Analyzing the 1v1 Cowshed Winner - Dead by Daylight

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i dont even know who this is but they rolled me
/ scottjund

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  • @MaxxDW
    @MaxxDW5 ай бұрын

    When someone has 1v1 or a heart in their name they're either the worst player or the best player in any given match

  • @mrcasual9557

    @mrcasual9557

    5 ай бұрын

    It's a broken heart😢💔

  • @anthvyk

    @anthvyk

    5 ай бұрын

    He is taking his anger playin the game for thousands of hours

  • @EsperagonChannel

    @EsperagonChannel

    5 ай бұрын

    So what you're saying is if I put heart in my name I'll become better? I certainly can't become worse.

  • @Myramid7

    @Myramid7

    5 ай бұрын

    1v1rocket goated

  • @rabbidguarddog

    @rabbidguarddog

    5 ай бұрын

    Instructions unclear, I put a heart on my name and now Charlotte and Victor won't let me to home 😢.

  • @rabbidguarddog
    @rabbidguarddog5 ай бұрын

    Survivor: has their gaze at approximately a 45° angle towards the window. Scott: 😮

  • @kaakeli222

    @kaakeli222

    5 ай бұрын

    You can definetely tell a lot by when survivor is looking back. Just compare this to a random Leon only holding W

  • @rabbidguarddog

    @rabbidguarddog

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kaakeli222 no leon put that W down THIS INSTANT.

  • @calasay2688
    @calasay26885 ай бұрын

    Okay now analyze the worst time

  • @ethankrieger1210

    @ethankrieger1210

    5 ай бұрын

    “So as you can see here they allowed the knife to make contact with their body, a situation that you should avoid at all costs”.

  • @mrdardon3463

    @mrdardon3463

    5 ай бұрын

    Probably a Meg who tried to vault the shack window and ended up jumping into the locker instead.

  • @squalltheonly

    @squalltheonly

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mrdardon3463 So a console player? LOL

  • @RayOSA
    @RayOSA5 ай бұрын

    I love this critical breakdown of what makes a good chase. I wish more content like this existed

  • @chu1chat783

    @chu1chat783

    5 ай бұрын

    Scott is really good at doing this!

  • @Name-ql7jf

    @Name-ql7jf

    5 ай бұрын

    Check out St1v1. He’s the current 1v1 world champ and has a YT channel

  • @viennasavage9110

    @viennasavage9110

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@chu1chat783 not really tbh. His qualifications only matter to PC players since ps4 don't get the same luxury, and his experience isn't the end all be all.

  • @antidreams

    @antidreams

    5 ай бұрын

    @@chu1chat783debatable, it’s not a very in depth analysis and the killer is not that good

  • @climaxtermalhadevin8000

    @climaxtermalhadevin8000

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Name-ql7jfSt1v1 isn’t the 1v1 world champ m8 what 😭😭 he has 1v1 tourney wins but for the actual 1v1 latter used by comp players has been won my Pedro aka sir pickle who plays on eternal… S1 and S2 1v1 ladder champ Steve isn’t even top 50

  • @bigbrainonimain9226
    @bigbrainonimain92265 ай бұрын

    I'd like to see the comparison between the average times of current cowshed and old cowshed to see how different it really is.

  • @erg1947

    @erg1947

    5 ай бұрын

    This cowshed would lose. He had some a few times that were 30 something seconds because they'd get hit at shack and have no nearby loop because of bad RNG, on old Cowshed those survivors would have had loops to drag it out longer.

  • @anettelma123

    @anettelma123

    5 ай бұрын

    this map has max 10 pallets I think, old cowshed had main and shack in two opposite corners, cowtree, tile near tile, it was really big and strong map for survivors

  • @Klinfran
    @Klinfran5 ай бұрын

    Scott is right about burning resources and ocasional safe pallets not being a problem (unless there are several linked which is something shouldnt happen and devs should look onto), you want those gone early on, especially around gen clusters. I think a mistake some people make with super safe tiles is abandoning chase when a survivor is reaching them, once a survivor goes there you have to force a drop or next chase the safe loop will still be there, if you force drop half safe ones even at the cost of 1 or 2 gens the chases will get exponentially easier and the pressure will escalate very fast.

  • @b3helit
    @b3helit5 ай бұрын

    Very beneficial chase, well played Knuffig and thanks for this analyzation Scott! Hope you the best.

  • @Technature7567

    @Technature7567

    5 ай бұрын

    Either way there's a 90% chance they will do everything they can to get your attention.

  • @conkerlive101
    @conkerlive1015 ай бұрын

    6:25 Scotts secret China identity is slipping.

  • @mowo_fb8119
    @mowo_fb81195 ай бұрын

    Would be interesting to have a version where Scott plays survivor and viewers must try to down him as soon as possible.

  • @Lirianta-
    @Lirianta-5 ай бұрын

    Scott still giving one of the best macro/micro knowledge content of dbd. This kind of videos is useful even for veteran players.

  • @wildtacocat
    @wildtacocat5 ай бұрын

    I hope you feel better soon Scott

  • @Name-ql7jf
    @Name-ql7jf5 ай бұрын

    Would love to see you bring in some bigger name 1v1ers, or even take a shot at the pro 1v1 ladder. Would be really cool to see the difference

  • @SlushFiend
    @SlushFiend5 ай бұрын

    knuffig is a german player, theyre also a really oppressive nurse main

  • @yogsulate9384
    @yogsulate93845 ай бұрын

    good example of why shortwall gyms are my favorite tile strong with a lot of options as survivor while still retaining counterplay as killer unlike longwall gyms

  • @dangernoodle3343
    @dangernoodle33435 ай бұрын

    Hey Scott, guys here

  • @watchmehope6560
    @watchmehope65605 ай бұрын

    Hey guys thats Scott jund and hes going to be doing a 1v1 in this video.

  • @Irondragon1945

    @Irondragon1945

    5 ай бұрын

    Whos Scott Jund

  • @raiden3295

    @raiden3295

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Irondragon1945 Ligma balls

  • @larsliamvilhelm
    @larsliamvilhelm5 ай бұрын

    This video made me realize how quickly you get bloodlust as killer now.

  • @MacaroniMan_

    @MacaroniMan_

    5 ай бұрын

    15s per tier with no power use or pallet breaking

  • @lesarXD

    @lesarXD

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@MacaroniMan_tier 1 is actually 10 seconds, the other 2 are 15

  • @MacaroniMan_

    @MacaroniMan_

    5 ай бұрын

    @@lesarXD looked on wiki was changed in past year it's tier 1: 15 tier 2: 25 tier 3: 35

  • @Nokronz
    @Nokronz5 ай бұрын

    For what its worth, I like your face Scott

  • @stevenobrien7686
    @stevenobrien76865 ай бұрын

    Man, sad that I missed this event. Hopefully I catch the next one.

  • @dawsonrudis4642
    @dawsonrudis46425 ай бұрын

    For that intro part of shack I like to double vault and really scare the survivor, also helps get a medium vault if they aren’t prepared.

  • @justjd9897

    @justjd9897

    5 ай бұрын

    Double vaults are waste of time depending on the killer. Certain killers have sound cues for when they vault. So I don’t to see you to know you’re vaulting, again depending on the killer

  • @mckookie2967
    @mckookie29675 ай бұрын

    Can we get a follow-up video explaining how this scenario is different from a regular DBD match? Some of these comments are wild

  • @devxro

    @devxro

    5 ай бұрын

    simplest way to explain is that a 1v1 is an isolated chase where the killer doesn't need to worry about potential body blockers or gen pressure. If this were a regular map, not only would the Nea have run him for at least half the generators (or all of them in this time, depends on what the 3 other survivors bring,) but at least one of those 3 survivors could be smart enough to try and bodyblock for the Nea and extend the chase further. Obviously if this were a regular match, Scott wouldn't chase her for 4+ minutes, but I think you get the point. 1v1s are a good way to learn how to loop both as killer and survivor, and teaches you how to connect tiles as well as preparing yourself for both good and bad map RNG.

  • @TiredCoffeeMug
    @TiredCoffeeMug5 ай бұрын

    I didn't even know this happened damn, hope I can join the next one if you ever decide on it

  • @maxomega3

    @maxomega3

    5 ай бұрын

    if you check the subscriptions page, his streams will show up when he's live since he started costreaming on youtube

  • @iPyroNigma
    @iPyroNigma5 ай бұрын

    I think with the tier 2 bloodlust popping up at 8:58, I would have just played for the tier 3. Although you risk the survivor forcing you to lose chase, I think that play could lead to a down in the next 30 seconds.

  • @luckyjazen8702
    @luckyjazen87025 ай бұрын

    Need more videos like this!!

  • @fabiopauli420
    @fabiopauli4205 ай бұрын

    Might be coincidence but Knuffig is one of the alt names a german streamer goes by, i forgot who it was exactly though

  • @mineshawn8960

    @mineshawn8960

    12 күн бұрын

    Cat

  • @lycceto
    @lycceto5 ай бұрын

    can't believe scott went and cashed in 99999999 points himself

  • @zxzolfo4114
    @zxzolfo41145 ай бұрын

    Basically in a situation like this, you down the nea and 5 gens popped and the exits are 99% with the other survivors all around you ready for the save and the subsequent bodyblocks.

  • @yaboy5228

    @yaboy5228

    5 ай бұрын

    Then dont chase a comp Nea for 5 minutes, if your scenario happens, you let it happen.

  • @icedregulah694

    @icedregulah694

    5 ай бұрын

    in a situation like this you find another survivor to hit LOL

  • @zxzolfo4114

    @zxzolfo4114

    5 ай бұрын

    @@yaboy5228 yeah because you immediately understand she is comp, you immediately find another survivor and that survivor immediately goes down. Scott isn't bad at all at chasing but if it happens that he has no ace in the sleeve (power, perks) and at the beginning find a survivor like this even for him it is difficult to come back. The first chase is SOO MUCH important. This is the reason why perks that gives you an advantage on the first chases may be very good like blood favour.

  • @Rufucchi

    @Rufucchi

    5 ай бұрын

    @@zxzolfo4114 As you said, Scott isn't bad at all at chasing, but there's something you are not mentioning. Scott is amazing at understanding and getting an idea of the game and the player, so he'd totally leave that chase after the 3rd or 2nd pallet drop

  • @zxzolfo4114

    @zxzolfo4114

    5 ай бұрын

    @@hewmanbeing why you guys so aggressive? Is scott's fanbase all like this? 3 persons replied me 3 aggressive replies. Obviously i am not saying that. I never said that and i specifically pointed out that the meaning of my message was highlighing how important is the first chase and how random may be.

  • @Reinami66
    @Reinami665 ай бұрын

    6:30 yeah the loop for 8 seconds, but then you have to break the pallet, and a pallet break gives them around 10 meters of distance, which you spend another 11 seconds catching up. So those unmindgameable pallets just wasted 20 seconds now. All she has to do now is just shift w to the opposite corner of the map and you spend 90 seconds downing and hooking her and you just lost 3 gens.

  • @Grizzybuzzy

    @Grizzybuzzy

    5 ай бұрын

    Scott said on stream that 1v1's are purely surv sided, because realistically you're going to have to leave the survivor, if ur chasing someone for 90s thats already a huge mistake and you deserve to get punished for not dropping a chase and going somewhere else. Although it sucks that a survivor can run you for 3 minutes as an M1, but you shouldnt chase for that much time anyway. Thats not how the game is played. -Scott Jund

  • @Grizzybuzzy

    @Grizzybuzzy

    5 ай бұрын

    also if you dont like survivors shift w'ing, maybe consider playing a killer with mobility. I know its infuriating, but there definetly are killers that deal with it well

  • @skyday3788

    @skyday3788

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Grizzybuzzy based

  • @AzalofForossa

    @AzalofForossa

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Grizzybuzzy Not to mention in a 1v1 you don't care about resources as a survivor. You're burning all of them for as long as possible to stay safe. Of course you don't just drop every pallet even if you don't have to, but in general, resources fly super quick in a 1v1 vs a real game where you need to weigh out the value of a pallet and whether the value is better now, or better later. My chases in 1v1s last way longer than real games because of that fact. If you burn all the pallets right off the bat, every loop after is gonna end extremely quickly and most likely end in multiple kills as nobody has any means to escape chases. My most common question in real games is whether me going down and saving the pallet is gonna provide more value to the team, or is preventing a hook state and dropping a good pallet more value to the team. Most often, the pallet provides more value, so a person who loops there later can secure an escape, vs me just having a single hook state which doesn't hurt much at all.

  • @poopnose2815
    @poopnose28155 ай бұрын

    i sound to your videos, thanks for the content 👍

  • @zephyrion
    @zephyrion5 ай бұрын

    How would this have gone if you used Rapid Brutality?

  • @thescoogieman2114
    @thescoogieman21145 ай бұрын

    At 12:10, There are moments like these where i would just swing instantly to scare the survivor outta that confidence. Im surprised nobody does this, i could moonwalk a corner and swing at nothing, and a survivor will most of the time get scared and drop the pallet. Good vid.

  • @usedhalfcart

    @usedhalfcart

    5 ай бұрын

    but they could make distance while you're in your cooldown animation, right? please let me know if im understanding incorrectly.

  • @devxro

    @devxro

    5 ай бұрын

    and this is why swinging randomly is a bad idea against survivors who aren't relatively new and/or casual players. You get a ton of distance while the killer is stuck in their cooldown animation. @@usedhalfcart

  • @stardust9329
    @stardust93295 ай бұрын

    1:16 im surprised you didnt try to swing there for a possible hit, survivor looked very close to the window

  • @ScottJund

    @ScottJund

    5 ай бұрын

    its super risky tbh. it might have worked but missing would be a pretty big time loss

  • @danielgreen9417

    @danielgreen9417

    5 ай бұрын

    not swinging was also a risk because you didn't gain anything by not swinging @@ScottJund

  • @Jack.Martson

    @Jack.Martson

    5 ай бұрын

    I honestly thought he was gonna swing lol

  • @HalcyonRemnant
    @HalcyonRemnant5 ай бұрын

    Wild how many people in the comments are treating this as a 'survivor is op' thing instead of as a good set of lessons on what a good survivor will do and where

  • @PackageCat

    @PackageCat

    5 ай бұрын

    doesnt change the facts - a solo survivor god

  • @white_hound6811

    @white_hound6811

    5 ай бұрын

    This just shows how shitty M1 killers are lmao without a power you are absolutely fucked

  • @WutTheDeuceGaming

    @WutTheDeuceGaming

    5 ай бұрын

    the skill ceiling isn't high when you're gifted setups like this. You'd have to be REALLY bad, and I mean REALLY bad to not get at least 1.5 mins off the setup she got. Killer dependent of course.

  • @leonthegamer2839

    @leonthegamer2839

    5 ай бұрын

    People just fail to distinguish between 1v1 and 1v4. They look at this video and their bias prevents them from actually thinking about it. They just go like: "Omg 4 min for 1 down that is insane survivors must be op which conveniently fits my view"

  • @nathakevin012
    @nathakevin0125 ай бұрын

    4:13 that actually make me stupidly laugh, love u scot

  • @anettelma123
    @anettelma1235 ай бұрын

    it remind me that someone below one of your videos wrote that survivor doesnt require any skill lmao

  • @Efical
    @Efical5 ай бұрын

    This guy is knuffig (google translate german to english) and cracked ☺

  • @zachsmith4473
    @zachsmith44735 ай бұрын

    2.5 minutes to get 1 hit lives rent free in my nightmares

  • @7cmPwincess
    @7cmPwincess5 ай бұрын

    Aww their name is cute

  • @Andreslashfully
    @Andreslashfully5 ай бұрын

    Nothing you could have done Scott, too many filters and stretch res!

  • @PushyPillow
    @PushyPillow5 ай бұрын

    I can see a lot of content creators' takeaway being "wow map so unbalanced, not that they outplayed me." Rather, this is just a look at how a player used the tools available in interesting ways for a really strong performance.

  • @simp4kate_denson639
    @simp4kate_denson6395 ай бұрын

    I always do that where I swing around for the window in the jungle gym instead of the pallet cz I'm extremely greedy...too greedy I will legit whatever it takes not to drop a jungle gym pallet I consider jungle pallets as good as shacks I never drop em unless I'm in death hook lol

  • @MihaiDurus
    @MihaiDurus5 ай бұрын

    Those soloq are so bad, no gens were done while looping the killer for minutes

  • @MrDementedninja
    @MrDementedninja5 ай бұрын

    Get feeling better man.

  • @ItsNocty
    @ItsNocty5 ай бұрын

    I play the way the Nea plays too. That’s an old playstyle tbh.

  • @gavinblue3534
    @gavinblue35345 ай бұрын

    imagine analyzing something scoot confirmed nerdge

  • @nightwing316
    @nightwing3165 ай бұрын

    I always say there is no perfect match you who’s probably one of the best players in dbd when I see this breakdown I see so many mistakes it’s crazy keep in mind I make waaayyy more and worse ones I know hindsight is a bitch but it gives you a good reflection instead of just blaming the game or one side

  • @gianglai7346
    @gianglai73465 ай бұрын

    Knuffig is German and means cuddly

  • @AirRunnersViper
    @AirRunnersViper5 ай бұрын

    looks balanced

  • @bentcheesee
    @bentcheesee5 ай бұрын

    and I had some absolutely shitter RNG lmao (Though I know I could have played better, I probably could have made it to the Jungle Gym that spawned in the corner if I just held a straight line instead of relying on a pallet that didn't exist)

  • @sockinvaders
    @sockinvaders5 ай бұрын

    Scott, you know how many times I faked a window vault... only to be going against a noob killer who just walked in a straight line and got the hit. Some killers I go against would have maybe got hits on this survivor because they were too stupid to be mind gamed. The fact that the survivor knows how good you are is to your detriment. You didn't know how good they were, so you're at a disadvantage on every mindgame.

  • @devxro

    @devxro

    5 ай бұрын

    I'm like 99% positive that survivor wouldn't have done that window fake if he knew Scott wasn't smart enough to try and mindgame that specific window like that. I don't really think it was to Scott's detriment, because he admits a few times in this video that he personally made his own mistakes that the survivor took clear advantage of. Scott had a pretty good idea of how good this survivor was with the previous loops, but when you're in the middle of a chase and trying to get a down as quickly as possible in a 1v1, you don't really think about stuff like that lol.

  • @-_Jayden_-
    @-_Jayden_-5 ай бұрын

    7:15 You definitely should. In 1v1s getting bloodlust as m1 trapper is your main goal. You wont down someone otherwise quickly. If the player gets hit without bloodlust early on, they simply missplayed.

  • @Val-xw7tw
    @Val-xw7tw5 ай бұрын

    Sencond

  • @Dazolator
    @Dazolator5 ай бұрын

    Do you think 1:14 could have been a hit?

  • @kyledrain8537
    @kyledrain85375 ай бұрын

    Damn. Made for this is so broken smh🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Rickard4199
    @Rickard41995 ай бұрын

    The one you played against "Knuffig" is a well known swedish cheater and is using stretched too.

  • @devxro

    @devxro

    5 ай бұрын

    got any evidence of this?

  • @ScottJund

    @ScottJund

    5 ай бұрын

    proof?

  • @Mickeymouse7727
    @Mickeymouse77275 ай бұрын

    Imagine being a surv main

  • @WutTheDeuceGaming
    @WutTheDeuceGaming5 ай бұрын

    1v1s really only show you the problems this game has with RnG being so punishing in any given map generation. I find the whole, "you should never get bloodlust 2 against anybody" kind of hilarious given what maps look like most of the time and the fact predropping is more powerful than actually using a pallet to stun. 3:05 it's not that interesting. So far, you've given them absolutely no reason not to do this. There's no reason for her not to stall the pallet drop as long as possible. There COULD have been a mind game here as she's not looking behind her when she gets to the corner. She's already made up her mind that she's vaulting that, 1000%. Instead of the mind game you play the straight line game, predicting the most basic survivor play, and her not looking behind her that whole time looks genius.

  • @leonthegamer2839

    @leonthegamer2839

    5 ай бұрын

    Predropping is not more powerfull than a stun. However stunns a way more of a gamble and ping dependent. Predropping is usually just the safer option but not necessarily the stronger one.

  • @jnever9768
    @jnever97685 ай бұрын

    the prob is this play style is super boring because if you both are doing the correct plays its just a slow jog to the inevitable...but then also 3 gens pop in this 1.5 minutes it took you to get a hit. it's super unfun for killer.

  • @satanael7005
    @satanael70055 ай бұрын

    not first cuz thats cringe

  • @soraowns

    @soraowns

    5 ай бұрын

    relatable

  • @nicholasvrbka6120
    @nicholasvrbka61205 ай бұрын

    Lmao nooooo Scott. You faced an accused wall hacker!

  • @nqqthing

    @nqqthing

    5 ай бұрын

    The nea? They're a good player. There are almost no moments where a wallhack would have benefited them in this chase more than watching the red stain would

  • @Mxrphyy

    @Mxrphyy

    5 ай бұрын

    8:20 you would never do a play like that if youre walling

  • @nqqthing

    @nqqthing

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Mxrphyy why?? it's just a fake basically. faking pallet and taking window to buy more distance/time. it works at many tiles in the game

  • @Mxrphyy

    @Mxrphyy

    5 ай бұрын

    @@nqqthing because it’s just a risky play. If you are wallhacking you would just run the tile in a circle and be safe

  • @1980sEnjoyer
    @1980sEnjoyer5 ай бұрын

    quit dbd and play chess

  • @Irondragon1945

    @Irondragon1945

    5 ай бұрын

    Fortnite > Chess

  • @epticmaniac5764
    @epticmaniac57645 ай бұрын

    What’s the point of 1v1 if you don’t use your ability

  • @wolfrex2721

    @wolfrex2721

    5 ай бұрын

    Because its M1 only

  • @epticmaniac5764

    @epticmaniac5764

    5 ай бұрын

    Not really a 1v1 if you have to nerf yourself

  • @ItsNocty
    @ItsNocty5 ай бұрын

    Scott you should try to exercise more, you get sick too easily bro. Gotta take care of yourself man and build that immune system.

  • @ScottJund

    @ScottJund

    5 ай бұрын

    my immune system is literally destroying me because its overreactive

  • @Maverick-hx3ps

    @Maverick-hx3ps

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ScottJund Hey Scott. I'm sorry to hear about your health problems. Few things are worse in life than the debilitating effects of health problems, but the OP is right. It is hard af, especially when a health issue drains one further of energy, but try to get out there and at least try to jog a couple times around the block. Exercise really is key. I am struggling myself to get back to exercising and working out, but the best times I felt in my life was when I was exercising regularly. It's an amazing therapy in so many ways and can combat the body's tendency towards sickness in ways that defy all logic and reason. If it's too cold where you live right now, do pushups and situps, or whatever exercise, so long as it's strenuous and causes you to work up a sweat. Be strong my dude. You can do it! Thank you for all the great content. Your content gives me a great mental distraction that you'll never know. 👍

  • @Mr_Racooner
    @Mr_Racooner5 ай бұрын

    the fact almost anyone could do this by predropping pallets, yet are too greedy or they are in solo q XD

  • @ScottJund

    @ScottJund

    5 ай бұрын

    no they cant. thats the entire point of this video.

  • @dryfizz9969
    @dryfizz99695 ай бұрын

    I mean no offense Scott, but I feel like a lot of ur killer gameplay is just existing and letting them make all the plays without attempting to make any yourself

  • @larsliamvilhelm

    @larsliamvilhelm

    5 ай бұрын

    Because trying to mindgame comp-level survivors as an M1 killer is a waste of time about 90% of the time. They've seen it all before so they know how to make every tile as safe as possible.

  • @masterweapon334

    @masterweapon334

    5 ай бұрын

    There’s no point when the surv is reading your every move. They know when to vault, drop the pallet, and keep running. In a real game, you’d ideally never chase this person and go for a weaker link on the team.

  • @dryfizz9969

    @dryfizz9969

    5 ай бұрын

    as someone who has played against top level survivors, I know that this is simply not true, instead of feeding into their plays he should do something unexpected just like they were doing something unexpected. For example, right at the start he could have swung at the window for a cheeky play, or changed up his shack strategy after the 3rd time@@larsliamvilhelm

  • @Rufucchi

    @Rufucchi

    5 ай бұрын

    @@dryfizz9969 The first play you mentioned is worse than a 50/50, it's not a good play to just swing to a window that the survivor could be close to, at that point it's no mindgame or guessing, just praying to get lucky. Most survivors you'll find in a match won't be hugging walls like that, and good survivors that do might get caught off guard once in the whole match, if you're lucky that is. The other play, changing up his shack strategy, is what he actually did. He walked into shack way more than before, most likely assuming the survivor will fake the vault because they took it quickly the first time. The survivor reacted accordingly and quickly, taking a late fast vault. You can see the difference between their first time and their second time in that scenario very clearly.

  • @GangsterGreg

    @GangsterGreg

    5 ай бұрын

    ​​@@dryfizz9969 No offense dude, but swinging at shack window is a massive gamble even against an average survivor. Against a good survivor, it's just dumb.

  • @Reinami66
    @Reinami665 ай бұрын

    5:35 and therein lies the problem. You are both flowcharting, and she has already wasted 90 seconds of time and you haven't landed a hit. In a regular DBD match, you just lost, and if you abandon chase she immediately hops on a gen and you spend more time trying to find someone losing what little momentum you have. All it takes is 1-2 predropped unmindgamable pallets and you lose 3 gens.

  • @ScottJund

    @ScottJund

    5 ай бұрын

    in a regular DBD match id have a fucking killer power, stop treating this as an actual match of DBD

  • @skerpi4068
    @skerpi40685 ай бұрын

    And still there are players that think killers have the power role...

  • @theurbanreanimator7244

    @theurbanreanimator7244

    5 ай бұрын

    1v1s arent really indicative of actual matches lmao

  • @whydoihavesubs6644

    @whydoihavesubs6644

    5 ай бұрын

    you realize that this was an m1 1v1 right? Where the killer has no power or perks and the survivor can just drop whatever they want?

  • @marted7135

    @marted7135

    5 ай бұрын

    dbd community member try not to bitch challange

  • @dom3833

    @dom3833

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@theurbanreanimator7244 yeah but if you watch comp matches killers are basically getting 1ks, maybe 5 stages sometimes?

  • @whydoihavesubs6644

    @whydoihavesubs6644

    5 ай бұрын

    @dom3833 this is only true in low level comp matches and ones where its a top team vs a lower tier team. Top teams almost never get less than a 2k against each other

  • @dodang_9147
    @dodang_91475 ай бұрын

    how does anyone think that this is good balance? why is there 4 minute chases in a game where killer is suppose to be stronger in the 1vs1? This is exact problem with safe loop design. it shouldn't exist. 4 minutes on isolated survivor should NEVER be a thing. I do not understand what scott is on about when he says 10-20 second is no big deal. 10-20 second is how you get 3 gen done in first chase. all this time adds up. Yes 4 minute chases do not occur in 1 chase because killer is not dumb enough to take bad chases but they occur in multiple chases. For example 60 second X5 chases is 5 minute chases. A good killer should have < 2 minute chases but there is absolute no skill-cap to killer because of safe pallet design. you waste arbitrary amount of time on 50% of the m1 killers with 0 counter-play on a majority of pallets. This is why Nurse and Blight work because pre-drop like this and wasting time is not possible. They can actually hit a lower then 2 minute chase window instead of these ridiculously 4 minute chases.

  • @turboligma9927

    @turboligma9927

    5 ай бұрын

    I dont think anyones ever said that but in a 1v1, the survivor has the entire map to themselves. In a 4v1, they need to share their resources evenly to give others a chance. Also the average time for an m1 chase is 2.30 in comp unless the skill difference is massive. And Blight still "struggles" on some pallets. You can still kind of use pallets against Nurse but that requires a lot of skill and reaction time.

  • @mckookie2967

    @mckookie2967

    5 ай бұрын

    That's why we run Xeno and just tail them over the loop ​@@turboligma9927

  • @wolfrex2721

    @wolfrex2721

    5 ай бұрын

    He’s not using his power and the survivor doesn’t have to care about not running into teammates on gens or wasting pallets

  • @dodang_9147

    @dodang_9147

    5 ай бұрын

    @@turboligma9927 survivor don't need share anything. they just rush gens and looping. looping for 4 minutes means you can do 8 generators in term of efficiency. that's insane. the game is balanced around 5 gens and your looping for almost double the required time. even looping for 2 minutes and 30 second is too high because that is easily 3-4 gen chase. for a killer to be viable, the chases have to be no more then 60-75 seconds consistently. When Spirit was stronger, that was average chase time and people STILL defeated spirit with that as average chase time, so imagining 4 minute and 2 min 30 as chase time is showcasing that loop design is NOT balanced and the game is still massively survivor sided.

  • @turboligma9927

    @turboligma9927

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dodang_9147 If thats how your games are going, then its a skill issue. Its literally impossible to be looped for 4 minutes unless its a massive skill difference. In that case, how many hours do you have so I can see if it’s worth continuing this convo?

  • @theewebminer
    @theewebminer5 ай бұрын

    Why are you teaching people to do 0 mindgames and just bulldoze through every pallet, no wonder you're getting ran for 4 minutes, there's no finesse to this, it's like a script playing out

  • @wolfrex2721

    @wolfrex2721

    5 ай бұрын

    There’s no teaching here. And great survivors like this won’t fall for mindgames 90% of the time. They end up being a waste of time

  • @theewebminer

    @theewebminer

    5 ай бұрын

    @@wolfrex2721 He says they're both "playing the flowchart perfectly" , so he's saying hes playing optimally, and good players most certainly get mindgamed, you're just too bad to know how to or even try

  • @wolfrex2721

    @wolfrex2721

    5 ай бұрын

    @@theewebminer good players, yes. Great players? Very rarely. This is a commonly accepted fact. Comp players rarely mindgame each other at tiles.

  • @theewebminer

    @theewebminer

    5 ай бұрын

    @@wolfrex2721 Even the best players can be mindgamed, just depends on wether you know what they can see and wether you know how to, you clearly nothing about comp and this is "commonly accepted" by all the idiots that spew "comp/1v1 is only predropping"

  • @wolfrex2721

    @wolfrex2721

    5 ай бұрын

    @@theewebminer The survivors are already fully aware and will have all your tricks in mind so they are prepared for them. Scott does mindgame here, just in ways that aren’t risky and they don’t result in hits either, just less distance. If he was playing a killer with a power, that would be totally different. But an M1 killer just has to go with the flow and get rid of pallets.

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