As a plasterer and marine sailor for many years I have come to realize that marine materials are by far the best ones to use for exterior (read wet,moist conditions).I have used "house" materials with various results(interior only.With materials it's usually pay now or pay later.

@falkornomad

9 ай бұрын

👍🏽

@salmacuppini6772

8 ай бұрын

yes it makes good sense when you build a car you also have to think about the possibility of condensation the only plywood I use is marine because the glue used is waterproof

@sacredcowbbq1326

6 ай бұрын

@@salmacuppini6772 And this is why KZread University is so important. I didn't even know there is a marine grade plywood. Duh.

@sailingbrewer

3 ай бұрын

​@@salmacuppini6772 If it's not structural you can get away with CDX or something nicer. The key is it ends in X which is for outdoors use. Much much cheaper and easier to find

This reminds me of when a friend needed a temporary storage shed. He didn't want to spend big money on something he was only intending to use for 6 months, so he made frames for the 4 walls (One with a door) and a sloping roof from wood he had on hand, went to a fabric wholesalers and got a few end rolls of the cheapest cloth they had, stapled the cloth onto the frames as tautly as he could, then painted it with whatever coloured part tins of oil based paint he had kicking about. He screwed it down to the concrete pad next to his garage, and that was that, he had a storage shed for less than it would have cost to buy a similar sized tent. :D Most of his friends took the p*ss out of his "Technicolour dream shed", so when the initial need for it was gone, he took it back down, added a few more wooden reinforcing struts to the sides where the fabric had been able to move a bit more than he liked, added a load of slats to the roof because it had sagged, added another layer of fabric on the outside, and stuck that down with light brown oil based paint. He also took the time to use the last of the offcuts of fabric and paint to cover all the wood on the inside. This time, before screwing it back down, he concreted a layer of bricks as a base because he'd had trouble with water running underneath the side when it rained. That was about 7 or 8 years back, and the "Temporary" sheds still in use. It still looks a bit "Hillbilly", but apart from the rain running under the walls in it's first iteration, it's always been watertight. :D

@falkornomad

9 ай бұрын

Nice!

You're the only comprehensive build vid❤❤❤❤

One thing to bring up, in support of the screening idea: There's prior art that supports this technique. I first came across a similar technique when in a forum build thread, with the author was using the same XPS foam to make an smoothing aero undertray for his car. He used latex paint as a sealer, and poor-man fibreglassed with cloth, or chop strand in wood glue as his outer substrate/shell. If you're curious, web-search for "Honda Insight Under-body Smoothing Panel" and it'll turn right up as a thread on the Ecomodder forums from about 14 years ago, at this writing. 3-Wheeler, the author/fabricator, made a motorcycle cowling for a bike prior to the car undertray, and then made a tailcone fairing after using the same technique. He even followed up, showing that he did have some water intrusion and damage after all weather, year-round use on THE UNDERSIDE OF A CAR. So, variations of a theme on the foam-bones concept can stretch pretty far. I just figured you'd want to see this, if you hadn't. Maybe it'll give ideas for you, or others to experiment further for stronger structures, where strength is needed. Love this series of videos on the construction method!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, had not seen this… pre-Pink Panther Fomular 150!!! Vintage! ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/honda-insight-under-body-smoothing-panels-custom-belly-10638.html

@salmacuppini6772

8 ай бұрын

,😱you can use it under the car. I think my mechanic would look weird if I came to the garage with pink foam sheets under the car

You have no idea how inspiring you are, especially this episode.😊

Excellent video! Wood veneer over foam adds quite a bit of strength when glued to foam, but only in one direction. If anywhere, this is where you do want to use both fiberglass mesh and veneer. It prevents splitting/cracking within the weak direction of the veneer.

@sanukcanuk1282

Жыл бұрын

I think you could solve this by using thin vynal veneer though it wouldnt have the impact resistance of a wood veneer. Heck do 'em both and get the best of both worlds. Lay down the screen first then to a 5 mm veneer or sanded plywood on top.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I agree, veneer with grain oriented opposing the direction of the bend under a load would have strength. That said I think I’d still screen. I tend to overbuild as I’ve mentioned.

@chtomlin

10 ай бұрын

have you looked at a 3rd screen level in the middle? Either 2 thinner foams layered with 3 screens or even these standard foam thicknesses? I know this would not be for most applications, but where strength and screwing are imperative, this could help with special situations such as supporting bed...@@falkornomad

Thank you so much for another teaching video! It was cool seeing your wife helping .

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

She has a video coming up soon.

Where's my beer! Haha. Great video!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great series. The tip for skinning the top of garage or any box support is nice for beginners or non carpenter. Essentially creating a header support rather than just floating that piece in. And of course thanks and all the stuff I said before.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Yeah… it’s hard sometimes to know what skill level and vocabulary the audience has… some things that seem obvious to me (not technically a carpenter, but lots of tinkering experience) may be mind blowing to someone with less experience… and at the same time annoying to listen to for someone with more knowledge/ skill than I have… “yeah! It’s a header bro, we get it move on” lol

I save your first video 2 years ago when u make the first cabinet....today I save all your video Because is the most light and cheap and strong way to build any "campers project " ever see. ❤👍

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

👍🏽

I am thinking of building a small foam camping trailer, and this video has given me some new ideas and opened my eyes a little further. A durable, long life camper is my #1 priority, weight #2, and aesthetics #3, but still very important. Thanks much for the ideas and the effort.

@Itried20takennames

3 ай бұрын

Good.u k with your plans!

Potatoes.. (there something to roast..) i have zero reasion to watch your videos becieds just liking you and your easy going nature.. Safe travles. Cheers. J

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jason, glad I can provide some value even if my topics are 😴

Where's my Beer?! I watched all of your 5 volume foam series and really like your approach that welcomes doable, creative non-proscriptive approaches. Thank you for making it look like even I can do this!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

The order of panel installation is correct for extra strength. Your videos have been very helpful.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Glad it at least made sense… added the illustration after because I was struggling to follow what I said and I’m the one who said it!! Lol

This is so fabulous! Especially for people who grew up -not allowed around a saw or drill. Cut foam-You make it doable! Thank you so much!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome.

You can use ZINN triple coverage primer

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Sure… or get some Killz in there if you want for some anti-microbial bonus.

So, where is my beer? That's a really nice ceiling.

Thanks very much for your videos on foam construction. This may sound dumb, and I may have missed it somewhere, but do you need to peel the plastic membrane off the surface of the XPS foam so the paint will adhere? I just experimented with PPG Gripper primer, and found that after allowing to dry overnight the paint stuck to the part of the surface where the membrane had been peeled off much better than on the membrane.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

That is NOT dumb! That is a common question and I have never noticed said plastic on the foam… I am assuming this is a new thing on Foamular and it’s no bueno. Sounds like you did the testing needed and got your answer… yes, peel it off (or maybe lightly sand it?). things continue to change and we have to adapt! I’ll add this to my Q&A video for sure!

this is wonderful. thank you for taking the time to make this

This is such a versatile thing love it

I shared to a few van build groups ❤. Youre phenomenal and so easy to learn from! Definitely the lego champ! I watched your earlier videos a yr or so ago an my goodness have you taken your craft to an amazing level that my mind is blown! I truly value every word that youve said..i cant express enough how much i appreciate your gift to us all❤ Thank you soo very much for being such a genuine and generous person! I am so happy to see you living the best life!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

I LOVE the ceiling! Very impressive. Thanks heaps for the help on my foamy mate.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

👍🏽

so many great ideas. Great job! your trials, errors, and corrections will help many of us save some of the research time. I enjoyed watching and listening to your thought processes! Thank you

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

👍🏽

Another excellent video, you do a great job explaining every detail. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Really digging these videos ,I feel like this is something that totally makes good sense and is pretty easy material to work with

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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What an awesome build! I'm glad I found this.. thank you. Look forward to more content... would love to build a camper even trailer.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

There is quite a bit about foam from my first video to the recent ones… if you e seen all that, there IS more coming soon.

Appreciate all of your work & detailed testing methodology. . . Great info to share! :)

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Thanks it's very nice thing to share your experience and time with people!

@falkornomad

9 ай бұрын

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LIVE THIS, SO glad I saved your original & subscribed, I just got my seats out, and I'm SO READY TO USE YOUR TECHNIQUE. THANK U SO MUCH for the details, & the math. My fixed income limits most time on build . I'm creating in my living room now. Great series! I shared it on my three van life FB sites. Spread this awesome knowledge around! Safe. JOURNEY ❤️

I totally get it I have been a builder for 40years in England And I can see this working on a lot of builds not every were but all most but well done for putting it out there 🙏😊👍

As for the beer, I'm drinking , triple chocolate imperial milk stout from Flying Monkey 🐒 🙈 🙊 out of Canada 10% alc/vol

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Perfect… I could deal with a lot of math and spreadsheets with one of those in my hand!

your are the first to talk about this in all my research this is very helpfull thankyou so much

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

👍🏽

Thanks great video

Explanation on garage ceiling at 14:30 was great, esp with graphics. Great teacher.

@falkornomad

11 ай бұрын

👍🏽Thanks!

Good video thanks for sharing. God bless you in Yours

Your explanation was good, it’s like building a stud wall

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

exactly!!

Love the way you explain things.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I really love this video and info, thanks buddy!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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Man, I appreciate your videos a lot. I live in Germany and I am going to build a foldable pick up camper during the next 2 years. It will be a xps foam composite build. For the most stressed structural parts I even will use carbon fibre with epoxy. Once more thx a lot for the inspiration. Mark

Ohh I’ve created a library for myself to follow for my now 2 trailers to work on. This is amazing instructions!! Step by step. I can’t thank u enough

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

👍🏽

Great video!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

👍🏽

GREAT CEILING!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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Where's my beer! I'd actually prefer bourbon...but beer works. :)

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605

Жыл бұрын

But light?😢.. It's really really cheap...

@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605

Жыл бұрын

Dude really like your ideas, I know you don't give an F..😊 It is what it is, If that's a thing?😵‍💫

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I do give an F… I’m here to exchange ideas and I like to hear that people like or are inspired by mine! Thanks!!

Another great video.

@falkornomad

11 ай бұрын

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What a great video! Lots of fun. Great job explaining. Loved the added humor! Mark (& Teresa) Hampstead Maryland Ford Ranger - GFC Camper V2 #1919

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@OutOfOfficeCamping

Жыл бұрын

@@falkornomad 🙂

Now it puts it perspective of the step by step build. I had questions..queries…posers.. you answered it.

@falkornomad

11 ай бұрын

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Lol I love your (does that make sense?).. it makes total common sense, but I'm commenting because your build is amazing all the videos on you tube and I must tell you your video where the best ones for me to see if it would be a fail or a win.. you also are the one that inspired me to just do it it can't go good or bad if you don't try.. you where my inspiration I I thank you for that... you rock love your build your attitude and your drive..

@falkornomad

9 ай бұрын

This comment made my day! Thanks for taking the time to write it! Inspiring people to build (even if not with foam, etc) is the highest accomplishment my channel could hope to achieve! Cheers 🍻

Where's my beer? It would be the Molson Canadian BEER. Once again I'm not looking for a complete interior but I'm sure getting some good ideas on how to outfit a bare bones camper shell I built. Keep the good stuff coming.

Cant wait to search for the animal videos! Your Kindra is a blessing and im so glad you two are still going strong! I know you already give all your love to her but please give her an extra squeeze for me!❤

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Homestead videos here: youtube.com/@KEHomestead

Tension on one side Compression on the other. Many panels on commercial aircraft use this type of system.

I appreciate the effort you have put into how to assemble and techniques on how to glue everything up. I already have a converted van which i built with wood. But my van is a very simple low roof van. But the next van i build im definitely going to look into building like this. The possibilities are endless with this. You could make diy kits for people. Imagine a box being delivered to your house with foam all lazer cut and you just have to put it together like lego 🤷‍♂️ I cant wait to hear updates on how everything is holding up.

@falkornomad

9 ай бұрын

We are finishing up our 12-14 month full time travels in it and I do plan to release an evaluation of how things did… spoiler alert… everything held up really well from what I can tell!

Reallllllllly nice!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

👍🏽

Thanks; great editing, good explanations.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, I appreciate the compliments!

@ex-engineer6657

11 ай бұрын

Almost forgot...where is my freaking beer?

@falkornomad

11 ай бұрын

🍻

I'm so glad I found your channel. I'm enjoying and learning a lot from your videos. Watching other builds (from other creators) I've wondered about the use of so much wood. I know many vehicles can sustain those weights, but I've wondered if they do affect gas usage/mileage. Anyway, I'm so glad the algorithm and you are doing better because it landed me here. Great videos! 👏👏👏

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Glad it found you!

Liked subscribed👍

great video

@falkornomad

9 ай бұрын

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I am tryin to find. The subscibe button..haha i think i already subbed the very 1 st video i watched of the cabinet build..i remember the "surfboard table top challenge". I gave up my goals of building a camper and lost touch with your channel. I was looking for a video on a 12 v dc twist adapter for my stupid solar generator and somehow you popped up!! Omg im soo glad i found you again!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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Very classy ceiling! Gives your van a bit of gypsy look. Most of this info on the skins was covered in previous videos, but it's really good to have it all in one place, and with some extra tips too. BTW, here in Australia, White Knight "Grip-Lock" Primer is a good substitute for Glidden Gripper, & works quite well with the insect screening method. (I used the fine insect mesh in a roll from Bunnings - it is thinner & smoother than the regular insect mesh.) I'm a bit ho-hum about the mesh screen - it does end up quite strong, and maybe the lightest way to go, but it's butt-ugly. Which might be ok for an interior surface, but not for one you are going to see. The original people, as I understand it, covered up the screen with brown paper decoupage - which is heaps more messy work, and IMO is not really the look I want. I did try tissue paper decoupage (instead of the insect mesh) and it does add some strength over foam alone (from the glue or primer, which stiffens it) & gives quite a nice smooth finish. But again, it is heaps of messy work, and I don't think I would have the patience to do more than a small section this way. Just for info: when I was a kid, we used to make things out of paper mache - strips of newspaper soaked in a glue made of flour & water & layered - and it ended up amazingly strong. (Newspaper is pretty hard to get these days, but being very porous it soaked up the glue very well & I think this was the secret to its strength.) I also tried linen fabric (which I happened to have to hand in my sewing scraps bag) and it worked quite well for lining... maybe not as strong as the insect mesh for a weight-bearing surface, but it should protect the foam against damage from knocks & so on. I'm planning to use a cut-down painter's canvas for the interior of a large kitchen cabinet for my fridge (which is a top-opening type, doesn't need to slide out so will just sit on the bottom of this cabinet. (I only have a small van, no nothing will be very complicated.) The painter's canvas from Bunnings comes with a waterproof PVC backing, which I wasn't sure about at first. But then I remembered a comment from Jon Decker in one of the "Into the Mystery" videos: "I'm testing a method to make foam cabinets using truck bed liner for awesome impact resistance." Also, buying a painter's canvas like this is a lot cheaper than trying to buy actual canvas fabric - fabrics of all types have become really expensive here in the past couple of years, and really poor quality too. So we'll see!

@BeccifromOz

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing where to get all this in Australia 🇦🇺

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip on White Knight Grip lock!

Great video. By watching this I have learned a lot today. I watch a lot of Star Wars crafting videos on YT. To get a nice Tatooine looking wall surface use some tan paint and play sand mixed together. Also you can use a torch and water method to get a nice looking texture as well. Then you paint it.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

If you like Star Wars you might enjoy the Star Wars intermissions in all my electrical videos 👍🏽

Project farm tested various wood glues, including titebond, titebond 2 and titebond 3. Interesting results and use cases: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWGblcefd8SZo6w.html

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for turning me on to this channel, had not seen them before.

titebond and thrift shop bed sheets work well as a skin over foam. i made a foam boat using that method and it was a lightweight, useable boat for years until a dropped tree branch in a storm turned it into a pile of trash.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

All construction methods have their pluses and minuses.

Thanks for info

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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What a set-up.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Is that in a good way or a bad? Can’t tell. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@roddas26

Жыл бұрын

@@falkornomad it's good man. You have absolutely everything you need.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Right on! To be fair… an awesome wife, 2 good dogs and a bed is all I need… but all this other stuff is pretty cool too, cheers 🍻

Good Chanel…. Well made

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

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I love all the research that you put into it. Oh, and where's my beer.😏

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

NICE!!!

I would stick with 3/4” wood for the drawer slide panel… But that foam curvature veneer is a great idea for the upper cabinet’s lower front face for head safety. 👍

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'd like to more curved sections!!

Interesting fun I’ll watch more. Thanks

Where's my beer! LoL😂

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

🍻

Where’s my beer 😂. I’ve been sending a lot of people your way as we all are trying to build teardrops out of foam.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Awesome!! Thanks! Hope my ideas are helpful!

After watching this I have used XPS foam to rebuild a teardrop trailer, Previously I used plywood/ hardboard for the interior walls, draws and shelves. But stripped it back to the glass fibre shell and have rebuilt it using XPS , Paint and some epoxy. The one tool I found very useful with the foam is a multi-tool it is great for cutting precise holes in the foam.

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

yeah, I use my multi-tool as well... usually after the foam is in place for tweaks.

You're my kind of dude man a f****** genius and they don't even know it,

Really enjoying your channel. Lots of good practical advice. I am looking forward to building a few things using this method. A truck topper, a small canoe or row boat and then eventually a squaredrop camper. I also want to do some strength testing along the lines of what you have done. I am curious to see if bonding multiple thiner layers of screen and foam is stronger than one thicker layer of skinned foam. I would also like to do some tests to see if perforating the foam with the spikey roller things actually helps with the strength of the pannel or if it only helps to ensure full adhesion. I think the light weight, the mold resistance, and the resistance to water penetration make this an amazing build material. Even if you do get water through the glue/paint/skin layer it still can't enter or damage the foam. I think it would also be interesting to test the strength if you only screen one side and leave the other as bare foam in situations where you can ensure that only one side will be under tension. Cheers, you have given me lots to think about.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the insulation factor!!! I too would like to do tests on the screening methods. I struggle to come up with a simple and meaningful test method. The way I do in these videos showing weight on a span and it curving x inches is fine for foam in span / horizontal orientation, but I’m not sure it’s accurate for when foam is a vertical support since the load is not being applied that way. Putting pieces in a hydraulic press would be more accurate but… uh… I don’t have a hydraulic press just lying around. 🤔

@BenMitro

Жыл бұрын

Great! I'm pondering building a very small, two man catamaran powered by solar that is sea worthy.

@sanukcanuk1282

Жыл бұрын

@@falkornomad So for open disclosure I will admit to having an engineering degree and while we are far outside my area of expertice there are a few general principles we are all taught. The work you are doing is great, measuring the deflection of the foam is a strain measurement and it is really important as many things fail due to strain. But the other thing that is great that most folks don't get is that builds that allow for strain better distribute the loads throughout the entire structure and avoid point loads that often lead to failure. (In other words bendy-bendy can be really good depending on the application). The big thing I want to investigate is when you load the foam in diferent configurations and different orientaions when does it fail and how does it fail. Do you first lose adhesion from the bonding agent or do you fail the screen/laminate tensile member do to the tensile load or does the interior part of the bend fail do to compression. A really cool test would be to fatigue it (by this I mean; cycle the loading 1,000,000 times to see if funny stuff happens over time like microtears, mictro fractures or delamination), this would show how it stands up to a few years of on road abuse but that would require special equipment and time and money so is likely a non starter. Another cool thing about these pannels is that I think they would be easily and near infinately repairable without any special equipment. I think when you describe your build you should call the pannels "engineered composite panels comprised of a light weight, non compresive core material encased within a nylon fabric tensile outer layer, bonded with a high strength water resistant adhesive". Sure as $hit sounds more impressive than foam with a screen glued to it and you know all the commercial folks describes their stuff like that despite it not being much different in anything other than price. Anyhow I love your channel, I think if you keep doing more regular videos you will get more veiwers and hit that 10k subscriber mark soon. If you do, it will be well deserved. Godspeed my man!

@sanukcanuk1282

Жыл бұрын

@@BenMitro I think that is a great Idea, PMF (poor mans fiberglass) and the screen over XPS (which I think of as another version of PMF) can both be used if the boat will only be used for shorter excursions but I don't think these adhesives we are talking about will stand up to long periods of immersion. If you are planning to use the boat on long holiday weekends or short multiple week trips, I think you will be fine. Anything longer I am afraid you may need to bite the bullet and to to full on fiberglass+epoxy. One other thing if I may be so bold to suggest, think about doing a trimaran, that way you only need one electric motor and one rudder, the larger central hull with smaller "amas" or outrigger hulls might be easier and more forgiving to build and since they are smaller it makes the boat easier to be foldable and trailerable.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the follow up! I’m trying to get “Foam Bones” to catch on for this build method… I like your suggestion.. but maybe as a definition… it doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue 😜 As far as failure over time; after 20k miles over 7 months, I can tell you that the most common failure is the 1/8” ply separating from the foam on the edges & corners. Especially on longer horizontal spans (over 18”) on the long side of the curve / bend. For example in the video example at 14:20, the ceiling of that situation, if it was 18” or more. This is why I made this point about applying the skins in a particular order. Thanks for the encouragement and support of the channel!

The glue is called the matrix, been doing this in aviation with fiberglass sheets and carbon fiber.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I’m horrible with proper terminology and the more technical I get, the more some want to argue about it and others get confused by it. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Great information. I am going to be building a tear drop trailer that I will be pulling behind my motorcycle and want to make it as light as possible. I was going to do the PMF the traditional way with canvas and paint but now I'm thinking of using window screen and paint after watching this video but would like your take or anyone who reads this' take on that. The trailer will be about the size of a twin bed maybe a bit longer and will be taking the place of a tent for motorcycle camping. Awesome build and keep up the great work.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I’d still do the PMF on the outside it will be less textured. But then inside on the 2” foam you could use this system, and you could router the 2” foam with 1/2”-1” notches to fit 1” foam into for your bed platform, cabinets, etc and use this system.

Been working with paints for over 45yrs. Remember every season(s) manufacturers change it’s systems. And for now “gripper” is around same label or different name, but it’s a solid product. That said, plenty of other products work well.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

👍🏽

you rock...

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

I like your vids and I find them inspiring

@tomholbrook2948

Жыл бұрын

I am thinking of building out a 4 door sedan to live out of. Suburban Stealth. No need for a lot of electrical, plumbing,....

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

That’s interesting… you thinking single bed, small sink and fridge with storage cabinets?

@tomholbrook2948

Жыл бұрын

@@falkornomad no, I won't be living in, more like living out of the build. Simple = cooler, bottled water, jackery solar,... Pull passenger seat, 1/2 the back seat, use trunk, for misc,... Battery lights or hook to solar jackery. Same with USB fan,... Keeping everything simple. Storage for needables, using food pantries, planet fitness, library,... Just desire a safe comfortable place to lay my head. Working full-time still not enough for Apt. 1600-2000/ mo not enough in my area of Illinois. I am simple, single and desire to save funds.

@tomholbrook2948

Жыл бұрын

@@falkornomad suburban stealth, using job to wash face,... Freezer for ice, community church dinners, planet fitness, libraries, parks,... Live cheap. Desire to live out of build. Wanted safe place to lay head. Warm, cool, easy,... I'd love to see you and your wife do a sedan build. I will pull passenger seat, cut back seat in 1/2, build a drop wall behind seats so it will open to see out of back window. Pull rear door panels off and foam build over,... Keep one back door accessable.,... LOVE the plastic ceiling panel idea. Dollar tree offers them too. Many useful items from dollar tree in build. Lol thought about building this way before I found your foam build vids. Yet, you vids have opened me up to a new way to build out. Thank you

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I get it!! And encourage you to explore the idea! And foam would be a good fit I think. That said… I would point out that SOMETIMES, as we “simplify” we create minor stresses in our day to day that add up to stress. Take the cooler example… ice that becomes water and needs to be replenished is 1) a pain in the ass to maintain, 2) soaks your cheese (etc) with water and that’s not tasty at all. 3) buying & lugging ice in and out is not that stealth and dumping a cooler full of water is not either. 4) eventually fails when you have a busy week etc and you are buying some groceries again due to spoilage. It can be done and I don’t mean to discourage you.. but if you are considering living that kind of lifestyle, I would encourage you to consider where some investment in specific technologies could simplify your day to day, even if they complicate the build. Thoughts?

I’m at the beginning stages of a truck topper/camper. I’m going to use this method to go over top of the contractor rack I’m using as a frame. I’m now planning on screening the exterior, and then finishing with a couple sloppy coats of either bilge paint or truck bed liner.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I had the same “contractor rack skeleton” idea… would love to hear how that goes!! Consider using canvas and Titebond 2 for exterior as they do in Foamie trailers.

@Jiggamus

Жыл бұрын

@@falkornomad I thought about the PMF with the canvas and glue. My instincts are that the wire screen, Gripper, then bed liner will probably do the trick with less hassle. I anticipate it’s going to look a little ‘ugly’. I’m ok with that. Lol

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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Cool

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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One advantage to the latex primer/paint over the foam is fire protection. The paint will form a protective ash layer to help prevent ignition. The plastic foam, however will tend to melt, run, and burn.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I have an older video that covers flammability of foam if you are interested

Okay back to your drawer screw fail have you thought about gluing in a wood plug. Say you have 1 inch foam so use a Forstner bit to do about a half inch deep hole, and then a holesaw out a piece of half-inch ply would give you more glue surface area on your foam to hold it in place

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this came to my mind and is a popular comment, it would work for sure, even just plunge through and do a full 1” deep plug. I’m trying to follow the foam with drywall anchor thing down the rabbit hole for science, but this idea would work fine.

A router, with a vacuum attachment, works great at cutting clean and neat groves into that insulation

@falkornomad

11 ай бұрын

Good tip!

Pex tubing makes great, cheap chases. Know that putting wires in conduit or tubing captures heat, so can lead to voltage drops or fires. Check the amperage demand of your stuff, size wires accordingly (I use ABYC marine wire and size accordingly).

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Good tip!

Great Channel, Greetings from Germany. You did a lot of work, testing, explaining, research ..... i appreciate that a lot. Have you encounter some noise while driving? The noise that two Foam-boards make when moving against each other. Screaching, scraping, squeaking, dont know how to say it 😜. A van full of foamboards, there is always " eathquake". You hear that kind of noise?

I love the idea of foam-building & thanks for your videos describing the "how-to-do-it." What is your thinking about ventilation under the mattress to keep moisture from forming? You may have mentioned it but what is the R-Value of building in this foam?

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

I considered that... the "Den Dry" option and even just layers of cardboard. I did not do anything under the mattress but I did check on it occasionally to see if it was damp or mildew showed up... nothing... we just took the mattress out after 18 mo full time and not a bit of mildew or mold under there.

Where's my beer? 😁

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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If you skin your bed platform top and bottom before putting it in, the continuous skin will take the weight across the partitions much better. It will end up quieter and last longer.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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Lol I love it he said sky is limit he's very intense about what he's doing

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

lol.... I'm actually quite laid back... but I do get a bit intense when the camera is on, lol

II like the ceiling also.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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Fiberous skinning, without painting over them, assists with sound deadening.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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@meandmyRC99

Жыл бұрын

What is fiberous skinning?

You see me in the next video... that's a little scary. Is big brother real yet? I'm just kidding. I like your clips a lot; from practice for practice. Even if I have a little trouble understanding everything because of my bad English. Thank you, we are already planning like crazy

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I’ll turn the subtitles on for you, what language?

Compressive strength relates to the rigidity of a panel that is laminated. Some of the strongest laminates have edge cut balsa as core. FYI.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I proposed a balsa stringer like a surfboard for a countertop in my prototype series… I think that concept has some potential for longer spans of foam… say a shelf or bed platform.

Great video, after seeing so videos, would this method be compared to poormans fiberglass but using screen instead of cloth? Would it have waterproof properties?

Thank you @falkornomad for a great series. Have you (or anyone) done a structural comparison between of the different skinned foams i.e. your mesh/gripper, mesh/gripper+veneer, mesh/gripper+1/8" ply and more conventional PMF bedsheets or canvas or even paper + tightbond II? Like you did with your glue and drywall screws? For a homemade trailer it needs have a lot of structure. Thanks again.

@falkornomad

8 ай бұрын

I have not seen one, but I do hope to do one in the future, any specifics you think should be included?

@DarylOster

Ай бұрын

​@falkornomad : the information I look for is: stiffness (how many inches of deflection for a given load); strength (how much load at failure; failure mode (compression side fail, tension side fail, core fail, lamination fail, etc. ...), and panel weight per square foot. Would also be great to see different thicknesses of foam compaired (1/2", 1", 1.5", 2", 3"... for each surface material). Also, corner strength is important to actually measure (is your interlocking corner or 'T' really stronger than a mitered glued joint, a plain glued joint, or a dado grooved and glued joint? - looks to me to be a LOT more work for little if any benefit...). Also, curved surfaces can be much stronger, how do you form the xps into a curved shape?) Finally, where can you find XPS that doesn't have the film coating, and pre-scored snap lines (that weaken the material)?

Doing a car camper bed platform build (separate spare tire bed panel). Did you say you used the screen and 1/8" ply for the platform + the cargo bay walls?

06/15/2023 Hello Nomad. Good advice. I am enjoying the info. I do have construction in my history so I understand a lot but I can not say it and then do it. DOes that make sense? Good. Don

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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On a second build (if conceivable), would you consider planning out certain known, key electrical spots (lights, appliances, etc) and pre-run wire chases before glue up?

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I did on this build… some before and some after glue up… this is covered here and there in the electrical playlist I am half way through currently. Take a look and let me know if you have questions.

I have to admit to getting carried away with reduncy. and I have been learning that over building something isn't always necessary. it's just flaw in my OCD having to work on the same project twice. but just have to make myself understand. that it's sometimes necessary to work on the same project twice. due to wear and tear and to make upgrades and improvements.

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

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Can you convince Kendra to come on and talk about her thoughts on this process? I would love to hear her perspective! BTW, well done on the amount of clamps you have-impressive. Now, once again, I have alot of info running through my grey matter on things I never thought twice about--great info! Thanks 😊. P.S. every video it has been bugging me why the upwards inflection of your voice at the end of your sentences sounded so familiar--during this vid it hit me…Rodney Mullins!!!! (If you know, you know). He is also wicked smart and like you has a very calming demeanor. Thanks again

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean Rodney Mullen the skateboard legend? If so, I know, but I had to listen to him to see what you meant. If not, I guess I don’t know, I’ll add it to the LONG list of things I don’t know. Kindra (note the i, lol) is willing and we are planning to have a discussion on the subject at some point. I used to have a bunch of videos on my van channel about our Homestead and she did a sit down talk with me on this video if you’re interested. All these videos got moved (for clarity of my van channel) to a new channel that I have not promoted… here’s a link to our homestead intro with her: kzread.info/dash/bejne/daarxs99j8uYkrw.html

@Robsquick

Жыл бұрын

@@falkornomad yep! That Rodney! Apologies to Kindra on mis-spelling 🙁. I will go check out that channel!

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

She’s used to it!

Where's my beer? Very informative video. I hope to do some foam builds in the future. I've learned a lot from you. I wonder if you think it's worth the extra work on the bed support garage to do it with skinned foam vs 1/2" baltic birch plywood? For me the plywood would just be a cut it out then glue and staple it together, then paint it process. Which process do you think is more work? Or is it about the same?

@falkornomad

Жыл бұрын

I discuss labor in the vol 1 of this series, it’s about 20% more work for foam. It depends on your design, if you need or want large open bays under bed, ply might be better since it can span longer distances. If not and you value the insulation between bays, or need lightweight foam is nice. That cooler I have in my garage and my electrical system can produce a lot of heat but the foam being R5 contains that heat in those bays more than you would think. I am really happy with the foam and would use it again for the bed / garage as long as my design could accommodate it.