GM Hikaru Ranks the Legends, the GOATs, the Theorists | Tier Maker: Greatest Chess Players

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GM Hikaru Nakamura and IM Levy Rozman, aka @GothamChess discuss the games and rank the legends, goats and theorists from Nimzowich to Carlsen to Kasparov to Anand.
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  • @MoreGMHikaru
    @MoreGMHikaru3 жыл бұрын

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  • @abhayjo

    @abhayjo

    3 жыл бұрын

    where is the remaining part of this video??

  • @luayabuhani2004

    @luayabuhani2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru I respect you so much

  • @rhop5213

    @rhop5213

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m gonna laugh every time I see the fall guy Hikaru

  • @arnavrawat9864

    @arnavrawat9864

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lovely pfp

  • @Sheep.

    @Sheep.

    3 жыл бұрын

    The fall guys Hikaru is the guardian angel of this channel.

  • @friedsugar2701
    @friedsugar27013 жыл бұрын

    *Sees Anand* India: So, I am very interested.

  • @subscriberschallengewith-tc3yc

    @subscriberschallengewith-tc3yc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly XD

  • @BruteZ7957

    @BruteZ7957

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol. I'm an Indian, I literally just did this.

  • @sjegannath6295

    @sjegannath6295

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same but came here for anand AND hikaru. Not just anand.

  • @Fujibayashi50

    @Fujibayashi50

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jonathan-wj6uh wrong

  • @friedsugar2701

    @friedsugar2701

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BruteZ7957 Same, same

  • @sandeeppanda7879
    @sandeeppanda78793 жыл бұрын

    As an Indian, I can verify that Anand's contribution and impact on Indian Chess is unprecedented. His own city of Chennai now has >30 GMs (mostly kids and youth). A whole generation grew up watching him. He is also a very polite and kindhearted man, contrary to the champions that came before him.

  • @maverick4900

    @maverick4900

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Richard Horrocks Tf lol.

  • @danieldelosreyes6800

    @danieldelosreyes6800

    3 жыл бұрын

    You mean the champion after him?

  • @megugu2155

    @megugu2155

    3 жыл бұрын

    30 GMs? must be a nightmare for a striving chess player to be there

  • @wizarddev3506

    @wizarddev3506

    3 жыл бұрын

    *spassky*

  • @laraweinberg7635

    @laraweinberg7635

    3 жыл бұрын

    Emphasis on that last sentence. Fischer in particular was extremely hostile toward women and minorities.

  • @GMPranav
    @GMPranav Жыл бұрын

    I don't know what is more impressive. The sheer amount on Indian GMs inspired by Anand or the fact that Anand is still higher rated than all of them 😂

  • @ZebecZT

    @ZebecZT

    Жыл бұрын

    thats so cool lmao

  • @ngcool4112

    @ngcool4112

    Жыл бұрын

    lmaoo 😂🤣🤣

  • @ramanahveljeyaseelan5406

    @ramanahveljeyaseelan5406

    Жыл бұрын

    The 2nd one lol. I thought Anand dropped back a bit but nah he's still highest rated.

  • @kanekiNamikaze

    @kanekiNamikaze

    8 ай бұрын

    Well this changed last week.. gukesh is currently the highest rated Indian GM

  • @GMPranav

    @GMPranav

    8 ай бұрын

    @@kanekiNamikaze Well, I am not taking away from Gukesh's achievement, but this is more because Anand isn't playing lol. I bet Anand could beat Gukesh in a classical match right now. But the good thing is that Gukesh seems to be only getting stronger with time.

  • @AchillesSeverus
    @AchillesSeverus2 жыл бұрын

    When you say "Chess" in India, everyone thinks of Vishwanath Anand to this very day. His legacy is surmounted in all our memories.

  • @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    Жыл бұрын

    Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

  • @zuesr3277

    @zuesr3277

    Жыл бұрын

    I Only know one name in indian scene his name

  • @aditsaini5094

    @aditsaini5094

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@zuesr3277 prag is a nice player

  • @peterinq

    @peterinq

    11 ай бұрын

    I don’t think that’ll ever even change, he’s an absolute legend

  • @Cristian-de9iu

    @Cristian-de9iu

    7 ай бұрын

    @@aditsaini5094 not even close to the top 3 yet, even drawing against Magnus.

  • @nikhilvenugopal9731
    @nikhilvenugopal97313 жыл бұрын

    The editor is smart, in order to woo the Indian audience, he puts anand on the thumbnail... Fair play XD

  • @gauravpancholi6910

    @gauravpancholi6910

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru approves. Views =stonks

  • @therealbs2000

    @therealbs2000

    3 жыл бұрын

    When will they make a north korean thumbnail

  • @sjegannath6295

    @sjegannath6295

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@therealbs2000 Kim jong un: Stonks.

  • @mehulnaredy3471

    @mehulnaredy3471

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was a fair play , but I feel wierd about it. 😀

  • @sajalgoyal2709

    @sajalgoyal2709

    3 жыл бұрын

    True

  • @reversal
    @reversal3 жыл бұрын

    XQC is a theorist. The Wooden shield didn't create itself!

  • @lunchexlizerd3927

    @lunchexlizerd3927

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also just one of the all time strongest players of the game

  • @rubenvandevelde555

    @rubenvandevelde555

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha

  • @gru9480

    @gru9480

    3 жыл бұрын

    also the first person to break the 3000 rating on FIDE

  • @goldyarora1977

    @goldyarora1977

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gru9480 nope. Anand was about 2800 not 3000. Highest rating is around 2882 by magnus and second is Kasparov.

  • @BruteZ7957

    @BruteZ7957

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw this in Hikarus twitch chat. Lol

  • @wolfslash599
    @wolfslash5992 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru can literally have a conversation with himself for hours

  • @fujiapple9675

    @fujiapple9675

    10 ай бұрын

    And he literally doesn't care, either.

  • @nimnim5149

    @nimnim5149

    8 ай бұрын

    and it would go like "take take take take take ... umm take take take take ........... "

  • @SabakuNoGaara2023

    @SabakuNoGaara2023

    7 ай бұрын

    So I'm something of a Hikaru myself 🙂

  • @Cristian-de9iu

    @Cristian-de9iu

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SabakuNoGaara2023Me as well, the fat c:

  • @MP-tf7cc

    @MP-tf7cc

    7 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @harryishatless
    @harryishatless Жыл бұрын

    At 48:12 Levy says, "In terms of his chess; it speaks for itself." Perhaps unwittingly inspiring Niemann's statement two years later. :D

  • @greatmusic142

    @greatmusic142

    Жыл бұрын

    bro we gotta make this comment popular so im leaving a reply just because, i wanna know if its an actual quote from a grandmaster or is it a coincidence?

  • @Raod14Reference

    @Raod14Reference

    Жыл бұрын

    The foreshadowing speaks for itself

  • @greatmusic142

    @greatmusic142

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Raod14Reference i like what u did there

  • @ElectroDragon16

    @ElectroDragon16

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same lol

  • @jayeshyadav8891
    @jayeshyadav88913 жыл бұрын

    The immense respect Hikaru has for Anand is heartwarming ❤️

  • @coolexio

    @coolexio

    3 жыл бұрын

    And clouding his judgement evidently.

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    or is it to gain indian fans?

  • @dragndorf9

    @dragndorf9

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ Hikaru for sure knows what to say to please people lmao

  • @jayeshyadav8891

    @jayeshyadav8891

    3 жыл бұрын

    People always find something negative in everything. Why can't it be real respect for Anand? Everything Hikaru says seems legit about Anand. Plus he doesn't need to attract Indian audience.

  • @wortyle

    @wortyle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Selim Yıldız So you honestly think Hikaru, the chess prodigy and arguably one of the best blitz player in the world, will put his reputation on the line and lie about how great Anand was just so he can gain more KZread viewers? Sit down.

  • @xoxo94
    @xoxo943 жыл бұрын

    lmao someone in chat says "Lionel Messi vs Adolf Hitler"

  • @lukas4132

    @lukas4132

    3 жыл бұрын

    When 🤣🤣🤣????

  • @genghiskhan7515

    @genghiskhan7515

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol reffering to what?

  • @eegoii

    @eegoii

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@genghiskhan7515 did you even watch the video? Look at the name of players on the chessboard 13:07 Lionel Adalbert vs Adolf Anderssen (Lionel vs Adolf)

  • @ayrangaming8725

    @ayrangaming8725

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eegoii diD yOu EvEn WaTcH thE viDeO???

  • @Michael-xe6im

    @Michael-xe6im

    3 жыл бұрын

    fcear dsadfadsa 13:56 by xGreekgodx

  • @scoobydoku2464
    @scoobydoku2464 Жыл бұрын

    @43:15 Hikaru mentioning Ding as the strongest contendor for #1 and now he is finally world champion

  • @toziassmitt

    @toziassmitt

    11 ай бұрын

    Hikaru knows, always. He is the greatest analyser of the game

  • @user-hb3tt2dd2o

    @user-hb3tt2dd2o

    8 ай бұрын

    He is not world champion yet lol

  • @toziassmitt

    @toziassmitt

    8 ай бұрын

    @@user-hb3tt2dd2o yes he is

  • @TheMaestromMephisto

    @TheMaestromMephisto

    2 ай бұрын

    weakest world champion ever

  • @TYLin0

    @TYLin0

    22 күн бұрын

    @@TheMaestromMephisto The poorest billionaire

  • @manvendra_singh
    @manvendra_singh Жыл бұрын

    I'm Indian now migrated abroad, I did not understand the totality of how much Anand contributed to Chess on and off the board. This is just incredible, thank you Hikaru. I love your streams and congrats on being World Champ!!

  • @TGregers
    @TGregers3 жыл бұрын

    The percentage of work being done in Norway goes down by 85% every time Magnus plays a championship match lol. Couldn't even buy a candybar if you wanted to

  • @Cnut_the_grape

    @Cnut_the_grape

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait really

  • @TGregers

    @TGregers

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Cnut_the_grape haha no ^^ but it is chess mania for sure

  • @chillax9184

    @chillax9184

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just like when Pacquiao has a match. The people in the PH are all on tv, and traffic reduce up to 90-95%

  • @Nerdmonides

    @Nerdmonides

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TGregers ja lol...fra Norge også.

  • @reginaaguila1847

    @reginaaguila1847

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chillax9184 as a Fillipino you speak for the people.

  • @3dxChetanx
    @3dxChetanx3 жыл бұрын

    5 Time 5 Time 5 Time Booker T Reference. Good one

  • @fresh7294

    @fresh7294

    3 жыл бұрын

    You like chess

  • @clashkingdom3647

    @clashkingdom3647

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fresh7294 same question

  • @kovaicheckmates

    @kovaicheckmates

    3 жыл бұрын

    Super Earth God

  • @xa-1274

    @xa-1274

    3 жыл бұрын

    You like jazz

  • @mmmmmm2619

    @mmmmmm2619

    3 жыл бұрын

    ? ? ?? ?? ? ? So Wesley and Shakhriyar isWhere

  • @greennin
    @greennin Жыл бұрын

    Rewatching these old Levy and Hikaru videos. They were all so good, hope they do stuff again someday. I was so happy Hikaru rated Anand so highly, that guy is really something else. Even now he's still playing at the top level, in his 50s! He's something else in every way.

  • @toziassmitt

    @toziassmitt

    11 ай бұрын

    I think levy and hikaru had a falling out after hikaru said levy will never become a GM in his lifetime

  • @piergyo
    @piergyo Жыл бұрын

    Gotham: "DIng Liren? Isn't he getting smoked in the cadidates?" 2023: *let me introduce myself*

  • @jram00
    @jram003 жыл бұрын

    One thing I can say for Anand (I'm from India) is that he broke into the ranks when the erstwhile Russia/USSR was still THE dominant force in Chess. When I read about how Russian players had a thriving ecosystem that helped them learn, compete and rise up the ranks, Anand's access to tournaments, sponsorships, and strong players (to learn from) was in a much-diminished quality and quantity. (It brings a smile whenever I think that he had to frequent the Tal Chess Club in the Russian embassy in Chennai to improve his game). This to me justifies his ranking 100%.

  • @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    Жыл бұрын

    Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

  • @wishme8739

    @wishme8739

    10 ай бұрын

    You guys know that he lived in Spain for very long time to have access to European chess facilities?

  • @harsh....8993

    @harsh....8993

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​@@wishme8739and do u that Spain has had only 1 GM with rating of 2700+ in there entire chess history ... So much for European chess facilities lol

  • @Meddimehell
    @Meddimehell3 жыл бұрын

    Norwegian here. I fully agree with Anand being a God of chess. I am proud of Carlsen, of course, but Anand deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest in chesshistory.

  • @johnstrawb3521

    @johnstrawb3521

    2 жыл бұрын

    Carlsen? Thus far at a classical time control has only beaten an old, disinterested Anand, and Nepo having a nervous breakdown. That's it. Granted Carlsen beat Karjakin and Caruana at trivially short speed chess matches, but that's irrelevant towards deciding the World Chess Championship.

  • @CraftyFREAKERS

    @CraftyFREAKERS

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnstrawb3521 oh come on.....magnus is world champion for a reason , stop talking as if he isnt worthy

  • @joske7804

    @joske7804

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnstrawb3521 stop riding anand so badly, why do you care?

  • @nee7427

    @nee7427

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joske7804 let him speak his heart...why do you care?

  • @sammyttheg412

    @sammyttheg412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnstrawb3521 Carlson is a way better player in a way better era

  • @mansah707
    @mansah7072 жыл бұрын

    47:04 my fav moment . Thank you Hikaru. Fischer is a true Legend of the game . He ll never be forgotten.

  • @josegonzalez8177
    @josegonzalez81773 жыл бұрын

    Capablanca was so good that Alekhine hired a Team of grandmasters to help him win the title, Changing the dynamic of the game ( at least its the first I have heard of someone doing that) his games are the greatest teaching tool around (for now and probably forever ), for those reasons I consider him a chess god. Euwe was Lucky that Alekhine was avoiding a rematch with Capablanca

  • @DarkLawd8
    @DarkLawd83 жыл бұрын

    48:00 Hikaru burst into a laugh expecting his name to be announced by Levy but is devastated to hear Agadmator's name as his face expressions show.

  • @prashant5229

    @prashant5229

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is that brutal? Cuz it seems to

  • @DarkLawd8

    @DarkLawd8

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@prashant5229 For a person with his ego, yes it is brutal.

  • @prashant5229

    @prashant5229

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DarkLawd8 umm...ok you got a point lol. I'm noticing this too from a while. But it's just a nature of that person :)

  • @Baraa.K.Mohammad

    @Baraa.K.Mohammad

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@prashant5229 I mean.. from what I've seen, a big ego is really something almost all Chess players that I've seen had in them. I don't know if the game itself forces that kind of behavior or trait, but all that aside, Hikaru is really humble if you watch his streams and compare his attitude to other big huge Chess personalities! His Japanese non-confrontational nature and slightly self-conscious behavior is apparent! So putting that in mind, I think he is really humble for a Chess phenomenon!

  • @douche6106

    @douche6106

    Жыл бұрын

    was thinking the same lol

  • @IndrajitRajtilak
    @IndrajitRajtilak3 жыл бұрын

    I know I am biased, don't mind if it is pandering, I LOVE what Hikaru said about Anand. Anand was the reason my dad got me into chess! 5 people in my school were IMs, many of them were inspired by and had met Anand!

  • @user-ww9su7qv6s

    @user-ww9su7qv6s

    3 жыл бұрын

    Woah 5 IMs in school?! Thats awesome.

  • @generalmalaise2930

    @generalmalaise2930

    2 жыл бұрын

    5 ims in one school thats actually astonishing

  • @johnhinkleman9757

    @johnhinkleman9757

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not pandering, I’m not Indian and agree with everything he said 100% Anand is a saint of chess.

  • @thezerowulf2046

    @thezerowulf2046

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think that speaks to how good he is then.

  • @angelocarterm

    @angelocarterm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Funny how today I was looking for the fight between Indra and indrajit and I found you with this name in a Ramdon chess video

  • @2floofy
    @2floofy3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao, my entire friend-group plays chess now, and its all due to hikaru, and im sure theres hundreds of thousands who were pulled in by hikaru and pogchamps overall. Hikarus definitely breathed new life into chess for regular-day people everywhere, and for that I dont think he can go anywhere but God of Chess

  • @bgrowsmars3918
    @bgrowsmars39182 жыл бұрын

    Both you guys have brought chess back in my life and when I say back I’ve never loved it and played it like I do now

  • @shreyvarma9375
    @shreyvarma93753 жыл бұрын

    Sees Anand on the top Le Indian - So you have chosen Likes

  • @winterwarden

    @winterwarden

    3 жыл бұрын

    this comment is so bad and I love it

  • @barindersingh8537
    @barindersingh85373 жыл бұрын

    U know when i was kid i doesnt know about chess a single bit, but whenever someone say chess i just know only vishy anand for me he is inspirational, God of chess bcz at that time there are not so many coaches, books, and any other stuf in india, nowdays there is everything on internet,

  • @Myname11241

    @Myname11241

    3 жыл бұрын

    remember parle g ,g mane genius

  • @barindersingh8537

    @barindersingh8537

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Unknownuser-vq9ul

    @Unknownuser-vq9ul

    3 жыл бұрын

    And thus Indian chess pride was born. Nowadays there's always at least 1 Indian guy clashing pieces with you on a normal match. I wish the Philippines would have 1 too.( A world chess champion)

  • @barindersingh8537

    @barindersingh8537

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Unknownuser-vq9ul i wish...

  • @aronmendoza297

    @aronmendoza297

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Unknownuser-vq9ul wait me vr0

  • @haraldkjrgensen2255
    @haraldkjrgensen22553 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Carlsen is not only inspiring Norway but all of Scandinavia so Denmark and Sweden to. We in Denmark are also getting hyped for the World Championship and cheer for Carlsen

  • @manoharbauskar3605
    @manoharbauskar36053 жыл бұрын

    No, Dibyendu Barua became Grandmaster after Vishwanathan Anand. I remember, that time Grandmaster Vishwanathan Anand and international master Pravin Thhipse were in Indian newspapers for playing in world class tournaments. When Dibyendu Barua became Grandmaster, first time I heard his name. 🙏🙏

  • @espeed.soeren
    @espeed.soeren3 жыл бұрын

    how dare u rank the legends? Hikaru: "I'm the bongcloud legend, so I do".

  • @geonikhil
    @geonikhil3 жыл бұрын

    So here's the index (thank me later)- Anand: 08:54 Capablanca: 32:22 Carlsen: 36:21 Caruana: 40:08 Ficher: 46:55

  • @geonikhil

    @geonikhil

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe a second part will come. Kasparov would definitely be on this list.

  • @dhruvjain7934

    @dhruvjain7934

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nikhil Sharma under rated comment

  • @mehranchoudhury669

    @mehranchoudhury669

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which tier was he in?

  • @bd-ot8jm

    @bd-ot8jm

    3 жыл бұрын

    👆This should be the most liked comment 👏👏👏

  • @bernardobila4336

    @bernardobila4336

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @bgrowsmars3918
    @bgrowsmars39182 жыл бұрын

    Just so you know , your collaborations with Levy are some of my favorites

  • @lfr234
    @lfr2343 жыл бұрын

    GM Hikaru: I dont know a whole lot about Akiba: * Goes on to explain like everything related to them*

  • @GunfireSerenade
    @GunfireSerenade3 жыл бұрын

    GM Hikaru: “So what do you think about X?” Levy: “Yeah I don’t know much about X”

  • @govardhanreddy1867
    @govardhanreddy18673 жыл бұрын

    8:53 Vishwanathan Anand 🙏🙏🙏

  • @davechan7661

    @davechan7661

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was looking for this. Thank you

  • @anmolsrivastava1206
    @anmolsrivastava12064 ай бұрын

    I love the fact how much hikaru respects Anand.

  • @JazzyArtKL
    @JazzyArtKL Жыл бұрын

    Really cool idea, but I miss GM Jan Timman, GM Peter Leko and GM Gata Kamsky.

  • @lukasmakesmusictoooldtolea8122
    @lukasmakesmusictoooldtolea81223 жыл бұрын

    Ending the video right before ranking himself.... most epic cliffhanger ever

  • @Nikhil-ox6wc

    @Nikhil-ox6wc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jackstrider9509 jeez bro. Why did you have to spoil it

  • @JuliusKingsley0

    @JuliusKingsley0

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Nikhil-ox6wc well ofc he would but I’m quite interested in Hikaru’s ranking in his own tier list.

  • @ivanhendr

    @ivanhendr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Teasy

  • @dragndorf9

    @dragndorf9

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jackstrider9509man's gotta keep his job tbf

  • @kardsufur2966

    @kardsufur2966

    3 жыл бұрын

    his own rating will be god level in blitz, 'theorist' in classic normal chess

  • @hmecGaming
    @hmecGaming3 жыл бұрын

    11:30, Hikaru you are absolutely right, Anand made chess mainstream in India , he has inspire many people in India to play chess and he is still doing it,

  • @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    Жыл бұрын

    Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

  • @itzMoJo67
    @itzMoJo673 жыл бұрын

    That's aweome they mentioned Agadmator.. if you enjoy watching chess analyse breaking down games, he's the man. been subbed for years.

  • @SaurabhShukla_22
    @SaurabhShukla_2224 күн бұрын

    a way to describe Anand in India would be like this : until recently people didn't know Anand as a chess player, but chess as a game which was played by someone called Viswanathan Anand at International level

  • @gamessportsandmore3371
    @gamessportsandmore33713 жыл бұрын

    6-3 with 25 draws is the definition of getting smoked apparently.(capablanca-alekhine).

  • @manugonzalez4921
    @manugonzalez49213 жыл бұрын

    You could have invited Agadmator for this list, to share his vast knowledge.

  • @jesuschristsaves9067

    @jesuschristsaves9067

    3 жыл бұрын

    I read vast knowledge in his voice

  • @bodhisattvaFM

    @bodhisattvaFM

    3 жыл бұрын

    "And it is here, after Akiba Rubenstein that we have a brand new tier list".

  • @juliocezarsilva5979

    @juliocezarsilva5979

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bodhisattvaFM completely* new

  • @youngminds2384

    @youngminds2384

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello everyone...

  • @kamitebyani5309

    @kamitebyani5309

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would respect Agadmator input much more than Levy. Much more !

  • @alessandrofavaretto4360
    @alessandrofavaretto43603 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: in the Immortal Game, if Kieseritzky, instead of Na6, moved the light-squared bishop to create an escape for his King, he would have probably saved the game.

  • @imnotftw
    @imnotftw3 жыл бұрын

    I wish we got that Karpov - Fischer match. Would've been epic.

  • @justamove4137
    @justamove41373 жыл бұрын

    At some point Hikaru is gonna take the JUICER

  • @scuderia7683
    @scuderia76833 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru said he doesn't know much about Akiba then proceeds to talk about him so much 😂😂

  • @bananonymouslastname5693
    @bananonymouslastname5693 Жыл бұрын

    I did not expect a Booker T reference. That made me happy in a very silly way. It's fun when the outside of chess personality peeks in.

  • @jonathanbaxter5821
    @jonathanbaxter58213 жыл бұрын

    41:05 Levy does great impersonations. That was perfect Caruana.

  • @JoeKell365
    @JoeKell3653 жыл бұрын

    you should have made this one with agadmator, considering he does a ton of research for his showings of historic games

  • @danielbozza

    @danielbozza

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is so poor their knowledge of chess history... i am ashamed 😞

  • @webdevacademy3496

    @webdevacademy3496

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @ArthurSeijiNishikawa

    @ArthurSeijiNishikawa

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, Levy gives a shout out to him at 48:00

  • @True123.54

    @True123.54

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BHAKTIBROPHY in this video it seems to be about having fun and not being absolutely correct so yeah they just had fun :)

  • @deputyvillageidiot

    @deputyvillageidiot

    2 жыл бұрын

    So many times, Hikaru’s face looks shocked, disappointed, and frustrated by things that Levy says.

  • @bettyjane6684
    @bettyjane66843 жыл бұрын

    Love your exchange and personalities - thanks Hikaru and Levy!

  • @mhkubaid
    @mhkubaid3 жыл бұрын

    wow man.. the respect you have for Anand, you just deserve respect for thinking that deep!

  • @udityardass
    @udityardass2 жыл бұрын

    47:55 Can’t miss but notice how Hikaru thought Gotham was going to name him and suddenly the conversation takes a different path.. Really funny

  • @minephlip

    @minephlip

    Жыл бұрын

    lmao thanks for pointing that out. The surprise and disappointment on his face is great and he makes it so awkward by just ignoring Levys entire statement about agadmator

  • @cringelord511
    @cringelord5113 жыл бұрын

    because of anand i started playing chess

  • @theodyssey4982

    @theodyssey4982

    3 жыл бұрын

    You must be Indian

  • @user-vs3lw6xs7n

    @user-vs3lw6xs7n

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Vibhav Parekh its rather a fun fact than an issue i think :')

  • @nitishgoyal6851

    @nitishgoyal6851

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes.. mee too

  • @cringelord511

    @cringelord511

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@theodyssey4982 yes hikaru rightly mentioned the impact he has had on chess community in india

  • @user-vs3lw6xs7n

    @user-vs3lw6xs7n

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Vibhav Parekh i think idians are good people, chess community probably thinks the same

  • @7uc4s
    @7uc4s3 жыл бұрын

    The awkward moment when they were analysing Carlsen .. lol

  • @gmpillo604
    @gmpillo604 Жыл бұрын

    “First, then, Paul Morphy was never so passionately fond, so inordinately devoted to chess as is generally believed. An intimate acquaintance and long observation enable us to state this positively. His only devotion to the game, if it may be so termed, lay in his ambition to meet and to defeat the best players and great masters of this country and of Europe. He felt his enormous strength, and never, for a moment, doubted the outcome. Indeed, before his first departure for Europe he privately and modestly, yet with perfect confidence, predicted to us his certain success, and when he returned he expressed the conviction that he had played poorly, rashly; that none of his opponents should have done so well as they did against him. But, this one ambition satisfied, he appeared to have lost nearly all interest in the game.” - Charles de Maurian

  • @MUFFINHEAD1985
    @MUFFINHEAD19853 жыл бұрын

    I don't have a clue about how to even set up a chess board but watching these vids are like watching the history of the Sith and Jedis.

  • @TheIkaist
    @TheIkaist3 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru : Anand got a country of Billion people interested in chess. Also Hikaru/(His editor) : Puts Anand in the Thumbnail 😏

  • @thegiftedteacher
    @thegiftedteacher3 жыл бұрын

    “It’s not Botez, I’ll tell you that.” 😂😂

  • @animegypsy5925
    @animegypsy59253 жыл бұрын

    A bookerT reference was the last thing I expected on this channel. It made my day!

  • @sandipanchatterjee5017
    @sandipanchatterjee50178 ай бұрын

    Man I’m really happy that someone talked about Dibyendu Barua..even Indians don’t know his name!!!

  • @takispapadopoulos7198
    @takispapadopoulos71983 жыл бұрын

    I would LOVE to see Magnus react on this video and give his honest opinion on the ranking of all of these people. Could we please make this a reality?(and of course his agreements/disagreements with Levy and Naka)

  • @Mignon15

    @Mignon15

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tbh I think he would hate this kind of list seeing as how they place such weight on influence in the chess world instead of the players' chess skill. It felt a bit more like a popularity list at some points.

  • @Maximocow

    @Maximocow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mignon15 well it does say he’s ranking the “legends”. It’s not really possible to rank players on skill because of course players from 2020 would be better than players from 1858. That’s why he’s more talking about their impact on the game of chess.

  • @takispapadopoulos7198

    @takispapadopoulos7198

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Maximocow I agree with you but people like Morphy and Capablanca it's obvious that they were way ahead of their time and would be extraordinary GMs in our time as well. I mean if we can deduce that, all the existing GMs know way better.

  • @Brazz27

    @Brazz27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Magnus just doesnt seem to care about this kind of stuff.. I dont really care either, Im watching because its an easy way to learn a lot of stuff about lots of players I didnt really know anything about.. But Magnus have nothing to gain from doing something like that

  • @richarddawson5836

    @richarddawson5836

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mignon15 This list is a joke. When Hikaru puts himself in God tier it loses all credibility.

  • @kardsufur2966
    @kardsufur29663 жыл бұрын

    hikaru rating has to be, in blitz: god level in classic chess: theorist

  • @srinivaspendurti1170

    @srinivaspendurti1170

    3 жыл бұрын

    True

  • @ripcandice70

    @ripcandice70

    3 жыл бұрын

    But he’s not even undisputed no 1 in blitz tho?

  • @garry3465

    @garry3465

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ripcandice70 he is ranked 1 in blitz.

  • @ripcandice70

    @ripcandice70

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@garry3465 but not the blitz world champion

  • @DLXN-lp9cj

    @DLXN-lp9cj

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ripcandice70 well that's the problem , rating wise he is absolutely no.1 in blitz but he's not a world champion , so I would put him in either legend or great + unlucky , but there's a small chance that hikaru could be in the god of chess

  • @brianjanson3498
    @brianjanson34983 жыл бұрын

    How can you not recognize Alekhine? He was not only one of the best, but was notorious. I've known his face since I was a teenager.

  • @robbob5302

    @robbob5302

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know, right?

  • @chizuru1999
    @chizuru19993 жыл бұрын

    I have been watching your videos Hikaru! Like literally almost every video this past month. Love from India really into chess again after I left playing in 2017-18. 👍🏻😊

  • @gyanendramaurya2082
    @gyanendramaurya20823 жыл бұрын

    Anand is also having impact on hikaru's youtube view 😂

  • @KirtiKumarKasat1
    @KirtiKumarKasat13 жыл бұрын

    Kids offend people, legends like Levy offend countries 😂

  • @yashpandey3.3.3

    @yashpandey3.3.3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which country ??

  • @SK-pj8mg

    @SK-pj8mg

    3 жыл бұрын

    this aged like fine wine

  • @joelwilliamson3322

    @joelwilliamson3322

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yashpandey3.3.3 Hikaru was talking about China, because Levy said Fabiano Caruana was the undisputed candidate for world champion. This disrespected the Chinese player Ding Liren, who Hikaru said was also a strong candidate. It's kinda funny tho, because recently half of Indonesia was out to get Levy for catching an Indonesian cheater. Look up Dewa Kipas for the story.

  • @yashpandey3.3.3

    @yashpandey3.3.3

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joelwilliamson3322 thanx for explanation☺️☺️

  • @raeeskhan6

    @raeeskhan6

    Жыл бұрын

    Levy seems salty to see Anand up there, these whites just want to see themselves above rest of others 😏 (same applies to Ding or any other asian player to be fair)

  • @SpeakingCommonSense
    @SpeakingCommonSense3 жыл бұрын

    I'm just a regular guy that was checking out a chess video. This Hikaru guy is proof you can be amazingly smart and still socially inadequate.

  • @Dagre7
    @Dagre7 Жыл бұрын

    Just watching this now and seeing Ding discussed as 'getting smoked in candidates' is quite funny now - hindsight 20/20 I know

  • @JasonsChannel62
    @JasonsChannel623 жыл бұрын

    You two playing each other from famous positions was a good idea for a video series.

  • @karthikchakkirala2038
    @karthikchakkirala20383 жыл бұрын

    This is great and Hikaru was so right in rankings and taking the objective stand point

  • @killerninja4715
    @killerninja4715 Жыл бұрын

    43:26 the irony in 2023 😂

  • @nee7427
    @nee74272 жыл бұрын

    I live in a corner of the country of India and I still remember when I was just 10 years old and Aanand became the world champion. Only because of this Chess became a part of my childhood

  • @MrSilus2000
    @MrSilus20003 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Mikhail Tal was by far the greatest, especially when we now see the direction chess has gone. We are playing like robots. Mikhail Tal was trying to explore full human potential. Creativity, courage, inspiration.

  • @vedaryan334

    @vedaryan334

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Computers have taken us forwards but also backwards

  • @joelabraham6834

    @joelabraham6834

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's got the most exciting style of play. Im not sure about greatest though.

  • @rajsub3884

    @rajsub3884

    Жыл бұрын

    He is one of greatest audience also need entertainment not computer like boring game that's what happening

  • @rajsub3884

    @rajsub3884

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joelabraham6834 I consider greatest only due to fact he was very creative created log of complications which in oid days without engine hard to figure out these days all possible that sixty years ago

  • @zboub7025

    @zboub7025

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joelabraham6834 anderssen fits there too

  • @sevenheadedmirror8505
    @sevenheadedmirror85053 жыл бұрын

    Capa played almost 100 years ago and still ranks top according to programs, that's a GOAT. Bobby super-inspiring but Karpov already had people wondering if Fischer would have retained 1st place the next year after his tragic retirement.

  • @sunritroykarmakar4406

    @sunritroykarmakar4406

    3 жыл бұрын

    indian player sultan khan defeated capablanca without prep

  • @sevenheadedmirror8505

    @sevenheadedmirror8505

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sunritroykarmakar4406 Sultan was so awesome, I think Reshevsky and him were the two saddest untapped potentials of chess

  • @BruteZ7957

    @BruteZ7957

    3 жыл бұрын

    Take into consideration the fact that Bobby crushed the scene like no one else when he entered the chess world. I mean, how many times have you seen people going 6-0 against top players? He even mopped the frickin floor with then best player Spasky!!

  • @xa-1274

    @xa-1274

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shamant he had a great run but it was waaay to short run, look at Kasparov, when he was 44 he was the world champion for half of his life, sure fisher was completely dominant, but he retained his title for three years before losing his marbles. He’s a #1 undisputed at best for breaking the Russian curse

  • @BruteZ7957

    @BruteZ7957

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@xa-1274 I agree that kasparov was there to stay, but even he didn't completely outclass his opponents like Bobby did. Maybe(mostly) Fischer would lose against kasparov, but chess is a sport where you can't compare players from different times as it gets built on previous knowledge.

  • @Johnsli
    @Johnsli3 жыл бұрын

    A note to the discussion at 37:40 ish. In India there are 1,3-1,4 billion people. In Norway there are 5 million. So it is not so strange that India have more talents even if the popularity would be the same. In Norway chess has grown, I do not know how many have started playing because of Carlsen but it has certainly become more popular here. And Anand is more than 20 years older than Carlsen, so you will not necessarily have seen the effect in terms of getting through our talents yet. Not to say they ever will, but... The tournaments are broadcasted live on TV.

  • @arielioffe1810
    @arielioffe181011 ай бұрын

    43:35: Levi: "Ding Liren... but isn't he getting smoked in the candidates?" That aged like fine milk...

  • @davidmes6267
    @davidmes62673 жыл бұрын

    Max Euwe has also written over 100 chess books (have a couple) and has really been an inspiration for many in the Netherlands

  • @gweah7821

    @gweah7821

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I have one of his books too. However, considering all the legends like Keres, Rubinstein etc who weren’t world champions, he’s a bit of a fluke world champion. He’s like the Greece of chess champions :)

  • @knightishraq
    @knightishraq3 жыл бұрын

    Magnus inspired me to enjoy chess more than anything. His apps helped a lot too. I am just a Magnus fanboy I guess.

  • @DLee-jd4yw

    @DLee-jd4yw

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's definitely valid.

  • @imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886

    @imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tho i am not Indian but almost anyone would agree with me if I say he is easily in top 8 players of all time.

  • @knightishraq

    @knightishraq

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886 i aint one either man xO I am a bangladeshi, I do fall in the same subcontinent tho

  • @SonOfDrogo

    @SonOfDrogo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@knightishraq Sherlock wireless network momentarily lost his connection there. xD

  • @perkl1234

    @perkl1234

    3 жыл бұрын

    Magnus is the first player in modern history that I feel treats chess more like sport and less like science. He plays these strange opening choices in order to capitalize on his own strengths as a player, rather than trying to find the theoretically "correct" or "best" opening, if that makes sense. And he is undoubtedly one of the greatest ambassadors of chess to ever live, second to maybe only Kasparov. No one can ever beat Kasparovs Deep Blue moment.

  • @ashleysilver5594
    @ashleysilver559417 күн бұрын

    Anand is the only player to have won the world chess championship in tournament, match, and knockout format, as well as rapid time controls. 5 times world champion in classical and 2 times rapid.

  • @mrmathh3680
    @mrmathh3680 Жыл бұрын

    48:15 now we know where hans got the "chess speaks for itself" quote from.

  • @zack1140
    @zack11403 жыл бұрын

    Alternative title: Chat typing PogO for 53 minutes straight

  • @adebih8126
    @adebih81263 жыл бұрын

    magnus, bobby and kasparov are in the league of their own

  • @joshuagarcia5007

    @joshuagarcia5007

    3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot mikhail tal

  • @nubianpwr

    @nubianpwr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuagarcia5007 Absolutely - Tal was genius... along with Bobby and Magnus

  • @donkbonktj5773

    @donkbonktj5773

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nubianpwr Sure Tal was a creative attacking player, but his moves were not as accurate as Fischer and Magnus.

  • @user-bk9fk2tq2z

    @user-bk9fk2tq2z

    3 ай бұрын

    Morphy is there alongside Fischer, Carlsen and Kasparov.

  • @kc4276
    @kc42768 ай бұрын

    I can’t even play chess (nor do I watch it at all - this video just popped up in my feed), but even I know just about everything about Anand’s career. He was/is absolutely massive in India.

  • @henrykaspar3634
    @henrykaspar3634 Жыл бұрын

    Here is my take. First, one can only say which champions stood out relative to the competition at the time. Everything else is mute, as the game changes. Champions who clearly stood out - each in a somewhat different way - include Lasker, Capablanca, Botvinnik, Fischer, Kasparov, Carlsen. Fischer was probably the most dominant player ever, but only for a few years. By contrast, Lasker was the world's best player for 20+ years and in the top 3 for 30+ years - unsurpassed to this day. Kasparov combines longevity and level dominance like nobody else, though Carlsen is getting there. Botvinnik was super-dominant in the late 40s and then elite for another 20 years. Capablanca dominated for maybe 10 years - 1915-25 - and brought chess to a new level, he was elite for 20+ years, while having to deal with Lasker before and Alekhine after him. So how do one rate these against one another? It's a matter of perspective. Good arguments speak for Kasparov at the top, but one could also argue Fischer, maybe even Lasker. If you rate Kasparov highly you probably also have a weak spot for Carlsen. If Fischer is your guy you probably rank Capablanca highly too. The next category include Alekhine and Karpov, whose already great achievements would look even greater were it not for the brilliance of their immediate predecessors and successors. Karpov was #1 for 10 years, but without Kasparov he would have dominated world chess for 20+. Similar, Alekhine was the world's strongest also for a decade but was sandwiched between Capablanca and Botvinnik. Anand could be added to this group - he was the world's strongest player for "only" about 3 years or so, but he was elite for 20+, and sandwiched between Kasparov and Carlsen. Hard to do better in the circumstance. In the pre-championship/early championship age, Morphy and Steinitz can’t be overlooked. Morphy was in terms of peak dominance probably even more impressive than Fischer, though of course the scene in the 1850s was very different from the 1960s and 70s. Steinitz's longevity at the top comes close to Lasker/Kasparov/Karpov dimensions. So these are the A-legends of the game if you wish. Then come ‘normal’ world champions like Kramnik, Tal, Smyslov, Petrosian, Spassky, Euwe; and strong non-champions who were a tad unlucky but left their mark on the game: the likes of Caruana, Topalov, Korchnoi, Bronstein, Keres, Reshevsky, Maroczy, Tarrasch, Zukertort. Korchnoi wasn't weaker than Spassky, for example, but was unlucky to peak when Karpov dominated, while Spasski could slip in right before Fischer's period of absolute dominance. Peak Topalov was as strong as peak Anand or peak Kramnik. By contrast, ranking legends on the basis of "who would beat who" compares apples with oranges. Every talented 15 years old who knows how to use chessbase and stockfish knows a 1000 times more than Lasker or Capablanca - and hence would beat them on opening preparation alone. Based on this, my tentative attempt at an all-time ranking based on significance is below - though I have no problem if people come to other results - this isn't rocket science. I'm reasonably comfortable with my top 11, thereafter it becomes murky. This isn't rocket science. 1 Kasparov 2 Carlsen 3 Fischer 4 Morphy 5 Capablanca 6 Lasker 7 Botvinnik 8 Karpov 9 Alekhine 10 Steinitz 11 Anand (from here with commentary) 12 Smyslov - world's strongest player in first half of the 1950s. In the mix for another 30 years 13 Tal - somewhat erratic but in the mix for 25 years. World's strongest around 1960 14 Kramnik - never ranked #1 but took the title from Kasparov, elite for some 15 years 15 Petrosian - 6 years as world champion, strongest player 1962-64 16 Topalov - FIDE champion, three-way rivalry for #1 with Anand and Kramnik 2005-10 17 Korchnoi - in the mix for some 30 and #2 for 10 years, incl. late 1970s (Karpov's reign) 18 Tarrasch - world's strongest around 1890, then second fiddle to Lasker for 10+ years 19 Spassky - elite for 10+ and in the mix for almost 30 years, world champion in the late 1960s 20 Zukertort - #2 behind Steinitz 1874-84 21 Reshevsky - elite from the early 1940s to the mid-1950s, in the mix for #1 twice 22 Bronstein - briefly the strongest player in 1950/51, elite for 10+ years 23 Euwe - elite in the late 1930s and world champion, in the mix 1930-50 24 Caruana - elite for the past 9 years, several years #2 behind Carlsen 25 Keres - elite in the late 1940s and late 1950-s, in the mix for almost 30 years Honorable mention: Maroczy, Anderssen, Gunsberg, Kolisch, Aronian, Paulsen, Rubinstein, Fine, Najdorf, Blackburne, Pillsbury, Bogoljubov.

  • @acerimmerz
    @acerimmerz3 жыл бұрын

    one thing for sure is that India takes it's sports very seriously and always inspired by champions - Anand to chess is almost as of legend to Sachin Tendulkar is to cricket, and Sachin was nicknamed 'god' so perfectly apt

  • @abhisheknegi1794
    @abhisheknegi17943 жыл бұрын

    12:20 remind me of Anand interview with Shekhar Gupta. Where Gupta shares his story of meeting Kasparov

  • @rammzzi
    @rammzzi3 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru: talks for 10 minutes Levi: yeah

  • @sa9245
    @sa92452 ай бұрын

    I have to say I feel like Hikaru has grown a lot since then. He has some awkward moments in this (not bad, just a bit off). He is a lot more fluid and adept at presenting and interacting back and forth nowadays. I wish they'd make some more content like this in the future.

  • @mayuresh8462
    @mayuresh84623 жыл бұрын

    Chess is booming in India and chess will see it's golden days if it goes to it's peak popularity in India. Then u will understand why Vishy is God of chess!

  • @robbob5302

    @robbob5302

    2 жыл бұрын

    India is lucky to have Anand. I'm from the US. We have Fischer. Who sadly self-destructed, to our nations embarrassment. Cherish Vishy.

  • @evelynn4273
    @evelynn42735 ай бұрын

    I think you'd have to say Fabi and Hikaru are both in the "Great + Unlucky" because Magnus exists. Perhaps "Great + Lucky" should be lower than "Great + Unlucky".

  • @GoodnotGreat88
    @GoodnotGreat88 Жыл бұрын

    Its crazy to me how Hikarus mind works. Levy: the Tiers are messed up, Hikaru: let me give you a history lesson how WW1 started.

  • @laurieprice535
    @laurieprice5353 жыл бұрын

    I am now a fan of Hikaru,thoroughly entertained by this excellent presentation

  • @marksmith3947

    @marksmith3947

    11 ай бұрын

    He's an ignoramus about non chess topics

  • @cyrusvanbeethoven4626
    @cyrusvanbeethoven46263 жыл бұрын

    Where's the second half of the Video? I wanna see Morphy, Tal, and Chuky get analyzed!!

  • @kaustubhkulkarni1331
    @kaustubhkulkarni1331 Жыл бұрын

    Seeing this video after ding liren has become the world champion😅

  • @nexesses1548
    @nexesses15482 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a tier list of raw player strength? (Which will mostly be modern players). But I always find it more effective to learn from the strongest, not the “most legendary”. Learn from the people who are the most accurate in the most difficult positions. Find tactics that work at the highest modern level. Maybe also people like Dubov who understand the relation of piece value relative to activity and tempo and still competes at the highest level.

  • @kad9947

    @kad9947

    Жыл бұрын

    You will see Kasparov in that sea of modern players

  • @MrPrush-ji4gs
    @MrPrush-ji4gs3 жыл бұрын

    6:35 when you’re trying to be serious about this particular form of death but your friend almost laughs out loud so you laugh as well and try to describe this form of death in a funnier manner because you know deep down that it’s funny until you realize your friend has already returned to being serious about this form of death and is no longer laughing so you return to act like you’re being serious about this form of death

  • @user-bm9cv9vn2k
    @user-bm9cv9vn2k3 жыл бұрын

    Chucky, Morphy, Capablanca, Anand, Big Vlad, Hikaru, Agad rank is what I was excited. Magnus Bobby obvious.

  • @armyguy196

    @armyguy196

    3 жыл бұрын

    It should have been obvious but Magnus was underrated.

  • @zacharyperez2427
    @zacharyperez24273 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised Ruy Lopez isn't in this discussion, he's an OG of chess theory

  • @rarestcoyne6005
    @rarestcoyne60052 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru you should clip the part that you guys talk about the immortal game. I learned so much from what you said. Its the first game I know by heart now lol

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