"Well sir, they wouldn't leave..." one of my favorite lines from the movie...

@ARCtrooperblueleader

3 жыл бұрын

Same. 🤣❤️

@galatian5

3 жыл бұрын

"My boys got their dander up."

@Hal09i

3 жыл бұрын

@@galatian5 Then of course you have another great line from Martin Sheen's Robert E. Lee-- "Things WILL get out of control, Mr. Heath...that is why we have orders...is it possible you could have misunderstood them?" Oh man...Harry Heath is not having a good day!

@JohnnyRebKy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hal09i yep and that was a pretty harsh reprimand from Lee lol

@texasforever7887

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyRebKy he was like a father to them all. As we all know the worst thing one can do is to disappoint your father. General Heath was like a little boy trying to explain to his father how he ruined his Sunday clothes, because he had to get into a scrap with the other boys. Cuz they were picking on him. Worst of all didn't win the scrap. I can almost feel his shame in that deep hole that of despair in his stomach.

Even with a calm demeanor, Lee's disappointment is still felt by Heath to the point you hear the nervousness in his voice.

@ctvtmo

3 жыл бұрын

It is a great scene and a wonderful piece of acting.

@ARCtrooperblueleader

3 жыл бұрын

Truly.

@CorsetLebelle

2 жыл бұрын

Well Heath totally dropped the ball and got himself in a situation that Lee was not ready for Lee was still trying to concentrate his army and had no idea if that was the full union army since his cavalry commander had also fucked off for awhile and failed to give him info

@galatian5

2 жыл бұрын

@@CorsetLebelle "It is the opinion of some... excellent officers that you have let us all down."

@rodneyjones7078

2 жыл бұрын

he wasn't disapointed in Heth. Heth was one of his favorites. He was frustrated with Hill, Longstreet, and especially Stuart.

“The situation is very confused!” - me at a work meeting.

@firingallcylinders2949

4 жыл бұрын

hahaha

@firezouave4974

4 жыл бұрын

Well, did you move in as directed?

@crispinjulius5032

4 жыл бұрын

Fire Zouave Indeed I did but before you know it I was tangled up with half the HR and department heads. Well my team got their dander up and didn’t want to disengage. But HR...they wouldn’t leave!

@decifixthealmighty1762

3 жыл бұрын

@@crispinjulius5032 This is why we have orders, perhaps you misunderstood the orders?

@Stefanthenautilus

Жыл бұрын

@@crispinjulius5032 HR really put up a good scrap.

Fakey beards and some other minor issues aside, this is an excellent movie, and the soundtrack makes it even more awesome. How many out there got their civil war interest piqued by this movie?

@firingallcylinders2949

Жыл бұрын

Yep, my favorite war movie of all time and I've seen almost every major one you can think of.

I like how the filmmakers gave Heth an almost oversized hat. Apparently, the hat he wore historically was too large and had accordingly been lined with some paper to make it fit, which may have deflected the minié ball which knocked him unconscious, thereby saving his life. Attention to detail ;-)

@John011900

4 жыл бұрын

that Minnie ball stayed with him, for the rest of his life

@cannedpiss5178

3 жыл бұрын

they show his head wound in the scene where they're planning pickett's charge. always thought that was a cool little detail along with cushing's death.

@ARCtrooperblueleader

3 жыл бұрын

I love that. 🤣❤️

@galatian5

3 жыл бұрын

lol, it's like a sombrero.

@rc59191

Жыл бұрын

@@cannedpiss5178 where was Cushing's death? I remember an Artillery officer say that's it Cushing double canister but nothing about his death.

I think it is cool that Jeff Daniels plays the same character in Gettysburg AND Gods and Generals

@drmartin5062

4 жыл бұрын

they're part of a three part series. they didn't make the third one...sad

@totalwar1793

4 жыл бұрын

Devin M They really should have split Gods and Generals into a few movies. The scope of that book made it impossible to cram everything into one movie without making it boring

@joshuadesautels

3 жыл бұрын

They really should have gotten a whole new cast. You had a 10-years-older Jeff Daniels playing a 1-year-younger Chamberlain.

@johnsardonius5711

Жыл бұрын

@@totalwar1793 actually this is more because Gods and Generals was suspiciously pro-south or at least pro-south intentions and noone liked that, instead of Gettysburg movie which is a lot more balanced

"We are not yet ready for a full engagement. General Longstreet is not yet up with his beard."

@Oprey22

4 жыл бұрын

I thought "Surely they didn't have beards like that!' Then when I saw the photos at the end I realised they did.

@usersatch

4 жыл бұрын

lmfao!!!

@bodavidson2804

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the Springfield brigade arrived too late as they spent the morning fluffing and sunning their beards

@joematerascz3725

Жыл бұрын

🤣Funny Karl!! Good one!

"My boys got their dander up." Their problem would soon enough become that Lee's dander was now up, too.

"Things will get out of hand, Mr. Heath, which is why we have orders!" I love it!

@GoatZilla

5 жыл бұрын

Which is ironic because Lee would tend to give vague, discretionary orders.

@TheStapleGunKid

5 жыл бұрын

For some reason they didn't show Heath being wounded in the movie. He was shot in the head near the end of the first day. Fortunately for Heath, his hat was stuffed full of paper dispatches, and as a result the bullet didn't penatrate his skull. He didn't suffer any long-term injuries, but the wound did incapacitate him for the rest of the battle.

@777Outrigger

5 жыл бұрын

Ok, I'll be the spelling Nazi here. It's spelled Heth, not Heath. ... edit; I see there's a spelling Nazi before me. :-)

@checkmateking2854

5 жыл бұрын

@@777Outrigger No I agree with Ralph.. When speaking of historical figures, accuracy is important..

@777Outrigger

5 жыл бұрын

@@GoatZilla - I wouldn't say vague, but discretionary, yes. Lee always gave the commander on the scene the benefit of altering orders if the situation had changed. Great for aggressive first-rate Generals like Jackson, maybe not for others. And let's not forget the greatest admiral of all times, Nelson, who would add to his orders something like, 'if you can't see the signal flags, or the orders no longer make sense, no captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy', or words to that effect. Lee, like Nelson, may have given discretionary orders, but they expected aggressiveness from their commanders.

This is one of the most historically accurate reenactments of a battle in the history of cinema.

@raymondacbot4007

3 жыл бұрын

Right after Waterloo

@bradschaeffer5736

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't hold a candle to the Battle of the Crater scene in Cold Mountain. This is a very sanitized version of war...a filmed re-enactment.

@bradschaeffer5736

2 жыл бұрын

@@winchester1351 The Civil War WAS blood and gore.

@texasforever7887

2 жыл бұрын

It helps that this was filmed on the actual ground of the battle

@UrdnotSnarf

Жыл бұрын

Minus the blood.

Martin Sheen did an excellent job portraying Gen. Lee.

@lkvideos7181

5 жыл бұрын

Agree.

@checkmateking2854

5 жыл бұрын

He gets a lot of criticism from Civil War buffs but i thought he did an excellent job...

@ChuckSneed88

5 жыл бұрын

@@checkmateking2854 as a military history nerd I think he did a pretty great job, it's no easy role and his portrayal was mostly accurate and sincere and it was probably the best portrayal of Lee on film but that being said personally had it it been my movie I wouldn't have picked him for the role, he doesn't have a very commanding voice,his southern accent sounds forced at some points, and he's about a head too short to be Lee. Still he did a great job, everyone did. The film is truly a masterpiece and without a doubt one of the most accurate war movies ever made.

@scottfleming6166

4 жыл бұрын

Coming from a NC civil war history buff, I think he did a pretty good job. I think this movie, overall, is very good.

@headshotsongs9465

4 жыл бұрын

He a liberal, but first rate actor. Several other great scenes.

Nothing at all wrong with Heath’s actions that day. Using “discretionary orders” to your corp commanders who then trust in their divisional commanders was the genius of the man who invented the system in the first place: Napoleon. Move around in separate marches and then when le emperuer commands: converge. They could all fight independently and sweep their corp around the enemy from different directions. Look at Davout at Austerlitz or Auerstädt or Lannes at Montebello. If Heath made the decision to tangle with those dismounted cavalry, it was a decision made under the confidence of his commanders.

@jeffmorin5867

2 жыл бұрын

true enough. the burden of responsibility always lands on the commanding officer. If the orders are in any way unclear, it is the fault of the superior.

@brianpendergast2894

Жыл бұрын

Lee was not happy at all

@crackshack2

Жыл бұрын

@@brianpendergast2894bad news does that

I hate when my boys get the dander up

@95DarkFire

4 жыл бұрын

@Wes Takahashi "WE deployed the whole division." Like he had no choice.

@t.c.thompson2359

4 жыл бұрын

Pride and Individualism makes for poor soldiers.

@neilpemberton5523

4 жыл бұрын

@@t.c.thompson2359 Lack of discipline due to a kind of cavalier spirit was a real headache for Southern generals early in the war. But by mid-63 it was surely not a problem. Veteran troops learn the hard way that disregarding orders can get them killed. Heth made a pretty lame excuse for poor leadership.

@Hal09i

4 жыл бұрын

I never took it like that-- that Heath was actually blaming his men. Rather, he was referring to a martial spirt...a determination that he felt should not be held back. So he let his men go. He was simply explaining the circumstances to Lee why he let his men stay in the fight. A fighting spirit is never something to be discouraged in your men...@Wes Takahashi

@nmkasprkasprowicz4615

3 жыл бұрын

Easy Captian Pendleton. It's good to have your dander up, but it's discipline that wins the day.

"Now let's go surprise Harry Heath."

@studinthemaking

4 жыл бұрын

Those damn black hats.

@1987phillybilly

4 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh.....watching southerners die.......lovely

This shows the confusion that happened that day perfectly

@1987MartinT

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Army of Northern Virginia was really hampered by their lack of cavalry for most of the battle. Back in those days cavalry was the main source of reconnaissance.

@helmyabdullah1962

4 жыл бұрын

Lee was moving blind that day because there's no General Stuart and his cavalry acting as Lee 's eyes so that he would know what lies in front of him which Lee didn't know, hence the confusion which almost turned into a disaster

@neilpemberton5523

4 жыл бұрын

Whole army corps were fed in almost piecemeal by both sides, as they marched to the field as fast as they could from varying starting points. Lee got there but Meade didn't until after dark. But Meade showed great clarity of mind in ordering his best two corps commanders there, first Reynolds who was quickly killed going too far forward, then Hancock who started setting out the defensive line which won the battle.

@headshotsongs9465

3 жыл бұрын

"No battle plan survives the first hour of combat." - Patton

@firingallcylinders2949

2 жыл бұрын

It's amazing just the invention of something like radios changed battle completely. Think how many things could've been done or avoided with communication like that.

the moment when Reynolds and flagbearer appear is my favorite movie moment of all

I can't believe this was roughly 30 years ago. Seems like it's been only a short while ago when I last visited Gettysburg and they were playing this film on every TV, in every store, museum and shop...EST 93'.

"Well sir, they wouldn't leave. My boys got the dander up."

I think the actor playing Harry Heth had the smartest uniform

Longstreet was the best civil war commander on the confederate side. He actually portrayed the values, in hindsight, many place on the confederacy. After the war he joined the republican party and fought for black rights, even commanding black militia against a white uprising in Louisiana trying to suppress the black vote. Whats worse? The south disowned him for his postwar actions even so much as blaming the loss of the war on him.

@dchegu

4 жыл бұрын

Well he kinda fumbled the Knoxville campaign.

@stevestringer7351

4 жыл бұрын

It was General Jubal Early that started the smear campaign against Genl Longstreet

@indy_go_blue6048

4 жыл бұрын

Three strikes against "Ol' Pete": He worked for Grant, an old friend; he became a Republican; and last but not least he converted to Catholicism. Surprised they didn't lynch him.

@johngreen3543

4 жыл бұрын

The south has no monuments in his name, because the smear campaign was very successful.

@LtBrown1956

4 жыл бұрын

tim longstreet had his moments (wilderness and 2nd manassas) but he had problems with independent command (knoxville and suffolk)

"They wouldn't leeeeeave!" I get such a chuckle out this comment by General Heth.

@georgewashington6225

4 жыл бұрын

Me too lol just how he says it

@Tina06019

4 жыл бұрын

I was mildly amused when the fellow said “caL-va-ry,” rather than cavalry.

@bryancreech1236

4 жыл бұрын

Just a southern draw .long live the South!!!!! The best place to live !!!!

@OttoMattak

4 жыл бұрын

The situation is confused!

@snakeenjoyingacanofbeans5219

4 жыл бұрын

Lol this movie is excellent as it is cheesy.

I’ll never fail to be impressed how aggressive and sharp the 1st and 11th corps were on the first day considering their performance and humiliation a few weeks earlier at C-ville.

@JediKnight19852002

10 ай бұрын

1st Corps was very lightly engaged at Chancellorsville and were mostly used to cover Hooker's retreat along Hunting Run, losing between 1 and 2% of it's strength. III Corps was actually the hardest hit, losing almost a quarter of it's strength, followed by XII Corps, in losing 21%.

Great movie. i have watched several times. my wife and i visited the site several years ago. very moving. i will never forget.

"Beg to report, sir. Ah, seem to have screwed the pooch, sir!"

Heth's corps commander A.P. Hill remained on his cot in his tent eight miles west at Cashtown until midmorning claiming to be "very unwell." He didn't arrive on the battlefield until an hour or so later. He'd sent two of his three III Corps divisions plus two battalions of artillery on what was ostensibly a reconnaissance/foraging mission so clearly he expected something yet he stayed behind. Yes, Heth foolishly took matters into his own hands and ordered his division to "advance and take the town" not knowing what lay in front of him beyond a cavalry screen (like an entire Union I corps fast approaching) but Hill should have been there with 2/3 of his corps, sick or not. And to be fair to Heth, he had some bad luck meeting up against first the best cavalryman in the Union army in Buford and then arguably the best infantry brigade ("those damned black hatted fellows" as one reb called them) in the best division in the best corps under one of the best corps commanders in the Union Army. And as such, "they wouldn't leave." (love that line) Unfortunately for historians, Hill was killed before the war was over and we never got to read a memoir from him, which would have been invaluable...it certainly would have filled in some missing pieces of this battle, especially day 1. Powell Hill's movements at Gettysburg are somewhat lost to historians.

@jamesburkett666

4 жыл бұрын

Brad wouldn't it have been better if they had engaged the union at night since they were outnumbered?

@bradschaeffer5736

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesburkett666 It was 7:30 am when they made contact. By the afternoon the Rebs outnumbered the I and XI Corps almost 2:1. (Plus night fighting on a large scale was impossible back then. Why the battles ended at sundown.)

@Marko3123

4 жыл бұрын

Actually heath lived till 1899 and did write a memoir

@bradschaeffer5736

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marko3123 I said A.P.Hill who was killed just outside Petersburg in April 1865. I think he may have actually invited the shot that killed him, claiming he had no desire to live in a re-united Union. Who knows. Too bad. His input about Antietam, Gettysburg, etc. would have been an historically priceless perspective.

@rubyait

4 жыл бұрын

They were lost to Powell, too.

“My boys got the dander up…” fantastic

This is one of the best Civil War films ever.

What an amazing movie this was

My great, great Uncle Colonel Ingus rode next to him...

My boys got their dander up = I made a decision on my own that went against orders, and it was a bad one, but I am trying to shift the blame just a bit.

@michaelpowell2896

5 жыл бұрын

One Hill Just 1 more/ may have caused the Yanks to withdraw and Fight Elsewhere It would make for an interesting Movie for "JEB Stewart" to arrive in time to get Involved Would that have been a ruckus Custer vs Stewart

@SantomPh

5 жыл бұрын

His orders were not to force a major engagement. Heth thought that the dismounted cavalry were local milita he would overrun. Heth was dead wrong when cannon fire started hitting hos brigade

@rollotwomassey

4 жыл бұрын

Paul “Everyone’s got a plan ‘til they get punched in the face.” Mike Tyson

@aldebaran19752000

4 жыл бұрын

His corps commander (AP Hill) made no objections

@manilajohn0182

4 жыл бұрын

It was neither Heth's nor Hill's fault. The responsibility was Lee's.

Just an outstanding film, to be sure...

Well... They wouldn't leave!!!!

@davecrupel2817

4 жыл бұрын

Ma bois gawt the danda up.

Ive always been a civil war buff ,Ge.JED Staurt always been my favorite military leader, last cavalier...

@jrg7951

4 жыл бұрын

He was killed at Yellow Tavern by a random shot by a Union trooper.

@ColinH1973

4 жыл бұрын

He left the whole of Lee's army blind in the field without its eyes and ears. Glory seeker.

@TS-ev1bl

4 жыл бұрын

James Ewell Brown Stuart, aka J.E.B. or "Jeb"

@jdsmith542

2 жыл бұрын

Stuart was a fool. He had been humiliated by the Union cavalry at Brandy Station, and so nothing would do but to ride completely around the entire Union Army to prove who was the best cavalry force. Except that in doing so, he left Lee blind, to blunder into an engagement and lose, taking with him the last hopes of the CSA. Stuart was a showman, not a soldier, and a liability to the South. He did more for Meade than he ever did for Lee.

@M4X1TR0N

Жыл бұрын

Why? Stuart was an idiot and a dick, he would pick fights with Northerners just for the sheer hell of it and had no military knowledge whatsoever, he was one of those military leaders that would slit your belly and see if he can use it to his advantage. He embarrassed his father in law for fighting for the union, in payback (not intentionally) he got embarrassed back by Sheridan by destroying Stuart at Yellow Tavern, Hancock for kicking his ass at Chancellorsville, Edward Ord for kicking his ass at Battle of Dranesville

The Black Hats! Don't mess with WI's Iron Brigade!

I love that Lee seems to be getting pissed off by Heath's blunder and his explanation, but kept his cool. He would've had every right to be more aggressive towards Heath, but his orders comment was his way of showing displeasure.

@mike89128

4 жыл бұрын

If Heth had disengaged immediately, would not the union army have attacked? And the battle would have started anyway?

@TS-ev1bl

4 жыл бұрын

@@mike89128 No, at that point the Union Army of the Potomac (AoP) and its massive supply train (wagon train, not locomotive) was in no position to attack in force. On 7/1 The AoP was still strung out over many dozens of miles of several roadways all the way back into Maryland. It took the much of the AoP all of that day first day (7/1), that night, and into the next day (7/2) to arrive on the battlefield, many of them exhausted, in no shape to fight, some of them had yet to be issued sufficient ammo. Many units were strung out and depleted from soldiers falling out of the all night march (more like a run) north to the scene of the battle. I have an excellent book which is a collection of first person accounts of AoP soldiers and citizen witnesses of the days leading up to Gettyburg and the battle itself, from letters, diaries, journals, memoirs, "embedded" newspaper reporters, etc. A commonly expressed sentiment was that forced march pursuing Lee from northern Virginia all the way to Pennsylvania, sometimes on the march for 18 hours or more per day with little to no rest, food, or water, then directly into battle once they arrived on the battlefield, was the hardest march the AoP made in the entire war.

The way Sheen says "can you identify 'those people' " is very much a Lee thing to say.

Even though this film is a true historical epic on all levels, the moments of comic relief in this movie are pretty savage. The “they wouldn’t leave” line (at 1:30) really highlights this 🤣🤣🤣

I can remember when artillery used to recoil when fired even in low budget films.

@nikoladedic6623

9 ай бұрын

Of course, because cannons usually fire with lesser load and no cannonball as a precautionary measure.

@nickmail7604

9 ай бұрын

@@nikoladedic6623 but how hard would it be to have the cannons made to look like it they were recoiling, a bloke pulling on a rope.

Love the portrayal of Reynolds as a dashing figure tall in saddle - the kind of general I'd want to be (except not get shot by a sniper :)

@ladyalaina42

4 жыл бұрын

Reynolds was one of my ancestors. His grandmother was a LeFevre of the PA LeFevre's.

@tannerjordan3754

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t have to be dashing to be a good general. Stonewall was not known for for his fashion appearance

@donaldswafford6987

4 жыл бұрын

Snipers are, IMO and that opinion conditioned by personal experience, the lowest form of life on the field of battle ... I understand the contemporary obsessive admiration of snipers (I blame the TV show TopShot) ... the spectator view is a bit different from the participatory view ... IMHO ...rest in peace SugarBear ... too young too damn young

@laughingsnake1989

4 жыл бұрын

Donald Swafford they are a tool perfect for spreading disorder in a army and calling in air strikes

@stevefisher8323

4 жыл бұрын

But aren't modern drones with missiles like snipers? Designed to make a surgical strike and cripple the enemy's abilities in some way

I loved this scene as the “Yankee infantry” was Reynolds’ surprise.

I understand putting a shot together for a movie, but the guys just running in front of loaded cannons is great

I’m still disappointed no mention of the first Minnesota regiment! The first Minnesota saved the union army when general sickles left a hole in the left flank! 1st Minnesota with about 150 men charged Alabama brigade of 2,000 men to give the union time to get reinforcements! 1st Minnesota had 80 percent casualties in this battle on cemetery ridge! Later the remaining 1st Minnesota was placed on little round top right in the heart of Pickett’s charge!!

@bill920

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update. Very interesting.

@Shatamx

4 жыл бұрын

Was it in Killer Angels the book the movie is based on? No? Well theirs your answer.

@indy_go_blue6048

4 жыл бұрын

I wish they'd have spent a lot more time on the fighting (whether they mentioned 1st MN or not) that all the time they wasted talking around the campfires.

@indy_go_blue6048

4 жыл бұрын

I wish they'd have spent a lot more time on the fighting (whether they mentioned 1st MN or not) that all the time they wasted talking around the campfires.

@ColinH1973

4 жыл бұрын

@@Shatamx Should that be 'Angels'? Just wondering.

Well sir, they wouldn't *leave*.

Heth comes off as an idiot, but it does represent a problem with any command...knowing when to show initiative and when to strickly follow orders. If it was a few militiamen, the smart thing to do would be to brush them aside, however, once the battle began there was little to do but keep on fighting.

@1987MartinT

4 жыл бұрын

I like how Lee doesn't chew Heath out for it. He probably understands that if it had been only militia it had been the right choice. Lee talking about Stuart and the cavalry might be meant to explain to Heath why he didn't order the attack. But yes. You're right. There are times when officers have to follow orders to the letter, and times when they have to take personal initiative. And recognizing which situation it is can be very difficult.

@chemtrooper1

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent observation here. The fog of war is a double-edged sword and in this case, Heth didn't have full knowledge of the Federal disposition. However, Buford knew the size and strength of his opponent and masterfully delayed Heth's advance. Communication between runners was the most common means to relay tactical information between units and sometimes those guys didn't make it with their messages.

@Seriona1

4 жыл бұрын

Fortunately the US military since the Civil War has a standing order that officers are allowed to take initiative if it's reasonable.

@hagamapama

4 жыл бұрын

The real problem wasn't the decision Heth made, but the battlefield intelligence which was beyond execrable. Heth couldn't get reliable information on the force in front of him and had to make the best decision he could with the force he had.The worst part is that Lee did still have cavalry troops and refused to use them, preferring to wait for Stuart to reappear.

@Jermster_91

4 жыл бұрын

In the book that this movie is based on, the first thing the Confederates confront are Union pickets a few miles in front of Buford's Calvary. Going from maybe a dozen people shooting at you to a entire division would be confusing indeed.

Saw an interview with Sheen when he said he got the role of REL late and had no time to grow a beard. The fake beard he wears is, unfortunately, a bit obvious. But he's very good in this film, IMHO.

@ltrain4479

5 жыл бұрын

Most of the fake beards look horrible but I dont think they had the budget for realistic beards. Tom Barringers looks the worst, lol.

@indy_go_blue6048

4 жыл бұрын

"Longstreet" and "Jeb Stuart's" are absolutely the worst!

@Shatamx

4 жыл бұрын

Jeb stuart still makes me laugh every time he is on screen.

@flalawdog9463

4 жыл бұрын

Gordon Adams, if you look at photographs of the real Longtreet and Stuart their beards look fake and ridiculous by our current standards. I honestly don’t know how they were able to stand beards that long.

"We couLd sweep em." GenHeaTh is the king of one Liners

To quote a famous movie: the wrong son died!

That’s what happens when you make Foghorn Leghorn a General.

@tomzadvydas1758

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha 😂!

"They wouLdn'T Leave."

Hmm, I think the high ground, basically won.

If I remember correctly, Heth did deploy the whole division for the second attack and would have easily overrun Bufford if Reynolds hadn't shown up. Heth was not a fool enough to attack with part of his division again after one brigade had been repulsed.

@indy_go_blue6048

4 жыл бұрын

Archer and Davis attacked in the morning. Reynolds showed up before Pettigrew and Brockenbrough were put into line. Actually the rebs did quite well against Cutler's brigade, but then Robinson and Doubleday's (Rowley in temporary command) divisions came up, while Pender's division also came up to support Heth.

They should likewise make a movie about the naval battles, even though paying for the ships would be expensive.

He saw Black hats=Iron Brigade...the best of the Union Army.

This may be a Churchill quote but I find it appropriate in the situation. One can never fault a commander for being too aggressive. Aggression should always be praised while a commander who lacks aggression should be removed from command immediately.

This is my favorite spike lee joint...

confusion reigns

fight on ground of your choosing = winner. Fight on ground of enemy choosing = LOSER

@1987MartinT

4 жыл бұрын

Whenever possible, make it your choice where, when, and if you fight the enemy.

the unmentioned goat for the Confederates that day was Extra Billy Smith, who reported a large force of Federals to his flank that weren't there. He reported this to Ewell, who committed large numbers of troops to deal with this non-existent threat, who were thereby not available to take Cemetery and Culp's Hill at a time there weren't that many Union troops there.

@mike89128

4 жыл бұрын

This happens in all wars. During the Spanish-American War the US Navy spent several days in the Gulf of Mexico looking for itself. Shore station telegraphed 'a large fleet sighted' and the telegrapher on the other end write down the wrong coordinates, and when the fleet docked it was immediately sent out to find the 'enemy'.

Sheen did a good job, liked him better than Duvall but not by much. Sheen looks closer to Lee’s actual age. Duvall looked much older. Both fine actors

@Folma7

5 жыл бұрын

Cliff DIY Mech You nailed it! Sheens portrayal seemed to make Gen Lee more human. I really liked that. Duvall remarked that this role was very special to him because Lee is actually one his distant relatives.

@castercamber

5 жыл бұрын

I thought he was a bit short-statured for the role. Lee rode tall in the saddle, with a strong upper body build.

"Let's go surprise Harry Heth." And surprise him they did! 😅

Sad that Stuart let them down... Awesome battle -

Once again, a General in the field advising Lee to do something that Lee rejects. That probably would have made a difference. The interesting part is that Lee’s decision making is still sound because of his concern of the unknown. War is hell! Things will get out of control.

The "Black Hats" were a forced to be reckoned with.

@gonzaleo

Жыл бұрын

Glad they were the first to show

Correct me if I’m wrong but Heath was under AP Hill. Should it have been Gen Hill making that report?

@indy_go_blue6048

5 жыл бұрын

Hill was experiencing a relapse of whatever disease or condition he suffered from; he's the one in the black pants and red shirt that Lee had passed earlier. Per the chain of command, Heth should've reported to Hill then Hill to Lee, but in essence Heth was the commander in charge of the current action.

@djordan4648

5 жыл бұрын

@@indy_go_blue6048 I never knew that detail. Thanks!

@indy_go_blue6048

4 жыл бұрын

@@djordan4648 You're welcome. The story is that Hill suffered chronic prostatitis from a VD he acquired while at West Point. I don't know of stress exacerbated it, but it seemed to pop up at the worst times; he was debilitated at Gettysburg and during most of the Overland Campaign. He died a heroic death on the last day of the Petersburg siege when Union forces had finally broken the rebel line.

Very big error! Beuford said to get the men "online", there wasn't any computers in that era of time. LOL!

@theanimalguy7

7 ай бұрын

Perhaps “online” was a slang term for something else in 1863

If Stuart has been around Heth would not have blundered into a major engagement.

@indy_go_blue6048

5 жыл бұрын

If Heth hadn't been full of himself HE wouldn't have blundered into a major engagement. #1 he would've listened to Pettigrew's report of Union cavalry. #2 when the first cannon was fired (before Reynolds appeared) he would've realized it wasn't militia, that Pettigrew was right, and he would've withdrawn. #3 even if he thought he could push back the cavalry, as soon as the infantry appeared he should've drawn back. He flagrantly disobeyed Lee's order not to bring on a general engagement; he should've been courtmartialed and dismissed immediately after the battle.

@nocturnalrecluse1216

5 жыл бұрын

@@indy_go_blue6048 + Lee was too much of a gentleman to discipline his officers.

@firingallcylinders2949

5 жыл бұрын

He was gallivanting all around Pennsylvania. The entire loss of the Civil War in the South one could argue that Stuart is to blame. Lee had no clue who he was running into and where they were. Lee went into this engagement blind. Every other engagement Lee was known to retreat and the Union Army would chase where Lee wanted them. This was the one time Lee decided to engage the North on their terms and he paid for it.

@johnrobinson1762

5 жыл бұрын

Heth's division was at the head of the column. All but decided the place of battle. Not really sure why Little Round Top is so stressed. Minor engagement. Culp's Hill is not mentioned at all.

@kaczynskis5721

5 жыл бұрын

There have been claims that Heth was after a supply of shoes in Gettysburg - many ANV troops were ill-shod or even barefoot.

Lee's own fault for relying exclusively on Stuart and not using his other cavalry to scout the Union forces.

MAH BOYS GOT THEY DANDUH UP! 😂 being serious, for someone not in the military, I immediately recognize the universal body language of a well intentioned subordinate nervously explaining a screw up to a patient boss. 😂

It is God's will

Mr. Heath?

In Heth's defense, he was following orders from Hill to go to Gettysburg because Hill didnt believe cavalry was in the town

It is comical how they portray Heith, He would never talk this way. This is pure Hollywood.

@1987MartinT

4 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing it's meant to show his embarrassment at the quagmire he'd gotten his division into and having to explain it to his superior officer.

@jrg7951

4 жыл бұрын

@@1987MartinT Here is his report, you have to love the internet for having this stuff all over it. civilwarhome.com/hethgettysburgor.html

@emparker2101

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean the accent? Because Heth wasn’t very bright. Just like Pickett and Custer, Heath graduated last in his class at West Point.

History Buffs, what happened to Gen. Stuart ?

My ancestor, Colonel Beuford TBone Hanragan was at Gettysburg. He massed his troops near the line and just as he start to shout out an order, took a musket ball in the eye. Underred, he pressed his troops forward and was promptly shot in the elbow. He cursed the enemy then led his troops again, and was again shot - this time in the knee. The fourth musket ball entered his other leg. He held his sword and yelled "CHARGE!" and was immediately shot in the foot. Galloping bravely toward the enemy, he was shot in the clavical and and pelvis. Not one to let his men down, he continued the charge and was hit in the upper body by grapeshot. When he returned from the war, his wife Abbigail wrote in her diary that he leaked like a sieve when ever he took a drink.

@1977seabiscuit

6 жыл бұрын

LOL! Classic post!

@Rex1987

6 жыл бұрын

what side did he fight on? and i cant find anything on that person online.

@Tom-ys5ik

6 жыл бұрын

Now that is ONE TOUGH GUY!

@jstrahan2

5 жыл бұрын

Rick Shaw: Great story. However, there is no record that I can find of a "Colonel Beuford TBone Hanragan" in either army's rolls, let alone at Gettysburg. Could you tell us his regiment name? I will then check the rolls.

@indy_go_blue6048

5 жыл бұрын

I knew from early on this was a tall tale, but you really drew me in. No need to ask what side he fought for, the name gives it away, and his descendant is as full of Southern shit as his ancestor. Lol.

That was heaths last command. He should of taken that hill !

Goddamit Somebody Get me A cellphone!

A 2 great uncle of mine was a captain in a Connecticut military unit. He left as a private 2 months after Gettysburg. AI wondered why. I found papers recently that myb2btreat uncle acstauch abolishionists leading a company of abolishionists would not allow 2 dozen southerners to surrender. A diary written by my 2 great uncle explained slavery wasbavsin. Agreed and any who defended the south were sinners and should not bebgiver quarter but killed and in a brutal fashion impossible This shocked me.

@nater567

3 жыл бұрын

wat

Heath was told to go into town for shoes and supplies,(some that was all ready done twice that morning by another unit), that's when he ran into dismounted union cavalry armed to the teeth.

@MrKrumpetz

4 жыл бұрын

Actually this is one of the biggest myths about the battle perpetrated. Heth like all commanders needed to provide after action reports regarding his decisions in the field that led to engagements. Very common practice even today among commanders. Heth came up with the story about shoes and/or supplies to give an excuse to his commanding officer basically why he disobeyed orders to not engage the enemy. I only know this because the Park Rangers at Gettysburg will say so...they have had many debates about this and they along with the locals of Gettysburg popped the myth about there being a shoe factory or warehouse in the region at the time...so I trust the subject matter experts as far as this information is concerned...also because the locals know the history of their own town better than anyone. In short...Heth made it all up in order to justify the decisions he made.

@brainflash1

4 жыл бұрын

Twice *The day before*

@TS-ev1bl

4 жыл бұрын

It's interesting to read the memoirs of the Gettysburg civilians about the days leading up to the battle, the battle itself, and the mess they were left with after the armies went south. There were so many rumors and reported sightings of approaching Confederates all through June, and each time there was an alarm all of the military aged men in town would scatter into the countryside with the town's horses to prevent themselves and the horses from being forced into Confederate service. The women, children, and older men would remain in town, some hiding in their cellars. There were several false alarms prior to the first real arrival of Confederate troops under Jubal Early on June 26th, a few days before the battle. Early tried to ransom the town but most of the money and useful goods had long been cleared out of Gettysburg so the rebs continued east toward York. Early doubled back to Gettysburg once the battle began and was the left flank of Lee's army on July 1.

And Lee blames Stuart...

@Folma7

5 жыл бұрын

ManilaJohn01 And Longstreet and Picket and Heath.

@manilajohn0182

5 жыл бұрын

@@Folma7 The "blame" lies primarily with Lee.

@tylergidley1014

5 жыл бұрын

Lee blamed himself for gettysburg. I don't know where you pulled this lie from.

@manilajohn0182

5 жыл бұрын

@@tylergidley1014 I'm well aware that Lee blamed himself. I was merely pointing out that Lee admonishes Stuart in the film.

@checkmateking2854

5 жыл бұрын

@@manilajohn0182 The book *Killer angels* was a historical novel... In reality, Lee never admonishes Stuart..

Is it worth watching? i havent yet

@guardsmengunner

5 жыл бұрын

Al Mol Yes, it is very much worth watching.

@varovaro1967

5 жыл бұрын

TheCrazy Gunner thank you, i just never took the time, i will now.

@philidox

5 жыл бұрын

Dude, its like the best American Civil War movie ever!!!!!

@charlietheanteater3918

5 жыл бұрын

Philodox Xiph It is THE best movie on the civil war! Don’t let anyone tell you any different

@DariusOfPersia

5 жыл бұрын

It is 100% worth watching. The movie is brilliant. Another movie similar to this one is Waterloo, from 1970. It's a bit older, but it is another amazing movie. One of the great things about Waterloo and about Gettysburg is that both movies use nothing but actual people in them. Every soldier you see on the screen is being portrayed by a real person, and it's not computer generated at all. It's especially impressive in Waterloo. Either way, both movies are brilliant depictions of two of the most important battles in history.

When your boss asks if you may have misunderstood the orders, youre gonna say no.

Perché non pubblicare il film intero anche a pagamento invece di spezzoni è in lingua italiana

Was Heth the true hero of the first day? He pressed the attack and almost had the Union army routed, save for Ewell’s caution.

@gaslightstudiosrebooted3432

5 жыл бұрын

Doc Bailey but he was wounded before the union army cracked that afternoon.

@Shadowman4710

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say the "Union Army" cracked. It was Howard's XI Corps that broke and ran. Buford's cavalry did exactly what they were supposed to do...holding until relieved by the I Corps and the I Corp fought and died where they stood, even after Reynold's death.

@gaslightstudiosrebooted3432

5 жыл бұрын

Shadowman4710 my point still stands: Heth was in no way responsible for the Confederate victory on day 1.

@Shadowman4710

5 жыл бұрын

+ Gaslight Studios I wouldn't argue that point.

@indy_go_blue6048

5 жыл бұрын

No, he should've been courtmartialed for flagrantly disobeying Lee's order not to bring on a general engagement. There's no reason why the ANV should've been entangled at Gettysburg when they had even more "lovely ground" to the west around Cashtown.

I'm a little confused at 3:15 Buford says to go online and I have been told by many civil war scholars that they didn't have the internet back then

@michaelmalinowski1132

5 жыл бұрын

Idiot: of course there was no internet, no WiFi, no electricity. What Buford wanted for the officer. Was to go to the line of battle, I.e., the front.Your research of “many civil war experts is more than a little misguided, it is unbelievable you stupid!

@josefschmeau4682

5 жыл бұрын

We are GLAD the internet wasn’t invented back then Can you imagine the damage done to morale of the Union by the current wackos in the media ? Consider the damage that when occur when some idiot texting let go a 12 pounder at the wrong time Or fell in the entrenchments walking while texting 😆 .... the carnage ! 🤪🤪🤪

@JimSmithInChiapas

5 жыл бұрын

How conspiracy theories are born!! ("All the experts are lying to you.") ;-)

@checkmateking2854

5 жыл бұрын

Brad I thought it was a humorous comment.. I guess others don't understand it LOL!

@indy_go_blue6048

5 жыл бұрын

@@checkmateking2854 Humor is a dangerous thing on the internet, lol.

Martin Sheen, liberal to his death, is an actor.

Did either side use the British idea of having one group fire while the other loaded

@Anglisc1682

4 жыл бұрын

Good question

@dontask6863

4 жыл бұрын

Yes during certain battles it was used such as Fredericksburg and Sharpsburg/Antietam

@taigen2348

4 жыл бұрын

Volleyfire? That was already outdated, by the time of the civil war line battle tactics had evolved to the point where several ranks would all be able to fire at once and then usually they men would fire once they had reloaded so no time was wasted.

@dontask6863

4 жыл бұрын

It was still used in the early parts of the war. Until they realized it was very inefficient for the times.

@TS-ev1bl

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, there were several commands that could be given to accomplish that, such as fire by rank, fire by file, advance fire, the leapfrogging skirmisher drill for covering each other by rank as they fall back, etc, but such Napoleonic tactics were already outdated when the Civil War began, and by the end of the war had evolved into trench warfare. Weapons and ammo (the Minié ball) had become too advanced and deadly for mass combat in the open so something had to change. It is commonly said that the US Civil War started out as a replay of the Napoleonic wars and in several aspects ended up in as a preview of WW1, two of the most notable being trench warfare and tethered balloon observation of enemy movements. The same two Armies that fought each other in the open at Gettysburg in July of 1963 (the AoP and the ANV) were by the end of the next year (1864) engaged in prolonged, near-stalemate trench warfare and tunneling operations against each other at Petersburg, Virginia.

Totally freakin insane.... U.S. Army, Ret. TX

This video gets my dander up. I tripped over stone wall at Gettyburg and skinned my shin...in the snow. It was entirely appropriate that I did so. 😬🇺🇸

The movie caught quite a bit of flak for using fat over-aged reenactors vs military age men that would have been much leaner. This is very obvious when you see Pickett's Charge and the VA regiments marching forward. Lionheart Films did a movie about the Wilderness campaign that looks much more accurate. It is called Wicked Spring.

@Shatamx

4 жыл бұрын

JR G The almighty dollar. The men used in the film brought there own uniforms, guns, and gear. Just cheaper. Yes the real Reb army was made up of scarecrows. You knew every man in this film loved history and was proud to be apart of this film.

@TS-ev1bl

4 жыл бұрын

Aside from what the other commenter pointed out about the soldiers being reeactors who brought their own stuff and worked for free, under any circumstances it would have been impossible even in the 1990s, let alone now, to find 100's of background extras who are 5'7" or shorter, weigh less than 135 pounds, are in their teens or early 20s, and have the lean look of someone who has lived in the field for months or years and can march hundreds of miles carrying everything they own on their back. The average CW soldier was smaller than today's average US woman.

General lee had the most stressful job ever all those decisions too make

ain't gonna be any surprising general heth.

Ewell cost the Confederates a victory here. Stonewall Jackson would've taken the hills beyond the town.

@DTwxrisk

4 жыл бұрын

you are an idiot. really

@indy_go_blue6048

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know if Jackson (or Ewell) would've succeeded, but he probably should have tried. He had a fairly fresh division, that though it'd been marching all day hadn't been in the fight (Johnson's) he wanted support from Hill on his right which wasn't forthcoming.

@firingallcylinders2949

4 жыл бұрын

@@DTwxrisknice rebuttal, really insightful, so much knowledge just oozing from your comment

@LtBrown1956

4 жыл бұрын

firingall there is not a shred of historical or factual info to support that assertion ....jackson was a great general but there was NOT much time to organize a division size charge and then assault the cemetary hill ....moreover, I dont think ewell was even aware of culp's hill, which dominated (strategically) cemetary hill and which was also being occupied

Buford’s work on day 1 was pivital and should be studied by an serious military historian

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half." Jay Gould

@PeterOkeefe54

5 жыл бұрын

nonsense jeff...the confederate soldier fought for his bill of rights(yes slavery was worldwide back then..so?) and his home which was being invaded..union army was made up of foreigners ..most newly arrived and hustled from the boat to the army. The union govt was made up of vandebilts morgans and horace greely..railroad tycoons one and all. Lincoln ruled he did not govern..with guns at his back he threw out the constitution and murdered todays equivilant 24 million people ..many after the peace. He jailed hundreds with no charge and no due process..some for years. A true tyrant was Lincoln... I get all my information from the many newspapers of the time I own and hundreds of soldier letters since the MSM was controlled even back then and history is writen by the victor

@indy_go_blue6048

5 жыл бұрын

@@PeterOkeefe54 Nice lost cause propaganda piece. I salute you.

@markmerzweiler909

5 жыл бұрын

@@PeterOkeefe54 Slavery was on its last legs. Russia freed its serfs about the same time.

@andrewcogger7586

5 жыл бұрын

@@PeterOkeefe54 what the fuck do you mean he killed todays equivalent of 24 million people? people have always been people, they arent inflation

@ChuckSneed88

5 жыл бұрын

@@indy_go_blue6048, He's not completely wrong, there truly was no "Good" side in the civil war, on one hand the federal government was tyrannical and financially had been exploiting the south for years, slavery wasn't even the main cause until half way through when Lincoln finally freed them basically. On the other hand it's kind of hard to argue the south as fighting for freedom when they had a president who wasn't elected by the people and they were in part fighting to maintain the ability to enslave other humans. It's a difficult subject to examine from a moral point of view, most wars are.

Heath making that mistake gave our boys time to Strengthen brigade.. thanks to general Reynolds & his men, to hold the line just long enough til we could dig in later that evening.. Lee would make the grave mistake when he ordered West Virginia to make that mile charge over open ground.. "This tragedy and what it brings, all the devastation, men will kill blood will spill to preserve the nation"

"The South was stupid." Yes, if the war had been called after 2 years, the Union would look like cub scouts.

I hate when I get my dander up.

Would general Reynolds have been considered for the command of an army? Esp if he wouldn't have been killed at Gettysburg

@michaelmyers7064

4 жыл бұрын

Kyle W. He was offered command of the Union Army before Mead took it but turned it down because of the politics involved and because he wasn’t going to have a free hand.

@LtBrown1956

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmyers7064 in other words ....he turned it down because of lincoln ...it is safe to say it

Heth got sucked in because of the dander of his troops...rashness is bad in combat!

@ripvanwinkle1819

4 жыл бұрын

they had huge numerical advantage at that point. Confederate regiments were nearly the size of union brigades.

@ripvanwinkle1819

4 жыл бұрын

also why the iron brigade basically disappeared after this engagement.

@SKY-jv9ue

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@SKY-jv9ue

4 жыл бұрын

Thank-you.

@LtBrown1956

4 жыл бұрын

roger the gods of war usually favor the bold

attack

@lkvideos7181

5 жыл бұрын

if it's worth it.