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@blackzilla852 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 Coyote is a semi closed deck, port injection with 11mm head bolts, while the Gen 3 is a open deck block, port and direct injection with 12mm head bolts. Being semi closed, the Gen 2 block is stronger for boost, the Gen 3 can run a higher compression since it has better cooling from the open deck design and larger damper for vibrations.
@frankbjr12503 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 2018 for almost 3 years w/bolt ons and e85. No tick or oil consumption. It’s unfortunate for whoever had the issues but it’s really an amazing motor.
@JG-oc8ov
3 жыл бұрын
Any tips ? I got a 2019 for a year now and been great so far
@thevishen1950
2 жыл бұрын
What oil type do you use ?
@frankbjr1250
2 жыл бұрын
@@thevishen1950 honestly just motorcraft and oem filters
@frankbjr1250
2 жыл бұрын
@@JG-oc8ov I change oil every 3-6 months but it’s not a daily driver. I think you’re good to go!
@donaldhill1401
7 ай бұрын
Luv that e85!
@antglizzy23402 жыл бұрын
Just got my 2019 in August and I already had to take it to the dealer. Been in the dealer since Dec 21 I’m just getting it back Monday. My advice is if u got the 2018-19 GT make sure you get VCT Solenoid checked out they come faulty in a lot of those cars. My issue was my car would turn off at a stop or red light it would also though am positioning code and shake from what I thought was the exhaust. But after the dealership ran a computer on my car overnight and changed almost all the parts in the engine that was the issue with mine.
@spiceyfrenchtoast9421 Жыл бұрын
Gen 1 5.0 at 157k and still runs like a clock. Doesn't even burn that much oil. Really is a fantastic Engine.
@yoits-a-Me-Mario
Жыл бұрын
That's cool to hear, I have a gen 2 sitting at 130k as of now still runs well. Not much oil burn quart or 2 but I change my oil at 6-7k full synthetic. I worry since some things happen and I have to daily ot now. Alot of hwy miles.
@trumpie4206
9 ай бұрын
i got a 182k mile fbo e85 coyote and becides fuel pump going out she runs strong
@tomdenapoli53132 жыл бұрын
What control pack for a gen 3 and manual trans? what trans?
@glennw71184 ай бұрын
I have a gen2 2017 GT PP manual Grabber Blue. After hearing about the infamous tick and oil consumption of the Gen 3, I'll stick with my N/A Stang.So far no issues other than the the issue with the IRMC valves on the manifold breaking. The last addition of the Manifold supposedly fix the issue. FMC should have done a recall on this obvious problem.
@shubyz Жыл бұрын
Would the Gen 2 fit in a 1967 mustang fastback?
@onemoremisfit4 жыл бұрын
That damper does look vicious.
@johnhorton96377 ай бұрын
I bought a 2018 f150 used almost 2 years ago with the 5.0 l coyote engine. I absolutely love it. It has all the power I need .
@dennisrobinson8008 Жыл бұрын
Does direct injection require a different ECU? For the cyllinder head flow numbers I have 289cfm@.500" as my coyote flow numbers and cannot find gen 3 specific flow numbers, does anyone have them? So he said the differences: gen3=460hp/420tq and gen2=435hp/400tq 1. Direct injection on the gen3 vs port injection on the gen2 2. 12:1 cr vs 11:1 cr on the gen2 3. higher flowing heads and intake manifold
@mr.boostang20643 жыл бұрын
What I would do for that 3rd gen with the 10r80 swap in my 07 Sport Trac 🤌
@samwell7073 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 ftw
@400hpmustang2 жыл бұрын
Happy with my port injected 14 GT, running strong with 22k miles.
@rogertorres_perez84310 ай бұрын
How much are this thing run at
@MOH_T3 ай бұрын
Do you have a Coyote engine for sale? Gn2
@fredy51623 жыл бұрын
price
@keving17743 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 torque is 400 ft-lbs and 435 HP at crank
@LichaelMewis3 жыл бұрын
Does the gen3 not also not have fully forged internals? That high compression will not be boost friendly...
@anthonys3906
10 ай бұрын
Gen3’s are the fastest lol
@gamadrummer3 жыл бұрын
Cool!!!!!
@madmax-bu5tn3 жыл бұрын
I wanna swap my eco boost to a 5.0 it’s a 2017 should I get gen 2 for compatibility or gen 3 for power I know I have to change the mounts wiring harnesses and controller module I’m ordering full exhaust system from gt350r with valance already have the big brake hit from brembo 6 piss in front 4 in back I wanna put I while on coyote would that be safe? Or should I build on the motor while it’s fresh out the crate?
@madmax-bu5tn
3 жыл бұрын
Whipple*^😂
@thaieralawadh22233 жыл бұрын
I would like to swap ford engine in my 69 mustang fastback.. I am looking into reliable mustang engines with stick shift.. any recomendation/suggestions?
@Firefly_3161
3 жыл бұрын
F-150 coyote with flex-fuel (after 2018) probably less expensive
@chrisdaigle5410
3 жыл бұрын
The Gen 3 will fit under the hood and it's smaller than a Boss 429.
@jrvbamafan13 жыл бұрын
Rather keep my 2017 gen 2....too many issues from the gen 3. Oil consumption, engine tick etc....
@henryjoksovic1539
2 жыл бұрын
Gen 1 is the best
@TheRealJRealer
2 жыл бұрын
@@henryjoksovic1539 no its not gen 2 is better
@paulezay3599
2 жыл бұрын
@@henryjoksovic1539 gen 1 is weak 800hp u can grenade the motor
@paulezay3599
2 жыл бұрын
That with all coyotes generations and most of the time the ticking sound is a injector Failure most of us coyote boy dont know that and get sad when we here a ticking we think automatically motor but u be suprise when the coyote has a injector Failure it gives off a ticking valve sound
@jjgonz983 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 mustang GT M/T obviously with the Gen 2 motor in to and my engine blew up today and I need a new engine. Was thinking about buying the Gen 3 motor as the new one. Do you know exactly what I need for the swap or should it just be a plug and play becuz both Gen 2 and Gen 3 motors are near identical? Like do I need to buy a different harness to make it fit, a new PCM, etc.?
@jjgonz98
3 жыл бұрын
@Earl Delsanto you need to learn to shut up and speak when spoken too
@evermartinez6265
2 жыл бұрын
I think you’ll use the gen 3 ecu with harness because its port injection
@Wooley6893 жыл бұрын
I want to put one in my crown Vic.
@edwin92102 жыл бұрын
Can you send a gen 3 one? I’d really appreciate it.
@burtonh12 жыл бұрын
Is The Gen 3 designed to run on E85?
@MrAdrian13
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah just need a tune
@Godistriun3
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAdrian13 not with the f-150
@fitleo Жыл бұрын
And how much do these motors go for?
@2023_Max4 жыл бұрын
The 3rd gen (2018) is a true 5.0L.1st and 2nd are still about 4.9L.
@saauuzza
4 жыл бұрын
Your math is so poor you should go back to primary
@2023_Max
4 жыл бұрын
Happy Cupcake kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIR3y8F7acvAg7g.html Min 2:20 As for your comment. You check your math Professor Pancake. 👍🏽
@saauuzza
4 жыл бұрын
4951 cc is closer to 5000 than 4900. You need to go back to primary school my friend.
@saauuzza
4 жыл бұрын
@@2023_Max I am still waiting for another KZread link perhaps from Jason as well explaining if 4951 is closer to 5000 or 4900. Please point me in the right direction dickhead.
@2023_Max
4 жыл бұрын
Happy Cupcake ok, let me add a (51), happy! Does that make me graduate Elementary? 🤦🏻♂️😂 you are one funny strawberry shortcake. And as for your insults, well they don’t bother me Ignorant Cupcake. 😂
@joshb.44043 жыл бұрын
I want to engine swap m my 2008 base mustang with a v8 can anyone give me some guidance please?
@flipajigtv8608
3 жыл бұрын
Sell your car and buy a v8 stang.
@joshb.4404
3 жыл бұрын
@@flipajigtv8608 nah that’s not an option
@flipajigtv8608
3 жыл бұрын
@@joshb.4404 man it’s gonna be a lot cheaper to do it that way😂 but, just get online and look at some crate engines
@chevywilliams958
3 жыл бұрын
Get the ford control pack and crate engine..simple really
@predalienftw
2 жыл бұрын
costs around 18-23k to swap a coyote into a car
@JackTheSkunk3 жыл бұрын
I heard Ford may offer cylinder deactivation on their V8s next year. I wonder if it would be possible to turbo charge such a Coyote engine. Seems like it would be the best of both worlds but I am no automotive engineer.
@Mangobrain82
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a terrible system and hopefully Ford doesn’t do that.
@georgeeno_2815
2 жыл бұрын
That technology is literally a problem on the long run. GM has done it since 2014 on their V8’s and at 120k miles they start having lofter issues like crazy
@RimshotsandNamaste3 жыл бұрын
Did ford solve the ticking problem in 2020?
@habanero5.054
3 жыл бұрын
No I have a 2020 with about 5700 miles and it ticks extremely loud and I believe I may be burning oil but I have to monitor that
@RimshotsandNamaste
3 жыл бұрын
@@habanero5.054 "ah come on man?!" :p This sux :/ Sorry to hear that. ..guess I'll go buy another sport car with a LT1 and a proper tr6060 transmission!
@habanero5.054
3 жыл бұрын
@@RimshotsandNamaste haha yeah I wish it wasn’t so poorly built because it’s so fun and quick but you can tell Ford cheaped out on it. I’d recommend looking at the Scatpacks, maybe a camaro, and most definitely I’d highly consider a c63 AMG. You can find a pre owned one for a great deal and it’ll blow any of those cars out of the water+build quality is way better
@RimshotsandNamaste
3 жыл бұрын
@@habanero5.054 yeah! ..but.. Lt1 and tr6060, you can't beat that :p (I want absolutely a manual!)
@habanero5.054
3 жыл бұрын
@@RimshotsandNamaste I don’t blame you I love the 6 speed I have but just not when I get locked out of 3rd gear😂
@daveblock40613 жыл бұрын
My God is that thing HUGE! Bigger than my car!
@VibingGenius
3 жыл бұрын
Oh wait I dont have a car
@5.0_life30
3 жыл бұрын
That’s what she said
@sevenseas10522 жыл бұрын
I own a gen3 n I can tell you that no gen 1 or gen 2 compares I’ve drove a 1 n 2 n have buddies with 1 n 2s
@dennisrobinson8008
Жыл бұрын
12:1 cr alone gets you about a 4% increase in torque across the board.
@DaRealSonic Жыл бұрын
Gen 2 is the strongest block
@hawaii50842 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 not actually a 5.0 but a 4.951L. Gen 3 on the other hand is a 5.038L truly a 5.0.
@ethonixs
2 жыл бұрын
Yup they are true 5.0 and there manifolds are slightly better and are compared to the gt350 manifolds
@Bryan-zk1pr3 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 is better
@mikehughes8023
3 жыл бұрын
For boost😎
@daveysteven2217
3 жыл бұрын
It is a amazing motor I'm still amazed at the cars I take down with mine.
@marklowe74313 жыл бұрын
Killer engines.
@ChuckTay233 жыл бұрын
Dude my God why are your calves so big?!
@chrisdaigle5410
3 жыл бұрын
He's either a body builder or a cyclist.
@ChuckTay23
3 жыл бұрын
Chris Daigle or Hercules
@RimshotsandNamaste
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdaigle5410 or a tennis/ping pong player! Seriously! Or he's just an ex-obese person: heavy people naturally have big calves to move all that weight :p
@DKLONGHORN
3 жыл бұрын
Genetics play a huge part on how big your calf muscles get, but I'm guessing he is a runner.
Пікірлер: 120
Gen 2 Coyote is a semi closed deck, port injection with 11mm head bolts, while the Gen 3 is a open deck block, port and direct injection with 12mm head bolts. Being semi closed, the Gen 2 block is stronger for boost, the Gen 3 can run a higher compression since it has better cooling from the open deck design and larger damper for vibrations.
I’ve had my 2018 for almost 3 years w/bolt ons and e85. No tick or oil consumption. It’s unfortunate for whoever had the issues but it’s really an amazing motor.
@JG-oc8ov
3 жыл бұрын
Any tips ? I got a 2019 for a year now and been great so far
@thevishen1950
2 жыл бұрын
What oil type do you use ?
@frankbjr1250
2 жыл бұрын
@@thevishen1950 honestly just motorcraft and oem filters
@frankbjr1250
2 жыл бұрын
@@JG-oc8ov I change oil every 3-6 months but it’s not a daily driver. I think you’re good to go!
@donaldhill1401
7 ай бұрын
Luv that e85!
Just got my 2019 in August and I already had to take it to the dealer. Been in the dealer since Dec 21 I’m just getting it back Monday. My advice is if u got the 2018-19 GT make sure you get VCT Solenoid checked out they come faulty in a lot of those cars. My issue was my car would turn off at a stop or red light it would also though am positioning code and shake from what I thought was the exhaust. But after the dealership ran a computer on my car overnight and changed almost all the parts in the engine that was the issue with mine.
Gen 1 5.0 at 157k and still runs like a clock. Doesn't even burn that much oil. Really is a fantastic Engine.
@yoits-a-Me-Mario
Жыл бұрын
That's cool to hear, I have a gen 2 sitting at 130k as of now still runs well. Not much oil burn quart or 2 but I change my oil at 6-7k full synthetic. I worry since some things happen and I have to daily ot now. Alot of hwy miles.
@trumpie4206
9 ай бұрын
i got a 182k mile fbo e85 coyote and becides fuel pump going out she runs strong
What control pack for a gen 3 and manual trans? what trans?
I have a gen2 2017 GT PP manual Grabber Blue. After hearing about the infamous tick and oil consumption of the Gen 3, I'll stick with my N/A Stang.So far no issues other than the the issue with the IRMC valves on the manifold breaking. The last addition of the Manifold supposedly fix the issue. FMC should have done a recall on this obvious problem.
Would the Gen 2 fit in a 1967 mustang fastback?
That damper does look vicious.
I bought a 2018 f150 used almost 2 years ago with the 5.0 l coyote engine. I absolutely love it. It has all the power I need .
Does direct injection require a different ECU? For the cyllinder head flow numbers I have 289cfm@.500" as my coyote flow numbers and cannot find gen 3 specific flow numbers, does anyone have them? So he said the differences: gen3=460hp/420tq and gen2=435hp/400tq 1. Direct injection on the gen3 vs port injection on the gen2 2. 12:1 cr vs 11:1 cr on the gen2 3. higher flowing heads and intake manifold
What I would do for that 3rd gen with the 10r80 swap in my 07 Sport Trac 🤌
Gen 2 ftw
Happy with my port injected 14 GT, running strong with 22k miles.
How much are this thing run at
Do you have a Coyote engine for sale? Gn2
price
Gen 2 torque is 400 ft-lbs and 435 HP at crank
Does the gen3 not also not have fully forged internals? That high compression will not be boost friendly...
@anthonys3906
10 ай бұрын
Gen3’s are the fastest lol
Cool!!!!!
I wanna swap my eco boost to a 5.0 it’s a 2017 should I get gen 2 for compatibility or gen 3 for power I know I have to change the mounts wiring harnesses and controller module I’m ordering full exhaust system from gt350r with valance already have the big brake hit from brembo 6 piss in front 4 in back I wanna put I while on coyote would that be safe? Or should I build on the motor while it’s fresh out the crate?
@madmax-bu5tn
3 жыл бұрын
Whipple*^😂
I would like to swap ford engine in my 69 mustang fastback.. I am looking into reliable mustang engines with stick shift.. any recomendation/suggestions?
@Firefly_3161
3 жыл бұрын
F-150 coyote with flex-fuel (after 2018) probably less expensive
@chrisdaigle5410
3 жыл бұрын
The Gen 3 will fit under the hood and it's smaller than a Boss 429.
Rather keep my 2017 gen 2....too many issues from the gen 3. Oil consumption, engine tick etc....
@henryjoksovic1539
2 жыл бұрын
Gen 1 is the best
@TheRealJRealer
2 жыл бұрын
@@henryjoksovic1539 no its not gen 2 is better
@paulezay3599
2 жыл бұрын
@@henryjoksovic1539 gen 1 is weak 800hp u can grenade the motor
@paulezay3599
2 жыл бұрын
That with all coyotes generations and most of the time the ticking sound is a injector Failure most of us coyote boy dont know that and get sad when we here a ticking we think automatically motor but u be suprise when the coyote has a injector Failure it gives off a ticking valve sound
I have a 2017 mustang GT M/T obviously with the Gen 2 motor in to and my engine blew up today and I need a new engine. Was thinking about buying the Gen 3 motor as the new one. Do you know exactly what I need for the swap or should it just be a plug and play becuz both Gen 2 and Gen 3 motors are near identical? Like do I need to buy a different harness to make it fit, a new PCM, etc.?
@jjgonz98
3 жыл бұрын
@Earl Delsanto you need to learn to shut up and speak when spoken too
@evermartinez6265
2 жыл бұрын
I think you’ll use the gen 3 ecu with harness because its port injection
I want to put one in my crown Vic.
Can you send a gen 3 one? I’d really appreciate it.
Is The Gen 3 designed to run on E85?
@MrAdrian13
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah just need a tune
@Godistriun3
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAdrian13 not with the f-150
And how much do these motors go for?
The 3rd gen (2018) is a true 5.0L.1st and 2nd are still about 4.9L.
@saauuzza
4 жыл бұрын
Your math is so poor you should go back to primary
@2023_Max
4 жыл бұрын
Happy Cupcake kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIR3y8F7acvAg7g.html Min 2:20 As for your comment. You check your math Professor Pancake. 👍🏽
@saauuzza
4 жыл бұрын
4951 cc is closer to 5000 than 4900. You need to go back to primary school my friend.
@saauuzza
4 жыл бұрын
@@2023_Max I am still waiting for another KZread link perhaps from Jason as well explaining if 4951 is closer to 5000 or 4900. Please point me in the right direction dickhead.
@2023_Max
4 жыл бұрын
Happy Cupcake ok, let me add a (51), happy! Does that make me graduate Elementary? 🤦🏻♂️😂 you are one funny strawberry shortcake. And as for your insults, well they don’t bother me Ignorant Cupcake. 😂
I want to engine swap m my 2008 base mustang with a v8 can anyone give me some guidance please?
@flipajigtv8608
3 жыл бұрын
Sell your car and buy a v8 stang.
@joshb.4404
3 жыл бұрын
@@flipajigtv8608 nah that’s not an option
@flipajigtv8608
3 жыл бұрын
@@joshb.4404 man it’s gonna be a lot cheaper to do it that way😂 but, just get online and look at some crate engines
@chevywilliams958
3 жыл бұрын
Get the ford control pack and crate engine..simple really
@predalienftw
2 жыл бұрын
costs around 18-23k to swap a coyote into a car
I heard Ford may offer cylinder deactivation on their V8s next year. I wonder if it would be possible to turbo charge such a Coyote engine. Seems like it would be the best of both worlds but I am no automotive engineer.
@Mangobrain82
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a terrible system and hopefully Ford doesn’t do that.
@georgeeno_2815
2 жыл бұрын
That technology is literally a problem on the long run. GM has done it since 2014 on their V8’s and at 120k miles they start having lofter issues like crazy
Did ford solve the ticking problem in 2020?
@habanero5.054
3 жыл бұрын
No I have a 2020 with about 5700 miles and it ticks extremely loud and I believe I may be burning oil but I have to monitor that
@RimshotsandNamaste
3 жыл бұрын
@@habanero5.054 "ah come on man?!" :p This sux :/ Sorry to hear that. ..guess I'll go buy another sport car with a LT1 and a proper tr6060 transmission!
@habanero5.054
3 жыл бұрын
@@RimshotsandNamaste haha yeah I wish it wasn’t so poorly built because it’s so fun and quick but you can tell Ford cheaped out on it. I’d recommend looking at the Scatpacks, maybe a camaro, and most definitely I’d highly consider a c63 AMG. You can find a pre owned one for a great deal and it’ll blow any of those cars out of the water+build quality is way better
@RimshotsandNamaste
3 жыл бұрын
@@habanero5.054 yeah! ..but.. Lt1 and tr6060, you can't beat that :p (I want absolutely a manual!)
@habanero5.054
3 жыл бұрын
@@RimshotsandNamaste I don’t blame you I love the 6 speed I have but just not when I get locked out of 3rd gear😂
My God is that thing HUGE! Bigger than my car!
@VibingGenius
3 жыл бұрын
Oh wait I dont have a car
@5.0_life30
3 жыл бұрын
That’s what she said
I own a gen3 n I can tell you that no gen 1 or gen 2 compares I’ve drove a 1 n 2 n have buddies with 1 n 2s
@dennisrobinson8008
Жыл бұрын
12:1 cr alone gets you about a 4% increase in torque across the board.
Gen 2 is the strongest block
Gen 2 not actually a 5.0 but a 4.951L. Gen 3 on the other hand is a 5.038L truly a 5.0.
@ethonixs
2 жыл бұрын
Yup they are true 5.0 and there manifolds are slightly better and are compared to the gt350 manifolds
Gen 2 is better
@mikehughes8023
3 жыл бұрын
For boost😎
@daveysteven2217
3 жыл бұрын
It is a amazing motor I'm still amazed at the cars I take down with mine.
Killer engines.
Dude my God why are your calves so big?!
@chrisdaigle5410
3 жыл бұрын
He's either a body builder or a cyclist.
@ChuckTay23
3 жыл бұрын
Chris Daigle or Hercules
@RimshotsandNamaste
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdaigle5410 or a tennis/ping pong player! Seriously! Or he's just an ex-obese person: heavy people naturally have big calves to move all that weight :p
@DKLONGHORN
3 жыл бұрын
Genetics play a huge part on how big your calf muscles get, but I'm guessing he is a runner.
What's the HP on the gen 2?
@Madmaxxxx1984
Жыл бұрын
435 to crank, Rwh like 380to 390