And then Odin ruins everything by murdering his own son in front of his daughter. Classic Odin

@CrisPyre

10 ай бұрын

and then blame it on Kratos and Atreus cause why the eff not.

@Jezzio93

7 ай бұрын

Thanks i did not know that....... yet👌

@godnyx117

6 ай бұрын

And then blames everyone else.

@dragonking1097

3 ай бұрын

@@godnyx117as usual.

@crosshair4543

Ай бұрын

As great as this final fight, I feel like Odin’s fight could have been more epic if it was doubled in length AND had Thor alive. First phase would have been Kratos saving Thor and the two fighting Odin, second phase would be Atreus and Thrud jumping in which would lead to the original cutscene of them being locked to the ground until Freya shows up, and then it would add another layer of fighting before or after they jump into the cave. Then the mask sequence would happen and it would be a whole 5v1 against Odin who would be showing off more power than he originally did because of 2 extra opponents Oh yeah “Don’t forget me All-Fucker”

This scene fucks me up. It's almost like Thor represents every human's past, all our mistakes, our self hatred, our guilt, our inability to forgive ourselves, thinking we don't DESERVE to change, to be happy, to be better. "Don't you know what I've done?!" Encapsulates that perfectly. Pair that with his alcoholism and the picture is complete. But Kratos, Kratos is our potential. Who we CAN be, who we can become. Kratos has never forgotten his past, and in many ways never forgave himself, but he recognized that HE had to be better. He had to change. And the only way to do that was to let go of all of the things, to make a choice every single moment of his life to be better. To be who he can truly be. Who we all can truly be. "What will you do now?" Is perhaps the most poignant question we can ask ourselves. We can continue to hate ourselves, to live in our guilt, to never move past our mistakes. Or, we can change. We can choose to be better. We can become who we were all truly meant to be. That's the message of Kratos' and Thor's story in my opinion.

@loganpike3915

Жыл бұрын

Well put. The story of GOW 2018 and Ragnarok was never about redemption. Kratos knows better than anyone that what he did in his past is impossible to find redemption for (quite literally. Who exactly is there left to forgive him?) But through his love for Atreus, he came to understand that he can learn from his past. He can move forward, and he CAN be better, even if the past can't be changed.

@a.t.3192

Жыл бұрын

Well said. This scene is profound.

@NovelWriterAG-nq8hd

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly said one of the many reasons why Ragnarok is one of the best games of modern times, and maybe ever. Storytelling legitimately doesn't get much better than this

@CBRN-115

5 ай бұрын

What a well written essay. This is a profound meaning

@luanphan2706

4 ай бұрын

And Odin represents life. When you decided it is time to change, to be better, life comes and kills you dead. Like Athena said: "You will always be a monster."

"Don't be sorry, be better"

The message is clear. It doesn't matter what you've done or who you've been. There's always time to change before it's too late. There's always the capacity to BE BETTER.

@utphong4k

Жыл бұрын

👍

@Alonzo2k8

11 ай бұрын

Amen

@Sheenifier

11 ай бұрын

The crazy part is that its that mind blowing of a saying. It's simple, yet wise. And I frickin hear it everywhere now "We must be better"

@P9u9r6p2l4e

10 ай бұрын

It’s scary, isn’t it? To realize that you have the capacity to be better than you are, better than you were?

1:34 “for the sake of our children. We Must Be Better.”

A former destroyer telling to another destroyer that they must be better

Thor had no choice but to accept what Kratos was saying here. The entire game, and probably for a long time before the game, he’s been lying to himself that he’s just a destroyer. He can’t possibly be anything more than what he always has been. But when he saw Kratos, the Ghost of Sparta, God of War, Destroyer of Greece, and quite possibly the most powerful god on earth tell him that they can be better. How could he disagree? If a man like Kratos can choose to be better, maybe he could as well.

@northstar_6585

Жыл бұрын

It because Thor chooses all the easy choices in life and doesn't fight because he has to but because Odin tricks him into thinking it is when his family tries to get him to stop drinking he relapses because tells him he liked him better when he was drunk thors father has been manipulating all the gods out of fear of his own death and it came at the sacrifice of their sanity

This is first time Kratos say "yes"

The way he says (no more) no more for the sake of our children we must be better that shit made me cry a face full of tears like damn Kratos has really changed from a god/titan killer to a god that wants to heal for his son,(open your heart to there suffering that is your mother’s wish and mine as well) I can’t take it😭😭😭

@utphong4k

Жыл бұрын

Keep Crying, bro

“We must be better”Faye’s words hits kratos

This message is a lot deeper then we think it’s like Santa Monica is telling the world we must be better for our children for our future for us as people we must be better. It might be too deep too look into a game but it was a serious message that I believe was more then just some lines in a game

@CBRN-115

5 ай бұрын

I agree with you. This both applies to parents and people without kids To be flawed is human, but it is our role to better ourselves. No one else will do it for us

The cycle ends here we must be better than this

WE MUST BE BETTER.

@utphong4k

Жыл бұрын

we are old and weak, don't you realize that?😅

One of the best scenes in the game.

@utphong4k

Жыл бұрын

A lot of emotions in this cutscenes

I don’t know why, I felt what kratos said to Thor… even though I’m not a dad

Kratos is a good father figure to every boy who doesn't have one(This version of Kratos specifically)

@CBRN-115

5 ай бұрын

Wish I had a father like Kratos. Stern, sometimes scary. But disciplined and a mentor

video games are ART

Literally chills

@utphong4k

Жыл бұрын

😅

and people have the nerve to say games are only for children. Some games are great teachers with the stories

This game has so many tidbits for self reflection. I especially like Týr's quote "goodness isnt a destination we arrive at, but a practice"

This one phrase right here. "For the sake of our children we must be better." I don't have any children, so I go by the phrase "For the sake of ourselves, we must be better." God of war Ragnarok has helped change my life for the better. It's not a game I play too often but it's something that has left an indelible mark on my life and just helping me push forward past my own past mistakes. Thank you GOW devs, thank you.

that hit me very hard when playing this, while still processing that I had a daughter on the way in a few months, and struggling to become a better person and role model for her... I cried a lot after the scene, and am still struggling, but this sentence never leaves my mind, gotta keep at it, for her sake. I must be better

I can't put into WORDS, JUST HOW BRILLIANT THIS ENTIRE SCENE IS! Guys... do you realize that Thor needed to hear this from KRATOS of all people to have the most effect. Even his wife, I don't think Thor's wife understands what he's been through AND know what it feels like, because his wife is not a destroyer, and thus does not have the conscience of a destroyer God. Even Thrud, Thrud doesn't know this. ONLY KRATOS knows this, and in watching KRatos, a destroyer like him, maybe worse than him, changing for the sake of his child, Thor finally heard what he needed to hear, from the ONE PERSON who understood Thor's pain, and as a result, Thor changed... I did an entire review highlighting so many character and psychological asp[ects of this game, which I call, THE GREATEST GAME STORY EVER TOLD that I have played. I invite you all to watch it and let me know what you think.

@livinglegend9709

Жыл бұрын

Biggest difference is kratos had no one to talk to him. The only person that did was his wife and somewhat Athena

@TheBengalDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@livinglegend9709 Athena didn't really. She had the interests of Olympus in mind, and then her interests in mind as well. That's why Kratos says she won't be Athena's monster anymore. His wife... she died before he came Chief Destroyer of the Gods. Back then, he only destroyed for Ares. After that, he destroyed for Athena, for the other gods, for himself, then for himself manipulated by Athena again (she enabled his vengeance for her means in GOW3). In this regard, Kratos has more trauma experience than Thor. At least Thor could drown his sorrow, Kratos, women an alcohol could not take away his nightmares.

@livinglegend9709

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBengalDragon completely agree. that's why I said "somewhat" because Athena was hella manipulative, but at least kratos felt like she somewhat cared or at least felt she was a sister to him till he learned her motives in 3. What we need to talk about is where is she at now?😂

@TheBengalDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@livinglegend9709 That was the one story negative I had in my review. You can watch that review on my channel if you like. There were no olympus cameos. I really wanted to see an olympus cameo.

We also see here the axe beating the hammer first time in norse mythology.

Feel like killing thor right after this is kind of a waste

@Omegasteri

8 ай бұрын

Not everyone can have a happy ending. Atleast Thrud can remember him as someone who stood up to Odin.

0:57- 1:39 My future self (Kratos) talking to my past self (Thor)

I do not have to accept you. I do not have to forgive you. I do not have to want anything to do with you. But no one can ever take away your ability to change.

Lmao this was a SweetBaby line.

Instant motivation.

When kratos says "sake" its sounds like "zake" with a "z" does nobody else hear that?

🥰🥰🥰🥰

Kratos is a good example of what masculinity should be, if not a little exaggerated. He's capable of great violence, but he wants to live in peace.

Anyone know the song that starts playing? 1:30

@linkwakeroftime

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/iXV6rLmsh9upk9I.html it’s an unreleased song

@erothill1082

Жыл бұрын

I'd like to know too

@tsaqifrizky5276

Жыл бұрын

I think it's a part of "Echoes of an old life", starts at the second half

@erothill1082

Жыл бұрын

It's around the 2nd min of the song ind. Thank you so much

❤💚