Creating a tile ranking and not including the OP infinite Z-wall

@therealshumbucket

2 жыл бұрын

fr scott cmon man

@ScottJund

2 жыл бұрын

imagine thinking im going to teach people how strong the z wall is. the ignorance of the community is the only reason the game somewhat works

@feelshagman822

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScottJund The world must KNOW!

@Andimanize

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and let's put a military fighter jet on a ranking of best paper planes. Think, man, THINK.

@dodang_9147

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScottJund you missed 2 other loops. one of them is like a pallet with a window that is like jagged maze, it usually spawns on Yamako estate and that Oni King of hill map and the other is Ormond jungle gym. Red forest locker tile is just safe 4 wall. just loop twice around tile and drop pallet. just another safe/god pallet that wastes your time lie coldwind farm loop. I'd say that all pallets that be looped twice with pallet drop into hold W are strong and all tiles that cannot be braindead looped are high-skill loops that nobody uses because they're weak compare to the braindead loops.

1:00 - TL Wall (D) 2:33 - Four Lanes (C) 4:29 - "It's Not Quite a Jungle Gym. It's Just Kinda of a Tile, Like This..." (C) 6:02 - Jungle Gym (B) 7:54 - Shack (A) 12:48 - Generic Loop (A+) 15:04 - Ormond/Yamaoka/Red Forest Loops (aSajlksYA&sh2il8h) 15:43 - Long Wall Jungle Gym (S)

@LordMorltha

2 жыл бұрын

The 6:02 tile (which I call an Alt-Wall, due to it being an alternate version of a long wall) is way stronger than Scott is giving it credit for. Because the Survivor can fast vault the window from inside the gym, the Killer has no correct way of running it. Devs need to make that wall *slightly* longer.

@ScottJund

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordMorltha You can fast vault from the inside but you have to take an angle that makes you lose a small bit of distance. im not even saying its weak, its very strong, just less strong than long walls

“But then we’d be here for 17 hours.” Otzdarva: “Fine, I’ll do it myself.”

The best tiles are actually found in Raccoon City Police Department, it's so good the devs disabled the map so that you can't step on it.

@quinnewen8103

2 жыл бұрын

“Disabled the map” yet I get this map at least twice a day.. I don’t really get how that works

@clarkesteinman5098

2 жыл бұрын

@@quinnewen8103 I have never gotten it once, and I’ve been playing a lot throughout the event and since the RE update. I know people diss on it, but I’d prefer to have my own experiences and form my own opinions.

@Flakehandler

2 жыл бұрын

@@quinnewen8103 it was re-enabled recently

@Impalingthorn

2 жыл бұрын

My friends are getting it but I haven't been. What i find odd is that it is still enabled, but they disabled the Offering for it.

@Sledgemoma

2 жыл бұрын

@@quinnewen8103 I literally got the offering in a blood web. Went to put it on cause I haven’t played the map and it wasn’t there… so yeah the map basically doesn’t exist

Honestly I would love a 17 hour scott video talking about every tile

@dangleeballsii8034

2 жыл бұрын

I would listen to Scott talk for 17 hours about literally anything

@mecklart9881

2 жыл бұрын

Otz probably working on one. He takes every opportunity to create a video that reaches the 10 minute mark -.-

@ilyrich

2 жыл бұрын

@@mecklart9881 you’re saying that like his videos aren’t filled with content though?

@prohikikomo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilyrich dude its a joke

@prohikikomo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilyrich it's literally a joke where people say "Haha stretching for the 10 minutes mark!" Do you even watch his videos or read the comments?

"Hello friends, this is Otz (according to my lawyers) and I have spent many hours running every single tile in the game with a group of my friends and today we will rank all of them"

@overprime3978

2 жыл бұрын

“We ran shack on every map 5 times to make sure!”

“That’d be 17 hours” Don’t challenge otz with that

Teacher: "Excuse my art, I'm not an artist" The teacher's art:

@spiritorange8325

2 жыл бұрын

What are you trying to say?

@iAmerica1776

2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritorange8325 math teachers can't draw for shit

@kappasike

2 жыл бұрын

Sup Merlin

Before watching this i already know that the random walls at the boarders of the map are s tier, anyone that disagress is a dog at this game

@soulsy4384

2 жыл бұрын

@Krioque god people complaining about how other people talk

@the-uh2ur

2 жыл бұрын

@Krioque why are you so mad

@arshadzaidi4667

2 жыл бұрын

@@the-uh2ur He's trolling.

@soulsy4384

2 жыл бұрын

@Krioque you good?

@doublevision2943

2 жыл бұрын

At low Ranks you'll ALWAYS have the Survivors run to those boarder tiles just to go down within 1 second and they'll do it over and over again until they die lmao. Can't blame them because I did the same when I was new because you expect there to be ANYTHING but there's literally nothing but air. Honestly it kind of sucks that this game is so reliant on repetitive loops, my least favourite map is Shelter Woods and apart from the tiles mentioned by Scott the whole map is a literal deadzone. Yes I guess there are very few pallets with 2 rocks on either side but everything else is nothing but dead and it's so annoying because you're basically teaching players to just play the exact same way every single game, every single chase and I have no idea how people don't get bored of that, best newbie hint for chases is to always go to those tiles, never anywhere else because you'll always end up in a deadzone. Another negative of having the whole chase-part of the game revolving around the same loops on every match is that the more experienced player will basically always win out since they've had every possible situation a million times already while the newer player hasn't seen anything yet in comparison. If tiles were just a bit more random - while also being balanced - this would not be as big of an issue for newcomers and they might not quit the game 3 games in after running into deadzones and dying every time or having experienced survivors at low ranks running them on strong tiles for 5 hours.

"I was gonna go over every time but that video would be 17 hours long" Otzdarva: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN

Z-wall was way too op to even be mentioned

@KommissarBanx

2 жыл бұрын

I’m like a minute in and I was eagerly awaiting Z-wall lmao. Disappointing but I’m here for the whole ride anyways

0:44 "I don't see the problem."- NotOtz

Imagine T L wall in combo with 3 other T L walls together. Suffocation pit can be dumb sometimes because of it lol

@holyelixir4580

2 жыл бұрын

It works well on suffocation pit because they're so close together. However getting nothing but T L's on Shelter woods is weak

@mox7077

2 жыл бұрын

I got a coal tower where every single tile was a TL guess what we lost cause there were a total and I counted 5 pallets on the entire map

@rexx3835

2 жыл бұрын

I had that connect to shack, it made me hopeless that game lol

@jamescarrotcsl8

2 жыл бұрын

I think half t l and half long walls would be stronger

@quarterknight3572

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes RNG is generous to killer...other times it's to survivor

how am i able to see this LOL

@artyom1792

2 жыл бұрын

human eye

@tragedythetragedy5015

2 жыл бұрын

youtube platform>scottjund>video

@deery05

2 жыл бұрын

What happens in the future?

@fallsblack4097

2 жыл бұрын

you have a gift

@chm770

2 жыл бұрын

wtf

I definitely agree on the s and a tiles but the 4I wall actually is pretty strong if looped well. I might be wrong but I am pretty sure that the window of the 4I wall can spawn on the outside wall, which basically makes it a long wall and so it's pretty damn strong. Also t ls can waste a lot of time if the survivors patient enough. Jungle gym short walls also are pretty good. Especially if u try to confuse the killer. For example after u vaulted the window from the inside u can run to the right and go back in again to the spot where the window is. But instead of vaulting u can run around the wall in the moment the killer isn't able to see u. Then you'll end up at the window and the killer thinks you've run to the pallet Anyways good video once again

T L walls aren't that strong, but their still probably my favorite tiles to play I just find them really fun for some weird reason

@Sapreme

2 жыл бұрын

They used to be my favorite walls until i started playing killers that know how to run it and got hit every time lol It was so satisfying to watch new killers chase me until the windows are blocked when I was learning the tiles, it legit felt like an infinite from the killers perspectives

@zacharybecker8228

2 жыл бұрын

I hate them as m1 killers cus it just comes down to a 50/50 and u can guess wrong a few times in a row but so can the survivor

@Sapreme

2 жыл бұрын

@@zacharybecker8228 You dont have to guess as killer, you can just brute force pretty much anytime. Even if you try to mindgame, the cost is minimal if you guess wrong because they cant go anywhere. Are you maybe trying to mindgame at the T wall instesd of the L wall?

@Cause023

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sapreme yes, I can play at green ranks but once I get to purple, killers mindgame the fuck outta me. Like they know what I'm thinking before I even know what I'm thinking

@feedthemeat543f

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cause023 Ironically I do far worse against killers that don't mindgame. Like usually you can wait around a corner and potentially see what their doing, or you can just run away from the tile. Not much you can do about a bubba with a one track mind to fucking murder you. No mindgames, just go

When talking about shack, I wish you would have mentioned the usefulness of the extremely long wall with no window. You can sit at the corner across from where the lockers would be inside and no matter which way the killer comes you can loop back inside for a fast vault. You don't even have to sit at the corner if you don't want to because some shacks have huge holes in the wall to see through anyways. Good video!

Scott's description 2021: oh god i have to dust my mixer

I love how Scott just nonchalantly calls his cat a fat bitch

The tiles gave me ptsd from playing killer.

Interesting, I feel like I can loop TL walls almost indefinitely. There are guesses, yes but most times if I get the vault they can't catch up. Definitely doesn't feel like a D to me. I literally seek them out.

@destindarksoul

2 жыл бұрын

lets me loop without using the pallets that my potato teammates will need later 😅

Idk how you come out with such good videos everyday

Scott, might I make a suggestion to addendum? Tile Connections - such as that long "infinite" pallet loop on Farm Maps that lead into either a T/L Wall/Shack Window/Jungle Gym Window. It could be very educational for the young Survivors out there to learn how to "not" waste a pallet if you can, instead, waste time with a window.

TL walls are severely underrated. They are probably the best tile to be able to chain tiles together, they are reusable (i.e. there is no pallet therefore it never becomes weaker), and survivors can peak around the corner to see what the killer will do before they vault, giving them a huge advantage.

@MrSleepyhead32

2 жыл бұрын

T L walls are great against chainsaw killers too and Oni having so many tight corners to turn has to play the tile without his dash.

so main building and houses ranking when?

Showed up to learn, ended up learning and seeing a cute bean. Thanks for the great video bro!

you've heard of honey I shrunk the kids, now there's the hit sequel 7:42

Imagine if Scott's drawings were actually what l and t walls looked like

Scott has those vascular forearms tho 😳

The cat at the end really is the cherry on top

You don't wanna do a 17 hours video? Otz would do it you know. Don't feign weakness my man.

@akichingchongchang8647

2 жыл бұрын

Otz would also defend stuff like the linked cosmetics lmaoo

@RecentCobra

2 жыл бұрын

@@akichingchongchang8647 Ok, and?

@Don11037

2 жыл бұрын

@@RecentCobra which is a bad take

@RaffoPhantom

2 жыл бұрын

@@akichingchongchang8647 Bruh this was just a funny quip.

You know what you should rank Scott? The armies of the former-Yugoslav countries.

Im glad the titles are improving

*insert generic z-wall joke here*

If house of pain was generic it would’ve been triple S tier

but the hill is so strong for survivors because it makes the killer take 29 YEARS to get to the hook on it.

That slipknot S fail at the end haha

15:07 ‘Next we have God’ First we had God Pallet, now we straight up have God. Good luck with that tile Atheists

i feel better when i know that even scott doesnt know how to run the eldritch abominations in ormond and yamaoka

You forgot the ones on maps like yamaoka where there’s a long wall with a window and a long wall opposite the window wall and there’s like a big rock thing with bamboo in the middle of the 2 walls and it has a pallet. They are pretty strong

@potatoweaver4116

2 жыл бұрын

yeah I notice that too, those tiles actually spawn on Red Forest and Ormond too, but you know the bamboo is replaced with something else.

@cutmeloosebruce1955

2 жыл бұрын

im pretty sure thats the tile where he just didnt rate it because he said he doesnt even know how to run it...

@potatoweaver4116

2 жыл бұрын

@@cutmeloosebruce1955 no it's a different tile, the long C wall is different from the cluster fuck tile he was talking about. However they spawn in the same realms.

Shack is pretty strong, but I think the reputation comes from the fact that it just completely shuts down killers who aren’t good at mindgames and moonwalking, so intermediate players find it OP. I remember back when I was learning and shack basically felt like the safe zone of the map. If they’re a good killer, it’s just a god palette where you can force them to break it, guaranteeing a little bit of time late game.

Itd be great to see Scott ranking every type of tile on each map. Game is going to have all s tiers

Remember back when Shack had two windows and no entity-blocker? "Good" times. "Good" times.

@acasualknight

2 жыл бұрын

Remember back when God bus survived the initial infinites nerf?

@lagua5363

2 жыл бұрын

remember back when LT walls had palets XD

@FriedrichTheGreatest

2 жыл бұрын

@@acasualknight it's still an infinite if you Shift Tech

This is crazy, I was literally just looking for a video about tilesets. What a coincidence

Really helpful video Ty scott

A few days later: Otz ranks every single possible generation in the game in a 17 hour video.

Liked this. Next video, do this with main buildings :)

Could you do a video rating the "main building" tiles. I know for sure the Strode House is a fat S tier, as it has 2 completely safe windows.

Couldn't agree more on longwall. I feel so strong as survivor in this tile this is definitely my favorite jungle gym. And as a huntress / blight main as killer I love it too because they are very decent at using the pallet very quickly on these too

Scott you forget the grim pantry 2 in 1 jungle gym thats a basic jungle gym mixed with a long wall jungle gym, that tile is S+++ tier

@Big_Bird_Abelardo

2 жыл бұрын

also the mcmillan doble TL walls combined with a long wall jungle gym

@ScottJund

2 жыл бұрын

the pier double jungle gym isnt a generic tile

scoot having thousands of hours in the game struggling to remember the most common tiles in the game makes me laugh for some reason

ike this if scott puts the z-wall infinite at the top

scott jund, the MS paint master

"I like shack" I like shaq too, he's a cool guy

Actually, seeing all the ways you would play the hill would be interesting

The swamp has jungle gyms with a pallet and both the long AND short wall windows but I don't think anyone except us swamp lovers know it exists????

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Scott Jund got Spund!

Sad those times from Ormond/Yamaoka/Red Forest didn’t get included. Similar to long walls but both walls around the window curve in and the pallet around a bush loop. Did that make sense? 🧐

thats a good looking chonky bean you got there

I felt that part about the tile on ormond and yamaoka haha

At long walls once the survivor vaults the window fake going round the side of the wall and then vault the window, most survivors will hang around the window to see which way you’re going to go and won’t expect the vault. This then closes the gap and forces them to either take a medium vault which results in a hit or they have to drop the pallet depending on which way they choose to go.

The tile that you skipped over from Yamaoka are also on Ormond, I honestly feel that they're comparable to long wall jungle gyms. The window is on a farely long wall that you can fast vault from either direction from inside. The pallet isn't as safe but can still be used well if the killer doesn't break it.

Ah yes, my favorite tile, Cross L

You forgot the Pale Rose God Log. My favourite palletless loop.

@Noname72105

2 жыл бұрын

Someone who knows how to run the pog log is enough to make me just give up.

If you guess correctly as killer on the long wall gym window vault, don't you get a free hit or the pallet? This tile basically as strong as shack but it's S because there can be so many spawns of them, is that right?

That god tier ending

what about the springwood/autohaven/haddonfield Car pallet loops? I love those, the mind game and greeding potential is pretty good but once the pallets down it is super unsafe.

Scott thinking he can hide the Z wall from us

I keep on seeing his guitar and now I kinda wanna see him play it

You forgot the labyrinth ones on ormond and yamaoka (not the 4 long walls variant with lockers, the ones where you dont know wtf is going on amd suddenly you find the pallet or a dead end)

What about those long C wall structures that spawn on Ormond, Yamaoka, and Red Forest? You know the ones that have a pallet, and then a vault on a C shaped wall. It's a different loop from the one you described in the video, but spawns on the same maps. Considering it shows up in multiple realms I would consider it a generic tile. I never hear people talk about them, but they seem pretty good.

13:25 I think you also see this style of structure a lot on Temple of Purgation. Usually with a other one right next to it.

@Scott Jund You should do tile rankings per map so you'd have a bunch of videos but around this length.

FYI/tip: at 7:30 you dont even need that much of an angle to get a fast vault in that tile, just run a bit wide/near the pallet wall and you'll be able to get the fast vault by just going straight

Scott you forgot in every single one the random hit,huntress hatchet,Bubba chainsaw, nurse blink, nemesis thing or zombie, demo shred, doctor shock, hag/trapper trap, spirt's phase, traffic cones line of death, death slinger gun, oni dash, hill Billy chainsaw, wraith speed boost, blight rush,plauge red puke, and clown bottle,.

15:26 thats also what i see when i run into loops especially if the survivor im chasing doesnt die right away lol the IRL Bloodlust kicks in

HAHAHAHA I can definitely relate to not being able to remember the red forest gym despite playing this game for 4 years

I have a video idea for you scott. Design your own unique tile's for dbd. What would be the perfect balance of survivor/killer sided. I personally think that a tile, with a pallet, with two walls on both sides, one shorter in height, and one tall in height would be unique (distance to pallet remains the same.) With a wall opposite the pallet, with a window directly opposite the pallet. : (---------Pallet______) (_____Window-------) Total length across : 8m or so (shack length) Total length vertical : 5m or so (pallet is close to the window, but not as close as 4 walls) Kinda like this ^ The opposing heights on the walls, with lower walls, allows them to be stronger/weaker against normal killers run around, (because you can see over them and mindgame) But ranged killers make that side unsafe (huntress, deathslinger etc) The window allows one to vault out strongly, likely chained into other things (hopefully with dbd's spaghetti code, into a lesser tile) And its total strength is high, but playing the loop can go many different ways depending on the side you enter from, and how you loop around it. A variant of said loop could also look like this : (---------Pallet______) Gen (_____Window-------) This one would arguably stop the fast vault out of the loop, similarly to a shack with a generator in it, but play similarly to an open shack in nature. Other variants could open or close the walls on the sides's by a bit (similar to long walls/L wall T walls, (---------Pallet______) ( ) - ("wall hook") (_____Window-------) This type would arguably be far far stronger, in nature, and i'd honestly suggest this variant having dual pallets, but way shorter walls. ie having two unsafe, or very easily mindgameable pallets right next to each other to form a stronger loop. Throwing one of the pallets would make it far safer, and essentially turn it into an easily destroyed jungle gym, but then you only have an unsafe pallet to work with, so the skill would come into play by not throwing either of the two unsafe pallets too early, leaving the killer open room to mindgame and attempt to actually play the loop. etc etc. Could also raise the walls on one side (so either the pallet or the window has the high wall) or reverse the sides that are high vs low.

Main building rankings

1:30 in im crying at your drawing of this TL😂😂😂😂

That's what I see in those Yamaoka tiles, as well. They're a mess.

Nurse mains: “all the tiles are actually D tier, Scott has finally snapped”

@soulsy4384

2 жыл бұрын

well what tiles? never seen those when playing nurse smh

Scott do a video on the boon hexes and if it would be good for the game or not.

Easy way to fix the long wall jungle gym is to move the window closer to the L portion (like an L wall) and it's harder to play just the window. It'll still be strong because of the Pallet but it will not be as punishing

dont want to make this full video because itll be too long? call the otzdarva

What about the strong tile in yamaoka and ormond that has a really safe pallet next to a long wall with a vault?

That's great and all Scott, but where is a log tile from the swamp?

@hanma3291

2 жыл бұрын

now we wait for Otz' 17 hr vod

When it comes to map specific loops i would like to add long fences on Haddonfield.

"This video is from the survivor. Pout of view"

"it's not quite a jungle gym" *draws a long wall, a pallet and a short wall* I wonder what that one is called xD

You forgot to mention how new survivors just say fuck Shack and throw the pallet immediately

you have another type of (technically) jungle gym on red forest/yamaoka/ormond that is very similar to a long wall jungle gym with a slightly unsafer pallet.

How would you rank long walls if they were limited in how many could spawn like other strong tiles?

Forgot about the god tier car/truck loops

Scott "survivor-sided" Jund at it again

“Hill is F tier” Me who runs balanced landing:

Scott make a tier list of all the main buildings in each map plz daddy

18:40 u can still pretty easily angle ur fast vaults from that side, in my experience on both roles the better option is to force them to take that zig zag fast vault especially on the dum new cold wind long walls it can be rlly difficult for noobs and decent survs to angle that shit

scott failing to do the S is painful

As sometime who has never played this game, I've always wondered what some of these tiles looked like, I hear TL or Jungle Gym and have to guess based on twitchy gameplay footage