I think this is the first time I've heard someone talk about when women have toxic masculinity. Very important topic I feel is so missed.

@SilfredoSerrano

2 жыл бұрын

Why does toxicity have to be gendered? Why not just toxicity?

@diamondgarcia9409

2 жыл бұрын

@@SilfredoSerrano I think that's the point I was making (and them). Every time people talk about toxic masculinity they are talking about men. It can be in any gender though. If you mean the "masculinity" part then that just refers to a specific type of toxicity.

The blame game never provides empowering solutions. It’s not about one gender, race, etc...If we all take personal responsibility for our own part & be there for our brothers and sisters, our world would be more peaceful & safe. For the most part, people want what is good for everybody. Thanks for sharing this important conversation!

Everyone is main character in own stories

Upon relistening to this, I gleefully and gratefully went down a whole Glennon rabbit hole. Her TedTalk about getting sober hit home in ways I can't explain and I've had so many chills/tears from Untamed so far. As a man, I hope many more of us were put into her orbit just like I was from this episode. Many thanks, ME!

@osmosisjones4912

Ай бұрын

Real men are ashamed of being male. Masculinity is demonized. In all media I heard all schools all media all laws. You live in reverse reality. Why I take all women's accusations as confession. In this video she says she's projecting how the Adam and Eve story made her feel on boys

This hit deep “There is a difference between God and Religion”

“There’s a difference between God and Religion, between Man and Masculinity” I feel I learned so much listening to you guys, than you so much for what your doing. I would love for this video to have Spanish subtitles so I can share with all my people.

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Hello - there are Spanish subtitles. Just click the gear icon below the player and choose Subtitles/Auto-translate/Spanish.

@osmosisjones4912

Ай бұрын

Lot of worse men are actually more feminine. Have more traits identified as feminine. But that doesn't I hate just because we all should hare femininity

Can we start a chain of the number of black people that said THANK YOU to the screen and to Glennon at 25:14

"Everybody's just acting" I love this.

Another great episode the transparency of the conversation is unreal… Thank you

THIS WOMAN UGHHH I LOVE HER! I must say this was my favorite episode yet! there is so much I myself have to unpack after listening to it! keep the good work guy. truly amazing

It all comes back to this spiritual question and answer: How do we achieve world peace? We have a world full of people with inner peace. The most important thing we can do for ourselves, others and the planet, is heal our inner wounds, traumas, old templates, etc. I think it was Buddha who said that a man who truly loves himself can never hate another. The world is a mirror, and all we ever see is ourselves. When we are healing/healed, and realize that Life is not happening TO us or BY us, but rather THROUGH US and AS US, that we are each a divine spark of God having a human experience in this Earth school, then we can make choices from a place of Love, rather than fear. There is only ONE of us here, God experiencing Itself in infinite ways.

This whole podcast is completely blowing my mind totally.🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

I'm so grateful for this podcast! After Frenemies was canceled, this really is my saving grace! 🙌🏾

@mamadeekeita4093

2 жыл бұрын

lmao for real

@SiliconeDrones

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha low key same but I think this one is better for me mentally lol

Loving this!! Thank you all

Absolutely loved this. I can't get enough of these episodes. 💜

This podcast has open my mind in every way posible! I loveeeeee you guys for doing this!

I adore Glennon, I just finished reading Untamed and can’t wait to read For the love of men and Man Enough

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support! Check out manenough.com/books for links to local bookstores (many POC/minority-owned) that are selling the book.

this was a great conversation! ♥️

So important. Such important work. 🙏🙏

Thank you so much for this platform. I hope someday my husband will listen watch stuff like this but am learning still. Thank you Justin Liz and Jamie God bless xx

Love her clarity and compassion.♡♡♡♡

Have binged most of these episodes in the last week and I truely think this is an important podcast. For both men and women. The various perspectives are a great opportunity to challenge yourself on how you and those close to you goew gender and expectations and how that may or may not have an effect on your daily life. Love it! Keep doing it please! Lol

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to listen in to the conversations, and we are so glad you're finding them helpful! We are committed to this work, and appreciate you being here!

Wow!What another Amazing Chat. ✨✨🙏🙏

Thank you.

Good Stuff`! Thanks so much for your words.

Thank you Justin, Jamey and Liz for your time and making this podcast! I appreciate listening to different perspectives about this issue we as people struggle with.

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being here! We're in this together, and glad you're enjoying these conversations.

WE ONLY LAUGH AT THINGS THAT ARE TRUE❤🎉

Glennon's book was a lightening bolt in my world last year. Now I can't wait to share Justin's book with my husband!! Loved this conversation! What a great podcast!!

I love the bro love !!, so healthy !!😊😮😮

17:21 about girls and women

Absolutely beautiful

The point when she talks about men and women, Adam and Eve I think it’s been an interpretation that for so long has been perceived as that. But I think it is our job as a generation that is growing to raise our kids to think of the story in a different perspective. Start challenging their mind to look at it from a different point of you. But also asking them how they interpreted the story.

@osmosisjones4912

Ай бұрын

She's trying project how Adam and Eve story made her feel in boys

I listened to this podcast last week and took notes. Ya'll are going to see me comment on most of these videos, because IT IS WORTH MY TIME! I take notes on every podcast to self reflect and in doing so unboxing something else that I need to discuss with my therapist and then my kids. This right here was fire. She touched on quite a few things: being raised in religious doctrine, women having toxic masculinity, raising daughters and sons. My summary...what I realized was that as a mother of three, a son 21 and two daughters 23 and 17, is that I am guilty of raising my daughters to be untamed and empowered yet my son was held to a masculine standard that should not have defined him and silenced his voice. Thus subconsciously, teaching my daughters toxic masculinity and my son being made to feel like he was never good enough...I'm sitting in the discomfort of that realization. Divorcing their abusive father was only the beginning, doing whatever I can to bring to bring to light my mistakes so that they have a chance to break the cycle that they inherited...that's a journey I'll continue until my last breath. Our road to freedom continues...

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being vulnerably and sharing these powerful reflections! Grateful to have you and happy to be on the road with you.

@JonJones1776

4 ай бұрын

Your poor children

Love this content!

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being here!

I have so many thought about this. But the first one I’m commenting about is going to the car place! I literally go alone. I do so much research on cars and prices and interest rates. My husband knows nothing about cars and what he wants in a vehicle isn’t necessarily what I want in a vehicle. And I know if we go together to get my car that I will be ignored or overlooked.

The same way in which “God is not religion” “Masculinity is not men” That point right there. That is the best analogy I can think of. ✨ That whole thing about feeling like people are going to use the deep stuff against you.. I literally received that same programming.. I remember the exact moment I received the advice. Lol also it actually did happen to me growing up by the person who gave me the advice. Q: I’m wondering how do we know or decipher what is something we can share with our partner and what is something that we should be going to our friends or a therapist for bc also we can’t put all the weight on our friends either? So how do we know?

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to find that line. One way is to ask the person if they're open to you sharing about that specific thing. If it's about them, asking if they're open to it in that moment and context is always helpful. If it's not about them, it also still helps to make sure that they're in a place to receive it and support you in that moment. Sometimes, it's just better to go to someone objective, like a therapist, or someone that isn't involved in the situation at all, like a friend. That can help to work through it and figure out the best way to eventually bring it to the person it's about. There's not one universal answer, unfortunately.

@MichelleEstrada

2 жыл бұрын

@@WeAreManEnough I totally hear that. I do think for some of the scenarios I’m picturing in my head I’m going to have to maybe go to someone like a therapist bc if other things that come up too lol anyway Thank you for taking the time❤️

@JonJones1776

4 ай бұрын

But in general masculinity is men.

@osmosisjones4912

Ай бұрын

Femininity isn't women . Why are offended by demonization of femininity

Thank you for this! Incredible perspectives with weight. I’m curious if you know about The Pink Tax by chance? P&G is an incredible sponsor for Your Podcast, however they are still very much responsible for it. The Pink Tax: The pink tax further contributes to the economic inequality between men and women. Paying more for goods and services marketed to women while women earn less than men means men hold the majority of the purchasing power in the economy. Love what your doing. I gave your book to my recently graduated little bro because your perspectives are hard to find in small town America. 🧡🤘🏻

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words about the show. We really appreciate your support. We also really appreciate your feedback and for keeping the issue of the Pink Tax top of mind. It’s so important to talk about issues of equality and equity to make everyone aware and help drive change! We talked this over with our friends at P&G and they shared that they don’t apply a Pink Tax under any circumstances. They have a wide range of products and brands, which are designed for different human needs. The team at Man Enough partnered with P&G because of everything we’ve seen them do to advance equality within their company and out in the world. You can see some of what they’re working on to increase gender equality here: us.pg.com/gender-equality/. If you want to reach out to them directly, there’s contact info at the bottom of the page there. Please feel free to send any additional feedback or thoughts directly to us as well.

@JonJones1776

4 ай бұрын

1 no such thing a pink tax 2 men make more because they deserve more.

@osmosisjones4912

Ай бұрын

Seems she's trying to project her take on Adam and eve story on boys

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Hey Justin! I'm a Baha'i as well and would love to know what you thought of what Glennon says about the relationship she made between God and religion as an analogy for men and masculinity from a Baha'i point of view?

@osmosisjones4912

Ай бұрын

So can we demonize feminity

What is this 12 step programme that you're talking about?

@FreakyFeline88

2 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program

Wow! :-)

I'm a man, and I've read only Justin's book out of the books they mention here. But I feel like I still don't know what I can actively do to "figure my shit out". It all feels very vague... I don't want to depend on my wife for helping me do that for the exact reason that's talked about in this episode, but I don't know what I can actively do. Could someone help me out?

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

David, that's a very valid question and a lot of people are struggling to figure out how to take action. We will be launching some resources to help with that soon. In the meantime, we encourage you to join a men's group. Just having a safe space to talk, ask questions and share experiences on a regular basis goes a long way to start making concrete changes in yourself and your life. A lot of these groups have created virtual versions during the pandemic; ultimately, local groups in person will be the most effective when you feel safe. Another simple thing you can start doing on your own immediately is to start journaling. Writing about your thoughts, feelings, insecurities and questions on a daily basis can really help to start working them out.

11:34

If god is not religion and those are two different things , masculinity and men are two different things . Men are good and human and love , and masculinity is this cage .

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@osmosisjones4912

Ай бұрын

So can I demonize feminity without hating women

Someone can sniff it out 🤧 they can feel it which is why it is important to undefined masculinity , they are more feminine and feel it , how can you be sexist when you are woman ? But it happens all the time .

@WeAreManEnough

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

WOMEN WEAVE MOSAICS

This is trying make feel bad . Making saying desirable trate like empathy is feminine traits

Im not here to hate but personally I disagree with most everything said here

@IronChefDesi

2 жыл бұрын

Curious what you disagreed with. Not trying to start any arguments because your opinion is based on your experiences. Just want to get a different perspective

@cptzoom1155

2 жыл бұрын

How so?

@chefburn22

2 жыл бұрын

@@cptzoom1155 I think most of the differences between men and women have less to do with social constructs and more to do with biology. We can work with it and understand it or we can fight it but I personally dont believe biologically we will change

@cptzoom1155

2 жыл бұрын

@@chefburn22 interesting. I don't know if biology has much relevance to our behavior. For example. I work with dogs and allot of people like to assign certain qualities to them that they believe are only in certain breeds of dogs. Big ones are aggressive, little ones are scared etc.. Pits are dangerous Chihuahuas are mean. That's all bullshit. Made up mostly, as far as I can tell, based on what people saw on TV, or what they heard. And in fact, speaking of dogs, most people can't even tell the difference in behaviors of male and female dogs. even though their biological differences are about the same as humans in terms of sexes. In fact, dogs are way more pronounced that ours and people have a much more difficult time telling the difference. What this tells me is that television (IE, people's preconceived notions) has far more impact on what people think are gendered or biological traits..... then what are actually those things (which, again, is very little) I'd argue that it's our brains (social conditioning, up bringing etc) that bares as much weight if not more. I feel like if we were just reliant on biology, humans would have never evolved past caves and hunting. And let's say maybe it did have a larger impact. To me, looking at how the world is evolving, it looks like it has way less of an impact. My rule of thumb is: if you can perform it, it's not biology. If I can pretend to be macho, or hyper feminine, or outrageously gay, or somber and stoic (And I can, easily) and pass (and I have) then it wasn't really biology right? If it was, I wouldn't be able to pass in any circles that I wasn't biologically aligned with. But I, and everyone else, very easily can.

Maybe she has no accountability and actually is a difficult control freak

💐Guilty bought this book .. months ago.. got triggered worked through some stuff.. maybe it's time to continue the reading. 🪴🪴

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