Hikaru: Can remember random games against GMs from 2004 Also Hikaru: Forgets the difference between Scholar's Mate and Fool's Mate

@ME0WMERE

2 жыл бұрын

to be fair he would literally never see it at his level

@Disfuguredbatman

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@thenewlbj

Жыл бұрын

i only remember like 10 openings

@thelightknight4772

Жыл бұрын

D4 D5 BG4 E6 KnG3

@Opanker_

Жыл бұрын

@@ME0WMERE It's literally never seen in any level, unless it's like some kids making random pawn moves

Imagine knowing any of these openings. This post made by the 500 gang

@e-man1916

3 жыл бұрын

e4 d4 gang 👊😎

@falsealarm747

3 жыл бұрын

four knights gang

@xa-1274

3 жыл бұрын

I’m mad that the queens gambit and the morphy defense weren’t included. My 2 fav openings

@alexander9601

3 жыл бұрын

@catz64 The 4 knights opening is when you and your opponent develop your knights to c3, f3 and c6, f6 in the opening

@user-sw3ro6hh3j

3 жыл бұрын

you have to learn openings and games to climb that's just how chess is played

At GM level the bongcloud is legendary...

@sollertia_

3 жыл бұрын

Because you will hear of it but never see it in real life with your own eyes

@republikadugave420

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine a double bongcloud

@DivinePlant

3 жыл бұрын

Somebody in chat “A King must lead” 😂

@quehinyfunu1218

3 жыл бұрын

You don't see it at the top level because they are too afraid to play such a legendary opening

@GukGukNinja

3 жыл бұрын

@@DivinePlant “If the king doesn't move, then his subjects won't follow.”

Hikaru is basically like: Levy, what's your opinion on this opening? Levy: Well.. I think it should go here... Hikaru: Ding dong your opinion is wrong.

@aziznblues19

3 жыл бұрын

hahahahah

@infinitea6179

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah man I feel bad for him

@heroricspiritfreinen38

3 жыл бұрын

This whole video was just levy conforming to hikaru's opinions. Kinda sad

@kaitoti21

3 жыл бұрын

Really? Skipping the video then, better if he just did it himself

@luanly1989

3 жыл бұрын

@@heroricspiritfreinen38 Well it is suppose to be just Hikaru's list. He had Levy join him for banter. Since the list is for GM it would be weird if an IM's opinion would outweighs a GM's opinion.

>splits up the Caro-Kann into multiple variants >ends up putting all of them right next to each other in the same tier.

@MagpieR6

Жыл бұрын

they had even more variants in the beginner video and they werent all together

Timestamps for each opening; 1. Advanced Dragon - 0:15 2. Advanced Caro Kann - 4:15 3. Advanced French - 6:49 4. Alapin Sicilian - 9:09 5. Alekhine's Defense - 11:15 6. Benoni - 13:12 7. Berlin Defense - 15:41 8. Bongcloud - 17:38 9. Budapest Gambit - 19:08 10. Caro Kann - 20:51 11. Catalan - 22:26 12. Closed Sicilian - 24:28 13. Danish Gambit - 26:22 14. Dutch Defense - 28:19 15. English - 30:42 16. Exchange Caro Kann - 32:35 17. Exchange French - 34:21 18. Fools Mate - 35:47 19. Fred - 37:40 20. Four Knight's Italian Game - 38:53 21. French Defense - 41:21

@Tarnbar

3 жыл бұрын

where can I find part 2? Iwant to see them shit on my beloved Kings Gambit

@Gloriath1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tarnbar same :D

@shazbots

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this

@ginoldjohn1096

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the timestamp

@oldgods914

3 жыл бұрын

Bro thankyou

"We are talking GM level" Random guy in chat: "I play Catalan and never get beaten so it's unbreakable at least"

@heroricspiritfreinen38

3 жыл бұрын

Also Levy isn't even a GM

@RetsamX

3 жыл бұрын

@@heroricspiritfreinen38 Well but Levy has studied a lot of GM games and has a lot of theory knowledge. He just can't play like a GM. He's like me, I have knowledge of a 1400 and play like a 1000 😂

@heroricspiritfreinen38

3 жыл бұрын

@@RetsamX studying GM games and being a GM are world's apart

@RetsamX

3 жыл бұрын

@@heroricspiritfreinen38 Which I didn't dispute if you read my comments.

@infinitea6179

3 жыл бұрын

Rubber and Gum the best coaches aren’t gms just like Hikaru explained, there’s a difference between being able to make a good move and actually being able to explain why it’s a good move to someone else

levy: yeah i feel like you don't really see this move that often hikaru: actually, ian nepomniachtchi played this against alexander grischuk on august 12, 2019 at 6:54 pm UTC and won, also magnus carlsen played it back in 2013, also ivanchuk played it once, so....

@matthewkaley9311

3 жыл бұрын

So yeah basically

@matthewkaley9311

3 жыл бұрын

Obviously

@aymansakib3225

3 жыл бұрын

right chat?

@zZz-uq2vr

3 жыл бұрын

yeah yeah so basicly

@nitrozeus951

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, obviously, indeed indeed

Why is Bongcloud so low on the tierlist it deserves to be higher

@leightonvanderesch277

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously. I'm disappointed

"it's important to encourage people play solid chess" *puts bouncloud on legendary*

@6500s1

3 жыл бұрын

at least they mentioned going for draw is pathetic and crime against chess, sadly they didn't mention Giri in the same sentence.

@heroricspiritfreinen38

3 жыл бұрын

@@6500s1 pathetic joke

@rishabhsrivastava6960

3 жыл бұрын

@@6500s1 lol chess is a game which has the highest probablity of draw. He is a grandmaster but not everything he says is true. Hikaru likes to play chess some people like to win the tournament its the difference in mindset

@6500s1

3 жыл бұрын

@@heroricspiritfreinen38 it's not even a joke, and what's pathetic is Giri qualifying to the Candidates by avoiding tournament play to preserve rating. That is literally pathetic.

@keigo2257

3 жыл бұрын

The bongcloud is as solid as it gets

There should be an Evan's gambit with Agadmator's face on it

@amuricuh6143

3 жыл бұрын

Should be pirate, since it was after a sea captain

@artsenor254

3 жыл бұрын

And a Nakhmanson gambit with Jon Schrantz'.

@sneamer1282

3 жыл бұрын

Morphy face would be better

@lastraven7205

3 жыл бұрын

where's Evans gambit on this list?

@omnitroph1501

3 жыл бұрын

@Kyle Riel Because he is very good at chess.

Actually IMO Fool's Mate needs indeed to be above Exchange French. Fool's Mate can be used to protest or have short lived fun. Exchange French just says "I hate the game of chess, I hate fun, I don't know why I am here."

I’m disappointed he didn’t review the Jerome gambit. Everyone knows it is legendary

@nav5738

3 жыл бұрын

Jerome is love Jerome is life

@finger1079

3 жыл бұрын

they did review, they agreed it was the worst opening

@WookieMiner1

3 жыл бұрын

It's all on twitch.tv mate GMHikaru It got low tier garbage

@itsthewiggles739

3 жыл бұрын

it says part 1 in the thumbnail, i’m sure part 2 will be uploaded tomorrow

@lawrencewang9790

3 жыл бұрын

Fred is legendary

Levy: "you wont see the bongcloud at the gm level unless they are paid off..." Also Levy: "Magnus and Hikaru Double Bongcloud!!! Making history!"

@foxson7197

Жыл бұрын

It’s at super gm level ,not gm level Verryyyy diffffferenttttt

Bongcloud deserves a tier of its own: unbreakable garbage!

@burrri

3 жыл бұрын

Legendary garbage 🗑️

Thanks for making this video. I had been stuck at around 2200 rating for a long time and I did not know how improve. I now realise that there was openings that I should have known, that I never relay thought about. Learning about the bongcloud and the importance of early king development have helped me become a better chess player.

Little did they know, Hikaru would go on to play the bong cloud for a draw against Magnus Carlsen and Levy would play the hippo against a grandmaster.

@RGC_animation

Жыл бұрын

They invented a new opening called the Double Bongcloud.

Inevansitably there might be an opening missing from this list that you didn't consider b4

@beattheovenludwigvan

3 жыл бұрын

aahahahahhhha

@niccosthoughts3798

3 жыл бұрын

No Evan's gambit... unbelievable

@rowanz74

3 жыл бұрын

When Father Agad sees this mockery, this injustice, this disrespect, he shall first say "hello everyone" and then descend on Hikaru from above, frothing at the mouth with rage and ready to sacrifice not just his nice sip of water but also the entire glass, which will smash on Hikaru's head with a faint echo, because agad didn't say "sorry about that". And then he will teach Hikaru how to pronounce agadmator, goddamnit!

@thatoneguy9582

3 жыл бұрын

No I’m pretty sure he put the Polish Opening there unless I’m actually an idiot and that’s not it

@thatoneguy9582

3 жыл бұрын

principal Cookie oh wait yeah I’m fucking stupid I thought he meant 1. b4

"We'll be evaluating these purely from GM perspective" Next minute: "The fact that forsen lost using this opening"

@rowanz74

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY

@dumbbellenjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

In his GM level opinion, the fact that a decent player like forsen lost to Nymn, arguably a worse player, defines it as a really really shit opening.

There's one opening that no one will understand The Barnes defense

@SumNutOnU2b

3 жыл бұрын

It is an insult to the legendary Mr Barnes that any opening should be called the Barnes _Defense_. The man did not _defend,_ he only attacked.

@tyvamakes5226

3 жыл бұрын

@@SumNutOnU2b "The best defense is a good offense"

@meermeer6882

3 жыл бұрын

**F4**

Someone in the chat said GM Groupchat which makes me think there is a secret messaging group full of GMs just sharing cool games, chess theory, chess memes, and dissing each other.

@starboiklem8381

3 жыл бұрын

I heard they removed Magnus from the group chat because he kept saying too weak too slow

@PeterSodhi

3 жыл бұрын

They are much more secretive on ideas to than people would think

@amuricuh6143

3 жыл бұрын

There is

@Cnut_the_grape

3 жыл бұрын

"I was playing chess with your sister last night, she got mated"

@stonecraftbros2977

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cnut_the_grape " She put up a good fight, but I managed to penetrate at last"

36:16 you'd think hikaru would know scholar's mate by now especially after xqc

@sahilrizvi6583

3 жыл бұрын

Whats your rating on chess.com?

@jotarokujo1317

3 жыл бұрын

@@sahilrizvi6583 2

I love the content, it’s also incredibly informative. Can’t thank you enough for posting these Hikaru

Hikaru is kinda disrespectful to Levy, and his knowledge of chess. I feel like Hikaru’s the type of guy people wanna befriend, but then his personality bleeds through and forces people to retract.

@ibrahimvelioski1526

2 ай бұрын

I noticed that too

no way the video stops right before the fried liver

@Danarcis

3 жыл бұрын

The stream crashed

@niveshproag3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@Danarcis so we won't get the rest?

@kozy2170

3 жыл бұрын

Danarcis damn ty

@GMHikaru

3 жыл бұрын

Parts 2 and 3 posting soon - it was too long otherwise

@kozy2170

3 жыл бұрын

thanks haiku lovin the content❤️

"Catalan is great!" "I put it in garbage" "...oh..."

12:03 how tf does he remember what opening he played and against who from a match 16 years ago wtff

@dumbbellenjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine you study a textbook a tonne so you remember formula and such. Thats how chess players learn, a single pro game is a textbook. So learning it means memorizing the setup

@rickross9829

3 жыл бұрын

Your memory regarding something you are skilled at is much better than your memory in general

@rickross9829

3 жыл бұрын

@Morbid Angel is better than Death It's true they write down their moves, but this is not a good point and likely has very little to do with why Naka remembered this

@Phurngirathaana

3 жыл бұрын

Really bro? Any decent 2000 player would remember memorable games he's played especially if it's not a common opening

@yuristremel

3 жыл бұрын

The more you study a subject, the more your memory absorbs that subject. Nakamura studied chess his whole life with great concentration and that's the result, but you can have a memory like that on any field that you study

Hikaru: "If you're trying to draw with white, you're doing something wrong." Also Hikaru: Intentionally opens for a draw with white vs Carlsen many times in a row.

@weitao100

3 жыл бұрын

its because during the champiaoship, Carlsen needs to get a win in order to win. Thats why everyone is trying to get draw against the champion of a certain mode because you get a win if you draw against the current champion of that mode

@Mana_Thief

3 жыл бұрын

@@weitao100 So you understand the irony, right?

@victorkaranja2837

3 жыл бұрын

Those are rules for mortals, aliens don't follow these rules.

WHERE IS EVAN'S GAMBIT

Missed the Albin counter gambit but I expect it’d be in tricks only anyways, seen IMs play it but I think Morezevich was the only GM to use it regularly.

Missed the stream yesterday, so glad it's on KZread ♥️

I think that one of the most impressive things about Mr. Nakamura, is not only his superb playing of chess, but his ability to remember specific games from various years. A truly outstanding memory.

I cant even remember the game I played like 5 minutes ago and this guy just prays to his ceiling and memorize game from 16 years ago.

A GM that streams, makes tier lists and uses clickbait thumbnails. I love it. What a time to be alive.

@christophercaron3042

3 жыл бұрын

Not just a GM, but a world class player 🤣

amazing content! just learning openings properly now. this is so fun

Another nice thing about the bong cloud is that it improves the morale of the other pieces.

Dude, the bongcloud section hahahaha, I'm still laughing....

I'm disappointed there is no Bong Cloud tier.

@4545guillermaso

3 жыл бұрын

It's banned in tournaments, that's probably why.

@12jswilson

3 жыл бұрын

You see the "Legendary" category, right?

@TheArcher143

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewhatfield2859 Looks like you missed the joke.

@4545guillermaso

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewhatfield2859 Have you ever seen it in a GM tournament? That's because it's banned.

Hey what happened to all the other ones? I was so excited to see the Queen‘s Gambit, Ruy Lopez and Reti opening which were the first three I started learning once I began playing. Such a great video, so insane the internet allows us these insights for free

Hikaru: you play the French, you're just playing for a draw, it's bad. Me a French defense player: ... Understandable. Have a nice day. *Cries*

@ssvpavlos

3 жыл бұрын

but he didn't say that about the french he said that about the exchange variation (wich white chooses to play not black)

@GuillaumeT96

Жыл бұрын

I use French and Dutch, I've been really bro'ed

GMs tier list next?

@SonoftheBread

3 жыл бұрын

@@joedorben3504 fax no printer

@sneamer1282

3 жыл бұрын

GM players from the past would be fun

The Bongcloud makes sense in the "King of the Hill" variation.

I love how this has such good serious commentary, but at the same time dips so far into meme.

Thank you. This will inform my opening repertoire on the way to PM, Pepega Master

Why does Hikaru talk to young Trotsky?

@DemisedDill

3 жыл бұрын

Holy fuck he does look like Trotsky

@dr.corneliusq.cadbury6984

3 жыл бұрын

Ha. They forgot to rank the Bolshevik.

bongcloud, jerome, fred, tennison ICBM and the grob are all GOAT status level strats that are in their own stratosphere of understanding

One of my favorite chess videos, thanks!

This is the content I've been waiting for

"I think this is tricks only" Hikaru: "I'm sorry what??!"

I can't wait to see Hikaru beat magnus with the bong cloud

So many openings missing but its understandable since you would need to do a waay longer video to cover all of them. Would love to see where you rank other GM openings like the Nimzo,QID, semi-slav, QGD, tarrasch Defense, other variants of the sicilian like the Taimanov, Vienna Gane and Gambits like the Benko or Evans.

@ym276

3 жыл бұрын

There are far too many variations to cover them all

Please post the second part, sooo stoked!!!

*Me, slowly nodding my head, having no idea what any of this means*: "Ah ha, yeah, that makes sense."

The picture for the Advanced French should be -wait for it- the Quebecois flag. 😂

I love how the image for Najdorf is Kasparov with a smug face

Advance bongcloud Cagnus Marlson variation ends with the queen checkmating the king and making a prince that can teleport to any square twice per turn.

That sigh when Levy says the Bongcloud is "second to the Berlin" like he couldn't even believe he was saying it lol

Heartbreaking to see Hikaru doesn't give attention to the details like the name of Géza Maróczy.

Yo, waiting for part 2 much love

I just love the Reti opening. The idea of my knight on the right moving first 😁

Fools mate should be legendary, it’s ICONIC

@xsie_xsie

3 жыл бұрын

how so?

@ExplicitNebula

3 жыл бұрын

Iconic at grandmaster level?

@MrAceClutch

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a joke lol

@xsie_xsie

3 жыл бұрын

LUL

There was a GM that told carlsen the Bird Opening was garbage Carlsen then beat him with the bird opening. Nakamura be careful.

@luckyjc8702

3 жыл бұрын

Beating someone weaker than you with a bad opening doesn't prove that the opening is good though

@phen-themoogle7651

3 жыл бұрын

Lucky J C good point, I’ve done 8 knight shuffles in a row and still beat some players. And I made an account called knightshuffler on lichess that at one point made it to 2000+ where I’m only doing knight shuffles for my openings , I do at least 2 usually. But when I felt like I could survive against anyone and tried this against Stockfish I got crushed in like 10 moves lmao 😂 humans can play anything against other humans sometimes depending on time control but against the best engines bad openings are really really bad.

This is the first time i take any knowledge of chess theory And I learned that the opening i taught myself is called the berlin defense, i really love it as my go to playstyle

Just coming back to appreciate the fact that why the Bong Cloud is legendary based on the 2020 st louis chess tournament.

Liked how Hikaru and Levy talked so professionally on how Bongcloud deserved to be in the Legendary tierlist...

I love how Hikaru lost against Magnus with White in the Alekhine’s Defense 😂😂

@jeremy1909

3 жыл бұрын

Magnus beat wesley so with the bong clouds At the gm level opening seems less relevant

One of my subs really loves your thumbnails

wish the rest of this had been posted somewhere. was super interested in it.

1:20 Actually, it's a GéZa Maróczy... GiGa is for the Giga Moravatz

Alekhine: beeing grandmaster and top1 for few years Hikaru: Alekhine's defence garbage LUL Pepega FeelsBadMan R.I.P. Alekhine, I will continue your will by beating Hikaru once with your defence.

Hikaru on point with the content, I love it man.

What kind of memory does a man got to have to not only remember all these openings but also remember specific instances where you used them yourselves?? I'm just quite impressed

26:54 Hi, twitch chat.

So you put the Portuguese Gambit, King's Gambit, Smith Morra, Sodium Attack, Benoni, Dragon, Ponziani, etc but no Benko, Evans Gambit, Semi Slav, or Two Knights Defense? And why not Halloween Gambit if you're gonna put meme ones like the Bongcloud, Jerome, etc?

@Coldactill64

3 жыл бұрын

In Hikaru's defense it's probably because he doesn't care about your opinion

@dumbbellenjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

Bongcloud is legit legendary. Anyone who uses it in a pro game will be famous

@duck8712

3 жыл бұрын

there's only so many hours in a day

You're very inspiring! Thanks!

always make such videos. it really teaches a lot

Google is savage. It placed this in my recommended videos right after Carlsen beat Naka in their Game 1 of the blitz portion of Day 4 (Carlsen Chess Tour Finals) using Alekhine's defence :) Spoiler: Naka says Alekhine's defence is garbage. P.S. I know Naka won the match in Armageddon but he still lost to Magnus playing the Alekhine :)

Favorite openings by computer engines would be a dope idea!

@GreyeHazel

3 жыл бұрын

King's Indian gang

@threebees7785

3 жыл бұрын

how would they know about them tho

@northzealand

3 жыл бұрын

D4

well two of my favorite chess players in one video discussing the best openings, awesome!

LOL. The thumbnail photo for the Scandinavian is epic.

Hahahahahaha imagine the first person to play against the bongcloud

So, Is the tier from the perspective of white or black ?

The Bongcloud was so refreshing! I needed that 😃

bro i gotta change my opening now everyones going to be playing c4 on my accelerated dragon thanks hikaru

where is the rest? why did u stop?

@mare4135

3 жыл бұрын

Part 1 my man

@meenasamaan481

3 жыл бұрын

@@mare4135 it didnt say part 1 in the title or in the description

@cupass6179

3 жыл бұрын

@@meenasamaan481 it says it in the thumbnail

@laawlduuud3588

3 жыл бұрын

PepegaBlind wr

@lusi3851

3 жыл бұрын

There are thousands of openings I don't think they're gonna rank all of them

You can tell how much the chat lags by measuring the time between Hikaru flexes, and the massive amounts of WeirdChamps in the chat.

The variety in content for an ancient game like chess that Hikaru comes up is poggers

Throwback to when I started chess a year ago and couldn’t figure out which of the openings were for white or black😅

Queens Gambit not being a legendary opening was the only thing disappointing in the opening tier list.

@joedorben3504

3 жыл бұрын

Why would it be a legendary opening lmao it's so drawish and mediocre at the top level. QGD on the other hand is for sure legendary for black.

@cynidhino9414

3 жыл бұрын

@@joedorben3504 Its drawish cuz there is a lot of closed play which involves skill, and at least you don't lose and can have a shot against a higher rated player who would spank you in an open game.

@joedorben3504

3 жыл бұрын

@@cynidhino9414 it takes *skill* yet it allows you not to lose against higher rated, and undoubtedly more *skilled* opponents? what kind of logic is that? black can definitely open the game up against queens gambit if he wants.

@cynidhino9414

3 жыл бұрын

@@joedorben3504 Yes, bcuz at average level even higher rated opponents don't have the skill to play closed systems.

@joedorben3504

3 жыл бұрын

@@cynidhino9414 but theyll still stomp you. dont play the queens gambit just bc you're afraid of losing if you play a better opening lmao

Every time I face a Benoni I actually say aloud : "really bro.. Really?............ A benoni?" So I'm glad it wasn't in a higher tier :P Fits with my understanding of chess.

GM players from the past tier list would be fun to see

I quite literally spat out my coffee in surprise when i saw bongcloud at the top in the thumbnail

Spoiler: Ends with 34 openings left to rate. Part 2 incoming?

@sneamer1282

3 жыл бұрын

It literally says "part 1" in the thumbnail of the video

@cacheman

3 жыл бұрын

@@sneamer1282 Spoiler: Thumbnails can be updated at any time.

Hot take, Hikaru is a narcissistic egomaniac.

I'm trying to learn more from my base. Started with Center game and then Queens gambit on white..and stuck to slav on black. Now I'm trying to branch out especially on defense.

Need more gambits! Evans Gambit. Albin counter gambit. Chigorin defense. Kings gambit. Birds opening (and From gambit). All interesting at the club level!

Levy talking about the GM level when he's an IM lmao

Just started new chess channel! You are great streamer and your collaboration promotes chess! Good work! 😁

Great video idea guys. Nice

the pirc defence is great if you know what your doing however if you don’t know what to do then your going to lose however there are so many opportunities to beat your opponent