Love or hate him, Gordon Ryan never plays dirty and is truly an artist of the "Gentle Art." So many times, his opponents are slapping him, using brute force or dirty tactics, but he never does, because he doesn't need to. He trains and thinks and is constantly learning and it translates into a calm, focused, tactical game, that he wins. Much respect.

@squidink58

3 жыл бұрын

Beautifully put!

@Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion

3 жыл бұрын

Could you duck him off in private next time? The wrestler made him look foolish

@didif4791

3 жыл бұрын

He’s the best Submission Grappler in the world… one would expect him to dominate a wrestler who is almost 30kg lighter and haven’t won any major international competitions Dirty tactics? …Gordon Ryan was defensive the whole time, Downey doesn’t know ANY BJJ and the guy got tired… the guy is almost 30kg lighter then Ryan!!! 😂 This is Gordon Ryans game, and he should at least have taken the initiative🤷🏽‍♂️ When Downey and Ryan freestyle wrestle… Downey is taking the initiative and defeats Ryan in little over a minute… But Gordon Ryan is still a master at what he does and it’s a treat to see him perform🙌🏽

@andrewmacfarlane4899

2 жыл бұрын

@@didif4791 thing is, getting a takedown is not a victory irl, you have to finish the fight. If it were a true fight Gordon would have the advantage even after being taken down unless he got head slammed.

@wrestlingjudoms1302

2 жыл бұрын

Except he's on steroids.

"Get up! Get up Pat of Troy, I am not going to let a power half nelson take my Glory." -Gordon "Achilles" Ryan

@juliantoocold

2 жыл бұрын

this should be the top comment

@bernie3075

Жыл бұрын

This comment should be pinned

@emirakbar4624

Жыл бұрын

Get up get up dont make me waste my roids🤣🤣👎

@Deathadder1994

3 ай бұрын

I haven’t watched the video yet, so I hope I hear this

Holy shit a video of a match that's not by FloGrappling this is amazing.

@TheSolder777

3 жыл бұрын

Holy Beautiful

@CentralBase

2 жыл бұрын

I just came

@benjiboi6669

2 жыл бұрын

@@CentralBase got me dead

@tomarintomarin9520

2 жыл бұрын

@@CentralBase wat

@CentralBase

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomarintomarin9520 we had a nasty breakup

The announcers tone is funny to me I don’t know why..sounds like he is announcing golf

@justinnsmma11

3 жыл бұрын

He makes me feel safe

@jointhefuture

3 жыл бұрын

Would much rather watch bjj instead of golf

Pat didn’t even attempt to go to the ground. Kudos to Ryan for at least trying in the wrestling.

@lucasday7330

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine having or BJJ experience and willingly going to the ground for a submission competition against Gordon. Lmao

@imightdeletethislater3810

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasday7330 Imagine having rudimentary wrestling knowledge and willingly competing against an All American in their domain. Oh wait, thats exactly what Ryan did. LmAo.

@yodaddy4683

Жыл бұрын

Pat took him down at took his back twice in the first 8min so thats false

@Lockdown335

Жыл бұрын

​@@yodaddy4683 Nah he didnt took shit my man lol No hooks no back bruthr... watch 14:40 onwards when the supremely conditioned wrestler quits.... Quitting is considerably more embarrassing then giving back exposure in grappling especially this kind lol

@yodaddy4683

Жыл бұрын

@@Lockdown335 Pat put GR on his knees twice in first 5 minutes, lasted 17min in Jiu jitsu with the best ji jitsu practitioner in the world.. Tapped in fear of his shoulder getting hurt. Then go to the wrestling portion and Gordon gets Tech'd in under 1minute....

Gotta respect Gordon for fighting on his feet most of the time. Gordon doesn’t even stay on feet against other Top level Jiu-Jitsu guys but he did here.

@villitipota4788

3 жыл бұрын

Whats the point..hes going against the best stand up doesnt go anywhere..its gonna end up on the floor so why not get straight to it

@ubermensch9688

3 жыл бұрын

@@villitipota4788 because he wanted to prove a point. ;)

@liamhornby5476

3 жыл бұрын

I actually think guard pulling wasn’t allowed for the match

@danielsnake23

3 жыл бұрын

@@villitipota4788 he was trying to tire the guy out for the freestyle match

@BuggyChokeTheWorld

2 жыл бұрын

@@liamhornby5476 that was a different match vs bo nickal

Fantastic for the sport. More kids need to grapple, wrestling, Judo, Jiu Jitsu, just do something.

@blokin5039

Жыл бұрын

Pervert 😑

@Sindra2025

Жыл бұрын

Yeah most of the people have to know how to defended herself

Power half Nelson is not a submission 😂

@frankiecal3186

4 жыл бұрын

It is if you knew how to crank it right like catch wrestling.

@justsayin3600

3 жыл бұрын

It'll be called the Gordon 1/2 Nelson when it happens again.

@rcnyoplait

3 жыл бұрын

Then why did he tap? (submit)

@jhonfamo8412

3 жыл бұрын

It fucked his shoulder up somehow.

@ericr2617

3 жыл бұрын

I guess it is when Gordon puts it on you

Then magically pat got recovered for the wrestling match wtf??

@dreiigHiveSGClips

4 жыл бұрын

acting on point

@orelviscardenas3247

3 жыл бұрын

you obviously never had shoulder injuries before

@cricka09

3 жыл бұрын

@@orelviscardenas3247 ok doctor🙄

@orelviscardenas3247

3 жыл бұрын

@@cricka09 having shoulder injuries makes me a doctor?

@cricka09

3 жыл бұрын

@@orelviscardenas3247 you claimed someone has never had a shoulder injury because of their comment. I would have thought it was pretty obvious my comments were sarcastic, you diagnosed them as not having experienced shoulder injury

The drapes are nice touch makes it look professional

@jag8968

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@rafaelalmeida1923

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaahahahahah

@Wyndstrom

3 жыл бұрын

It's to hide the local strip club advertisements

@AveryBlueRemix

3 жыл бұрын

😭

@thetruebatman4632

3 жыл бұрын

Lol watch it all the way to the end and just take a look at Gordon’s dominance, Jesus.

saw this after I saw the wrestling match between them and now I feel better. lol

@baboonjames8407

3 жыл бұрын

Sameeee lmfao

He was breathing heavy 3 minutes in. He tapped to exhaustion and the position

@rhumandlove393

3 жыл бұрын

He tapped so he could be fresh for thw wrestling portion. What a joker

@patricklutherwinchester4260

2 жыл бұрын

What a loser and clown Downey is.

@Loneshdo

2 жыл бұрын

How can such a high level athlete have such poor conditioning

@benjiboi6669

2 жыл бұрын

Its like when you roll with youre coach as like a 1 stripe white belt

@lucasday7330

2 жыл бұрын

@LoneShdo some guys just breath like that. He wasn't gassed. If he was he wouldn't have been able to go for takedown

16:50 No means NO Mr. Ryan

@Tuf_frijoles

3 жыл бұрын

Ryan wanted 🩸

@alfiesolomon3531

3 жыл бұрын

You lost track of reality. It's not up to Gordon to put a stop to the match, it's the referee. So it's the referee you should blame for not respecting the tap

@JamaaLS

Жыл бұрын

@@alfiesolomon3531 didn't look up the rules on D.

@alfiesolomon3531

Жыл бұрын

@@JamaaLS and you didnt either because there is no D here. All rules and sanctions are applied by the referee only, so if he just stares passively like a dummy the match goes on. You can stretch all the excuses you want, you are always going to be wrong m8.

This is closer to a younger brother calling mom for help than it is to being an injury.

Thanks. Will you post the tournament ?

He was tired and looked for an exit. Not worth going extra if he was unavoidable deep into “the system”

@TheDanielmeeks

4 жыл бұрын

Eric Stein you mean he was a bitch

@lassiterleon737

4 жыл бұрын

The system of levers and clamps

@MrHeathcliff83

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheDanielmeeks no hes knows his strenght and weakness and i guess he is smart enough to make that clear, early enough. good ego pat.

@rhumandlove393

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrHeathcliff83 he tapped early so he cluld be fresh for the wresting portion haha

@jonmoris9354

Жыл бұрын

lol its because he was wrestling the whole time where as gordon was just waiting for a mistake, differnt athletes from different sports

Ryan was just toying with him.

@erikbritz2637

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm doubt it Ryan knew he had an game opponent so took his time.

@erikbritz2637

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChestofGold 😂

@ryangibbons7311

3 жыл бұрын

Downey was going to cave at some point. Gordon couldn't offensively force the action on Downey in this rule set. Gordon took the safe route

@thetruebatman4632

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryangibbons7311 bingo. It’s Gordon freakin Ryan.

@liampurnell7297

3 жыл бұрын

He said before he went out he was going to go out and wear him down as much as possible. It wasn’t even a submission he got him with, it was Downey giving up

This was one of the best No Gi fights I’ve ever seen.

@Joseph-jb8qy

Жыл бұрын

literally the worst one ive ever seen. you need to elevate the matches you're watching.

As soon as Downey volunteered to enter the guard, it was all over

Hey ref, just wanted to remind you that YOU SRE REFFING A MATCH.

I tapped during rolling because of an old shoulder injury but my training partner didn't stop for the reason that he felt he hadn't applied a submission. The reason that heavy sparring isn't considered assault is because consent is given by both parties. It is a consenting activity in a controlled environment with built-in safe guards like the tap, mat rules, mat etiquette etc...IMO when that consent is withdrawn by one of the parties and the other party knowingly continues fighting you start getting into dangerous territory where what you are doing could be considered assault in a court of law. If your partner taps you stop no ifs no buts.

@thelifeofrus

3 жыл бұрын

This is a tournament with two elite level grapplers. You don't stop till the ref says stop

@aristolochene

3 жыл бұрын

valid point

@hoochfarmer4394

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with all you said bro but you can see Gordon’s just having fun with him after the two he’s not actually putting much or any pressure on anything

@performancej8017

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelifeofrus that’s BS.

@StuffAndMemes

Жыл бұрын

Just stop

Gordon doesn't ain't even putting guys in submission and they're still tapping lol

Gordan looks like he can continue to roll for the next 30min straight lol

16:20 "Yeaa... Downey starts being downed"

This is a heck of a fight 🤼‍♂️

Nice one

The breath control and conditioning gap is huge

@anthonymagnotta3428

Жыл бұрын

It’s a different type of conditioning. Downey is expending a ton of unnecessary energy.

power half nelson w the legs in hurts like hell so i kiNda dont blame

Not sure what Downey's strategy was but he was using a lot of energy. You can hear him breathing quite heavily in the first 4 minutes. I think he put on a good show. Played aggressively on the feet and got some takedowns without over committing to the ground game. He looked better than Bo Nickal's match with Ryan. I would like to see matches that are no more than 10 minutes. This would force Ryan to get the fight to the ground and showcase his submissions. Otherwise we see a lot of stand-up grappling with very little takedowns. Imagine a wrestler at Downey's level knowing more jiu-jitsu and subs. Just look at Nick Rodriguez, he's a beast and his level of wrestling is nowhere near Downey's. And he's only been at sub grappling for 2 years or so.

@austinwynn9496

Жыл бұрын

Fast forward to Downey getting KO'd in mma on the belator undercard.

Announcer: “In side control here” Gordon: “In What control”... IN MY CONTROL!!

Does Downy have the mark of Igon on his right shin?

I can't believe the commentator is saying, "THEM hips".

That Nike Swoosh Tattoo was 🔥

Oh I get it. “Inside control”

16:49 I thought his knee was boutta say hi to Jesus

@terranceshorty4578

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that was why he tapped

Ryan you are a beast

16:50 Referee just starring at the competitors for 20 seconds after the tap. LoL. Some quality refereeing right there.

@SorryImLate-fv1xf

2 жыл бұрын

Well it was kinda confusing because all he did was a power half Nelson and he kinda just gave up and tapped it even pissed of Gordon

@stevenoverlord

Жыл бұрын

Horrible reffing they were nervous because it's Gordon ryan and even shittier sportsmanship from Gordon. That's obviously a move that could exasperated a bad shoulder and tap out means let go get off me not whining and holding on smh

@wayne47able

Жыл бұрын

Because he wasn’t hurt

Love this commentator

Is that a Nike tattoo ?

I wish I could see both unedited

“Power half it wasn’t a submission.” Lmao...

that power half can tap you if you try to power out of it.. injures your neck

14:48 this sequence is crazy

Gordon has a fighter character !

15 mins of collar-ties.....

Downey shouts and whoops after winning a wrestling match with a BJJ practitioner and then rolls up and dies when it comes to jiu jitsu.

@wrestlingjudoms1302

2 жыл бұрын

Because he's a wrestler not a Jiu Jitsu practitioner?

@cdb0816

Жыл бұрын

@@wrestlingjudoms1302 didn't see gordon doing that. And at least gordon engaged in the wrestling match, Pat did everything in his power to avoid actually grappling in the jiu-jitsu match

what fight is it and why the setting is so weird, with drapes n shit?

@TheSnakesign

4 жыл бұрын

There's been a global epidemic going on, have you been in a coma for three months?

@qwertyqart

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSnakesign haha, yeah but why they have folks at the edges then. and what competition is. btw, epidemics, when it goes global, is pandemics.

@scrapson8789

4 жыл бұрын

@@qwertyqart folks on the edges Are there to make sure that they don't go past the edge of the mat and then are there to also make sure that when they reached the corners of the mat they stopped them and reset them in the center in the exact same position they were in

@christophsteck531

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSnakesign the match was before the pandemic a few months ago (more than 3)

The fought after the a wrestling match right? So they did 2 matches?

@Daugust77

4 жыл бұрын

It was this then the wrestling match.

Took his Soul!

Downey DQ'ed from any respectable BJJ completion in under 30 seconds for repeated slaps to the face, it's almost like the wrestler is afraid to go to ground

he tapped because he was gassed and knew Gordon could do anything he wanted to with little chance of escape. basically tapped so he could save himself from being destroyed in a prolonged fashion and to get on to wrestling. kinda cowardish but smart i suppose

Downy didn't want that ground action

respect the tap

Gordon just wore Downey out with that single collar tie lol

@kallepikku4991

2 жыл бұрын

Plus constant Step Outs.... and that 30 pounds extra didn't hurt either.

Holy shit. This video is over 17 minutes lol. The wrestling video is less than 1 minute 30 seconds. Says a lot

All the comments are about gordon toying with Pat but no one mentions how pat didn't attack and the wrestling match lasted 1 minute

@stefanwilkinson1536

3 жыл бұрын

And why didn't he attack? Could it have been because there are actual consequences for attacking the world's best grappler in a setting when submissions are legal? 🤔🤣

@josesoto3594

3 жыл бұрын

@@stefanwilkinson1536 because he never trained jj and doesn't know how to do a sub?

@stefanwilkinson1536

3 жыл бұрын

@@josesoto3594 so, he agrees to a submission only match against Gordon Ryan . . . and didn't bother to train any submissions? Why bother to take the match at all? He knew it would be good for his name to compete against Gordon. The difference is, Gordon met Pat in the middle and was willing to exchange during the wrestling bout, and he lost (Gordon himself admitted beforehand that would almost certainly be the outcome). Pat played things as safe as he could during the grappling match and initiated nothing, and he ultimately tapped while in a power half Nelson. Point is, there's a reason Pat didn't attack: he wanted to safe face and energy.

@smarterthanyou2255

3 жыл бұрын

Because moving your opponent outside of some lines isn't as meaningful a win as getting someone to submit.

@cypresspuz

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody cares.

Amazing skill discrepancy. Downey ragdolled Ryan in wrestling but Ryan's BJJ is so much better than Downey's. (Yes I know Ryan is a BJJ legend but still)

@scarred10

4 жыл бұрын

That's not a skill discrepancy, they both are dominant in their own style.

@adamkhan4451

3 жыл бұрын

Ryan didn't use leg locks in this also. And yeah not a skill discrepancy not sure what you're trying to say in this

Gordon is such a troll. lol. Like he doesn't know that you can tap or verbally quit for any reason. Tired, bored, injured, scarred to lose.... anything.

@Divinegon1706

3 жыл бұрын

It's not him being a troll it's his mindset. He truly believes that if you don't win by submission, you didn't actually win. Call it OCD or perfectionism or whatever, but it's a very real quirk Gordon has and has spoken to in the past.

@rhumandlove393

3 жыл бұрын

Pat literally tapped early so he could be more fresh for the wrestling. Silly people. He recovered from injury to roll him.... rediculess

I have a very basic understanding of Bjj. Wrestled in high school. I saw the wrestling match between these two and downy absolutely dominated. My question is, Why isn’t that the style he imposed in the bjj match to gain advantageous positioning? Can someone tell me what I’m missing. In the wrestling match he had multiple positions that would be considered dominant in bjj. Why not take that approach in the bjj match.

@adamkhan4451

3 жыл бұрын

This is another guys post right below you Like honestly, even if Downey would get sick takedowns, once theyre down Gordon takes total control. THe only way Downey cant be submitted is by not touching Gordon, which is kind of what grappling is all about. Do people still believe Wrestling is better than Jiu-Jitsu? It can be, and wrestling has things that Jiu-Jitsu could learn from, but as a general note, you cant argue the fact Jiu-Jitsu is a more complete form of grappling. Me adding to that: you can say you have a very basic understanding of BJJ but if you think down did anything effective in his match for grppaling you're knowledge is less then basic. What did down do in his match. He suplexed ryan. Did it cause ryan to tap? Did it lead to a tap. No. Therefore it did nothing. He rolled ryan as well. Did that hurt ryan? No, ryan just went a long for the ride no major discomfort even. It didn't tap ryan and didn't lead to a position he could even attempt to tap ryan from. Therefore it didn't do anything. In submission grappling those aren't dominant positions he literally didn't do anything to ryan. So you're saying do nothing to ryan when you say do those dominant positions. Take some no gi BJJ classes. If you wrestled you'll like it anyways and be slightly ahead of some of the new guys unless you meet a fellow wrestler or judo that just stattes out as well.

@TheLZempir3

3 жыл бұрын

Because if you push someone out of bounds in bjj they restart you in the middle. No points for that.

@theasianviper6365

3 жыл бұрын

The main reason is that a takedown is not the goal of bjj, submission is. So if you're really good with takedowns, your opponents will just pull guard or butt scoot so all the energy you put into your takedowns is useless. Second is that wrestling is completely focused on takedowns, takedown defense and pins. That means that whoever will practice wrestling will have better takedowns and takdown defense because they put more time in it. That being said, I do think that bjj has to spend more time in takedowns as it's the way to get a fight to the ground.

@TheSantos173

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamkhan4451 dude, I do BJJ and committed to it for life, but he asked a good question tho. If you think about if you give your back to a wrestler in the real world 8/10 times it’ll probably not be in the grass. Of course BJJ has finishes which is awesome but both have their pros and cons. It all comes down to who is fighting anyways. Supplement your grappling with some striking and you’re better

@smarterthanyou2255

3 жыл бұрын

Because being able to move somebody outside of some lines isn't actually doing anything if points aren't awarded for it. It requires a ton of energy and does literally nothing for you in bjj.

I’d be interested to see 2022 Gordon in this match.

@DhatKidWill

Жыл бұрын

Complete suffocating pressure

Lmao just saw Downey’s Instagram claiming “it took Gordon 20 minutes to beat me in his ruleset, it took me 20 seconds to beat him in mine.” Dude stalled for 17 minutes and the minute he engaged he got tapped by a non submission.

Now with wrestling rules

Are they friends in real life?

Gordon the goat

Does Downey have a Nike swoosh tattoo on his leg?

@blakeharris9705

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and “hakuna matata” and the eye of Horus...he’s an interesting guy lol

Is that Nike logo a tattoo?

Downey was fighting kind of dirty. I feel bad that I'm not sorry to see a dirty fighter get a painful sub.

4:39 ring around the rosie armdrag

So can anybody brown belt or higher share if my theory of staying low with legs far back as in ready to sprawl being a good defense for leg locks imanari rolls etc. Cause im new in Bjj and im focusing on escapes and being sharp with 3 of my best subs BUT i know leg attacks will be coming someday and would like to know if my theory of hang low and ready to get the legs away is a better strat then like in this vid being too upright making legs vulnerable?

@Alex-xi3bw

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a brown belt lol. Staying low makes it harder for your opponent to attack your legs, but easier to jump on your head with a front head lock, which can lead to guillotines, darce chokes, back takes, etc. There's no right or wrong way to stand, there's pros and cons to everything.

@smarterthanyou2255

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta learn the leg lock game broski. When you learn attacks you're also somewhat learning how to defend because you know each step you're trying to prevent. And like he^ said there are pros and cons to weigh out when it comes to stance and approach

lmfao brutal

The shirtless guy did well given his size disadvantage

@DrHarbirSingh

3 жыл бұрын

The wrestler looked tired as soon as he started?

@nickc3250

3 жыл бұрын

What did he weigh?

I think Downey wearing an anklet was a bad idea.

Doesnt February have only 28 days

They should have done one match with both rule sets and 20 points for the tech fall

Gordon could've tapped him anytime, he was just trying to cook him so he might have an advantage in the freestyle.

So this is the pros & cons between the 2 grappling sport.

@thejookking

3 жыл бұрын

I just watched them both wrestle. Pat Downey owned Gordon Ryan. So, the wrestler needs to LEARN BJJ. The grappler needs to LEARN wrestling.

@DetailingJourney

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejookking gordon doesn't need to learn wrestling, he won't compete in wrestling anyway

@thejookking

3 жыл бұрын

@@DetailingJourney I'm talking about being a complete grappler, Sparky.

@DetailingJourney

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejookking yeah you have a point, but not in gordon case

@smarterthanyou2255

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejookking Ryan is more of a complete grappler than the wrestler though

16:50 Can someone explain why Gordon seemed like he was upset that his opponent tapped? Doesn't that mean he did good if his opponent tapped? Why did he want to continue?

@ragner7629

2 жыл бұрын

Downey knew he was in trouble and copped out I think Gordon wanted to toy with him And get the sub

@vinniciuselion4544

2 жыл бұрын

Because he wasn't in a submission position, only a transition, he wanted to toy a bit more lol

@Tehz1359

11 ай бұрын

He was basically saying that Pat tapped for no reason and faked injury, without putting it in those words.

First pressure the neck, than the chest made submit that the always plan of GR. And do that with the smile...

Esses caras do wrestling são violentos.

Very disappointed by not respecting the tap. Palhares used to do that.

@DetailingJourney

3 жыл бұрын

He did the right thing, only stop when ref stop it

This was a grizzly bear playing with a gazelle.

1 camera for a BJJ match recording? Great work guys. We saw all the 50% of that match

@studentsays393

3 жыл бұрын

Just seen this comment as I am watching the video. There is at least two cameras 9:45

Can’t people really not see that Downey tapped because of his left leg almost breaking at 16:51 ?

@zBryRobinson

2 жыл бұрын

Yes his leg bending made me cringe

@wayne47able

Жыл бұрын

@@zBryRobinson he said the injury was in his shoulder. He just flat out quit from the pressure

@cdb0816

Жыл бұрын

It was his shoulder. His leg was nowhere near breaking lol

I’m confused - Wiki lists this as a grappling win, but freestyle wrestling loss for Ryan...?

@shaykh_Mahboob

3 жыл бұрын

They had a wrestling match right after this where downey beat him.

@FR-ty5vn

3 жыл бұрын

@@shaykh_Mahboob wow - same day? They were probably both exhausted.

Gordon whether he’s faking or not, whether it’s a sub or not, when the guy taps- it’s done. You stop. The man threw his mouth guard.. get your anger in check

@adamkhan4451

3 жыл бұрын

He wasn't angry he just knew pat was bs. Watch the next match pat isn't hurt at all. Gordon was going easy on him hence no leg locks the entire time. Pat went hard the next march and tried to rub in Ryan's face because he can't take a loss. Ryan knew he wasn't hurt next match proves ryan wasn't wrong lol. Come on pat

@johnnyhurley7161

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Gordon was just seething with rage huh

This was really eye opening for me. The problem with BJJ is their takedowns are very weak. The no-gi / catch wrestlers try and incorporate both arts but these elite freestyle wrestlers like Downey are nonetheless hard as shit to takedown. Even the upperbody wrestling from downey was impressive. When it got to the ground it wasn't even close though

@kevinjohnson6549

2 жыл бұрын

What? Gordon took down Pat easily once he had the body lock. The reason the match was so long because Pat refused to engage for fear of the ground. It’s not that Gordon’s take downs are weak but that Pat was running from him the entire time.

@lucasday7330

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinjohnson6549 Gordon was backing up most of the match??????

@kevinjohnson6549

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasday7330 lmao what 😂

@trippystizz

Жыл бұрын

🥩👩‍🦼’r

@Joseph-jb8qy

Жыл бұрын

thats completely based on the bjj academy. i fight with Alliance and the head instructor at my academy is a black belt on judo as well, so we work takedowns regularly.

Like honestly, even if Downey would get sick takedowns, once theyre down Gordon takes total control. THe only way Downey cant be submitted is by not touching Gordon, which is kind of what grappling is all about. Do people still believe Wrestling is better than Jiu-Jitsu? It can be, and wrestling has things that Jiu-Jitsu could learn from, but as a general note, you cant argue the fact Jiu-Jitsu is a more complete form of grappling.

@karlkristiansevaldsen155

3 жыл бұрын

Watch their wrestling match and imagine if the floor was concrete. And to make this clear, Gordon is the nogi absolute number one in the world no questions about it, but Pat Downey is not even close to being wrestlings number 1 guy. Compared to Sadulaev which is similar to Gordons Size, Pat Downey is a fkn little shitkid, but even Pat Downey is way stronger than the best nogi guy, now imagine Sadulaev. Wrestlers are always way stronger and they adapt to mma much quicker than regular jj guys because of their specimen physiques. The best fighters are usually wrestlers, and there will be a takeover in mma from freestyle wrestlers, it's alrdy happening. The russians will eat the bjj bois.

@smarterthanyou2255

3 жыл бұрын

@@karlkristiansevaldsen155 imagine if ryan wanted to destroy this dudes knees

@dylanlorrain7574

2 жыл бұрын

Wrestling isn't better than jiu-jitsu when there fighting to the submission. But if there fighting in mma, or folk style Wrestling or free style Wrestling format than Wrestling is obviously superior. The better wrestler can avoid being taken down and controlled, get takedowns when he needs, and if he is also the better striker than he will completely dominate. Most of jiu-jitsu is stalling and winning by criteria, Gordon Ryan is the exception with haveing extremely good submissions similar to a ko punch or a pin.

Why is Pat so slappy?

Foot sweep

Bed excesice habits by pat that caused him to tap shoulder mobility restriction anybody else could move their shoulder like that just fine

Ryan wore him out.

Patty was gassed by the 4 min mark...

When somebody taps, you stop, regardless.

Pat wanted to make it like you didn’t tap me out I just got hurt that’s why Gordon didn’t want to stop but regardless you gotta respect the tap And Gordon would’ve got it a few seconds later anyway

15:22

Like a lion toying with his food

Hey look, I didn't come all the way out here not to get my submission!

Everyone talkin shit lol .. anyone that can last a cpl mins with gord ryan is a monster

The commentator sounds like hes calling basketball game. We are watching the match not listening to it in a car. Very knowledgeable though

Those clubs were a little much even for a wrestling match IMO