The production value of HBO boxing is still unmatched.

@omalone1169

Жыл бұрын

1:19:00 is immense

@tcb6857

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@theartoffighting879

8 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@joeblough261

6 ай бұрын

Indeed, and it's not even close in terms of the next best that exists today. Miss HBO boxing so much

@frenchgoldenboyfan

4 ай бұрын

Never will..

Is it me or am I the only one that loves how Michael Buffer introduces Foreman! lol BIG! GEORGE!!!! FOOOOOOOREEEEEMANNNN!!!

@Colin-wd9fu

2 ай бұрын

You are not the, only. .one his breath control is amazing 😊 . .ne s😂😂

Here's my thought on this: Foreman landed 249 of 543 punches. Schulz landed 229 of 482. Foreman landed slightly more, but Schulz had a slightly higher percentage. Both are important, but who was more effective? The problem is Schulz's percentage of landed hits isn't significantly higher than Foreman's. In fact, Foreman's amount landed is a tad more impressive than Schulz's percentage of landed hits. Schulz landed 229 hits which is 92% of Foreman's 249 hits. While Foreman's percentage of landed hits is 96.5% of Schulz's percentage of landed hits. I think this is one of those fights where you could see it go either way for both fighters. Schulz looked more energetic, but Foreman hit harder. A tie is fair, but you can't take the belt if you didn't earn it.

@willisapril

2 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant scored it for Foreman. Old school boxing fans and some judges tend to favor the one with the harder punches.

@tonypaella

Жыл бұрын

The question is also how those landed punches were distributed per round. Just looking at the overall numbers is not enough. Same for connect percentage and all the other numbers.

@cockoffgewgle4993

Жыл бұрын

Why does % matter? If you're landing more punches, you're doing better. But you could also factor in the state of Foreman's face and the damage the punches did.

@romanboxing3959

Жыл бұрын

@@cockoffgewgle4993 where does total punches matter? It’s who won the rounds

@joanmjames2495

Жыл бұрын

I agree and had Foreman winning. It was a good scrap.

I love Big George I really do but Deutchland was robbed here. The judges didn't want the title to leave the USA and that's it. Axel battered George and got off better punches more often as I saw it.

@MrBri0523

11 ай бұрын

Lol dude stop saying the same thing as other people.

@JayYo21

6 ай бұрын

Nobody was robbed lol. Foreman vs Briggs was a real robbery

@dalewad-wb8ib

3 ай бұрын

@@MrBri0523 he's saying the same thing as other people are saying because thats just how it is, im a George foreman fanatic but Schulz was absolutely robbed here, if you disagree then i dont think we watched the same fight here

@marchristopheradkins

3 ай бұрын

Nah bro I disagree foreman was won the fight.

@dalewad-wb8ib

3 ай бұрын

@@marchristopheradkins elaborate...

I had it 115-113 Axel Schultz. A few rounds were difficult to score, but Schulz needed a stoppage (which was never going to happen) because he sure as hell wasn't getting a close decision over Foreman in Vegas. George was immensely popular and it was in the best financial interests of those pulling the strings that he retain the title.

@brockgeorge777

2 жыл бұрын

Well they decided differently the next time he fought. As much as he lost this fight, he WON the one against Shannon Briggs, but the judges went the other way.

@threerings1345

2 жыл бұрын

@@brockgeorge777 By that point George had worn out his welcome. It had been 3 years since Moorer, the belts were gone because he wouldn't fight anyone decent after Schultz. Still though, some still considered him the lineal champ.

@brockgeorge777

2 жыл бұрын

@@threerings1345 yes it’s obvious he was more equipped to defend his title has he regained it earlier in his comeback. By this point he knew he was more lucky than good with Moorer and became more interested in perpetuating his career than fighting meaningful fights.

@cadereimer6163

Жыл бұрын

@@threerings1345 I mean everyone considered him the lineal champ because he was by definition the lineal champ

@donavonhoward114

10 ай бұрын

Foreman won the fight, period. When a fight is that close, it can go either way, and it's not hard to see why Foreman got the favorable decision. He landed the more effective punches, and he constantly pressured Schultz all night long. I could also understand if Schultz was given the victory as well, but there wasn't a 2 point difference between them in this fight. It was a 1 point difference, or a draw, and Foreman did enough for the win. Just because someone you don't want to win ends up getting the edge on the scorecards doesn't always mean it was people behind the scenes pulling the strings. If Schultz wanted to "take" Foreman's belts, Schultz needed to separate himself from the champion with his performance. He didn't do that, and he left it up in the air. Schultz wasn't able to separate himself on the scorecards because Foreman was the better fighter at 46 years old, and it has nothing to do with his popularity at all.

Foreman says: "He ran" ...I say: "That's good footwork".

@lalkalalka2043

2 жыл бұрын

You don't know sh*t about boxing

@_friedie

2 жыл бұрын

"Defensive action is as important as offensive action in boxing." Max Schmeling said this and he died with 99 years after a very healthy and good life. And he knew a lot more about boxing than you obviously.

@willisapril

2 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant scored it for Foreman

@_friedie

2 жыл бұрын

@@willisapril So Larry Merchant scored wrong.

@omalone1169

Жыл бұрын

@@_friedie the man is a straight up coward. I would have stood there and traded blows for a whole 10 seconds

I don't know if it was mentioned in the commentary here but Schulz' head trainer (Manfred Wolke) won a gold medal in boxing at the Olympics in 1968. George won his own Olympic title later that same day.

@kevinshinduke9487

4 жыл бұрын

it was mentioned

115-113 Axel Schulz. Had Foreman needing that final round to keep his title and I think he definitely lose round 12. I do not see how people are saying Schulz won 8-10 rounds like some kind of blowout, though. Foreman outlanded Schulz and was the fighter coming forward with aggression the entire fight. Schulz generally ran away. However, Schulz ability to throw combinations and power shots in the second half of the fight (while Foreman only landed jabs and a few uppercuts) was the difference on my scorecard. With all the shady stuff going on with the IBF for this fight I do not know what to believe with regards to any funny business. Foreman Schulz ROUND 1 10 9 ROUND 2 10 9 ROUND 3 10 9 ROUND 4 9 10 ROUND 5 9 10 ROUND 6 9 10 ROUND 7 10 9 ROUND 8 9 10 ROUND 9 9 10 ROUND 10 9 10 ROUND 11 10 9 ROUND 12 9 10

@BryantFinlay

4 ай бұрын

I had it the same way

I LOVE GEORGE FORMAN BUT THAT DUDE WON.

@LionMetalMusic-videochannel

2 жыл бұрын

in boxing sometimes win by points is not enough , you must beat the man, Schultz not beat George !

@exclamationpointman3852

2 жыл бұрын

@@LionMetalMusic-videochannel maybe so, i havent seen this in a while but those were my feelings then

@jonathankeith524

2 жыл бұрын

@@LionMetalMusic-videochannel Schulz CLEARLY won this fight. George was declared the winner because there is more money behind his name for the boxing industry.

@virginiasagun5275

2 жыл бұрын

@@LionMetalMusic-videochannel https www Pa1

@willisapril

2 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant scored it for Foreman. Old school boxing fans and some judges tend to favor the one with the harder punches.

Thanks for the upload. The full shows are always the best

Wow man you have no idea how long I have been waiting too see this stuff again. GREAT WORK!!

I really like Gil Clacy, but think he had a bad night here - he was very unfair to George. There are numerous points at which Schulz throws a combo Foreman blocked entirely--typically after Foreman had snapped a nice jab and landed well to the body--and Clancy led in crediting Schulz with scoring. The entire HBO team completely ignored Foreman's body-punching, particularly his counters, and seemed not to notice the amount of damage Schulz was doing with headbutts. Given how the decision is criticised, I tried to be as charitable in scoring as I could be to Schulz, and still had it even. It's entirely proper that Foreman retained his title - all the more so given Schulz's repeated fouling.

@76WestSports

3 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@itsnotme3882

2 жыл бұрын

This fight was pretty even and tough to score. Honestly I think it could have been a draw. Both corners were confident that their fighter was fighting well and effective but I could go either way on this fight depending upon the time of day I watch it.

@vancemattson6453

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Foreman did much better than most r saying here. AS was retreating most of the fight, and Foreman's jabs and aggression gave him enough rounds to stay champ, though S did well and made it close.

@kevindean1327

2 жыл бұрын

Clancy was not very good at hiding who he disliked. He did it with Hagler in both the Mugabi and Leonard fights. If you listen to just the audio Clancy makes it sound like Hagler was losing to Mugabi until about round six and nothing could be further from the truth. Clancy lived to say " He just can't get off". Oh well he gone now!!!

@yehudafinkelstein7504

Жыл бұрын

G-d Damnit Lou Duva, if you can't see that Foreman was dancing away from Schulz, I don't know what to tell you. You probably also think Sugar Ray Leonard defeated Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

I love George too but I really think Schultz won this one.

@LionMetalMusic-videochannel

2 жыл бұрын

in boxing sometimes win by points is not enough , you must beat the man, Schultz not beat George !

@sherrillraymond7595

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah bruh George my dude but I think Schultz got him too

@LionMetalMusic-videochannel

2 жыл бұрын

@Jason you remember Leonard vs Hagler fight? who win ?...there always will be questions in boxing ..

@oldironsides4107

2 жыл бұрын

George landed more threw more landed at a bigger percentage and the fight wasn’t close?

A few years later Foreman whips shannon Briggs ,but the judges give it to Briggs .. that's boxing

@sickotwist9802

3 жыл бұрын

Yea! CORRUPT!

@scotttyson8661

2 жыл бұрын

No thanks wrong

@rockabye_baby187

2 жыл бұрын

I just thought the same thing. It is the sport. If I were Axel you had to know you had to knock him out. Don't leave it in their hands.

@jeromerizzo423

2 жыл бұрын

I thought he beat Briggs. Briggs traded with him. I think that is what did it.

@willisapril

2 жыл бұрын

I had Foreman Briggs a draw a lot of rounds were even

Fear an old man in a profession where men die young. Big George, The GOAT! Showing everyone who’s boss, what a brilliant and extremely strong guy

@ephrimmccoy8382

Жыл бұрын

Yes he is to go

Tjedor-Romero first round starts at 11:22 Foreman-Shulz first round starts at 1:31:50

I do think a lot of people didnt see the body shots George was scoring and also the 1-2 coming in, Schulz worked on the inside when Foremans hands were down. it was a closer fight than Letterman saw for sure.

@sneakyuploader_4477

3 жыл бұрын

How did you score it? On the 10-point Must system, I scored it 116-112 (8 rounds to 4) for Schulz.

@joanmjames2495

Жыл бұрын

Lederman was an idiot. He had Rahman winning by only 2 points over Tua in their second fight. Anyone with half a brain cell on life support could see Rahman won 9 of the 12 rounds easily.

Dude was doing his thing!!! I expected to see George mop the floor with him. He fought very valiantly! Sorry the judges couldn't see it differently!

@willisapril

2 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant scored it for Foreman

@thegoodguywins1

Жыл бұрын

@@willisapril Gil Clancy and Lederman didn’t

@JayYo21

6 ай бұрын

Foreman way past prime here

I saw somebody mentioned Gil Clancy and I agree he was totally off his game. Couple times he said Schultz landed "right on the button", then I go and rewind the tape and Schultz didn't even come close to the button. I had it 116-113 Foreman 6-5 and one even

george foreman's hand speed is underrated

I can see it easily going the other way but I had it 115-114 for Foreman. 6-5 rounds and I had 1 even.

@76WestSports

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. You have to take it from the champion.

@omalone1169

Жыл бұрын

@@76WestSports I always agree theren

Larry Merchant was 40 years old when he was born.

@andyaim4764

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!! And the first word out of his mouth was bullshit

@taekwondotime

3 жыл бұрын

And his scorecard was always right.

@willisapril

3 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant gave it to Foreman as well. He said Shultz ran from him the whole fight.

as much as we all love big george, how about a thought for poor shultz. a shameful decision. george won 2-3 rounds at most

@sebastianoflament9012

3 жыл бұрын

He won only one fucking round.

@willisapril

3 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant gave it to Foreman as well. He said Shultz ran from him the whole fight.

@otenk2723

2 жыл бұрын

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@otenk2723

2 жыл бұрын

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@mr.sinjin-smyth

2 жыл бұрын

Foreman landed more punches... 249 against Schulz's 229. Compare that to the Morrison fight... in which Morrison landed more... 260 to Foreman's 225. Schulz didn't do enough to convince the judges.

Wow, Foreman took on a lighter opponent than the boxing association wanted him to and he still got beaten badly here. Lucky for him the judges were on his side, he shouldn't have won this one!

@azaryaadirama6147

3 жыл бұрын

Tbf Schulz would've beaten the 1994 version of Tony Tucker

@thelevisullivan

3 жыл бұрын

George didn’t fight Tony Tucker because he didn’t want anything to do with Don King, who Tucker was under contract for.

@mr.sinjin-smyth

2 жыл бұрын

Foreman landed more punches... 249 against Schulz's 229. Compare that to the Morrison fight... in which Morrison landed more... 260 to Foreman's 225. Schulz didn't do enough to convince the judges.

@jeromerizzo423

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was Foreman's jab that won the judges.

@omalone1169

Жыл бұрын

@@thelevisullivan prove it

All these years later I had to come back and watch again to see if I'd been wrong. Nope. This was a robbery.

@mr.sinjin-smyth

2 жыл бұрын

Foreman landed more punches... 249 against Schulz's 229. Compare that to the Morrison fight... in which Morrison landed more... 260 to Foreman's 225. Schulz didn't do enough to convince the judges.

@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.sinjin-smyth Punch stats don't dictate the outcome of a decision, there are more factors. And total punches are irrelevant, as it's on a round per round basis. Schulz forced Foreman to fight his fight, that's one. He controlled the flow of the fight. It was Foreman's job to cut him off and corner him, which he didn't and couldn't do. EFFECTIVE aggression is another, so while Foreman was the aggressor, he wasn't effective. Et cetera. Go watch Pacquiao, fucking casual.

@GrubKiller436

2 жыл бұрын

@@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692 Although I agree to some extent, those numbers are still objective, and I think the objective matters at least as much as the subjective despite the flow of the fight. If you're making someone chase you, that isn't the deciding factor of whether or not you're doing better. It's the actual punches that count. An opposite example of this is Sugar Ray Robinson vs Marvin Hagler, where the runner won against the champion. And I think that's even more unfair. Because you're taking a title from a champion that you didn't earn, you didn't decisively beat him. I think these are fights that should end in a draw because neither proved they were better than the other. And the champion deserves to keep his belt.

@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrubKiller436 That's a different fight, and even then... as someone who hates Leonard but likes Hagler, I could easily make a case for Leonard winning... But Leonard employed several dirty tactics that woo'd 2 of 3 judges (and ironically the Hagler camp shot themselves in the foot with Jo Jo Guerra, who was a replacement for a judge they veto'd, as that other judge was felt to be "partial" to Leonard, but who would have given the fight to Hagler...), especially his 30 second spurts, going by the time and again proven "what have you done for me lately", with some of those old fart/short attention span judges... Hagler also essentially gave rounds away early, by Boxing Leonard instead of fighting him (he did the same with Duran, gave him too much respect and boxed him for even longer, which is the only reason Duran didn't get destroyed in that fight, as great as he was). Hardly the same situation. I feel Foreman paid for this decision with his defence against Briggs, where in turn he got fked. It's Boxing... And yes, punches PER ROUND (not overall) matter, they are PART of the judging of a round, but they are NOT the sole deciding factor... a fact that so many casuals conveniently forget or simply don't know.

George just won this fight not by much but he won

@76WestSports

3 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@jacobh7188

3 жыл бұрын

I had it 118-111 for Schultz. It was extremely one sided. And I felt bad for Foreman being robbed in the Briggs fight, this fight was far more worse a robbery.

@bb-gc2tx

2 жыл бұрын

@Slytherin Entity foreman landed more power punches schultz didnt do enough to take the title from big george

I watched that fight and still cant understand the outcome

@willisapril

4 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant scored it for Foreman and they hate each other

@ronmailloux9370

3 жыл бұрын

@@willisapril Larry has nothing on Gil Clancy . Gil knows boxing ..Larry was way off here more of a cheer leader for George ....he often is wrong.

@mr.sinjin-smyth

2 жыл бұрын

Foreman landed more punches... 249 against Schulz's 229. Compare that to the Morrison fight... in which Morrison landed more... 260 to Foreman's 225. Schulz didn't do enough to convince the judges.

Well, one judge had it even, two judges had it very close. It's difficult. There is a comment below saying that Foreman's face was all distorted after this, but Axel Shultz was banged up too. Foreman was the champ, you need to bring it to him, he shouldn't have to chase you to engage you, (this is why I still dispute the Leonard Hagler fight). Towards the end, Axel was standing toe to toe with ol' George, but I think Georg overall took much of the earlier rounds. It was so close, and I guess it's up to how the judges see it: Was Schultz hitting and running? Was the old champion pressing the action? Overall, it was only a matter of what?....6 points for George. Major, major respect though for Schultz.

@willisapril

4 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant scored it for Foreman and they hate each other

@GrubKiller436

2 жыл бұрын

@David Martin He just did make the argument.

Ouch. Schulz got robbed... unbelievable. The only person who scored the fight fairly was Harold Lederman, as he always does.

I had Foreman winning 116-114 or 6-4-2. I saw the fight the same way as Larry Merchant. I thought Foreman overall was the aggressor and landed the heavier shots. I was nice to Schulz in the beginning and gave him rounds for virtually running, but overall his movement never hurt George like Ali or Young. It only annoyed Foreman and Foreman kept coming with heavier shots. By round 9, I thought Foreman started coming on and I became annoyed with Schultz's running. The way Holmes fought Norton from rounds 12-15 is the way you take the title from the champion . Holmes stood there in round 15, lost his mouth piece and punched back against the stronger Norton. By the end of 15, he had Norton in major trouble. Holmes could have played it safe, but in stead he turned the championship rounds into a street fight. That's how you win a championship. Schulz didn't close the show on a man who was old enough to be his father and who had taken more punishment career wise than Schultz up to that point. Because of the ring age difference, this was Schulz opportunity to do what Marciano did to Louis, Ali did to Patterson, Holmes did to Ali, Tyson did to Holmes etc.

The undercard Flyweight championship fight with Romero vs. Tejedor was a good one too. I am an old man and relatively new to boxing,. I've been watching all the Tyson fights, learning and analyzing them. I could have called the undercard fight better than the two announcers, so aggravatingly biased that I had to turn off the volume so I could concentrate. Romero went the whole 12 rounds with Tejedor punishing him from round 4 on and on until he put Tejedor down in the final 10 seconds. I knew the whole fight that Romero would put Tejedor away. Go to around 65:35 for the last two rounds, and 57:32 for the knockdown. Great fight!

Great fight, have to give it to Shulz.

Felt so sorry for Shultz and his fans, he more than deserved that, clear decision for Shultz.

@davidinvenio3094

2 жыл бұрын

Yep obviously WOW how corrupt boxing was even back then

@mr.sinjin-smyth

2 жыл бұрын

Foreman landed more punches... 249 against Schulz's 229. Compare that to the Morrison fight... in which Morrison landed more... 260 to Foreman's 225. Schulz didn't do enough to convince the judges.

@stephenpannell8659

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.sinjin-smyth That may be true, but boxing is about rounds won, and not punches landed over the twelve rounds

@mr.sinjin-smyth

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenpannell8659 By having landed less punches, Schulz didn't do enough to convince the judges in EACH round. That's why he lost. I've re-watched this fight many times over in the past 20 years, and I'm more convinced than ever Foreman really won, but not by unanimous as the judges gave him, but by split decision at most. Best case for Schulz was a draw. He just didn't throw enough punches compared to what Morrison and Holyfield did to convince the judges. Foreman was hardly in trouble despite his age, blocking & evading most of Schulz's punches.

@stephenpannell8659

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.sinjin-smyth I'll admit, I've not watched the full fight for many years, so might be the time to watch it again and see if its still how I remember it

George was throwing a lot of arm punches but they where still powerful but his hand speed slowed considerably in his last couple fights. Shultz landed a lot but he got hit with some big shots throughout but he should have been given the decision, I had it 8-4 Shultz.

@fjccommish

Жыл бұрын

LOL out loud. Stick to your day job. You can't score fights.

really nice of goerge to acknowledge Moorer power and skill. Moorer would have been so much better if he just listened to teddy but he was beating goerge so bad he didn't think he was in danger. Foremans power came through. he threw the 1, 2 combo 2 times in row the 2nd set of punches landing right on the chin

116-113 foreman. Again , George s jab is way harder than anything Schulz throws, including that haymaker ungainly right cross

@neil8964

5 жыл бұрын

foreman got wobbled way more than schulz

@76WestSports

3 жыл бұрын

Amen.

@76WestSports

3 жыл бұрын

I had Foreman winning.

George Foreman lost this fight, the judges only gave it to him because he's a legend, George is carrying too much weight around in these fights he needs to be at about 235 that would increase his speed and movement.

@KeithFroehlich07

8 ай бұрын

George fought Dwight Muhammad Qawi at 2:35 and he said he felt sluggish. Anything under 255 was a good weight for George.

A young Foreman would have demolished this guy, with ease. Young George had his legs, and a mean killa instinct.

@tlig

4 жыл бұрын

But he lost this one.

@MAC-tw6jq

3 жыл бұрын

Rocchigiani: Schweine seid ihr. Betrüger

@joanmjames2495

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say that, but you said it for me! Thanks! 👍😁

@herzkine

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, he lost here though.

2:21:22 when the fans in Germany pelt the screen with bottles, etc., tells you all you need to know. I like George, but he clearly lost this fight.

@melissaderp8357

5 жыл бұрын

totally agree if he actually did win fair and square the people wouldn't have been throwing anything

@GoldDiamondJewelsGDJ-mu9hn

4 жыл бұрын

The judges liked George's aggression,there's no way the judges would let you win when the other guy has to literally run after you to make the fight happen so even by the time Shultz got his punches in the judges factored his lack of aggression and not making the fight as George not only walked towards him he ran towards him to cause a fight. George's fighting style of constant aggression and Shultz"s running worked against him. So no George's aggression no fight, so actually the judges had it right.

@exclamationpointman3852

4 жыл бұрын

WOW!!!!.......

@ThankGodImBlack370

4 жыл бұрын

Actually that tells me nothing.

@lalkalalka2043

3 жыл бұрын

Bull shit

I'm a huge Foreman fan, but this was highway robbery. Axel Schulz won.

@dustyrustymusty3577

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

@shenmuefreak1980

Жыл бұрын

Your absolutely right

I remember watching this as a teenager when I loved boxing and this robbery broke that love. Never looked at boxing the same since

@V12509

2 жыл бұрын

Love the sport not the politics

@oldironsides4107

2 жыл бұрын

Man what a pussy. This is the worst decision you’ve ever seen back then when you loved it so much I’m sure you handle adversity well. 🤡

@willisapril

2 жыл бұрын

Larry Merchant scored it for Foreman. Old school boxing fans and some judges tend to favor the one with the harder punches.

@romanboxing3959

Жыл бұрын

@@willisapril almost everyone else say it for Axel

@joanmjames2495

Жыл бұрын

It was close, but Foreman rightfully got the nod. All of the commentators were against him from the beginning, except Larry Merchant.

Fantastic fight of Axel Schulz. His unknown became his undoing by the judges.

As Jim mentioned during the first fight, Danny Romero eventually fought Jonny Tapia in the battle for Albuquerque. It's a great fight everyone should see. Tapia is a fire cracker, one of my favorites, very interesting guy he was and there is a great documentary about Tapia, he led a crazy life!

The German has not fought for 216 days and otherwise has a bad record for his age. They thought the German was windfall. The winner was determined beforehand and so were the bets. A lot of money must have been involved. If they want to do it, then they do it. Right in front of our eyes. If Foreman is a little honest with himself, he'll pass the belt on to Schultz.

Loved seeing Romero on the under card. Had a great fight with Tapia.

@spidermanron

6 жыл бұрын

Absolutely awesome fight. This was the first fight I ever watched on television as a child and boy was it a good one. I still always remember it.

@oldironsides4107

2 жыл бұрын

That tapia fight had so much hype. Romero was supposed to be the next Oscar

I love foreman but I’m shocked by the decision...

@DannyCosmos

Жыл бұрын

same axel got robbed . never heard of this fight.

@MrBri0523

11 ай бұрын

Lol dude stop saying the same thing as other people.

Good lord i stepped away for a few minutes then came back and couldn't even recognize foreman anymore, that is one of the biggest knots i have ever seen on his for head.

@Treebot1

4 жыл бұрын

Well hasim Rahman after his fight with Evander Holyfield would like to have a word with you

Sorry, George. Axel had this one, and you know it.

COULD NOT LOVE GEORGE FORMAN MORE, GOD BLESS HIM FOREVER; BUT THIS GERMAN KID BEAT GEORGE!

@mr.sinjin-smyth

2 жыл бұрын

Foreman landed more punches... 249 against Schulz's 229. Compare that to the Morrison fight... in which Morrison landed more... 260 to Foreman's 225. Schulz didn't do enough to convince the judges.

@exclamationpointman3852

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.sinjin-smyth if thats the punch count that matters

1 of the best fights my oh my

The *PunchStats* don't lie: this was a close fight. Foreman did have an edge for the first half of the fight. Schultz came back and was the better boxer in the second half of the fight. Overall, Schultz won the fight.

@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692

2 жыл бұрын

Punch stats don't dictate the outcome of a decision, there are more factors. And total punches are irrelevant, as it's on a round per round basis. Schulz forced Foreman to fight his fight, that's one. He controlled the flow of the fight. It was Foreman's job to cut him off and corner him, which he didn't and couldn't do. EFFECTIVE aggression is another, so while Foreman was the aggressor, he wasn't effective.

@cockoffgewgle4993

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692 How did Schulz force Foreman to fight his fight when Schulz completely changed his style to adapt to Foreman? lol. Foreman landed more punches and punched harder. It was a draw for me.

@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692

Жыл бұрын

@@cockoffgewgle4993 Because that's what good fighters do. If you know your own style is going to get you sparked out, you'd be an idiot to fight that way, no? Morrison also adapted his style for Foreman, so there wouldn't be a worse repeat of the Mercer fight.

@cockoffgewgle4993

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692 Yeah, so Foreman forced those fighters to fight his fight lol.

@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692

Жыл бұрын

@@cockoffgewgle4993 No. He did not. For one they came into the fight already using that strategy, and two even if they had adapted it DURING the fight, this would only mean that they're of higher caliber, since not everyone can adapt to the opponent mid fight. If Foreman was forcing them to fight HIS fight, that'd mean he gets to do what he wants to do, planned to do and trained to do. Aka pummel them with his heavy hands, corner them, etc. Which is not what happened. The both went with stick and move, in and out. Except Morrison is far more athletic than Schulz and the harder puncher, and thus he could linger in the danger zone more and get off more punches. Schulz is slower (both hand speed and overall movement), not as powerful and thus had less overall output, but he still mostly got to fight the way HE and his team wanted him to fight. While it wasn't as clear cut as Morrison vs Foreman, it was still his fight. You're just a casual who doesn't understand boxing/fighting. Or maybe a fanboy? Just like Foreman was gifted a decision here, for boxing politics and monetary reasons, Foreman was then returned the "favor" by losing an arguably gifted decision to Briggs.

The most OUTRAGEOUS ROBBERY in the history of professional Boxing! Foreman took the CLEANEST ass-whuppin' I've ever seen, and Axel Schulz WON THE TITLE easily by overwhelming Unanimous Decision! I saw the fight in Berlin Germany, and ALL my German friends were SOUR AS HELL! George should have relinquished the title out of respect for Boxing.

@nikosvault

2 жыл бұрын

Don't be mad. It would have been a worthless win anyway. Lewis, Holyfield and even Tyson were all better than both of these fighters in the mid-90's Nobody cared about Shannon Briggs after beating Foreman for the lineal championship in 97.

Alex hätte den Sieg verdient gehabt! Es war ein sehr enger Fight. Das Problem war, dass in der USA geboxt wurde,... Und das Georg Foreman um einiges älter war wie Axel und der Champ war Axel Schulz hatte dennoch sein bestes geben und es war sein leidenschaftlichester Kampf

For those of us who were around and watching, there was an obvious change in the way Larry Merchant approached the subject of Big George. As he went from a laughable, fat, & largely disliked man, to the champion he later became for a second time. His image changed too, and we saw an evolution to how boxing journalists approached the topic. From the first fights in 87’-largely jokes- to the pounding he took in 92’ from Evander Holyfield. Then he got a shot, a shot he certainly hadn’t earned, but was a bid draw. The champ he beat, Michael Moore, wasn’t an exciting heavyweight. He had a contentious relationship with the press and his ego maniac of a trainer, Teddy Atlas. Alas, suddenly a slow recognition came that George had left his Mark in a way no one else ever will.

@alyoshaty8823

Жыл бұрын

Nice paragraph John.

@onequickthing8950

Жыл бұрын

It was fixed. Don King needed a pretty face.

@casualxxgamerxx9662

Жыл бұрын

Merchant is a moron and disrespects just about every fighter with no unique insight whatsoever. Just another skip bayless

@martincurran6432

11 ай бұрын

​@@onequickthing8950 King and Foreman did not work together at all. How was George winning a good thing for Don King? Considering how DK was never his promoter and GF always disliked the man

@danyoutube7491

6 ай бұрын

He took a pounding against Holyfield but he dealt a lot of hurtful punches in return, and in the last round Holyfield was grabbing onto Foreman and trying to stop George from punching, which Foreman was still trying to do while being held onto when the final bell sounded. It was a hard fight for Holyfield.

George Foreman was surely relieved upon hearing the decision. If what he claimed were true, that Shulz lost because he ran, than how would he explain the Morrison decision? In any case, it was a great fight.

@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692

2 жыл бұрын

Morrison was a potential gold mine, Schulz wasn't. I think Schulz won too, but Boxing can be very dirty.

@SmokeRiderSessions

2 жыл бұрын

If Shultz ran how did George get them busted up eyes

im a huge foreman fan. and ive never heard of this fight. this axel dude got robbed but it was a close fight. george put his head down when the bell rang at the end of 12 and axel raised his hands... he knew he lost.

Whats the song „Hero of the night“?

Whew...that was a rough one.

Thats why the Knockout is so important so as to not to leave it to the judges.

Anyone know the music piece at the beginning?

George got whipped like he stole something!

@GoldDiamondJewelsGDJ-mu9hn

4 жыл бұрын

The judges liked George's aggression,there's no way the judges would let you win when the other guy has to literally run after you to make the fight happen so even by the time Shultz got his punches in the judges factored his lack of aggression and not making the fight as George not only walked towards him he ran towards him to cause a fight. George's fighting style of constant aggression and Shultz"s running worked against him. So no George's aggression no fight, so actually the judges had it right.

The commentators always trash George's style. What he proves time and time again is that all you need is; Hands and heart. Cheers George.

I scored it 115-113 for George. He won the first 6 rounds, and round 11...

George got his ass kicked but they gave the fight to George. Axel won

THE FIRST OLDEST BOXER IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY.

I love how the audio has been run through a bit crusher

you have the full event?

George Forman is a real legend !

@orestes1984

Жыл бұрын

I remember this fight, Axel Schulz on the night was a far better boxer than the American audience gave him credit for.

Imagine if someone had taught Schulz to turn his punches over properly....

Axel Schulz did a great job and won eight rounds. He even won the 12th and had George looking busted up. Another clear Las Vegas boxing robbery

Contrary to popular myth, in no way shape or form did Schulz deserve the win in this fight. I viewed a high quality tape of the entire fight on the slowest motion setting with the volume turned off. That way I didn't have to listen to commentators Gil Clancy and Jim Lampley rave in awe for all those shots by Schulz that did not find their target. For the record, I had Foreman clearly winning rounds 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, and 11. 115/113 just as two of the three judges scored it. Even Larry Merchant, who in the past had poked fun at George, especially in the Holyfield and Alex Stewart fights, the former of which he called a "massacre" by Holyfield and the latter a "one point" win for Stewart had George winning here. Just because Schulz, an unknown who was giving little to no chance of winning and exceeded expectations does not mean he deserved to win. All that grappling and grunting by Schulz in close does not make his offense more effective. Foreman frequently drove Axel back with those jabs. Schulz spent much of the fight circling and back-peddling. He was largely ineffective having to throw from a distance so when he did manage to land his punches lacked effect as they barely made contact. Foreman landed the more authoritative punches with solid jabs and body shots and the occasional but very effective uppercut.

@tlig

4 жыл бұрын

Schulz beat Foreman up.

@richardharrison859

4 жыл бұрын

@@tlig nah

@tomglenn5241

4 жыл бұрын

To say that any nationality of fighter is smarter is conjecture. If Germans are smarter, than why has only one German won the championship? Also there have been many fights where the smarter fighter lost. George is a very smart fighter and he was right to go for the points and in my opinion, that's what won the fight for him. I am one who believes a boxer must take the belt away convincingly.

@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomglenn5241 Because almost nobody boxes here. We've had champs in other divisions, but boxing isn't popular here. Boxing couldn't even survive here, if it wasn't for the pimps and brothel owners investing in the sport to keep it alive.

@omalone1169

Жыл бұрын

@@tomglenn5241 why 11 instead of 12 that is the question ?

Foreman is a legend and the biggest puncher in boxing. 45-48 yrs old was heavyweight champion

sometimes its hard to understand that not all punches thrown and landed carry the same weight. Foreman even at his age had more power in his left jab alone than most would have in their best straight cross or hook. and in this you can see him land that punch consistently along with some clubbing bodyshots. also for those not use to foreman it is easy to see his flailing arms while the other guys is punching and assume george is getting hit repeatedly, however the truth is that some of those shots are being blocked by those same arm flailing motions that make foreman look like a man in distress. and finally, the commentary team have said it repeatedly, foreman's skin is more prone to bruising and swelling because of his age so any damage he seems to be accumulating can be misleading based on that fact. i saw Foreman winning rounds 2, 3, (Axel did try to steal them in the last 30 seconds though) 4, 6, 9, 11 and the 12th can be debatable (foreman controlled the first 2:30, but schulz had some big shots towards the end)

Shultz may not have been an all time great but he won that fight on that night. Despite what the three blind mice had to say.

Big George is one of my favorite and toughest people every on planet earth, but this was a horrible decision

@omalone1169

Жыл бұрын

Please score the fight

@MrBri0523

11 ай бұрын

Lol you sound just like other comments.

Ya, I have to agree. Schultz fought the fight of his life. He deserved to win.

Whats the name of Axel's intro song ?

George clearly got beaten here. But then again he too was robbed against Shannon Briggs.

George lost to a great fighter even as a foreman fan I can say he lost this fight much like the Morrison fight. Why didn't people try fighting George like this more? Maybe training sticking and moving is hard, honestly I don't know.

In this night Fairness in Sport dies....and money wins...shame on USA

You have to at least knock down a dude to take away a belt from someone and give it to someone else!

When a championship fight is close on the score cards and/or measuring performances value of the fight, I will 10/10 times go to the "Unofficial Traditional Champion's rule"; In order for a challenger to take the title crown from a respected world champion, especially a active legend status, the challenger can't win by small margins but must defeat the champion by a knock-out our performing an out-boxing classed fight where the dominance is VERY clear and the doubts are non. For this fight we have this "rule". If the challenger is prior the fight not a proven and highly regarded contender, then the "rule" is twice its power in effect! Axel Schulz deserve credit for being a better boxer then everyone believed as he proved this night he can box with the best. However to "beat the best" was not answered and did not go those extra miles needed to take away a legend's title. Big George Foreman won by a MD and retained his world title (Lineal/IBF/WBU). Foreman landed 249 of 543 punches - Schulz landed 229 of 482. Foreman landed slightly more, but Schulz had a slightly higher accuracy percentage (92%). Both are important, but who was more effective? The problem is Schulz's percentage of landed hits is not significantly higher than Foreman's. In fact, Foreman's amount of punches landed is a tad more impressive than Schulz's percentage of softer landed hits. Schulz landed 229 hits of Foreman's 249 hits. While Foreman's percentage of landed hits is 96.5% of Schulz's percentage of landed hits.

Watched this fight with friends. All of us big George Foreman fans, but we knew Schulz would never get a decision against George in Vegas, what a shame Axel Schulz fought brilliantly and clearly won the fight! George’s swelled up face, sunglasses and body language tell the story. Never like to see any fighter get ripped off!

@fjccommish

Жыл бұрын

No, George clearly won. What fight were you watching?

@shenmuefreak1980

Жыл бұрын

@@fjccommish nice joke 🤣 you should come back to reality, Axel won this Fight clearly. That what happend on April 2019 in Munich/Germany says everything! "then IBF Director and IBF Ratings Chairman Anibal Miramontes stepped forward. Miramontes, who was holding the red IBF Champions Belt, took the microphone and said to Axel Schulz that, 24 years after this misjudgment from Las Vergas, he had brought the IBF World Championship belt with him to Munich and this one would now like to present to him"

@fjccommish

Жыл бұрын

@@shenmuefreak1980 That was a stunt. Go away with this blather.

@shenmuefreak1980

Жыл бұрын

@@fjccommish you're a funny guy 🤣 The IBF officially talks from misjudgment at this Fight that's the point! you're still wearing your pink glasses stay in your dreams that will be the best for you

@fjccommish

Жыл бұрын

@@shenmuefreak1980A re-assessment decades later isn't valid. Foreman won the fight. PER I OD.

I hesitate between thumbing up or thumbing down. Up, to show my gratitude for the upload. Down, to show my disgust at the judges' decision...

Big George the legend

@solidcake3401

5 жыл бұрын

The bum

@PanfishingJournal

4 жыл бұрын

He is a legend, but he lost this was a robbery.

@Dom-fx4kt

3 жыл бұрын

He is a legend no doubt, but in this fight Schulz was robbed.

@Pauly421

3 жыл бұрын

@@solidcake3401 Calling Foreman a bum is just laughable. Arguably the most devastating puncher in boxing history and one of the best jabs ever

1:44:20 “George looked like a dancing bear in there” lol

@James-th7wb

3 жыл бұрын

😂 That kind of comment would get you cancelled in this time. George is like a brown bear wearing boxing gloves.

@herzkine

2 жыл бұрын

...not the only time in this fight...

This is the third time I watch this fight and each time it looks more and more like a horrible decision.

foreman paid the IBF 250k bucks to get the Schulz fight, so you can only imagine how much he paid the judges...

Guys if u don’t think George won just go back and count the points. Can’t argue with them, George’s famous jab really won the fight here

@greenstrawberryghost4435

3 жыл бұрын

Money won the fight

@Baso-sama

Ай бұрын

@@greenstrawberryghost4435 let me guess, a soreass german?

So why didnt tyson accept george foremans challenge if he could easily beat george?

@issizplays2187

3 жыл бұрын

He would be KO`ed. Because his style would not work aganist Foreman. Foreman would do same thing he did to Fraizer.

TELL ME ROMERO DOESNT LOOK LIKE THE LITTLE FIGHTER FROM "MIKE TYSON PUNCHOUT VIDEO GAME"!!😂😊

Great fight

What is the name of the song of Axel Schulz ring walk???

@detlevonameln5497

4 ай бұрын

1995 sang Schwarzhaupt vor dem Boxkampf zwischen Axel Schulz und George Foreman in Las Vegas das Lied = Hero of the Night

Great Run

cool. thank you...

George Foreman ist eine Legende des Boxsports aber Axel Schultz ist der klare Sieger in diesem Kampf!!!

They are the best HBO

And people still believe that Mike Tyson was afraid of George and would have lost to him had they fought at this point in time (in 1995)!

@jacobh7188

3 жыл бұрын

Styles make fights and Axel's style was all wrong for Foreman. Tyson's style is tailor made for foreman. I still believe foreman would've beaten Tyson like a drum.

@kingdomofanimaria

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobh7188 how do you see prime foreman vs axel

I'm reading so many, "I'm a Foreman fan, but Schultz won." Clearly, you're no Foreman fan as it was a close fight.

George got his ass whooped in this one. Period.

@omalone1169

Жыл бұрын

1:20:00 check it