Awesome drunk lore lol Here is the myth you mentioned and forgot about for the rest of the video. I think the relationship with the Eye of Yelough in game is pretty straightforward as the frenzy causes bursts from the eyes. And the plant origins myth. "According to the legend all happened when a childless native American couple asked the god Tupã, king to all gods and god of thunder, to make their desire to be parents possible. The request was granted and the couple had a beautiful, healthy baby boy who was cherished throughout the tribe. Envious of his qualities, Jurupari, the god of darkness, decided to kill the little boy. One day, while the boy was gathering fruit in the forest, Jurupari turned into a snake. Tupã sent deafening thunders warning the parents of the danger the boy was in, but there was no time until the snake killed the boy with its venom. Thus, Tupã ordered the child's eyes to be planted so that a plant could be born from them. The fruit of this plant should be given to people to eat in order to give them energy. In the place where the eyes were planted, the guarana was born, a fruit that has the appearance of eyes."

@quelaag

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! ❤️

@BrownHairL

2 жыл бұрын

@@quelaag By the way, guarana flavored soda is extremely popular in South America, specially in Brazil. It's actually delicious. So, thank you Jurupari for murdering that defenseless child I guess

@pedrog06

2 жыл бұрын

Só os brazuca no deep lore de Elden Ring

@pdrummondf

2 жыл бұрын

The child's eye were planted and also watered with their tears for four days.

@egoborder3203

11 ай бұрын

​@@BrownHairLthe market by my house sells this delicious soda which is also chock-full of caffeine

The actual video starts at @4:00 because Im a drunk freak rambling about Easter Sunday for 4 mins. All you need to know about the first 4 mins: Western Society views lillies as a symbol for rebirth, new beginnings, and purification. This symbolism comes from Greek culture, and in Christianity.

@gio3061

2 жыл бұрын

This is the first of your video's I've watched (sent here by Vaati). You've set a great drunken standard that I do expect to see again!

@bondmiles

Жыл бұрын

I have a ton of lilies of the valley in my front yard, never occurred to me! I can upgrade all my ghosts!!

I'm a chick and frequently drunk, you were well-composed and I commend you.Your info was insightful. You've been a font of knowledge for years.

OMG queen Marika is created from Dragon DNA! It all makes so much more sense now that's what she doesn't want anyone to know RADAGON is ADRAGON. meh this is only like 5% right

@courtneycherry5582

Жыл бұрын

Explains why he's so big 😂

@praiseit6848

Жыл бұрын

I actually wonder why Radagon has red hair like the giants. There has to be a connection somehow!

@bondmiles

Жыл бұрын

it's all coming together! Lansseax turned into a woman! she's crumbly like stone like the dragons, Omen are clearly genetic regressions to Dragon dna, her children... ADRAGON I'm dyin! (🕵Akira M. for Miyazaki... oh shit man)

Marika's great rune (the weird cross thing) looks like a pin that keeps all the runes together. Maybe because there isn't a root anymore, but, if you look at the four rings, they can't stay put without her rune

@quelaag

2 жыл бұрын

What’s curious to me is how the anchor rune is associated with “the golden lineage” and how godrick ended up with it.

@luna7157

Жыл бұрын

@@quelaag Total speculation here, but Godwyn seems like the type to pass down his great rune while still alive. He made peace with the dragons when he could have summarily executed them, and is remembered fondly by every in-game account. Symbolically, he held the demigods together as a family, and his death seriously divided them. I can think of no individual more suited for the anchor rune than Godwyn, and none less suited than Godrick. Great runes can be acquired via murder, and both GRRM and Miyazaki are big fans of royal intrigue and succession crises.

this is a longshot on a year-old video, but I just noticed something about the Crimson and Navy Hoods, which both go with the Noble set: both depict flowers at the rear the Crimson Hood (stated to be gifted to undesireables exiled to a quest for guidance against their will) depicts an unidentified stemmed flower. It looks like a Fulgurbloom but I'm not sure it's even a flower found in the Lands Between the Navy Hood gifted to those who voluntarily seek guidance of grace) has what appear to be Trina's or Miquella's Lillies, but only the flowers with no stem Not sure what to make of this, other than perhaps that a stemmed flowering plant provides VIGOR while the more ephemeral flowers sustain the MIND

@eldenringpvpenthusiast1710

11 ай бұрын

hey I'm glad others are still thinking about this. In lower Lyndel, you can find a church with those sealed windows. its interesting because to me it seems there used to be a flower worshiping religion, before someone moved the carpet aside for there to be a site of grace. The windows and some doors in the area depict three flowers with the doors even showing 3 more flowers growing out the top of one. But in the church you can find a statue of someone propping the middle flower up straight and the other two now growing on the statue like they need stability. But the flower being propped up starts to look more like a tree(with a spear of light emerging from the top flower?). If you look at the underground erdtree, you'll notice one big stem(or trunk now) with two smaller vines or roots spiraling up it, the vines are extremely similar to the two other vines depicted growing on the statue in that church. But it's also basically the same statue as upper Lyndell, but now a more feminine figure holds the spear. I swear I read a comment somewhere that there's a cycle of this flower turning into a tree then back to a flower endlessly, and I think they might be right. But the windows only depict flowers, and for the tree to be created, one needed to be held up, which may have constricted or had some unfortunate effect of the others. They may have even willingly trimmed these other flowers, but you bring a good point up of royalty being sent away. These royals could represent the flowers that did not bloom into a tree or something like that, or just might make things complicated for Marika. But I Truly now believe a great chaotic infinitely growing flower preceded the erdtree and may be the crucible of life that some other life forms came from, the ones potentially hallucinating grace from the pollen of giant man eating flower tree

Whoa I just found out about you through Vaati's most recent video. I love your content, you bring up so many interesting concepts that I genuinely never see people discuss.

About flowing water and still water. In the Haligtree there is a waterfall flowing down and still water in Malenia’s boss room. However the waterfall is actually Scarlet Rot and I think that represents how part of Malenia has become rotted from her battle with Radahn.

So I'll amit I don't know anything about hydrodynamics or dams, but could it be that the dam in Nokstella was constructed to artificially bring a flow to the previously stagnant water of Ainsel? It's also possible the water was always flowing, but the dam was needed to permanently trap the rot downstream of the Eternal City (because I imagine it's difficult for anything to travel *up* a dam).

Great video! Really enjoyed the discussion around still/flowing water and how Malenia embodies it. Have wondered about that blue dancer and it's representation in Elden Ring a lot and this has been my favorite explanation so far!! :)

I love your vids soooo much, queelag!!! they are consistently very educative and well taylored. whenever you drop, i always make a nice warm beverage and sit comfortably to watch it.

OH FUCK THE SAXOPHONE IS SO LOUD

@quelaag

2 жыл бұрын

ignore this im just a dumbass holy shit

@PrypeciowyHovnozer

2 жыл бұрын

@@quelaag 🎷🎷🎷

@cloudbloom

2 жыл бұрын

What'samattah? Ya don't like jayuzz?

@posthedonist2695

2 жыл бұрын

Ambiance

It's taking me a while to get to them all, but I'm really enjoying these videos! This one in particular was the first to catch my attention. You have no IDEA how long I've wanted a breakdown of all the plants in a Fromsoftware game, it's like a dream come true!

Another great vid! Tysm for taking the time to share your thoughts :) Seriously I find them very enjoyable not only because they look past straight narrative and focus on the artistic intentions of the devs but also because the research itself is inspiring and makes me want to read more into these topics! As a side note, I agree that the work that went into creating the world of ER is crazy and the correlation between this lore and the art itself is the best we've seen from the devs so far.

love this, your take on the game is so good, and you really know your stuff

Lollll the title! This was great. I had no idea the bell was a lily and that glovewort has someone in prayer. I was playing around with the idea that the blue fairy was a nox puppet (flowing swords) but also the way the warrior class dresses makes me think of the monks, so maybe the fairy is more likely an outer god. The themes of the Siofra (changeling) and Ainsel (my own self) cause me to spiral 😂 it'd be cool to hear your thoughts!

Loved this and the P5 soundtrack. You’re amazing ❤

3:58 I never noticed until recently but some Death Rite birds also have spirits in their wings holding the Death Ritual Spear similar to this lily

@quelaag

2 жыл бұрын

The spirits in the wings are the deathrite monks n_n

@4pfBulmond

2 жыл бұрын

@@quelaag 😳 dude you're seriously the best Lore content creator for ER rn I appreciate your work

@quelaag

2 жыл бұрын

@@4pfBulmond thank you that means a lot I wish I had more time to actually edit and script write and make things more succinct I’m glad you enjoyed it

keep up the good work loved the video! much love!

This deserves way more views!!

Hey Quelaag, thanks for the awesome deep dive videos. I noticed something corpsewax related I'd love to get your take on: looking at the model for Dragonlord Placidusax, he doesn't appear to be an Ancient Dragon at all. His heads are from second-gen dragons, and he looks like he's a bunch of different pieces held together using golden corpsewax. Is it possible he's been grafted together? I couldn't find any info about this when I looked for it, but I'm thinking maybe he's not the grand-daddy of dragons he's portrayed to be. What do you think? Keep up the awesome lore research!

I just wanted to comment about the double helix and mention the connection to the caduceus symbol. I would definitely recommend doing some more research into the symbol, it may shed some light on some more connections you may not have been aware of. Here is a snippet from Wikipedia: "As a symbolic object, it represents Hermes (or the Roman Mercury), and by extension trades, occupations, or undertakings associated with the god. [...] If applied to the dying, their death was gentle; if applied to the dead, they returned to life." Of course, the double helix and in turn the caduceus share a connection to the structure of DNA as well. P.S. Been a follower of the channel for a long time, I am glad to see you back making new videos again. Love the content! I look forward to seeing more in the future.

Good stuff, you learned me today.

I find it interesting that the main thing missing from the elden ring now is radagons great rune, that represent the roots of the erdtree and also his great rune is covering the thorns that block the way to inside the erdtree where radagon/Marika are. I noticed that it's his great rune from the sorseal talisman. And marikas great rune is the one of death that she gave to maliketh

Love this video

Drunk Lore videos are awesome!

@quelaag

2 жыл бұрын

i hated this i am sorry if I repeat shit so much and use the same words

The brazilian plant is Guaraná! it has a very famous soft drink named the same

What do you think about the possible connection between cedar apple rust and the scarlet rot in Malenia? Great video :D

Cool, who knew Oroboro The Ninja was into the "lore". I thought he was just interested in PVP. "Double Helix in the sky tonight throw out the hardware, let's do it right, AJA" - Steely Dan, Aja. Cooper is OK, in my book! Pure elation! You are so deep in love with knowledge of different cultures and its relation to Miyazaki's storytelling! Good for YOU!

The Double Helix is the Cycle of Life, Death and Rebirth. I wrote a thing about it on the Elden Ring Lore reddit if anyone is more interested in that.

This is great & Yay! You deserve good things! Great, easily understood video, btw. Thank you. It's come to my attention that every ending has deeply positive & negative elements, which is a trope for FromSoftware games, but that it's rather difficult to notice sometimes. Perhaps now isn't the time, though. Please have fun with family!

@quelaag

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah definitely if youre familiar with Shin Megami Tensei its similar. its not so much that one is good, bad, or whatever. Its all different philosophies about humanity, morality, and balance n_n

@Proctor_Conley

2 жыл бұрын

@@quelaag I'd define the Chaos Ending as bad, with only the metaphysical remaking of things by a reunified Greater Will being potentially good. Ya know? More poetic justice than a mix of philosophies. Put simply, using "good" endings: DS1; ya I'm the "Dark" Lord of Humanity but, looking back at the folks I killed, will I be repeating Gwyns' complicated reign? Bloodborne; ya I'm a squid now, but will my success create the ambition that causes another craven Yharnam City disaster? Sekiro; ya I saved the kids & left Japan, but I'm bringing the Sempou Temple parasite infection to the mainland. Elden Ring: ya I repaired the E-Ring with Perfect Order, somehow creating a metaphysical system where everyone is now accepted & co-operating, but what does that even mean? Have I created genuine good or just evolved 'MeriKKKas' Imperialism to Neoliberalism? Does that all make sense?

@quelaag

2 жыл бұрын

@@Proctor_Conley chaos can be good! It’s just the belief that you feel the world isn’t worth saving, but from the death of an entire age leaves a void for a new age to be born from. It makes sense that the frenzy flames appears before people who are suffering from despair!

@Proctor_Conley

2 жыл бұрын

@@quelaag Yes, of a sort at the very least! "Chaos" is the wrong name though, isn't it? A lie to trick Tarnished (us players, fools we are) into allowing the sad aspect of the Greater Will to restart everything. Everything & everyone dies & is remade, yes, but even dialogue of Frenzy Flames folks & the Great Merchant Caravan reveals it to be rooted in Doomer self-destruction & hate. It is a call of despair, to end the suffering by reforging all creation. That this world isn't worth the effort. We are tricked & forded into this vile plot! I think it is the Three Fingers which symbolize this Doomer Will, while the Two Fingers symbolize Hope. Hope against odds & reason for a better way of life for all. So, chaos can be good but this ending is something else entirely. No?

I also see the lake of rot manifesting the god of rot because it was cut off of the river, and this stagnated into rot.

Quelaag I'd love to hear what you think what the item piercing Marika when you enter the erdtree is

You’re the best

I would like to propose a further symbolic/hermetic dimension to the symbol of the oroborous. As a circle it represents the One the All. In this sense it represents all of creation, a point before any sort of differentiation. Because of this it is androgynous. Alchemicaly speaking it is an egg containing the sun and moon, masculine and feminine, red and white, gold and silver.

very cool vid

sure you've stumbled upon this dude but if not he seems like a kindred spirit The Tarnished Archaeologist

Coool

Recent subscriber here, with a quick question; is there one of her videos thats goes into more depth about the two bodies/one soul concept? There's at least four/five versions of it in game and im hoping to find out more

I noticed when casting some of the ghostflame spells it looks like half of the rune of death appears? Or at least I think thats what I saw

Can't remember if the helix is on one of marikas seal talismans but I think one of them shows it.

Great vid!! I just wanted to say that the ancient great rune in malekiths bossroom really looks like a lion to me, and it has always confused me. I really can't unsee it, with the long flowing mane, cheeks, eye sockets, and even slanted eyes. I was thinking lion - beast, beasts are the dawn of worship - worship established rules - the rules formed the golden order, but why is there no other lion than this old rune and Godfreys. I just don't understand

I came for the doggo asmr

Flower analysis, that's so cool!

10:58 Lately I’ve been playing with the idea that the eclipse is the origin of Destined Death. If you look at the Eclipse Shotel, it bears a striking resemblance to the halfwheel cursemark found on Ranni’s and Godwyn’s corpses. It’s only when you bring them together and brandish the Elden ring that the eclipse finally happens and returns the principle of Death back into the Lands Between(Duskborn Ending).

get it grrrlll What about the Nox flowing weapons? The sword/hammer. Do you think they should be included in the discussion about Malenia's mentor? Is there anything that points to the blue warrior guy being a Nox?

keep it up :)

I thought the cursemark of death that came from ranni and godrick were different from the actual rune of death that mailketh possessed an you get it when you kill him cuz didn't ranni only steal a fraction of it

nah this was good! I've been kinda binge-watching your channel the last couple days. sorry for the comment dumps lol Buuuut! I wanted to share my thoughts on Gowry's particular qualities. Blind, physically immobile, physically not present, and trains valkyrie offspring with specialized flowing weapons in the flowing art of combating rot.... No one at all says it, but I believe he is, or was, the Flowing swordsman, and he sealed away the god of rot within himself. Now he's a vessel who's sole purpose is to propagate generations of rot. I make this prediction. Should the sealed chamber of the God of Rot be revealed, we will find some form of Gowry waiting inside.

what program do you use to make this mind map?

@MrC2car

Жыл бұрын

Its called miro

Flowers and religions in asian-made entertainment is a HUGE topic that not even vaaty could properly explain it.

Love me some drunk quail egg

as a brazilian i feel ashamed i never made the connection of eyes of yelough and guarana

What do centipedes actually do that inspires a culture around them being something to do with immortality?

Cooper's snores.... Wow... I love them ❤️

I don't know what you have already about the guaraná plant but if there's material in Portuguese that you would like to have it translated. I would be very glad to help.

Does the Elden Ring and tree symbol being upside down in it's counterpart depiction infur that the underworld of the Lands Between used to be the overworld, and their relation flipped?

You mentioned before about Izalith making her own flame in Dark Souls, would you see that as a manipulation of the natural order? Hence why there was a centipede you must face on your way to Izalith? Or am I reaching? 🤣

@quelaag

Жыл бұрын

Not just that but all the demons are enlarged natural life forms: bugs, Capra demon, spiders, Taurus demon etc

@potgnate16

Жыл бұрын

@@quelaag very true!

Completely unrelated to the video -- does anyone feel there is any sort of lore reasoning for Farum Azula not being visible anywhere in the game except for Malenia's divine tower? You can see all of the lands between from Farum Azula, so I was just wondering if this is because of technical limitations or if there's something to read into. Also, has anyone ever put forth a timeline on WHEN exactly Farum Azula crumbled all around the lands between? must have been semi recently as its on top of stuff

@32kylebeam

2 жыл бұрын

were there actually several sanctums like farum azula floating all over or did the tornadoes carry the debris?

@Writh811

2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think Farum Azula was actually situated just north of the Beast Sanctum in Caelid, the center "spiral" of Farum Azula might have been where that Whirlpool is depicted just north west of the Beast Sanctum. There was probably more land mass there as well going up to where the waterfall that dumps out the central sea into the surround ocean while providing walking access to the tower (Malenia's tower). With this in mind I also think the inland sea level was probably a lot higher, at least high enough to feed the river where Highroad cave, and murkwater locals are (as currently that riverbed is dry), down into the "Once was but is still called Lake" of Agheel.

great video. one thing that a lot of youtubers don't mention is that Jesus in a Cross is show to everyone to represent that HE DIED FOR OUR SINS - there is a purpose, so Marika crosses everywhere represents what? it can not be just the punishment that she received after or because of the shattering, it wouldn't make any sense if we compare to Jesus. There is something more there. I mean, in order for the crucifixion from Marika to have relevance there has to be some history there, there has to be more that is been represented - (did she shatter the ring for our sake) and that is why we reverence her?....IMO.

Can I buy you tequila and be your bartender just hearing you spit hot fire? Podcast?

The fact that there is a miquella lily and st Trina lily to me gets rid of any theory that miquella is st trina

The Miranda flower might be a reference to Miranda rights seeing as how Velka's Vow of Silence seems to be a reference to the fifth amendment (amendment V).

you drew that picture of gyyndolin and gwynevere on tumblr years ago when I requested it... I still kind of cry thinking about that... I've finally accepted I'm trans too... I feel like I've owed you an apology for a long time for some weird ass mean dumb stuff I said. I'm sorry. anyway, that picture meant a fucking lot to me at the time and still does. I wish I hadn't lost the file of it...

@quelaag

Жыл бұрын

I wanna redraw it for you someday! Thank you for that Kinuh :>

@Kinuhbud

Жыл бұрын

@@quelaag :O o///o :D