Getting to the truth around HRT and breast cancer with Dr Avrum Bluming

Leading US oncologist Dr Avrum Bluming joins Dr Louise Newson to talk about the crucial role of oestrogen in women’s health.
Despite HRT’s proven benefits in protecting against heart disease, bone fracture and cognitive decline, many women still avoid it over breast cancer fears.
It’s been more than 20 years since media headlines about a study called the Women’s Health Initiative linked HRT to an increased risk of breast cancer. In this podcast, Dr Bluming says that in fact we now know oestrogen alone decreases the risk of breast cancer development by 23% and risk of death from breast cancer by 40%.
He also disputes the findings of the WHI study that combined progesterone and oestrogen HRT leads to a small increase in breast cancer cases.
‘It is very upsetting when such an influential study continues to misquote their own data,’ says Dr Bluming, who has spent 25 years studying the benefits and risks of HRT in breast cancer survivors.
Dr Bluming points out that oestrogen used to be a treatment for breast cancer before chemotherapy was developed, and that rates of breast cancer increase as we age, despite the fact our oestrogen levels fall as we get older.

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  • @MsBuffalopoo
    @MsBuffalopoo3 ай бұрын

    My mother, who recently passed at 95, was survived the hideous chopping breast cancer treatment back in the 60’s. When she woke up the doctors were nowhere to be seen. My father had to deliver the news that they had removed her breast. They cried. She made the best of it. It was not the only medical cruelty I saw her experience in her lifetime.

  • @cindycox8222
    @cindycox82227 ай бұрын

    I wish we had well educated physicians like you guys here in Canada. I have had hormone receptor positive breast cancer, and they just won’t listen

  • @debbiegiangrandi4672

    @debbiegiangrandi4672

    5 ай бұрын

    Same !!!!!

  • @nancybass1962

    @nancybass1962

    5 ай бұрын

    We still have a lot in the states not updated. I am going to have a serious talk with my family doctor and oncologist this month. My gynecologist nurse practitioner was more receptive to my talk, but I think it is hard to change because they have been so indoctrinated.

  • @easypowermoves9847
    @easypowermoves98475 ай бұрын

    Avrum was so incredibly kind and generous with information and time when I was diagnosed. Balanced, educated and human- Thanks again Avrum.

  • @nancybass1962
    @nancybass19625 ай бұрын

    I had very slow growing stage 0 cancer insitu. They immediately took me off my HRT. As I have done more research, I want to stop my hormone blocker, and go back on HRT.i expect it will be difficult to find a doctor who will support that .

  • @normapenetta5940

    @normapenetta5940

    4 ай бұрын

    Same here. My dr scolded and belittled me when I tried to discuss it. I don’t know how to find a doctor willing to to prescribe it. I will sign a release if someone can find me a doctor who will help. My my and her mother both died of Alzheimer’s. I fear that far more than breast cancer but I don’t have a say!

  • @nancybass1962

    @nancybass1962

    4 ай бұрын

    Try looking up doctors in your area that belong to the Menopause society. I did that and got a list of about ten. That short of a list is a little disturbing, since I live in a small city which is considered a medical center. I found a nurse practitioner that I am going to get an appointment to see.

  • @fenlandwildlifeclips
    @fenlandwildlifeclips6 ай бұрын

    My DCIS (early breast cancer) was diagnosed after taking HRT for a year. I was inspired ro fight for an NHS HRT diagnosis after watching several "Dr" Louise Newson videos. I regret taking HRT. I had a masectomy last year, four months ago and I am continuing to work on my left arm strength. I look completely different & I still have pain and other synptoms. I have had an ordeal & I've been very lucjy it was found early. Think twice: ER positive breast cancers ARE more serious if there is more estrogen in the body. Be careful who you trust online.

  • @misemefein-ws6tp

    @misemefein-ws6tp

    6 ай бұрын

    I was the same. I had DCIS and I had been on HRT for about 5 years. I had to give it up as it was feeding my cancer. My cancer was oestrogen related, so I'm not sure about this. This Professor didn't have cancer, as far as I know and I won't be taking any of his advice.

  • @tammiestarks6464

    @tammiestarks6464

    5 ай бұрын

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  • @karenoun8156

    @karenoun8156

    4 ай бұрын

    may i ask what type of HRT you were taking and the dosage ? Seems frightening, only after 1 year taking it you developed DCIS. Do you have family history of BC ? Thank you.

  • @fenlandwildlifeclips

    @fenlandwildlifeclips

    4 ай бұрын

    @@karenoun8156 No known family history. Combined HRT.

  • @misemefein-ws6tp

    @misemefein-ws6tp

    4 ай бұрын

    @karenoun8156 I can't remember what type,as it was 22 years ago. I was taking it for about 7 years. No history of breast cancer in the family.

  • @luisijatem
    @luisijatem2 ай бұрын

    One of the best explanations I have seen. Thank you De Newson and De Avrum. We need more like this 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @mojgankhajavi-nouri8607
    @mojgankhajavi-nouri86075 ай бұрын

    Great talk. Highly informative. What happens when someone is pelleted and the testosterone is aromatized to estrogen. Therefore having a high estradiol value systemically. I am a breast cancer survivor.

  • @Hollowmoon007
    @Hollowmoon007Ай бұрын

    Why does the beast cancer rate on HRT go up after age 51? I also wonder, if women’s testosterone levels naturally start going down in our 30’s, could it be there needs to be a balance with testosterone added into treatment correctly? Do women who only take testosterone replacement have breast cancer risk or reduction of risk? Bone and muscle health seem directly linked to our immune system health.

  • @thuyngo3420
    @thuyngo34206 ай бұрын

    Thanks you

  • @silviaconjar1184
    @silviaconjar11846 ай бұрын

    Love and Gratitude... ❤Thank you

  • @vibrantly50
    @vibrantly508 ай бұрын

    Thanks once again Dr. Louise. 🥰 This topic is so needed.

  • @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    8 ай бұрын

    Hello, I hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness, prosperity, love 💚 , and peace all over the world 🌏. I would love us to be good friends in honesty and in trust so as time goes on it will bring something great for us in the future, hope you don't mind? I'm Doctor Christopher Johnson from San Francisco, California, where are you from if I may ask?

  • @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    8 ай бұрын

    How are you doing?

  • @monakelly1720
    @monakelly17208 ай бұрын

    Thank you! So enlightening:)

  • @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    8 ай бұрын

    Hello, I hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness, prosperity, love 💚 , and peace all over the world 🌏. I would love us to be good friends in honesty and in trust so as time goes on it will bring something great for us in the future, hope you don't mind? I'm Doctor Christopher Johnson from San Francisco, California, where are you from if I may ask?

  • @Lilylibra
    @Lilylibra8 ай бұрын

    I found this video so enlightening. I have, for some years been requesting HRT from my own GP. I’m still hopeful that now I am in touch with Dr Victoria Nute at the Newson Clinic, that I may now start to improve my health, as I’m tolerating most of the miserable effects of the menopause. 🤞

  • @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    8 ай бұрын

    Hello, I hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness, prosperity, love 💚 , and peace all over the world 🌏. I would love us to be good friends in honesty and in trust so as time goes on it will bring something great for us in the future, hope you don't mind? I'm Doctor Christopher Johnson from San Francisco, California, where are you from if I may ask?

  • @catherineleviste-apostol5453
    @catherineleviste-apostol54536 ай бұрын

    How about a patient who had previous triple negative breast cancer who has menopausal symptoms? Is HRT safe to take?

  • @bcourtney4024
    @bcourtney40244 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this smazing conversation. ❤❤❤ The authors of the flawed study should be taken to task-how many women were denied HRT and how many diagnosed with breast cancer receive the dreadful 'oh you were on HRT and that is what caused your breast cancer' reaction.

  • @floatingisland544
    @floatingisland5448 ай бұрын

    You say obesity increases the risk of cancer. I know that, but I have always heard that the reason for that is because fattcells produce oestrogen. But everything I hear in this podcast contradicts that oestrogen can cause cancer. Or is the oestrogen in your fatcells different, or is there another reason why being obese increases the risk of cancer?

  • @jessicafinnigan1936

    @jessicafinnigan1936

    8 ай бұрын

    I have had the same questions. I have never gotten a clear answer, but it seems that there is some risk in general inflammation in high adipose tissue and that the estrogen produced by fat is not the same as the estrodial.

  • @floatingisland544

    @floatingisland544

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jessicafinnigan1936 Ok, thanks. I hope we will get a clear answer.

  • @cm1906

    @cm1906

    8 ай бұрын

    Good questions! I’ve heard Dr Louise say in another podcast that the estrogen produced by fat cells is not the nice/good kind. It’s called estrone and is pro-inflammatory, she went on to say. I’m with you that I’d like the medical professionals to go a bit deeper and tell us what it is about obesity that increases breast cancer risk. Or tell us if it’s not understood yet. Overall, I think it highlights how much more research is needed when it comes to midlife women’s health.

  • @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    @dr.christopherjohnson5396

    8 ай бұрын

    How are you doing?

  • @conniethornbury9464

    @conniethornbury9464

    7 ай бұрын

    Excellent information! Thank you for such a factual and objective video. What a breath of fresh air from the usual rhetoric. Self education is key.

  • @funtimefranky
    @funtimefranky3 ай бұрын

    Can someone please explain why women who have had hysterectomies don’t need progesterone yet apparently it has many benefits beyond just protecting the uterus? I don’t seem to be able to get an answer to this. Apparently, progesterone is beneficial for many things so it then seems contradictory to say women without wombs don’t need it or wouldn’t benefit from it. I realise it’s thought there is a very slight increase in breast cancer with women taking progesterone and oestrogen but this is suppose to be a very small risk. I’d like to hear more about what risks are associated with low progesterone. Edit: Comment left before completing the video… so it seems progesterone insufficiency is related to increased risk of breast cancer? I take oestrogen only but have decided to add progesterone to the mix. I’m so confused, I think I’ll buy Avrum’s book and even recommend it to my GP who doesn’t seem up to date with the issue. It’s especially important to me as my sister passed away from breast cancer and my mum was recently diagnosed and is now prescribed oestrogen blockers.

  • @jt8142

    @jt8142

    Ай бұрын

    Progesterone is prescribed for women that still have their ovaries to prevent endometrial/uterine cancer when one takes estrogen as part of Menopause Hormonal Therapy

  • @lisbethshibley158
    @lisbethshibley1587 ай бұрын

    i just don't understand why this isn't a front page news story!

  • @lindahallenstein7461

    @lindahallenstein7461

    Ай бұрын

    Patriarchy.

  • @misemefein-ws6tp
    @misemefein-ws6tp6 ай бұрын

    My sister took HRT for over 30 years. She had Dementia, dislocated her ankle, broke her tibia and fibula and died six months later. I had breast cancer at 56 and was told that I had to give up HRT as it was feeding my cancer. So I don't know about this.

  • @fenlandwildlifeclips

    @fenlandwildlifeclips

    6 ай бұрын

    I am sure my DCIS was partly caused by HRT.

  • @debbiegiangrandi4672

    @debbiegiangrandi4672

    5 ай бұрын

    Same I agree

  • @pejisan

    @pejisan

    4 ай бұрын

    which HRT?

  • @misemefein-ws6tp

    @misemefein-ws6tp

    4 ай бұрын

    Can't remember as it was 22 years ago. Sorry

  • @lindahallenstein7461

    @lindahallenstein7461

    Ай бұрын

    @@misemefein-ws6tp If it was that long ago you would have been taking Premarin which caused inflammation. Provera progesterone would have caused issues too with breast cancer. Today we take Estradiol and Micronized Natural Body Identical Progesterone. The old ones were synthetic Progesterone and conjugated equine estrogens.

  • @rcwendel
    @rcwendel4 ай бұрын

    I wish Dr Avrum went on tour in the US! I have even shown my OB/Breast Specialist his book and still they tout the old data and act as a roadblock to allowing women that may be "at risk for BC" but having way more risk for heart attack and demenia, to have a much better quality of life. This is just not one Dr--it's ALL of the doctors in my area! I have to go outside my area or state, to find a Dr that will prescribe BHRT!! So frustrating!!!

  • @nicolemerz1731

    @nicolemerz1731

    3 ай бұрын

    Very frustrating, but make the effort and get the help: it helped me so much with my insomnia, anxiety, brain fog, joint pain, frozen shoulder and memory problems!!! I'm 53 and still peri, but almost all my problems went away when I started bodyidentical modern hormones (transdermal gel and micronized progesterone which I had to upp to 300 mg each night because of some spotting but that stopped with the increased dosis). Don't be afraid because now I feel stronger and more energized than in the last 10 ys ever!!! I will never go off these hormones again, they are protective and I feel I have my younger metabolism back: I just lost 5 kilos by just stopping drinking alcohol! Best wishes to you, "sista" 😉, from Germany 💪🙋🏻‍♀️

  • @angm5266
    @angm526614 күн бұрын

    Can you not take estrogen and just take progesterone and low testosterone since testosterone raises estrogen??

  • @Tabitha_K
    @Tabitha_K8 ай бұрын

    Very interesting, but could you request fewer or zero adverts in your videos please? They are far too frequent and they spoil the continuity of conversation.

  • @andreafabiana3161

    @andreafabiana3161

    7 ай бұрын

    well you need to pay youtube to stop them putting adverts, this is the price to pay to have youtube for free.

  • @dudafox5738
    @dudafox57386 ай бұрын

    What about women who had breast cancer taking HRT? Is it safe?

  • @lablover2

    @lablover2

    6 ай бұрын

    This doctor prescribes HRT to both his wife and daughter who have previously had breast cancer. He believes it is absolutely safe.

  • @fenlandwildlifeclips

    @fenlandwildlifeclips

    6 ай бұрын

    No it isn't.

  • @debbiegiangrandi4672

    @debbiegiangrandi4672

    5 ай бұрын

    No!!!!

  • @fenlandwildlifeclips

    @fenlandwildlifeclips

    5 ай бұрын

    @@lablover2 He'll have to explain that to them when they reach stage 4.

  • @carascottvo

    @carascottvo

    5 ай бұрын

    @@wendycayless They address this in the video. Hormone receptor-positive breast cancer is more typical and does NOT mean estrogen-driven or estrogen-caused, and the type you would want if you had to have cancer. Estrogen receptor-negative breast cancer is worse (which means the cancer has mutated). They address this at 25:26. Prescriptions for HRT have gone way down since the WHI, yet breast cancer rates are still going up around the world. The overwhelming majority of the patients that take HRT don't develop breast cancer, and the majority of breast cancer patients have never taken HRT. This is not an easy generalization.