Awesome Jeff , love all your pieces and videos, can’t wait for the next piece

Old timers would say gold rides an iron horse. HCL acid and iron will give you that yellow color.

You explain everything perfectly well and articulately! Thanks. 👏👏

Always enjoy your uploads. Many more are missing out and hope they find you like I did. Beautiful piece. Almost makes me want to send in some nuggets 😉

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

That's so great to hear Rob! Thank you! I'm so glad you enjoy my content... that's what makes it fun for me! Lol maybe someday I'll break through the algorithm, who knows! 🤣

I could watch gold refining all day absolutely amazing it boggles my mind every time i see it and the final product is always stunning god i love gold! It is the most beautiful metal!

Love your videos. awesome content. I could watch it several times and learn something .

Well done you!! Finally, a refiner who properly rinses his gold powders!

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Julian 😁

6:30 That yellow tinge is probably iron dissolving in the HCl. 17:30 I don't know if you noticed, but your nugget count went from 8 to 7.

Nice to see ya back in action!

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jaybyrd! 😁

I do believe the yellow may be iron. When beginning to see Crystal's in solution rehydrate with additional hydrochloric acid to dilute the solution and continue nitric boils. Inquarting seems to have save some time. Good job.

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, very likely was iron! I was too concerned with possible nitric contamination. I should of recognized it immediately. I'm not sure adding HCL would have made a difference in this case. I had an ample amount in solution. Those chlorides are tough buggers!

@scrapman502

Жыл бұрын

Maybe Iron, most likely just red dirt. Red clay is red because it contains Iron. The red dirt trapped in the crevasse of the nuggets has iron in it. Maybe you should have soaked the nuggets in acid before starting the experiment, that would have eliminated the Iron from your solution.

@CUBETechie

Жыл бұрын

Can you also get the other materials out? Maybe you collect it and if you have it in a bigger amount I don't know several liters

It makes one appreciate all the time, effort and skill that goes into what you do. Thank you so much for sharing. 😁🙏👍

Great video, always a blast watching you work brother. What are the white circular pads your using for hammering and stamping?

Looking good my man. I’ve gotta get some of my refining uploaded. Keep up the great work brother.

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Post it! Our community needs more good content!!

@goldeninc.118

3 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals I need to. I’ve gotta get my silver cell back up and running too. I love producing beautiful crystals. You should check out the few low quality vids on my channel. I refined a huge lot (25 kg) of silver and didn’t video it 🤦‍♂️

This guy is amazing... Very careful, very thurough. A craftsman.

@LithicMetals

6 ай бұрын

💛

Rob finds treasure sent me!!!!!!! Awesomeness content keep it up

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking out my channel, I certainly appreciate it Russ!

Exceptional information.

Near pure gold is a beautiful thing, it almost glows.

How do you test material before and after refining? Thanks for another cool video!

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Rob! For the most part, I don't. I generally am refining karat scrap. If a piece is marked and feels right, I tend to trust its true. If something isn't marked, I test it with chemicals. As long as I don't make a gross miscalculation, I can adjust my methods as needed. As far as my finished gold... I used to make a big deal out of having each piece tested by a third party. But now... I trust my experience and methods, so the necessity isn't as great.

Nice clean work! 👍

Use a cotton ball plug in your funnel when decanting off The gold powder to catch any gold particles.

New to your channel. Familiar with most of the methods you used. The only thing you did I didn't understand was the ammonia rinses, what does the ammonia do to clean the precipitated gold?

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

The ammonia is great for capturing the remaining traces of solution/impurities that might cling to the precipitated material. The only time I saw a visible change in the solution was when working with a batch of white gold. I assumed platinum group metals... it went slightly green. Plus, I noticed that my gold sponge becomes lighter and bonds better into clumps.

Nice job looks great

So what is the yield out of these Raw Gold Nuggets x 7 totalling 13 grams? Sorry you don't mention the weight of your endproduct nugget. The point here is to get an estimate of how pure is native gold. Thanks for any data you share!

Just watched this again as I have been refining a few small nuggets recently. Western Australian gold seems to have bugger all silver and pd group metals so refining without inquartation works well with anything that tests out at over 85%Au.

@levytag7705

2 ай бұрын

Julian, you don't inquart WA gold? how many times do you dissolve it in aqua regia? I'm gonna do some soon. Are you near Kal

@julianalcorso5703

2 ай бұрын

Hi, I've refined quite a lot of small gold from the Pilbara region lately and so far one refine in a strong solution 3:1 of AR does the trick. I leave it on low heat and then turn off before bed and look again in the morning. I've done another trial on the remaining powder and when tested with Stannous no gold present. remember to rinse WELL. Hope this helps and no I', in Karratha.

@levytag7705

Ай бұрын

much appreciated, mate. I will contact you soon. I will start my refining soon. @@julianalcorso5703

It looks amazing sir.

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

Great video! I learned a lot!

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Pete! 😁

Very nice product and interesting video, thanks for sharing! Cheers

Where in the world did these huge nuggets come from? Also what was the white powder that was added to make the gold drop out of solution?

The heavy elements that make up the Earth, including gold, were formed in the hearts of stars. Through nuclear fusion, the elements were fused together under intense heat and pressure. But, the creation of very heavy elements such as gold requires an even more extreme event: the explosion of a supernova 💫

@stephenyasharahla

5 ай бұрын

What bullshit.... The almighty living God created it all.

@unknownglitch8080

5 ай бұрын

That's what he said lol don't you know the sun is God?

@MKMKHK

7 күн бұрын

Wy my aqua regia ist not dissolving gold plz help meg

when you're hammering the button, are you putting it in between two filter papers or something else?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I use paper filters. It protects them, and I like the texture.

Thatwasreallyhelpful your awesome thats aloof ward work you guys have a awesome life in precious metals what a good time

Awesome video. Solid refining techniques. I'm guessing that was iron in solution. I was hoping to see you take a few drops of that solution and put it into a plastic spoon or spot plate. Then drop a couple Ferrous Sulfate Crystals in to see if they turned red indicating iron in solution. Lots of patience, distilled water, filter, wash & repeat. Fun stuff bro. Best wishes and keep that blus solution away from you skin...L0L

If I have a hunk of copper is it worth dissolving the copper to see if there is any gold in it?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

No, at least not monetarily. 😁

Er.. G'day. After the initial refining you ended up with 7.5 grams of impure gold shot. Then you inquarted it with silver. May I ask what ratio of silver to gold shot you used? And if I may ask another question: Why do you wash the re-refined gold with ammonia? I understand why you wash with HCL but I can't grasp the reason for doing a wash with NH3.... Unless it is used to dissolve micro traces of copper or maybe silver chloride that somehow got into the wash water??.

Very nice video , champ. Watched it 1.5 times over 👍

@LithicMetals

4 ай бұрын

I appreciate you watching! 😁

@TheHcsinclair

4 ай бұрын

​@LithicMetals interested in converting some gold nuggets I have?

I like the new intro it’s a really nice touch. 👍 And I never knew you had super human powers, how did you make the gold nuggets float when you did the Close up shot. are you secretly GOD?? (joke) :)

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying so! It's a little intense, more energetic than I am lol. But it's fun, and goes well with the branding. Lol I often take my outdoor pics on a mirror, which is the effect you see.

Great vid, thanks for the effort

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

It's my pleasure Glyn! Thanks!

I seriously enjoy watching your videos. What is the percentage you’re using for the acid solutions. Is 35% enough to do this process?

@LithicMetals

5 ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoy the vids! But I don't recommend folks do these experiments at home.

@Tonycarguy

5 ай бұрын

Sure! but that isnt going to stop me. I am a gold miner in Canada and I will be refining my own gold. So whether you help or not I will be doing it. Also I must mention I have a bachelors in science @@LithicMetals

@LithicMetals

5 ай бұрын

That gives me more confidence! Many folks does take the hazards seriously enough. Your best source for detailed info is the goldrefiningforum.com and download a pdf of CM Hoke's book online.

What was the purpose of the ammonia rinse? I have never used ammonia for a rinse, nor so many multiple rinses. They seem pretty unnecessary. You can do HCL rinse and a distilled rinse and done.

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Brad. Thanks for watching. The ammonia rinse can actually capture traces of platinum group metals that might be lingering. Also, it seems to scrub the gold clean... and it removes nearly all traces of the HCL, which can also carry trace elements. If I only do a HCL rinse followed by a single water rinse... when I go to melt the gold... you will see visible oxides form at the surface of the gold if left exposed to air. With the rinse procedure I've adopted, I don't have to fear those trace elements... the gold stays nice and clean!

@scrapman502

Жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals I'm pretty sure those oxides are contaminates inside your melting dish.

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

@@scrapman502 what makes you say that?

That's iron, witch you normally get from load gold vs alluvial gold, reason your seeing it in your acid is because you bypassed metallurgy before going to aqua Regia, the iron and other metals that are dissolved or vapored or inquarted before refining

Iron is an easy guess as to what caused the HCl-aq yellow, although it could have been chlorine from tap water after you rinsed your breaker.

I love your camera work and thorough explanations. I would suggest when working under the fume hood, replacing the audio in post with a voice over and adding royalty free music when you cut all audio. Keep up the great work

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

All great tips! I appreciate the input!!

Thanks 👍

Just a thought, but it is possible for your nuggets to have nitrates or nitrites from the dirt they were in, and while it caused the "yellowing" of your hydrochloric acid, there wasn't enough of the nitrites or nitrates, to actually create Aqua Regia, however, was enough to cause the color change in the hydrochloric.

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Lol that thought def flashed through my head right then. But I think it be unlikely. Much more likely would be the presence of iron. Thanks for watching!

Awesome video!

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!! 😁

great video , they sure were some nice nuggets

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! They really were. But all nuggets are amazing! Do you hunt for nuggets in your area? I'd like to plan a trip in your direction one of these years!

@prospectorpete

3 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals yeah I have 20k worth of detectors. Including the best on the market. I plan to go detecting soon but health probs have stopped me so far. I've been panning many times but only found flour gold near where I live The richest Goldfields in the world are 6 hours drive away . Ill get there some day

I’m new to your page so forgive my ignorance. After you make these gold bars do you package and sell them? Also how did you get into making gold and silver bars? Are you a geologist? Sorry I have so many questions. If you’ve already answered these questions then just send me the link to it if possible. Thanks.

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Marc! Thanks for tuning in!! I love great questions. Yes, each piece ends up being shipped out... either via commission or more often, sold within a private fb group. I'm definitely not a geologist, however I am a huge fan of geology and science in general. Ive always been very interested in precious metals, primarily gold. I spent a couple years learning about refining. I later began conducting various experiments. That quickly blossomed into a passion to learn more. Eventually it became how I spent most of my time. Do what you love, they say!

@marcrobinson4907

3 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

Sweet!!!!!

the yellow color is definitely iron going into solution. I've seen HCl samples that have the exact same color due to iron contamination and that leads me to believe the HCl is dissolving iron from the nuggets/matrix material

V.good work bro

Amazing video very very good work

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Awais! I appreciate you watching!!

What was the materials cost vs end value of the gold? Was it worth it?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

If you wanted pure gold vs nuggets... it was def cost effective. 🙂

I skipped forward a bunch. What did you do with the dissolved silver?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

I reprocessed it later 🙂

@helmanfrow

Жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals Ah, okay.

So I know there was rock and what not in your initial weight so this value I’m about to give is a little off but based on that your starting gold was right around *18.8K. But the fact that you had a bunch of silver passivation issue when trying to dissolve in aqua regia, it makes me want to say it was less because you shouldn’t have any problem dissolving gold 18K or above (as 6k or below), but it’s possible there was just more silver concentrated in those nuggets in that particular area and not dispersed uniformly throughout. I wonder if you would have just melted them first and poured it into shot if you would have had the same passivation problem or not. Based off the numbers I would suspect not but it could go either way. Btw, Love your vids. I’m going to be honest, when I do my gold sponge rinses I’ve never done an ammonia rinse and have never had a problem with purity but I’m actually going to start doing that now because it does make the sponge look so much better/cleaner.

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

I think you're correct. Melting the raw gold first is a big help. Lately I've been turning it into buttons deep in borax. Pluck them out and then into AR, without "many" problems. But moving forward, I'm going to inquart the buttons instead because the Ag content is often right on the edge of messing with me lol. The ammonia rinse has been a game changer for me. After every batch, everything feels so clean. Not just the gold, but my whole both. And like you said, it really brightens up the sponge. It really chases out those last traces of base metal clinging to the sponge.

Is that you Necro ? Sheep here lol nice chemistry lesson thanks Bud 😎👍🇺🇲💯 impressive button 🙂👍

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

😆 thanks for watching! 😁

If I wanted to refine my own nuggets. Where do I find the acids needed?

@LithicMetals

6 ай бұрын

If you want to learn how, start by reading CM Hoke's book.

@nativeflight7079

6 ай бұрын

@@LithicMetals thank you. I just got a copy of it. Do need a business license to get the products?

hello i also buy gold nuggets, what is the best way and most accurate way to test them, and knowing that there is more gold than the other earthly minerals.

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Isaac! I'm not an expert on nuggets, but some up the things I would focus on is where they came from, the color, and accessing the visible gold. A specific gravity test may be useful as well at determining the actual gold content.

There’s probably iron in it which is why it turned yellow immediately

Great video! Meticulous as always, love the process!! Thanks for sharing Jeff👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Dude! Thanks Derek! Glad you enjoyed it!!!

@FirstLast-tx3yj

2 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals so how many grams was the final gold button??

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

@@FirstLast-tx3yj I believe it was 10.23g if I remember correctly

@FirstLast-tx3yj

2 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals so 13.13 gave 10.23g of 24karat!! Thats pretty good yield And do the raw stones stick to a strong metal?? I know the refined gold doesnt but wondering if the raw stones do

nice job on the video.

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate you watching!!

Does gold weigh the same when its dispensed in the liquid as it does when its solid?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed. The mass doesn't change. Whether suspended in a solution, or dropped into a liquid as a solid... the weight doesn't change. 🙂

@watermelonsugarhi

Жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals that's amazing. And must be some heavy liquid!

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

@Water Melon it's very trippy to pick up a beaker that has gold in solution, your brain has troubles believing what it's seeing lol

what does the amonia wash do for the process.

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

It does a great job at rinsing the old solution off of the gold. Carrying away the trace elements it holds within. Basically it scrubs the gold clean better than HCL alone.

May I inquire as to when to inquart gold for refinement and when not to. Thank you, Utah Kid....... P.S. You kick ass.

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

I would say, anytime you're dealing with gold that is less than 98% pure and is suspected of containing silver... it's a good idea to inquart. But say you have 22k gold, which is apx 91.7% gold... and you know for a fact the only other contaminate is copper... you can go right to AR and not have any issues.

Got all this black sand with gold on it that is coating a lot of the artifacts. The stuff is just falling off, so I’m starting to bag it up. I have no idea how to turn all that gold dust into something sellable.

How would one go about sending you gold to refine?

@LithicMetals

8 ай бұрын

Feel free to email me at lithicmetals@gmail.com 🙂

Hey Jeff great video, what’s your refining fees

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! For gold karat scrap it's 10% of the final yield. 90%+ Ag is 35%

Don't you normally melt the nuggets first and add silver to take the gold to 25% and make your shot? The do nitric boils until clear, the make aqua regia and get your gold from there? Any silver or platinum in the used nitric can be cemented out on copper in another bucket.

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Inquarting the gold as you mentioned is the typical way I would refine karat scrap, but for this experiment I chose to go straight to AR. I was hoping that the minimal amount of silver in these nuggets wouldn't create havoc for me... however it did actually cause a bit of trouble, but nothing I couldn't handle 😁

Found you off of tik tok love the content

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for joining me here too Brandon! 😁

Its like watching the bob ross of gold

@LithicMetals

11 күн бұрын

😁

Never seen ammonia wash before, what's that do? Amazing what a good search engine can do. Apparently, ammonia wash can dissolve traces of both copper and silver chloride.

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

It really gets it squeaky clean!

Yellow fluid looks like iron chloride, likely from iron sulfides which tend to carry along.

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

100% agree! Good call. 😁

Where do you find a collector that would want raw nuggets? I have a amazing specimens from Oregon and idaho. I was just going to start melting some down for travel money

@LithicMetals

6 ай бұрын

Best place would be a well established precious metals community. Like a fb group. There are several that are great.

So, those nuggets then were an alloy called electrum. Interesting.

That could be quartz deposits dissolving.

Close up shots of raw nugs would be helpful

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

Did you see the cover image?

I would love to turn some Alabama Gold nuggets into pure gold like that and have my wife a ring made.

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

That would be a fun project! 😀

Not sure if you will get this question but, why boil it in ammonia? I did look , it seems nobody asked that question. I'm thinking to remove any traces of silver chloride. Yes, No

@LithicMetals

6 ай бұрын

Correct, it's to really scrub out any traces of the remaining solution.

❤❤

I thought your videos would be good to sleep to.. calming, nothing too jarring or explosive…. Turns out it’s far too interesting and I’ve just been binging for the last 3 hours instead of sleeping 😂

Hey I want to get an oz how much would you charge me ?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

A 1oz bar would end up being just under 1k with shipping and insurance. 🙂

Waxaan ka helay Aqoon badan

What’s the purpose of ammonia rinse?

@LithicMetals

6 күн бұрын

It neutralizes the traces of acid that remain. Helping to "scrub" away the remaining trace metals still clinging on.

Low carat gold in just hydrochloric acid will dissolve don't need nitric with low carat gold it takes longer but it will dissolve the gold without a heavy oxidizer of the nitric acid

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not too certain of that Daniel. That definitely contradicts my experiences.

@danielwoodtke4346

2 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals did you figure out what it was? I just red it in a book and heard it in conversation same as zinc powder drops 99-100% of gold out of solution, SMB drops 90-95% from what I read

Never mind i guess i should watch the whole video before i comment

Is it posible that the owner of the nuggets cleaned them with nitric

@LithicMetals

8 ай бұрын

I think it was unlikely

Forbidden tang

Killed the premium on nuggets

@LithicMetals

6 ай бұрын

Yup, everyday.

Might be copper that turned solution yellow

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

Copper would be blue and turn the solution more green. Looking back now, it seems clear it was iron. Thanks for watching! 😁

Could be sulphur maybe

Most all natural nuggets are 18k so 75% you got like 78-79% don't know what your complaint is?

I learned from sreetips when he was doing something I think with some already used chemicals that it was iron showing the yellow color and not gold

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert! I agree with that assessment. In the moment, lol I really was at a loss. My brain was screaming "gold"! I've had issues with iron in the past, and usually it had more of a brownish tint... so I dismissed the thought at first. But after reflecting, it seems pretty clear now what it was. Lol but it sure had me puzzled for a bit!

@robertrichards9275

3 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals I watch your videos and sreetips , and had just watched a video of his that he had the yellow color show up in his refining and he tested and it was not gold but he did another type test to it also to find out if it was Platinum Group metals and then came to the conclusion that it was iron LOL,. Me watching y'all videos makes me wish that I would have stayed after refining metals chemically back in the 80s when I was seriously thinking about it because of all the old computer scrap that I could gather up very easily back then kama. I did actually have about 3 and 1/2 gallons in a 5-gallon bucket of just the gold-colored looking computer scrap live seriously wanted to refine, but LOL I just didn't get it done LOL

Raw gold makes ppl go crazy for wealth but pure gold is being traded a lot kroe

This is the guy you want melting and making your gooddies. Lunatic in a nice way :)

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! That made me smile!!

i thought in the beginning the customer wanted 2 rings out of that?

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Two rings? Not sure where you got that. Unfortunately when it comes to jewelry... my skill level is set at zero lol

@ValkyriesCorner

2 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals im sorry 😞 my mind wonders off sometimes 😹😂

سلام استاد استاد دو اسید نیتریک وکلریدریک اکولوژیا رالطف میکنید وایا د رصد دو بار اسید نیتریک قبل از اکولوژیا همان درصد نیتریک اکولوژیاست خیلی متشکرم .

all i get chicken nuggets in life

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

سلام استاد استاد درصد دو اسید نیتریک وکلرید ریک اکولوژیا را لطف میکنید متشکرم

Dude this is the S**t!! I know nothing about anything so my opinion doesn't matter but I want to find gold like a prospector, tent & pick n hoe in tow. I thoroughly enjoyed the session, beers to ya! 🍻

@LithicMetals

11 ай бұрын

Get out there! Give it a shot!! 😁

You should consider doing voice-over work.

@LithicMetals

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't know where to start lol

Boiling ammonia is a terrifying substance. Dear god… 😳😬