar happend today they would do it all over again. Shame, it`s such a fine town.

@jensapaulsson2769

2 жыл бұрын

Vad snackar du om. Flytta hem till serbien din slav.

This isent glorius its just terrible and sad. If they were wariors they would fullfilled their desteny but this was just terrified people trying to do their best.

In my humbe opinion i think more professional army of Danish and German decent left armor on defeated army because they didn't have respect for defeat army, inferiorif you will, made an example of them or point. Evidance for my opinion is they finish them off not leaving anyone alive. Proves lack of respect and compassion. Ruthless battle and medieval life on an soldier

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Danish army was for sure professional but i think german mercenaries helped a lot. from where in Germany were those mercenaries? Maybe Prussia, German crusaders of north. Who Knows?

@FamilyPictures1984

4 жыл бұрын

This might answer your question This is my great grandfathers., they were Mayors of Visby. They came from Germany. There was trade routes between Germany and Visby. So I am sure the "mercenaries" were brothers and cousins defending each other. The numbers represent X Great Grandfather. 26. Herman Hiddink Swerting, Borgmästare i Visby b. circa 1280, Visby, Gotland, Sverige; d. 1342, Visby, Gotland, Sverige 27. Simon Swerting, Borgmästare 1307 b. circa 1245, Rostock, Pommern; d. August 9, 1307, Visby, Gotland, Sverige 28. Tidrik Swerting b. circa 1215, Rostock, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany; d. circa 1265, Rostock, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany 29. ? Swerting, (aka lat. "Niger") b. circa 1185, Rostock, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany

@FamilyPictures1984

4 жыл бұрын

My 21 and 22nd GGFATHERs were Mayors of of Visby before and after this brutal battle between Danish King and Visby 21. Köpman. Borgmästare Markward II Bretholt b. circa 1395, Visby, Gotland, Sweden; d. before April 14, 1476, Tallinna 22. Borgmästare Markward I Bretholt b. after 1350, Visby, Gotland, Sverige; d. circa 1401, Reval (Tallinn)

@erikpetersen-chinguacousys1943

4 жыл бұрын

Hanseatic mercenaries I should think.

@jturtle5318

4 жыл бұрын

@@ivanbiskic4364 Ancestry.com is great. I have gone more than 40 generations if they were famous, or infamous which was more common. The quiet, law-abiding merchants and tradesmen were only documented in the church records and are harder to find.

@daneaxe6465

4 жыл бұрын

My 14th great grandfather was an official with the Hanseatic League, born 1485 in Lubeck, Germany. He was sent to the Danish island of Bornholm to be "mayor" of the town of Nexo. He was really there to collect taxes for the League since Nexo was very small. This was in early 1500's. Some of his children and descendants ran the fortress of Hammershus. The "contract" with the Hanseatic League ended in the mid 1500's if I recall correctly. Bornholm island and its fortress were in the middle of constant wars and now forgotten bloody squabbles over forgotten problems. Whatever was happening in the Baltic, Bornholm was involved in some way. What surprised me was how many times Bornholm/Hammershus teamed up with the Germans to invade or raid somebody (pick a reason, any reason). Occasionally throughout history they would team up with the Dutch and even the English. So on the question of who the German mercenaries were the most logical source would be northern Germany/Prussia. Maybe a few stray Germans from other parts of the Germanic kingdoms.

Why not loud background music… 🤡

Funny that Malin Holst is British. I could bet quite a lot that she has Swedish decent with that name. :)

@vanefreja86

2 жыл бұрын

She is for sure not British. She has still has her accent. I think they speak English together because of the documentary.

The Danes were 100% Christian on 3rd generation at this time. The massgrave could have been protected by some holy decree. Probably dictated by Valdemar.

MA

If it makes no sense to you that the indigenous Gotlanders wanted to fight the invading army without any regard the potential baleful consequences to themselves, consider that these people were of the blood and lineage of Beowulf. Perhaps then, their choice will make more sense to you. I am of that blood. It makes perfect sense to me.

@tryggizz1482

2 жыл бұрын

First of all, beowulf was said to have been from götaland and not gotland, secondly its a saga with no proof of him even existing. Altough i bet the geats was just as ferocious.

@Tipi_Dan

2 жыл бұрын

@@tryggizz1482 Well, yes. But, still.

@jensapaulsson2769

2 жыл бұрын

@@tryggizz1482 Fel. Nya rön tyder på Gotland.