Now we know why they decreased the prices, so they could have a fire 🔥 sale

@avil8686

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha 😂

@johnb7430

Жыл бұрын

Daaaaammn, good one! 👍

@icosthop9998

Жыл бұрын

LoL

@scifithoughts3611

Жыл бұрын

😂

@paulbedichek2679

Жыл бұрын

Teslas burn more people to death than Bolt has had minor fires, there’s a reason Tesla stock keeps plummeting.

For all the money this cost GM and LG they could have recalled all the Bolts and given their customers new Teslas.

And they name their next car, The Blazer...lol.

@DanA-nl5uo

Жыл бұрын

Truth in marketing they could also bring back the firebird.

Just to make sure I got this right... the recall is for a safety device that might be hazardous.

@MadaRevird

Жыл бұрын

It's the "deadly airbag" syndrome. 😁

@icosthop9998

Жыл бұрын

@@MadaRevird LoL

a friend of mine was asked if she knew the difference between a bolt and a screw. i have never been bolted.

There was a thermal mug ad embedded in the comments when I saw this video.. who needs that when you have a bolt?🤣

Awesome. Hope they now go on sale for around 20K brand new.

I was about to buy a used 2017 Bolt in 2020. However, the dealer received a “stop sell” order directly from GM, for the battery recall. I was heartbroken, as I had fallen in love with the car. Within a few months I was at a different dealership, and about to buy a new 2021 Bolt. That is, until the finance guy talked me out of it and into buying an ICE vehicle. I’m still sad out the purchase I made, as I truly am in love with the Bolt. Although my dream car is the Tesla Model 3, the Bolt is much closer to my financial means. However, after seeing this video I am happy I didn’t purchase a Bolt yet.

Literally every car has this problem, but the beancounters say it's $2 cheaper not to put a shield on. It's cheaper to recall the 1 model that actually burns down than spend the money ahead of time on every car made.

For problems with the Bolt the probability is low but the Impact can be quite high, making it a medium risk. From a use standpoint, do I want a car that can only charge at 48 kW? To me this makes it overpriced.

Wow! close one for me. I pick up my brand new 2023 Bolt EV tomorrow morning. Mine was manufactured the week of 10/31/22. You state that this was fixed on all after 10/25/22. Funny, mine is bright blue just like in your video on the assembly line.

Yup LG in one of the companies I don't touch. Everything I ever bought from then dies so soon. Not surprised their batteries catch fire so easily.

I bought my brand new 2018 Bolt for $26500 (after all the tax credit). In 2020 they made a recall for firmware update. In 2021 they recalled to replace the battery. I requested the fix but Chevy said it would take one to two years for a replacement battery. I requested the repurchase and they repurchased it in 2020 for $27000. Glad I sold it back with this news.

@Trilobite45

Жыл бұрын

Dodged a big bullet 🍆

@Chainyanker007

Жыл бұрын

Some sucker ended up with it. You got a deal.

@icosthop9998

Жыл бұрын

Smart move 👌 What vehicle did you buy next ❔️

@poman911

Жыл бұрын

@@icosthop9998 e bike! my workplace ended up being 4 miles away after covid so no need for EV.

@poman911

Жыл бұрын

@@Chainyanker007 no, by law they can't sell a car under a recall until it's fixed. The dealer told me that they will store it, switch battery then donate the vehicle to get a tax write off. LG Chem is liable for the battery cost anyway.

I suspect the Bolt, even after both recalls, is still profitable. Just not as profitable as expected. Dunno though. It's a good vehicle in the whole. Assuming it doesn't burst into flames. My niece has one. It's a joy to drive and she loves it. She lives with us in the countryside. ;) The automakers just have to get through these growing pains. Note, our Ford Ranger years ago burst into flames on the highway while we were driving it. ICE vehicles are not immune to this kind of problem. ;)

@GershonBenYitzhak

Жыл бұрын

pretty sure they are not making any money on that car right now. GM even said they won't be profitable on EVs for a few years

When this first happened GM should have sent Marry out there to say this is a safety issue and GM will be using LFP batteries to avoid the problem in the future. That any future battery technology would have to prove itself to be as safe as LFP before they would use it. The first manufacturer to state this fact will gain huge loyalty from those who follow the EV technology. Ironically it would have also lowered the cost of production.

@icosthop9998

Жыл бұрын

Mary Barra and her minions are not that smart. 🧠

News Flash, this is impacting more than just the Bolt, several Vehicle models with the same pyrotechnic device for the Belt Tensioner are being recalled across Different Brands.

see EVs suck - glad you are coming around to it.

This is why it’s laughable when people trust GM with the “Ultium” aka, LG Chem BEVs. I wouldn’t trust GM to build a crockpot without being a fire hazard.

What's wrong with these car makers lately, Fire risk recalls, GM 140K, Ford 634K, Hyundai/Kia over a million.

The last one and half months production....so about 10 cars?? GM cannot seem to get out of their own way... 🤣

Getting my 2020 Bolt battery pack replaced on January 23rd

Why would these pre-tensioners be unique to the Bolt?

@theairstig9164

Жыл бұрын

Look where they are made and where the Bolt is made

Would be interesting to know whether the same tensioner was also installed in ICE cars. These would then have the same problem. Unfortunately the press will spin that as yet another BEV issue despite the fact that ist has nothing to do with it. It is like Toyota BZ4 dropping the wheels.

@nyanbrox5418

Жыл бұрын

There actually might have been a cover up with the BZ4, car companies don't just forget to bolt on the wheels properly, the excuse is hard to believe because it's also a saying about sheer incompetence The problem is Toyota isn't an EV company, not that EV companies can't make EVs

@buixote

Жыл бұрын

This *does* sound fishy... Carmakers have been putting these things in carpeted cars for quite some time, now...?

@anekinoo7

Жыл бұрын

Its from the GM press, not media. Recall is for only the volt. The volt is garbage. After its getting discontinued in 2023. Good luck getting any decent support or parts later down the years.

@scottmcshannon6821

Жыл бұрын

this same tensioner has got to be on many many ICE vehicles, it would be really stupid to create a separate seat belt tensioner just for the bolt. in fact probably every GM vehicle made for the last 10 years has probably got the sam tensioner.

@Skylancer727

Жыл бұрын

@@anekinoo7 you can put any battery pack in an EV as long as it has the same voltage. Hell if you want you could get that ampacity pack with nearly twice the capacity of the stock one.

I was thinking they should bring back the Firebird as an electric car, but on second thought ...🤔

@icosthop9998

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@icosthop9998

Жыл бұрын

Firebird/Corvette 2:42 🔥🏎🔥

I wish I could say I'm surprised.

They need to get their cars safer without fires!

Seems like a low probability of a fire since it only applies to cars that have been involved in a crash. You have to survive the crash first then worry about a fire. In my life I’ve seen probably a dozen ICE cars on the side of the road burnt up. The concern about EVs catching fire is overblown.

@alexandrawhitelock6195

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm…seems they catch on fire when parked…🤷‍♀️

KZread is so hiding this video!

Yeah I've been recommending people buy the Bolt if they can stomach the design, since Teslas are expensive and the Bolt is suffering from bad publicity because of fire issues that probably have been overblown... So more fire issues are a disaster for GM

My friend just got a letter from GM that they are discontinuing the Bolt EV and EUV this year.

I think the secret plan of GM is to make those cars set themselves on fire to give EVs a bad name in order to stay longer in the ICE business. 😁

@kimblakely4559

Жыл бұрын

The video says it was NOT the battery, but the seatbelt, big difference.

@shoelessjoe5990

Жыл бұрын

@@kimblakely4559 Where do you found the word "battery" in my sentence?

@rogerfroud300

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, except it's only GM that are getting a bad name, and not EVs in general.

@scifithoughts3611

Жыл бұрын

I wonder…

@Ahda108

Жыл бұрын

Legit !

So Chevy Volts are dual purpose! They’re cars and space heaters!

I was thinking about getting a bolt, but I just don’t know, may get the vw Id.4 instead.

@sandeeppatel7490

Жыл бұрын

Don’t get anything yet. Wait for lfp batteries to show up.

Why don't they drop the old battery technology? Is it just a sunk cost thing?

So the recall involves a part that isn’t related to the fact that a Bolt is an EV. I own one, 75,000 miles. Great car. Just had the 75,000 mile service done. No charge since the car is in perfect order.

Shouldnt the fire be a feature though? Because it can be a good source of heat in the winter.

@nemeanlioness

Жыл бұрын

😂if you get lost with a bolt, just set it on fire to let rescue know your position

I heard that most of the design work on the Bolt was done in Melbourne. Not the battery design I hasten to add!

Still plan on getting one in January. It's still half the price of a Tesla and can have vented seating and a camera rear view mirror Tesla doesn't even have. Plus is a more common issue in cars most people don't know this, but the pretensioner in seat belts is an explosive.

Seat belt system is inactive when parked don’t see how it catch fire?

Guess it’s more than arcs and sparks.😊

Risk of fire, especially lithium battery fire, can set back EV takeup by 5 years. The public won't tolerate the perceived risk. Sure, liquid fuels would burn fiercely but fuel system design largely prevented it. Customer will not tolerate a perceived back step with battery vehicles.

@muskrat3291

Жыл бұрын

About 200,000 ICE vehicles burn each year. According to the NHTSA, there is a 60% less chance of an EV catching fire than an ICE vehicle. Nissan recently recalled 793,000 vehicles due to risk of fire. Owners were told to park their vehicles outside and away from buildings. According to the NHTSA, KIA and Hyundai had nearly 5,000 fires, 198 injuries, and 2 deaths. Owners were also told to park vehicles outside and away from buildings. 5.8 million vehicles were recalled. Ford recently recalled 518,000 vehicles after reports of 20 fires due to cracked fuel lines. Ford has had several recalls over the past 30 years due to fire risk including unattended vehicle fires.

@tomooo2637

Жыл бұрын

Not only is the risk of fire for batteries is much lower for a battery car compared to a ICE car (see statistics - facts), a petrol fire is defined as "unpredictable and explosive" while a battery fire is "predictable and progressive". What this means in reality is that an ICE car on fire, run, get away, don't go back. In an EV you will have time to rescue the occupants, there will be smoke and flames, but it will slowly get worse but won't explode in your face. So, for most rational people, it is much safer to drive a battery car as it won't burst into flames as often, but if it does (in an accident for example), you are more likely to survive when there is a fire - as you don't have get out in a rush, possibly running the risk of greater injury to the occupants who are already injured from the accident as an explosion could happen at any time, and you won't get a warning. So, do some research, and avoid reading the gutter press who are sponsored by people in the oil insdustry.

@davidinkster1296

Жыл бұрын

@@muskrat3291 The figures don't surprise me; they reinforce the point that the media will highlight ANY problems with EVs but similar problems with ICE are not news. EV makers have to be super careful; maybe that's why the legacy carmakers seem to have more problems; their 'old' development procedures are not up to the standard needed for EV. Another nail for their coffin.

@davidinkster1296

Жыл бұрын

@@tomooo2637 Calm down, I'm on your side! I strongly support BEVs and have done for several years now! I was trying to point out that the media are NOT impartial and will happily blow any problems out of proportion. My biggest problem with BEVs is how to afford one as a pensioner.😊

@DanA-nl5uo

Жыл бұрын

All it will take is one manufacturer stating that they will only use LFP batteries that are not a fire risk to end the debate all together. The hype of maximize range has been made the priority at the cost of higher price shorter battery cycle life and having a fire risk. It is a no brainer for someone to simply say they are 100% LFP today and the future battery technology will have to meet the same safety standards as LFP before getting put in their EV products.

Bolt EV does not use the new Ultimatum Platform.

#kulr lithium fire protection

Does anyone know the ratio of bolts made to bolts burned?..and if so what is Tesla built to burned ratio. Just wondering.

@theairstig9164

Жыл бұрын

Any number greater than zero is worth investigating. Ratios are what got Ford in to trouble with the Pinto. Nader is watching

They're rather expensive for fire lighters my local shop does a pack way cheaper than this

the NHTSA need to get some balls and issue a immediate recall on"safety grounds" for the seatbelts and also issue the same recall for the remaining 35% of fire bombs,it should also BAN all sales of the bolt with immediate effect until the car has been thoroughly retested for both faults @ GMs expense of course, letting them issue a recall on the 8th and GM waiting until now to recall them is tantamount to potential class action lawsuits and vehicular homicide, you brake your seatbelt pretensioner locks and your car catches fire if your unlucky you will burn to death, a immediate BAN is the only way to get GM to take responsibility for there actions nothing else works so far, i mean 35% of car still not fixed after the battery recall ,something is seriously wrong @ both GM & NHTSA

GM should bin the Chemistry of the Ultium battery entirely and switch to known safer Chemistry, their direction seems to be constantly wrong.

General Motors ignition switch recalls refers to February 6, 2014 when General Motors recalled about 800,000 of its small cars due to faulty ignition switches, which could shut off the engine while the vehicle was in motion and thereby prevent the airbags from inflating. How many people died from that? They got out of paying out.

Foil on the floor to match my foil hat. LMAO

Seat belt causing fires? It seems engineering malfeasance to change something like a seat belt that always works with an unknown design that occasionally burns the car down. Seat belts have been mandatory for 50 years so you’d expect GM would not go backwards. Gotta respect Toyota for their approach to reliability. That said, there should be a huge market for a low priced EV for urban use & commuting

@hvh377

Жыл бұрын

Merc introduced the seatbelt pretensioners in 1981. These days pretty much all cars have them. Most of them are of the pyrotechnic kind using a gas generator, much like the airbags they work in close conjunction with. This could have happened to any car, not just to an EV.

@paulstubbs7678

Жыл бұрын

Toyota, where the wheels fall off, not sure which is worse.

Chevrolet, come home to a real fire.

Note, this is not a battery issue. It's about a seatbelt pretensioner, a part found in every new car. Also, I can't tell if there have been any fires from this issue. In order for it to be relevant, the Bolt must be involved in a crash that causes a specific sequence of events. "In certain crashes that cause the front seatbelt pretensioners to deploy, the exhaust from the deployed pretensioner may ignite fibers in the floor carpet near the B-pillar." IOW this is not about a parked Bolt spontaneously catching fire. The fix is straightforward, much less involved than the battery pack swap that GM had to carry out earlier. Color me not all that impressed.

An unnamed US carmaker just also placed a large order for new SiC inverter. Do you know more? Will it be Chrysler going for 800 Volt system too?

My thoughts are is that I am glad that I didn't buy a bolt! LOL also I can't wait till I have access to and can afford a lithium iron phosphate battery or blade battery car

@kimblakely4559

Жыл бұрын

It's not the battery. My god, this is a nothing burger, you get an appointment you go in and they fix it the day you bring it to the shop

What about the Testla fires ??

@TheBooban

Жыл бұрын

One day, there will be a pile up on a snowy highway and most of the cars, maybe a semi, maybe a bus, will be EVs. These batteries explode like fireworks.

@skipondowntheroad5833

Жыл бұрын

Every car whether gas powered or battery powered is at risk of catching fire.

This doesn't appear to be too complex a fix. From what I have read, all it requires is installing a metal plate to shield the battery. So they won't have to take apart the entire car to remedy the problem. It is inconvenient for owners, but at least the problem has been identified and fixing it is relatively simple. Even if it takes a day, as long as the owner is provided with a loaner, it shouldn't be a big deal. I know that you prefer Tesla and don't in general like GM, but I think you went a bit over the top with this issue. This is not like the wheels falling off of Toyota EVs.

@scifithoughts3611

Жыл бұрын

I like your perspective. I’d like GM to get EVs right. I don’t think Sam send over the top at all as recalls regarding car fires are shocking. 😅. Maybe such recalls are more common (even with ICE) than we know.

@scifithoughts3611

Жыл бұрын

I’d still consider buying a Bolt. Yes it’s bad news. Every car I’ve ever owned (Ford, Pontiac, GM, Chevy, Fiat) has had recalls. The Audi has been the best car I’ve ever owned and it’s had a few too.

The Chev The Chev The Chev is on fire...

The ultium vehicle, for the 'ultium fire' What on earth have they got in that seat belt tensioners, they are supposed to save lives, not take them. I thought they only have a great spring in them, obviously the US ones have a rocket engine in there... nuts.

Does the chevy "Menlo", the Chinese SAIC version have the same LG chem battery architecture as the other GM Evs do ?

@xiaoyang9758

Жыл бұрын

Battery pack of saic Menlo build by SAIC united auto battery corp , this company is JV by SAIC and CATL .core of battery made by CATL ,and pack by SAIC UABC.

Your kidding!

'Come home to a real fire; drive a Chavy Bolt.'

Based on article I read on Autoblog recall is for Bolt EV not EUV, they use different seatbelt. I tried to include link but got an error

GM is frontruuner in EV technology. The latest issue of fire not only for Bolt's but most of the new cars. About parking it was before recall on 2017-2021 model. It is not restriction for parking inside garages ior 10 ft from home. Not sure why this fire hyper is still new news.

Sounds like something that could have been easily missed in design . Fix sounds relatively simple and has nothing to do with the batteries . If you are buying an electric vehicle you are basically a guinea pig while car manufacturers get real world testing on this relatively new technology . GM like everyone else is playing catch-up to Tesla and they have come a long way by getting in the batters box . The bolt is a nice economical commuter car at a reasonable price in the EV world but it would be nice if they could get a more budgeted and simplified version in a 15 to 20k price range and I think that's what gm is doing is producing a budget EV for the masses . Tesla is actually falling behind GM on this point as Tesla clearly is not interested in this market for now .

Chevy really stabbing their own d

Firebird/Corvette 2:35 - 2:42 🔥🏎🔥

I should have thought that GM would have figured out how to make a seat belt tensioner by now; but I figured they knew how to manufacture ignition switches without an auto-off feature, and boy was I wrong. Well, Toyota evidently doesn't know how to make an automobile with wheels that stay on. And Tesla still keeps talking up (and selling for a huge fee) their "full safe driving" feature. I think it was Stellantis that issued a huge recall the other day because of randomly exploding air bags. Jeez.

This is crazy isn't it? What bad luck. Bolts just want to burn.

Sam, isn't LG a major supplier for Tesla as well?

My bolts haven’t blown up yet

I do like the shape/size of the Bolt - Tesla need to develop similar and dominate this space.

Alyssa Milano must be very happy with her purchase.

I love the bolt it's a perfect car for average peasant consumer civilians and I have never seen a bolt on fire from the battery all the government vehicles are bolts I think there us something else going on we are not told about

GM needs a lot more firesales for their EVs...

@user-zo2pc5lu5q

Жыл бұрын

lol 🤣

@icosthop9998

Жыл бұрын

GM is giving EVs a bad name. 😳

...G.M. is going to exceed Tesla in sales...🤔🤣🤣

@DanA-nl5uo

Жыл бұрын

Well as long as the customers don't die in the fire they will be back in the market with insurance money to buy a new car sooner.

LG is the biggest reason why there are so many fire recalls. Tesla got smart with Panasonic.

@rond1475

Жыл бұрын

Most Korean companies make crap. Hyundai and Kia autos are fire prone and have multiple engine problems and their appliances are nothing but a headache but yet unlike Ford or Chevy they always manage to stay out of the news .

@a5-30-31cts

Жыл бұрын

When a relatively small capacity (small Amp Hour capacity), high voltage battery pack is forced into repeated heavy (high amperage) drain and charge situations, each cell in the pack is repeatedly heated to dangerous levels. Even if the pack manages to not catch fire, premature cell degradation is inevitable. It is GM's overall irresponsibility, poor design and R&D effort, and inefficient vehicle design and shoddy engineering that are the issue. The Bolt is simply too heavy and inefficient in overall design and materials used. It demands too much of the battery pack that is fitted. The fires are only one symptom of the real issue. At the very least, the Bolt needs to: reduce weight (move from steel to lighter materials), and/or it must increase the number of cells in parallel to spread the load across more cells. I doubt that GM will do either because: GM executives are not going to sacrifice any of their enormous salaries towards real R&D and rework of their products. They won't make the pack bigger to better handle the Bolt's demands, because of cost, and because with the present vehicle configuration and design (not optimized for EV application), there's no room for a larger pack. The other way to lower pack stress is to lower the voltage (lower vehicle top speed) in order to increase battery capacity. But is GM going to give up bragging rights/marketability in the interest of safety and longevity? Again, no way. Instead, (as always), GM is resorting to pointing fingers (in this case blaming LG for "defective" batteries).

@mrgurulittle7000

Жыл бұрын

@Raymond Wong. Looks like you're pointing the finger at GM. It's the batteries that catch fire, not anything else. Even LG and Samsung phones were notorious for batteries swelling up and bursting into flames.

The ev guinea pigs continue.

AGAIN?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Hi

The Bolt is cursed

Everyone was pissing on BMW's i3 for many reason especially the price for a fully loaded one ($55k back in 2014).. You get what you pay for. At least the i3 isn't known for bursting into an inferno.. Thank God I didn't get a Bolt, its annoying AF.

And just like that........ GM goes under and EVs keep destroying their save the planet status.

Bolts get recalled while Tesla plunges 200+ ft off cliff and all survive with minor injuries. When you make a great product it sells itself.

Your channel is so informative I hate to question why, if your goal is EV propagation, I don’t understand your continual bias toward Tesla when Tesla’s car are unaffordable for those of us who cannot consider an $80k vehicle. Seriously, at least Bolt is available here in the USA at a price I can consider. Widespread adoption here in the States is be hindered by bought out politicians and GREEDY capitalists! (Imo😊)

@rogerfroud300

Жыл бұрын

It's simple Tesla is the market leader by a huge margin. Their goal is to speed the adoption of EVs, and they are doing more than anyone to reduce the cost of manufacturing them. Eventually this will result in a car cheap enough for all of us. At the moment, there simply isn't enough battery production capacity to make enough cars cheaply enough.

@icosthop9998

Жыл бұрын

Tesla drastically lowered the price of their cars in China because of stiff competition. But for everyone else Not So.

@jimdandy9118

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerfroud300 BYD owns China and VW owns Europe and Tesla is third place in sales there…..where are they a market leader outside of the US?

I cant wait to by an EV.....lmfao....Not.

GM is doing the right thing by being safe and replacing customers' batteries and fixing potential errors, all while Tesla continues to experience battery fires from defective Panasonic batteries and wrecks from the failed full self-driving, killing and injuring customers with no recall. Which is better? A company that takes action to protect customers or one that sweeps fatal facts under the rug? I'll continue to invest in and support GM and call out the pathological liars at Tesla, and tell the truth and hope you start doing the same, Sam.

EV's are a joke - this BOLT vehicle is a "hurry up buy it" waste of money!

Tesla's favorite fan boy seems so elated when non-Tesla EVs have troubles.

It’s funny how you never talk about the teslas that also caught on fire after the hurricane in America 🤡

@Ahda108

Жыл бұрын

Not really..tons of Tesla only Bolt is firey hot out there

If these are Ultiums I’m really sorry for GM. I am a Tesla fan but take no joy in seeing others suffer. Unfortunately this could sink them as they have declared them their future. If a Hummer burns? With Musk’s apparent support for sustainable energy I think he’d help but unfortunately the old guard has to exceed with their own rules and can’t be seen to copy the upstarts that fueled the revolution. Watching the reaction of established companies has been interesting. The first one to shout fire was fired! If the established automakers hadn’t declared war things could have gone much easier.

You too, Sam, really now, what are FUD propagaters paying in Asstralia nowadays?

Click bait bull

Electric vehicles are great at burning after a crash. Keeping you warm in the winter while waiting for Emergency Services to show up! Just make sure you can get out before it turns into a bonfire 🔥 because there won't even be any of your ashes left to return to your family. But what the hell, you save $5,000 on Cremation Costs! They should Add that Savings Cost to their Marketing Material! $*000.00 in government rebates plus save $5,000.00 in cremation costs if you are trapped in the vehicle when it bursts into flames after an accident! LoL Or how about loosing 20-60% of your Range in extreme cold during winter months. Oh but it's green...oh really? Mining the materials to make the batteries is Green? Umm what happens to the used and warn out batteries? Stan Meyers Car that ran on Water would be the true green way to go but there is not nearly as much money/Profits to be made off that!!

Buwahahahha

Keep buying the electric junk vehicles!!

Elon gets people to space. I trust him to make my battery pack. Wouldn’t buy a GM regular car much less an EV…

@DanA-nl5uo

Жыл бұрын

So having a giant methane flamethrower company makes you confident he is a battery expert??? That is some twisted logic from the cult of personality

@niceguyrides

Жыл бұрын

@@DanA-nl5uo Giant methane flamethrower company? And that is representative of your logic? grossly oversimplifying one of the most complicate tasks ever achieved by man. lol

@DanA-nl5uo

Жыл бұрын

@@niceguyrides you mean a task that NASA achieved over 60 years ago. How impressive. If only it where 1967 I might be impressed. But when someone claims to care about the climate crisis then starts a company to burn methane at insane rates of speed I am not impressed. His side venture in selling small flame throwers a few years back makes it worthy of pointing out that SpaceX is just a giant size flamethrower company.

@niceguyrides

Жыл бұрын

@@DanA-nl5uo Again, oversimplification of what Musk had achieved. He has made reusable rockets that can land. He has reduced the costs to send things into space by a massive margin by his innovation in manufacturing. He has advanced AI decades further and He is creating a global system of satellites that will provide internet and information all over the world. Yeah, exactly what Nasa did. . lol All of this privately I might add. As far as burning gas for his rockets. . . yeah, but he is transforming the car, truck, and energy industry to get us onto sustainable forms of energy, which will easily offset what he needs to produce to create other services that can unite and change the world. Yeah, you don't like him. I get that, but you are literally a fool if you do not recognize his genius.

I gave up on GM before their EVs! Tesla in my future!!

But they are cheap.

This stupid LG Chem is effing up the whole industry. They need to get out of this business.

Money is no object for gm, they have plenty, look at gm ceo Mary Bara, they pay her $40 million a year. And for what. Hone many more make that or close to that.