Glue Tests - Foam Bones Van Build System Vol. 2
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Volume 2 of the Complete "Foam Bones" Camper Van Building System. Testing XPS foam glues for sheer strength and screw anchor pull out force. For use in self built Ford Transit for full time van life with foam core structure for ultra light and highly insulated van build.
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Thanks man. You literally save so many people from wasting time and money with these tests. We appreciate all you've done.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@r8edrv4fun65
Жыл бұрын
That's what I was going to say!! 😊
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@justinantonich1541
9 ай бұрын
@@falkornomadthanks for showing us why and how. Not just saying use this. Great research brother!
@davidfuller764
8 ай бұрын
Yes!
Forget building a van with this, I'm buliding my house like this.
@bill4639
2 ай бұрын
Use foam board with wire mesh and grout for home building. Pull wires through the foam board to tie the mesh to both sides of the foam board. Use great stuff spray foam to glue your joints together. Use any cementitious mixture to coat the wire lath to make a house. Use foam backed corrugated metal panels for the roof. It will not comply with local building codes because the government does not want you to escape their system.
@darylblack196
2 ай бұрын
Fire?
Men built the world And discover the principles of investment...... You are a perfect example of the builders.
I personally prefer high quality authentic content regardless of length.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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You have saved a builder, I'll bet close to 100 hours of testing with the glue and screw anchor styles, thanks.
Thank you for making this series. There is So Much Value in moving from anecdotes about products and methods to actual testing and results!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure 👍🏽
@bill4639
2 ай бұрын
Use GREAT STUFF spray foam to bond foam board.
Hey man, I appreciate the work you put into these videos, but I do have a few tips from my own testing on a similar project: 1- a larger sample size would improve the accuracy of the results, i.e. 2 or 3 tests of each glue/insert combination. 2- I recommend trying great stuff expanding foam! They also have a great stuff "construction adhesive" that applies with a foam gun and bonds as well or better than gorilla caulk adhesive! Also far less messy than the canned foam, and cuts with a hot knife blade far easier. 3- a Stanley "surfform" rasp/plane works amazingly well for shaving foam to shape (it's what they use to make surfboards), though dusty. 4- buy some Bosch "soft material" jigsaw blades! They have a wavy looking knife edge, model T313AW, that I've grown to prefer over anything else since they're not as dusty as a utility knife, cleaner cut than a circular saw, and no fumes like a hot knife! Thanks again for the work you put into these videos, it inspired me to tackle the biggest project of my life, a tiny home made entirely out of foam, and likely inspired countless others. I eventually plan on making plans/blueprints for others to follow, and instructional videos as well. None of this would have happened without you, so thanks again for putting this information out in the world. Peace and love!
@alexvaughan205
Жыл бұрын
One more thing, I've had great luck painting the fiberglass screen material on a whole 4x8 sheet, then cutting to shape with the jigsaw. It takes more planning to not waste material, but if you have the dimensions down ahead of time and shave to adjust fit with the surfform, its a HUGE timesaver. Then I puzzle-piece them together like you, and glue with great stuff foam and drywall screws to hold while it dries.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Great tips and SO great to hear I inspired you and gave you info to tackle such a big project!! That’s the main reason I made these videos to start with! It means a great deal to me to hear stories like this! Would love to see your project!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Rad, good idea!
@alexvaughan205
Жыл бұрын
@@falkornomad I will definitely cite you as inspiration when I get around to making a video! Trying to finish in time for Burning Man this year. One question, do you sand or otherwise prepare the shiny, slick surface or the foam before painting? I've found it improves adhesion, but sanding dramatically increases labor time, and I was wondering if you found a faster way. I also heard rubbing alcohol dissolves the "skin" but haven't tried it yet.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
I have been asked this previously and I have not noticed a shiny side… it was described to me a a physical coating that could be peeled off? Maybe the newer xps has this on it?? I have never treated the foam prior to glue or screening at all. That said, either way maybe a test is in order glue two shiny sides together and two sanded sides and see what you get. Let me know. Next time I’m in a hardware store I’ll see if it’s something new. Is it on both sides or just the side with the black printing on it?
I'm finding this so ridiculously interesting! I'm nearly done with my build and I wish I had learned about this sooner. Thanks for showing us these tests, it must have taken a lot of time & expense to find the best one.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
There’s always the next build 😜 You’re welcome, actually the testing was not much work… the editing and narration is the most work!
♥the "project farm" style tests! I was glued to my screen for 27 minutes - SOLID. I will watch whatever length video you post. don't care about yt algorithms.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! I try not to care about YT algorithms… but in an effort to get the info out to more viewers I’m realizing I have to. I prefer watching longer videos if it’s something I really want to know about, however it is easier to produce shorter videos. And since I never know how good my internet connection will be, uploading smaller videos is MUCH easier.
I like the scientific approach you take to testing different properties of materials.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍🏽
It's worth knowing that poyurethane glues (gorilla glue original at least in this case) set with moisture. They can get that from the material or the air. XPS is very waterproof so moisture will not move out of the material. The glue foam itself is not waterproof so setting occurs through the material if it can't can moisture by any other route. Spraying the material so it is damp before glue application is generally a good idea when using polurathane glues on non-porous substrates. A lot of glues are strongly affected by whether the substrate is porous or not. Any glue that needs air/water to set and can't get it due to glueing two air/water-tight surfaces will not work well in that application. It's also true that the best glues are not these things with consumer-friendly names - they tend to be aimed at industry rather than DIY, and have 4-digit names, like bostik 2402, which is the best glue for neoprene. I don't actually know what's best for XPS. As you've found, a polurethane foam adhesive is pretty good. I would try a modified silane adhesive too (also moisture-setting) - which might have been what the construction adhesive you used was - sadly I am not familiar with the US brands you tested. e.g. Bostik P325 is a 2-part polyurethane adhesive designed for glueing frames to XPS which might be interesting to test.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks… I realized that later and definitely should have done that for these tests and my build!
You have really good intentions when it comes to teaching others about what you have come across. Good ideas.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate that you get that vibe… it’s true I do have good intentions
Your ideas, methods, research is off the chain impressive! I'll watch what ever length video you chose. I'm just so thankful, impressed!! I had been thinking about using this insulation board but you bumped it up many levels! I love your brain!!!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! I like my 🧠 too… but I don’t have anything to compare it to I guess 😉
You really got into this with a passion. Like I said I got a lot of studying to do but nice of you to act like Clift notes on the subject. Still have beers for you both and a parking space a mile from a dump station.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Thank you for the thorough ,informative ,no bullshit results. You come off as an intelligent ,interesting ,and show just how much baloney we eat each day while staring at the screen.I am a retired building trades guy from the city of Boston so I believe I can pick up on the real deal
@falkornomad
9 ай бұрын
Thanks, that’s a nice compliment and I appreciate you taking the time to write it!
I was amazed at the pull-out Strength of the anchors. Excellent info, thanks.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
Thanks for your very detailed comparison of glueing and screwing foam boards inspires me for this material selection for a light weight bicycle trailor with good thermal insulation!
@falkornomad
11 ай бұрын
It would be great for that!!
As interesting as the first vol. was, I felt like I was watching a movie. It kept getting better and more intense as the 2nd vol. progressed. Brilliance in what you've done so far, peppered with humor. I'm binge watching here. What's next? Gotta go see!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Binge Away! Don’t miss the StarWars interludes on the Electrical playlist!
Awesome work! Thank you for sharing! I watched every minute, and I'm sure others did too. Very informative on what to do, and not to do. I feel like using the screened panels would make it even stronger!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
True, adding screen would make the pull out strength higher… if you added canvas even higher… add 1/8” ply even more, etc.
Awsome vids, that I can watch the whole way through without losing interest, or calling BS is a big thumbs up from me. ps. ❤️your Transporter shirt.
Thank you. Your information is rather helpful.
This is the best video I've watched in, what, months? Years? I used to dabble in laminated cardboard projects, but looking back, foam would work better for most of them. I am fully onboard with Gorilla Glue and have been since 1972 (before Gorilla Glue came on the market). The aerospace engineering department at my school built a homebuilt aircraft and the wing ribs were glued with PU glue. If I'm not too late to suggest one more glue to test, that would be E6000 used by hobbiests everywhere.\ Also the method you use to curve the foam is called kerfing.
This is a great series of videos. Thanks for doing the investigative work for the rest of us.
interesting, i started making a vardo wagon, this makes me want to change the design
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Lots of potential imo, but, to be fair I’m only 5 years into the prototype and 7mo into the full Transit build… so still “experimental”
Hi, great video’s. I like your down to earth style :). I got some experience with xps as a model-maker and we use 2component PU glue out of a ‘mixing-gun’ (maybe you know it already). It is an expensive glue but will perform similar to the expanded gorilla glue (i believe it is also PU glue, we have other name brands in EU). The advantage, for me, is that the 2-comp glue sets in one minute. So sometimes it is handy for build moments when there is no efficient way to support xps panels while drying. Like construction on the ceiling for example. Also, my dad used expanding foam in camper builds along with lightweight panels in the beginning of the 80’s. He got a bit carried away with the amount of foam :). But now, over time, these campers have rusty undersides and need to be welded. So we get burning foam. Very problematic. When i’m building my next van i’ll be using your great tips and tricks, but i’ll add some removable parts so i can weld safely (especially old VW vans ;) )
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
I know of 2part PU glues… gorilla original is a PU… I was looking to use easy to find, cheap and easy to use materials to make this method more accessible to diy builders. I think the consecutive is under utilized in diy builds. Good idea about removable… I had a modular concept for my prototype build in my VW van. 👍🏽
Just saw both videos on this. Thank you very much. You just saved me time and, most importantly, MONEY! I always wondered about ridged insulation in construction like this, so again thank you. 👍🍻
@falkornomad
8 ай бұрын
my pleasure... there are many videos on the channel about this build system and more to come.
You have amazing research and teaching talents.
Thank you for making the time and sharing all of it!
👍 Nice job, Project Farm would be proud! You will definitely get more views with 20ish minute videos even if it means splitting a long one into 2 or more videos and releasing them even a day apart, just how it is.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
That’s the new strategy… weekly sub 20min
Great demonstration on Anchors Glue Test And Strength . Great video on Explaining Everything in Detail. Thks for Sharing. Very Interesting !!!!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! More to come!
Your videos are great, thank you for being so in-depth with the testing. This will safe me time and effort in building mine square drop trailer.
I keep coming back to watch your videos. So good.
I'd suggest applying a thin film of glue over the entire mating surfaces of both pieces before putting them together. If you make thin coats, there won't be any movement between the two surfaces. Making the bond stronger. Believe it or not. Less is more. You'll get the strongest bond from the thinnest coats. As long as you mate the two surfaces before the glue starts to dry.
Thank you for doing all this work for us!
Hey man, Just to let you know, I really like the long videos, and like super detailed stuff. So if you want to put out these nice long 40+ minute videos like this, by all means, I'm ALL for it!!! I'm watching all the way through, saving, liking, forwarding and suggesting, the whole 9 yards. Or, the whole X meters, depending on who's reading from where!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I too prefer longer content for the DIY stuff. But honestly, producing them takes FOREVER and YT seems to prefer I do shorter more often rather than longer less often. My goal is to see it reach as many people as possibe (not satisfy the algorithm). But I clearly don’t know what I’m doing because the 50min video just exploded and the algorithm loves it… it’s all a mystery to me, lol Thanks for the feedback and for sharing!!
@redfonzie21
Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. I am trying to consider how to do a build in one of my two 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan minivans. What are you using for blocking out the light in the windows and windshield? I've been using those mylar solar silver "emergency blankets" in my house and they do well for reflecting A LOT of the visible and I think invisible heat spectrum back out. But they're not ideal for privacy entirely.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
I actually took a short cut on those at the last minute… I had intentions of doing more with them but they are just reflectix cut to the shape… I left then a little tall for the door windows and close them in the doors. When not in use they go in the bed or in the dog bed depending on where the dogs are riding that day 🤷🏽♂️
Thank you so much for your amazing efforts on sharing this information!
Great job. Appreciate the work you put into these videos.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Some suggestions regarding glue application: Polyurethane is activated with moisture (Humidity). The other adhesives need the volatile solvents evaporated, so it helps to use a mastic spreader with fine notches to avoid excessive drying time. All of them should have pressure applied during the cure. Nice video Sir!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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@mv80401
10 ай бұрын
That's what I thought re Polyurethane glue. So perhaps spraying a water mist into the hole might improve expansion like it does with GreatStuff etc. With Greatstuff you can actually see how much misting helps when you compare areas that got misted vs not. In this case a perfume mister would be ideal@@falkornomad
Amazing thank you for putting these videos out 💖
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Great testing! Your extra time and work saves everyone else a lot of hassle and money! Awesome job!
Thanks! You were right here when I needed the information, and you presented it very well!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Thank you again! So thankful for these volumes of expertise!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
Extremely helpful content and nice delivery. Very thorough process. You rock. Thanks.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Great videos! Love your approach.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Great info and ideas here, thanks for posting this!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure
Awesome work. Thanks for your analysis on this!!
@falkornomad
9 ай бұрын
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Love your test. Great job!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Thank you for the great work I had already been investigating using phone but you now have made me totally confident that this is a great message good work
Dude!! That's some well done informational stats!! Thank you!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😉👍
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I’m really loving this series. Can’t wait to try these methods if/when my van shows up
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! When & if? Tell me more!
Thankyou. Liked subscribed. You rock 👍
Very helpful for my foam build. Thanks!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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What a great alternative to wood! Thanks for the deep dive education!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome 👍🏽
Great Tests!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Luv the details..
Awesome! Stumbled upon one video, love it. Love the concept, the creative overcoming of obstacles and when it's not necessary to go overboard tips. Keep it up. Enjoyable to watch and learn
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Thanks for all that research and development. Great test.
@falkornomad
11 ай бұрын
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Great info, nice job on the testing.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
That's pretty good holding power. Thank you for this informative video.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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I appreciate your testing regimen.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Is that a storm trooper avatar?!? You have to watch my electrical playlist and give me feed back on my starwars interludes!! Lol
This series is so valuable!
@falkornomad
11 ай бұрын
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Excellent content. These videos are saving me a ton of time and effort as I plan for a foamie slide-in for my truck.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Keep me posted on that… I’m thinking of doing one for my dad.
Fantastic job on the practical tests... good enough. The results speak for themselves, and I appreciate your approach. Thank you!!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure👍🏽
I love the test results videos. Thanks!
@falkornomad
10 ай бұрын
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insanely in depth. This is freaking amazing. I had no idea but I do now. Thanks brother for the great effort.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome 👍🏽
Amazing test-thank you ☺☺☺☺
Great testing. Thanks.
@falkornomad
9 ай бұрын
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Super clever and fascinating analysis. Thank you!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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These are great. I appreciate your thoroughness. I've long been an advocate in tab-and-slot design for assemblies. Keep up the good work!
Really informative video and I am impressed with the results you achieved
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Me too tbh!
Excellent testing, thank you! You just earned another sub.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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I appreciate the testing
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Great testing, super clear explanations. Really like the production quality of your videos! Video within video, clear graphics. Great job!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Love the testing and explanation...
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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If the insert is placed in the wrong spot (say it's 1/8" off where it HAS to be for a drawer slide or something) what's your preferred way of fixing the goof? Fixing, repairing, and/or modifying a "finished" foam build might be worth a video all it's own.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
That video is in the works right now. I am actually doing some fixes or changes like that right now in the van. It is more challenging for small (1/8” off) changes. If all else fails you can cut a section of the foam out and glue a new piece in. I would do this with the finger joints to get more surface area and screen over the joint / seam. If you have a failure… say the anchor pulls out and brings foam with it… you can glue that same anchor (with glue and foam) back in with the Gorilla original or Gorilla HD construction adhesive. Or you can add a new anchor in to that hole with the HD construction adhesive. The strength will not be as much but it’s still strong.
Excellent information
This is great info, and an excellent supplement to Vol. 1. Cheers!
@falkornomad
9 ай бұрын
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great info, you da man. love your creativity
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Wow, incredible amount of work, and comprehensive analysis, for this video, Kudos!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
This is amazing! Thank you for doing that 😮
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Love your information videos. Very helpful. So glad I found your videos
@falkornomad
9 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoy them!
man you have done a fantastic job !
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks👍🏽
amazing videos!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Excellent content, subscribed.
@falkornomad
8 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
excellent video, thank you.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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Nice testing! I'm surprised it did that well too. Thanks
The tests you do to find the best materials and methods are useful to shorten learning curves. Thank you!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
That is only true for everyone ELSE’s learning curves, lol… longer for mine… but worth it! Cheers 🍻
You really took one for the team; thanks for putting together and sharing this excellent vid.
@falkornomad
9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Your welcome!
great work as usual
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Especially for the “as usual”!!
Great job 👏 Thanks 👍
@falkornomad
9 ай бұрын
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Really interesting and useful. Thanks so much.
I am impressed with the painstaking effort you put i to showing all of us!!! THANK YOU! I'm doing it!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Good luck! Keep me posted!!
I eventually found the time to sit through your first two videos. Great work and the most thorough research and the best demonstrations I've seen on KZread. Thank you.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for finding and making the time, glad it was worth it!!!
Your videos are awesome
@falkornomad
10 ай бұрын
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Just found your channel. I love these foam builds! Keep up the great work. :)
@falkornomad
8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Welcome!!
So glad i found out about you. This will be so beneficial to apply your knowledge to my tear drop trailer that i am soon to build. I will be pulling behind my road glide. Thanks✊
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Rad, glad you found it… or… it found you… either way, welcome aboard and good luck!
Good stuff. Thank you.
@falkornomad
11 ай бұрын
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Those are some quite impressive results for foam and glue. Sure exceeded my expectations.
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
Mine too my friend, mine too!
Great job , good instructional video .
@falkornomad
8 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
that info was very useful. saves me the time and cost of testing myself. thanx!
@falkornomad
Жыл бұрын
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