Do you have a Shimano S.T.E.P.S system on your bike?

@biketothetop

5 жыл бұрын

No, thanks, sorry I only demo tested them and found them to be noisy and have less torque 70Nm vs. 90Nm) than the Brose motor on the 2019 Levo.

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

Yep an e8000 on a previous Scott spark and now a merida e160 900e. Fantastic motor and component set especially with the Di2 shifters that you can program to multi shift up and down for those quick gradient transitions

@videoaviation

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, on a Spectral-on equal to the video with two battery. I also have an SM-PCE1 interface.

@Ethelred77

5 жыл бұрын

I did do a test ride on an Ednine VHE+ recently, with the Shimano E-8000 and Di2. What an amazing bike!

@XennialGuy

5 жыл бұрын

I have a Focus Jam2 Pro 29 and it didn't come with a Shimano manual. I'm glad the W013 error is common if you turn it on while on the bike with your foot on a pedal. I was worried mine was too sensitive or something. I love the Di2 integration, especially the torque cutoff in between shifts in Trail and Eco mode. I don't know if I could ever go back from having the Di2.

Fantastic result ....found excellent KZread videos giving step by step instructions.... i now have much better assist settings.....cant wait to ride tomorrow. Thanks guys

@embn

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Have a fun ride 🤟

Thank you for a great video! This helped me a lot I just bought my fist ebike and I didn’t get a manual or asked the right questions at the store so this was just what I needed to get started 😄

works and looks wonderful

Great video Steve. Had a Shimano motor the past 18 months and it's like a normal MTB just way more fun. You've covered all the key features.... Nice one

@embn

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian! 👍👊

@dersinnor3109

5 жыл бұрын

I was testing a Neuron ON in Koblenz. It was my first ride with a shimano motor. It feels really natural and well build bike. So very soon i am having one 😃

Very well made, excellent

Thank you GMBN, many thanks Steve. This video very helpfull. I use Shimano DU-E5000. Greeting from Indonesia. 🇲🇨🇲🇨🚴‍♂️🚴‍♂️

I love my Shimano E8000. The power assistance is more subtle, if that's a thing, than the Bosch system. The Shimano feels more like riding a mountain bike that has magical power as opposed to the Bosch that feels like you are riding a mountain bike with an electric motor....which isn't a bad thing ... fortunately I have one of each ... Bosch hardtail and Shimano dualie.... the n+1 rule still applies to e-mtbs!

@michaelp3474

5 жыл бұрын

I also have a Merida e160 900e regularly ride with others on Levo 2019 and the giant 2019 trance e+0 pro, the Merida is quicker at climbs and downhill, and the Shimano is quieter than both. Having said that they are all at least 20kg heavier than I am, so if you are over 90kgs you might need the extra torque ;)

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelp3474 nice to hear the comparison on the noise of each as often you don't get the chance to ride alongside each for a proper comparison. Most comments are subjective on what people think is noiser vs side by side. Would your friends agree with the sound level comparison?

@biketothetop

5 жыл бұрын

@@derekharper6031 I rode a Shimano powered Intense Tazer back to back with 2019 specialized levo. I found the levo to be quieter than the Shimano and I also Trek Powerfly. The levo was quieter than both of the others. Of course it's possible that different bikes are different sound levels and there have been some design changes on the levo to make sure it is quieter than the 2018. Based on my test rides I decided to get the levo because I thought it was the best-performing Electric System available at the time.

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

@@biketothetop Interesting and wondering how much the frame, tube design and material carbon on the Tazer and Trek (and odd battery compartment on the tazer) adds to the reduction or increase in noise levels?? I wonder if the various shapes of frame tubes etc can cause the sounds to amplify or resonate the motor sounds at the bottom (like a trumpet) and all the comments on one motor manufacturer being louder than another are more a cause of the trumpet type effect vs the actual standalone motor noise? Hmmm

@biketothetop

5 жыл бұрын

@@derekharper6031 noise and vibration are always a function of the system of components. . The material stiffness, mass, and shape all the outcome, so I think where you were headed with this is correct, that is, it matters about the whole bike and how all the parts are put together, so it's not appropriate to make an assessment solely on the individual components by themselves. Regardless of the noise situation, I just didn't want the Shimano motor because the levo motor has about 30% more torque-- that's a big deal! I did my demo rides and posted some videos on my KZread channel. I felt firsthand what a difference that extra torque makes on steep loose Rocky hill climbs. my eBike Demo Rides (all mfgr): kzread.info/head/PLZEb8ngMuMU1LE6-QqRLc8pXbrlydECPm I continue to cherish my levo for its performance climbing rough Rocky Terrain. Another benefit of the bike is that it is rather inconspicuous and many people don't even notice from its appearance that you are riding an e-bike.

I want that shimano jacket he's wearing. Nice

so i have a steps e5000 hybrid coming soon, mostly for work commute, sick of being sweaty before even starting my sweaty job(hah) anyway.. if i start pedalling on the highest setting it will go up to 15.5mph pretty quickly?

Hello Steve and all emtb crew!! I have Scott e genius with shimano e 8000 and i love it. My question is can i switch it on with display function button? It powers only when i press the button on the battery. And when is full of mud its not very convenient. Not big thing but just asking. Thanks!!!

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

No you can't :(

My Merida e160 manual says I can use walk mode as a hill start feature. True or b.s???

Interesting to see a bit of a deep dive. Are you going to do other manufacturers as well to make sure it's a balanced set of videos? I can't understand why the error message appears when turning it on. This seems like a design problem as other manufacturers don't have this? It's like needing to start a car before getting into it...

@leedove7255

5 жыл бұрын

My bike is coming with Shimano so I don't need any more videos ;-)

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

Its because during initialisation its checking crank position, etc during what is effectively computer boot up sequences. I would say analogous to system check your car does when ignition is turned on and before starting it

@gibbykirwan7788

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah Specialized Brose, turn on, pedal & smile......

@seanshaw8321

5 жыл бұрын

It’s no big deal, just don’t have your feet on the pedals when you turn it on

@michaelp3474

5 жыл бұрын

Shimano e8000 has adaptive power in trail mode, hence the boot sequence, other systems which just deliver constant level of power don’t need to check sensors on start up

I love my Shimano motor on my Focus but would like more info about changing the assistance levels between Trail and boost as not enough in the first and too much in the Boost. Have not had any success with the E-Tube Project. Can you help please

@embn

5 жыл бұрын

Do you know if you are running E7000 or E8000? Are you on the latest firmware update?

@2welshcake

5 жыл бұрын

Etube project works well, just need to link it up with your bike via Bluetooth and you can configure the settings. Plenty of KZread video on this if you are having trouble.

@mrexiges1

5 жыл бұрын

@@embn E8000...unsure about firmware . It is a 2017 model ..not updated by dealer as far as I can ascertain.

@banjophonist7632

5 жыл бұрын

C Young Make sure you have location services turned on. Otherwise it won’t connect via Bluetooth.

@OtterFlash

5 жыл бұрын

@@banjophonist7632 I'm going to try this, I too struggle to connect my android phone to my bike even though it has worked in the past. If you can get it connected I feel it is very easy to set the trail and boost assist levels.

So how does cadence "get the most out of your battery"?

@alexis1959

5 жыл бұрын

@Frank Hartmann have u ever pedalled at that cadence for any length of time. Seems a little on the high side but thanks for replying

@MrLukegriff

3 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to keep the cadence display on all time rather than speed? I don’t care how fast I’m going cadence and range is for me

Do the Shimano motor have a temperature sensor? Will they shut off if you are pushing them to hard?

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

Yes they do but I have never had it happen in over 5,000 km's. I live in Australia and in the summer I have ridden it at temps of 36c, too hot to ride comfortably for long anyway but the bike has been climbing steep single track and working very hard and not ever missed a beat. Hope that helps

@cutty02

5 жыл бұрын

@@derekharper6031 So does it have a temp sensor? My hub motor has a temp sensor and the temp is displayed on the LCD screen. If it get to 200f it will begin warning me and if it gets to 250f it will auto shutdown until it cools off. Does the shimano display temp? is there any warning in the manual?

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

@@cutty02 no it has no temp indicator on the display and no external temp probe as that would be internal to the drive motor unit so sealed away from the elements. There is an error code that would be displayed in an over temp situation. Turn off leave to cool and then back on again. But as i mentioned it has never occurred under pretty extreme temp conditions here where I ride. I am also not sure what the thermal cut off is set at either

@embn

5 жыл бұрын

@@cutty02 W010 is the error code that would be displayed should this be the case. 👍

@XennialGuy

5 жыл бұрын

It has a temp sensor, but not on the display, except in extreme circumstances, but I've never seen the W010 error personally. I have noticed that under Boost mode in extreme conditions over long periods of time that the motor seams to be reduced in power, like a governor, until I ease up or go into trail mode and let it cool down. It could be battery saturation, I don't know, but the power will feel like it's been temporarily reduced 25% in this scenario.

Why do you need to charge it fully the first time? What happens if i only charge to 80% and start using it?

@retromodernart4426

2 жыл бұрын

I know it's a late answer, but for you or anyone else interested, the reason is for the battery's management system to balance all of the cells properly - the bike battery is a pack full of smaller battery cells connected together, all the battery cells need to be more or less equally charged for best battery performance and lifespan. Letting it charge the first time for as long as it needs allows the battery management system (some electronics components in the battery pack) balance all of the individual battery cells until they are all equally charged as described above. After the first time, the battery cells should stay more or less in balance as long as you don't drain the battery totally to zero - *not* draining the battery below 20% is usually recommended.

Hey Steve, what size is your canyon?

@embn

4 жыл бұрын

This one is a Size XL Nutna :)

@nutnaa

4 жыл бұрын

Electric Mountain Bike Network Thnx for reply!! It’s a bit tricky on their website, like with my measurements it’s says that I need size M, but looking at you on XL bike doesn’t quite make sense for M size, btw I’m 185cm, 95 kg and inseam is 83. Any suggestions? I’m let’s say new into e mtb and thinking to get neuron on for begging.

Best way to mod the shimano? I live in Australia with the nanny 25km/h limit. Hot do I get the US 32 limit?

@RennSportJunkie

5 жыл бұрын

Google search BadassBox it doubles the limit by halfing the signal from the wheel to the motor.

Wait a minute, is this the free bike Neil got?

THIS is a pedal assist e-bike. My question can you turn that off and just use muscle power and be able to turn on the emotor or pedal assist? In other words, can I turn off the pedal assist manually when I want. Want to ride in manual until I get tired and end of my ride then TURN on the pedal assist.

@vashon100

13 күн бұрын

Absolutely. I have Bosch (not shimano, but sure the same) and off means no assistance, but you can still work it like any mtb.

Would love to know how to change/reset password on Etube software, worked once and then never let me in again.

@shauncampbell3539

5 жыл бұрын

same issue here aswell

@embn

5 жыл бұрын

Contact your local Shimano Dealer as they can advise you on this one. 👍

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

If you have the shimano pce1 or 2 interface box and the etubes app on a laptop / PC, you can do-it-yourself as there is a reset option in the etubes app. Unfortunately that option isn't available from the phone based app :(

@philipbessant1104

5 жыл бұрын

@@derekharper6031 Thanks for the reply, just had a look and those gadgets aren't cheap. Shimano need to support their customers better than this. If you google for a solution so many people can't get the Etube app to function.

@urastus9202

4 жыл бұрын

@@philipbessant1104 wow, that's bad. Should be able to reset. I also don't like that the android version of the app needs access to all files, contacts etc on the phone or it won't work. Straight out spyware.

You need better socks!🤣

You guys didn't talk about USB ports to power other devices.

Some good info but some mis information and incomplete information.. 1. You don't need to be off the bike when turning the power on to avoid the error message. Simply don't touch the pedals when turning it on and until the std off mode is displayed. 2. Would have been nice to be given more info on keeping dirty battery and power terminal pins clean. I would think pretty obvious to keep them clean but info on the best product to clean them with more helpful. I for one really have no idea what shimano recommend or in fact say you should use to avoid damage and voiding warranty! Not a lot of solid reliable info from any of the manufacturers on that.

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

@Ross Allen thanks Ross, will use that then as I already do for my brake rotors. You sure that won't affect the plastic tho??

@embn

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Derek, we would just suggest using an electrical contact cleaner and rag for this.

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

@@embn thanks guys so long as shimano approved yeah :)

@pdmerritt

5 жыл бұрын

@@derekharper6031 I'd like to add another very effective method. An eraser, trust me, it works very well. Wipe out any residue then clean with an eraser and we any eraser residue away. Contacts will be super clean.

@derekharper6031

5 жыл бұрын

@@pdmerritt thanks, I like the idea of no chemicals damaging the plastics

It's a pity the motors don't last, and and an even bigger pity the motor is not serviceable, but the biggest problem is the price to replace it. Bad design and decision from shimano.

First

@embn

5 жыл бұрын

🏆🏁

First step: put your earplugs in....

What I learned from this video. Nothing

You've made a video to make it easy for people not to read the manual? Dreadful idea.

@embn

5 жыл бұрын

It's still a good idea for people to read the manual 😀

Why is he acting like it’s his first time on an e bike

Thats weird...Shimano claims range on Trail mode 75km...yet here we could see @7:51 range on Trail mode calculation WITH FULL BATTERY indicator 47km only...well done Shimano, so its like usual with any battery operated products, advertised numbers -30% is the reality...so instead of Boost 50km, Trail 75km and Eco 100km, in reality its more like 35, 50, 70ish...

Very well made, excellent