What's left of cracking gasoline= 7 different compounds that vaporize at different temperatures. What you have in the bottom of thee vaporizer is a compound that won't vaporize until it hits over 600 degrees F, actually a tar like substance. Use Coleman lantern/stove fuel and you won't have any of this sludge in your design. Just be extremely careful since a vapor is highly explosive if a spark is caused by a engine backfire. Use a flash suppressor on the output to prevent a spark from getting into the vaporizer box. Thanks for the video!

@broderickwallis25

52 минут бұрын

How much lamp oil per litre of petrol???

Looking good man

If you put another cap on it insidenof the build you can contain the gas heat better and you can have a release valuve on the inside to release the pressure into the gaseous pressure container with a regulater for compression then the air valuve can be pressurized as well and when you open up the carburetor it will suck in just the right amount if you have a pressure release regulator for release on it. So when you open it its like an air compressor. Now if you have many tanks fullbof pressure you can systematically keep it functioning like a regular care that does intervuls. The tanks are under alot of pressure so make sure you use the proper cylinder's.

Basicly the pressure has caused a residue build up the gass vaper lines needs to be many so you can regulate your speed in cylinders with pressure.

Lmao😂 those hot plates are pretty handy 😂

Can this cause damage to the engine, like if you run it too lean, or is this better for the engine?

Cordial saludo Desde Medellín Colombia Una pregunta En qué video se puede ver cuándo funciona Es decir ver el motor en funcionamiento y acelerando Y otra pregunta Realmente funciona Gracias por responder

Thanks for sharing Okki. Thats very clever. I could see using the exhaust heat on something like a PLC to control the temperature with an exhaust valve. The electric heater would be good for initial warm up. Have you considered flash back issues. I heard a mesh membrane works or stainless wool. Do you know the fuel vapour to air ratio is it 1:72 maybe a sensitive oxygen sensor on the exhaust to provide the new ECU with information. I want to do something similar to a VW airccoled engine. Are the semi volatile's waxes etc what sort of concentration are you finding?Sorry about all the questions but very interesting and thanks for sharing.

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Ratted bug. Yes you can use waste heat from engine to vaporize liquid gasoline. You should know that the exhaust gas temperature varies so much (I have measured my exhaust header temperature during normal driving, it varies very bad). I've never had flash back issues with gasoline vapor. From my observation, this vapor burns relatively slow (but still faster than liquid gasoline though), so that I never had that problem. I had many flash back issues with HHO, but thank God that all my cells are explosion proof. I don't know about air to fuel vapor ratio. All I know is that you need much less fuel if you run your engine using only vapor. And also you won't have any knocking problem. Fuel vapor doesn't knock. If it's too lean or too fat, the engine just dies. The thick sticky part left from gasoline at the bottom of my container is not burnable. It looks like wax or similar. I think this is the chemical additives to prevent engine knocking or some kind of detergent. I use only Super98. I think the higher the octane rating, the more you have this additives. Maybe you have seen video from Bill Kendrick, he mentioned also this on his system.

@rattedbug5003

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Okki my apologies for giving my name earlier Maurice nice to meet you. :-) Thats interesting I thought exhaust temp would be stable and more stable with fuel vapor. The guy you put me onto Lucky mention something about a 1:72 ratio but I would have to re read that. I have a unique carburetor called a reece fish and it has no jets but holes in the throttle shaft. I was thinking of using this. You can adjust the richness of liquid fuel by turning a grub screw inside the body of it. It runs a calibrated weir for fuel but this is all treating the fuel as a liquid. I have yet to try it on vapor. Have you tried an LPG carb.

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

No problem. Hi Maurice, nice to meet you too. :-) No I haven't tried LPG carburetor. Just for info, if you use completely vapor fuel, the air-fuel ratio is not critical anymore. This mixture has wider ratio band. It means that you can run your engine very lean to save fuel. I have read about reece fish carburetor but I don't really understand how it works and how it looks like. They say that you can get constant air fuel ratio within all RPM range and also won't stall on hard cornering because you don't have fuel bowl or something like that. But I really don't know... I just read it somewhere.. I think you can use that carb and build your system like Hot Vapor Adiabatic Engine from Smokey Yunick. I would like to see your findings with that.

@rattedbug5003

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Okki I thought a/f ratio was critical as I have seen videos of people stalling their engines with just the fuel vapor. They add extra air to adjust the ratio. What do you think?

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Please have a look on my old videos. I have posted very short videos showing my simple setup. Take a large jam jar, put gasoline (and water) in it, put submerged type water boiler, let the gasoline boil, mix this gasoline vapor with air and try to run your engine. Maybe you will get different result than mine. I could drive my car with this very simple system for a short distance.

The air valuve need to be controllable from the inside of the car at the driver wheel.

Hi Okki, both the vapor inlet and air inlet must have variable control valves linked to the gas pedal, try butterfly valves.

Okki, I agree with you on the injector. A new vaporiser injector could be better of all, i.e. the one that replaces standard injectors. You might be able to use diesel glow plugs as stoves for such devices.

@DoriFord

7 жыл бұрын

I must also add, although there is a benefit from than in theory, there's a practice. From the practice we know that a car runs better on cold fuel than hot fuel. (No reference to carb-ed cars, as the carburetors work not good until finally heated to the same temp as engines) So in high performance use there's benefit from an fuel radiator, such were installed in many race cars, including WRC, circuit, Nascar and, surprisingly, some W126 Mercedes for Japanese market, which used A/C to further cool the fuel.

@DoriFord

7 жыл бұрын

So there might be no benefit in running car on fuel vapour unless the vapor is cool. As the temperature gradient that it can produce is narrower when the fuel is hot.

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Hi DoriFord, thanks for your comments. Yes, it might be possible to use diesel glow plugs to vaporize the fuel, or maybe we can use it only at cold start. So that if the engine is hot, we can use the engine heat to vaporize the fuel. But we cannot use exhaust header heat to do that. I have once measured my header temperature during normal driving. The temperature varied very badly. I think we can still use exhaust gas heat but we have to build some kind of heat storage system to stabilize the temperature (some kind of mass heater maybe?). Regarding the air intake temperature that the colder the charge air, the more power engine will produce, I think this only applies on standard liquid gasoline system engine. I'm pretty sure that you are aware of "Adiabatic Engine" or "Hot Vapor Engine" from Smokey Yunick. He turned our basic understanding of internal combustion engine up side down.

@kusnezoff8705

3 жыл бұрын

@@DoriFord if you do what most people are doing in their vapour systems. we heat the fuel to make it vapouize easier and use a bubbler system to bubble air in the gasoline and route the vapour produced into the engine. there are a lot of these in cars and they work well. the simple ones work for a short period of time because the fuel gets too cold as it vapourizes and won't produce more vapour as easily. what this guy is doing is using another method to vapourize the fuel with direct heat in an enclosed system so it won't catch fire. it is an interesting idea. if he makes a fuel delivery system for his box then it will work no problem. getting that to work is the problem. as his vapour is produced the engine requires less fuel so shuts down the injectors. he needs to increase his injectors fuel.

Sharing aja, saya sudah pernah coba Mas, yang jadi kendala adalah perbandingan antara uap bensin dan udara yg pas. Saya gunakan 2 saluran 1 dari uap bensin yg disemburkan lewat pompa bensin dalam tabung dan 1 saluran lagi dari udara luar. Pada waktu stasioner baik, tapi pada waktu jalan kadang gas idle jadi tinggi, kadang tidak ada power di RPM 2000 lebih, mesin mau mati. Tabung yg saya semprot bensin sistemnya berputar aliran bensin, jadi setelah bensin disemprotkan ke dalam tabung dan butiran bensin yg turun akan kembali lagi masuk ke tangki bensin, guna menghidari terjadinya penumpukan bensin didasar tabung dan penuh. Untuk versi sederhananya saya buat sebelumnya dengan jirigen bekas udara luar masuk kedalam genangan bensin dan uapnya ditarik ke karburator. Pada waktu kondisi mobil diam terlihat sempurna, tp prakteknya pada waktu dijalankan tenaganya hilang di rpm 2000 keatas. Saya terapkan di Kijang Grand 93, 1500 cc(toyota 5K), karburator, cdi.

@OkkiMoeljadi

6 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih atas sharingnya. Kalau di sistem saya masalah yang saya lihat adalah pengaturan jumlah uap bensin. Saya belum coba dengan programmable ECU. Saya benar-benar tidak punya waktu untuk mengembangkan sistem ini sendirian. Satu hal yang menurut saya paling menarik adalah gas buang yang sama sekali tidak berbau.

THE SQUARE BOX THAT YOU REMOVED THE LID FROM, DID YOU MAKE THAT YOURSELF AND IS IT MADE OF STAINLESS STEEL ?? Thanks

hola, muy interesante tu video; he estado probando vaporizadores tipo burbujeador por un año y puedo decir que el sistema a vapor funciona; tengo muchas conclusiones en base a ensayo o error aprendí que hay teorías que funcionan otras no...en tu sistema recomendaría agregar una 2 válvulas check una para que entre mayor aire con combustible (que puede venir de un burbujeador de gasolina) a tu vaporizador cuando aceleras y la mezcla varíe ..y otra para evitar que el auto se ahogue por falta de aire (normalmente esta cerrada cuando aceleras el resorte abre y deja entrar mas aire)...he notado que el problema (perder potencia o apagar el auto) de aceleracion a rpm variables se puede solucionar utilizando el vacío de succión del motor...no veo un sistema de reabastecimiento automático ya sea una válvula flotador o una válvula selenoite con flotador...has pensado agregar?..el tema que aún voy a probar es 50% etanol o alcohol y 50% agua..y evitar la suciedad de la gasolina...hay patentes que hablan de ello...el tema del calor puedes usar el refrigerante y la resistencia electrica conectada a un termostato que solo se encargue de mantener la temperatura estable a 90 a 100 grados centigrados (en gasolina). En 75 grados en alcohol y agua a 100 grados (serían 2 vaporizadores juntos). Suerte cuando tenga mas avances los comento. estoy tratando de automatizar mis avances..Gracias por compartir es bueno saber que hay mas gente trabajando en esto..!!!

@OkkiMoeljadi

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment. I just translate it using google translate. I don't know if google translates your comment correctly or not. But thanks for your compliment and I wish you luck and much success with your project.

How many watts does the heater consume ??

Put a hollow metal ball between carb and intake manifold, atomizes and vaporizes gas, doubles gas mileage and cleans up emissions this is how Poque possibly did this .This works Please try this it works.

@OkkiMoeljadi

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, I watched your videos. I will try your idea someday. Thanks for the info!

Hi If you can use the heat made by the exhaust,then you would not need the electric heater. Or are you using it just for a test. I hope to see more and the very best of luck to you Sir.

@OkkiMoeljadi

4 жыл бұрын

This was just a test. It was a successful test. In Germany you cannot put something like this and pass the TÜV inspection. That's why I designed this device this way.

no backfire stop ?

Do you still have this system on your car now, or a different system?

Ok, I saw it. congratulations

Mantaaap Mas!!! kreatif dan aplikatif sekali...

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih mas Hamas Ghra. Silakan dicoba dan dikembangkan.

@hamasgrha4773

7 жыл бұрын

Saya sedang mencoba menerapkan plasma spark di motor bajaj 180cc plus HHO nya Mas...cuma keterbatasan ilmu elektronika, jadi masih berjuang di skema elektroniknya..utk HHO generatornya sudah saya buat via cnc...mungkin Mas Okki punya saran,bagaimana skema plasma ignition di motor,via Aki atau Spull motor secara langsung...tks dan sukses selalu

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Coba konsultasi ke bengkel motor terdekat. Kalau perlu tunjukkan video-video saya. Semuanya sudah saya upload. Selamat berjuang, semoga sukses!

u need to use ported vacume and all your vichles injectors your intake it too restricted.it can work

I was running out of gas and forgot my money/creditcard at home and was forced to drive home on very little fuel (about a gallon) and made it home but I was literally driving on the fumes in my gas tank. So I know it does work.

putting the injector on a pulse rate on/off so to speak , like on a timer for on and off hence pulse rate .

@OkkiMoeljadi

6 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I want to do with programmable ECU.

Hi Okki. I like your Vapor system. Have you considered bypassing all the injectors altogether ? Injectors are normally closed, so just unplug them. Run your Vapor directly inside the air intake. Have you considered this idea ? , Best wishes. I truly enjoy the videos. Thanks for sharing with us all.

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike. I don't understand what you mean. If I unplug the injectors, how can I get the fuel?

@MikePoirier

7 жыл бұрын

Think about it this way. If you were converting a lawnmower engine to vapor. You would put the vapor into the air intake. No need for a carburetor, just a simple air control valve. BTW the injectors where introduced to be able to bypass vapor, as people had figured out how to get over 100 MPG. So these greedy company wanted to use liquid and control the amount. Anyway. unplug the injectors and put your vapor into the air intake. I have seen it done on KZread, do a search. You may have to control the ignition firring the old way, and DISABLE the engine computer, and or turn off the alarm. Anyway. Best wishes.

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike. Converting a car engine to run on vapor is not as easy as converting a lawnmower motor. On car engine you have wide range of engine rpm with wide range of engine load. KZread is a very good media, only by seeing it done on KZread doesn't mean that things can be done that way. Many people make everything looks easy on KZread until you try it yourself. If I put a vacuum line directly from the top of gas tank, I would be able to run my engine. But I see at least two problems here. First: the liquid gasoline in the tank will be colder and colder over time until it hardly vaporize and second: I would leave my tank dirty of this brown black thick wax left over by the gasoline. But thank you very much for your attention, suggestion and positive comments.

@MikePoirier

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seems easy to see others doing it. Do not give up Okki, with practice you'll get more experience and skills. And one day, it will become easy for you too. You will succeed. It takes time, focus and determination. Never give up ! Keep posting video's. I'll watch them. Cheers Bro.

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your support Bro! :-)

Hi OKKI, I like your video's, but have a suggestion, instead of using manual valves to control the flow of your air mixture, why not use one way check valves. This should let the intake control it's own air flow. Thanks for your video's and keep them coming, great work!

@OkkiMoeljadi

6 жыл бұрын

Hi William, this is early stage of my prototype. There are so many things that can be done to optimize this system. Thanks for commenting and liking.

@jesusisreal3209

2 жыл бұрын

@@OkkiMoeljadi great job how has everything been going? I seen @ 600°heater plate gasoline vaporizes into a white fog , no apparent residue, there is a older guy on here also showing water turning into flammable gas when misted on a 230° hot plate

@OkkiMoeljadi

2 жыл бұрын

@@jesusisreal3209 I know that video as well. I'm going to continue this research. Please be patient.

Have you ever tried using alcohol or ethanol, instead of gasoline? Might work better, because it has less contaminates. Henry Ford used ethanol alcohol for fuel, on his early prototype cars.

@OkkiMoeljadi

5 жыл бұрын

No, not yet. But we can use distilled gasoline as well on this system.

The tank needs to be tallerand you need to be able to have like a pint or a half gallon in it. Your getting a fuel compression in there.

On your next video you should invite more kids from the neighborhood over so that they can scream and yell too that way we wouldn’t be able to hear you at all instead of just part of the time

The Carl There ins't hace 220v.

Can you send me explicit diagrams of what you made? I wanna try it! Thanks

@OkkiMoeljadi

6 жыл бұрын

I don't have any other diagram. You can see my development of this system on my "Fuel Vapor" playlist.

@keithc8108

4 жыл бұрын

@@OkkiMoeljadi what is your email address? I want to make a purchase.

nice but u dont need a ecu. just a pwm to low the puse of the injetor. do the engine will be more efficient.

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Hi kefferson araujo. I don't want to mess with my standard ECU again. I have destroyed my standard ECU already during testing. Thank God that I could repair it by myself.

@OkkiMoeljadi

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Kefferson, I have been thinking about your statement to modify pulse width from standard ECU. I don't think it will work, because vapor fuel needs different mapping, we cannot use liquid fuel map for that. Yes with vapor the engine will be more efficient.

@kefferson07

7 жыл бұрын

lets try to make one just for vapor heheheh you are the man

Bro.. itu pemanasnya bisa di buat dari arus DC kan ?, biar gak sah pake converter dan saya liat ada juga orang yg sudah pake ultrasonik

@OkkiMoeljadi

Жыл бұрын

Iya, bisa.

something I commented onI might have a cxouple of suggestions that will improve your setup. My brother and his friend made a headgasket with four sets of platinum points equally mounted around the cylinder. It was layered in between the gasket material like a circuit board. So instead of firing from the spark plug it fired from each set of points. The platinum points had no place to hold any carbon build up so would not foul out like a spark plug. and firing the gas mixture with four sets of spark burned the fuel vapor quicker and more completely.(old airplanes had two sparkplugs per cylinder) Giving an increase of power with less fuel consumtion and less emissions. My idea to add to this is to reduce fuel droplet size thus increasing surface area of the fuel by using an ultrasonic mister which instantly vaporizes a drop of liquid to a finer mist than a carburator is capable of. This should also increase power while decreasing consumption andEmmisions. The reason you do not see this gasket method of spark on the market now is a sparkplug company bought their patent. Their was a drawback to the design they had not worked out at the time and that was that the gasket was thicker and you had to torque it down just right or it would blow the gasket. But this was 40 years ago and we have much better materials to work with now. I really hope you read this or anyone else . It could be an easy add on for cars well worth the cost for the increased economy and decrease of emmisions. Hopefully give a little more time for the transition to the totally electric cars that are coming. Jake The Snake Was interested in the gasket for his race cars as it would have been a huge advantage. So if you need an investor you might want to try him. It also goes to show how money trumps humanityand that big corporations (Firestone) are more concerned with the bottom line than reducing polution to save mankind. We really need to institute a crimes against humanity law for people like that and Big Pharma who suppress or overprice discoveries that benefit life.. Please send a comment should you read this. I like to think I am at least trying yo help.

@OkkiMoeljadi

Жыл бұрын

Hi Kenneth. Thank you for your explanation. I think I got it. It is a clever way to ignite the fuel mixture without a spark plug. Can we write email? Here is my email address: info@m-opensolutions.com

add glow plug inside the tank.in my own observation the gasoline will never get flat for an hours

Can you show us how well your car runs with this system?

@OkkiMoeljadi

5 жыл бұрын

No, not at this moment. This research is not finished yet. I'm busy with many other things right now. I can assure you that this technique works, we just need to control the mixture according to engine load. My system like you see on this video is good for static load. I have tested it on "Autobahn" with speed of 90 to 100 km/h.

Like a oxy fuel acetylene cutting torch touch.

Good experimenting. However, there is an abundant amount of heat and resources under the hood for you to be using something that's just going to weigh down your alternator and offset some of the gains that you seek. Begin by tapping into the heat on the exhaust manifold instead.

@OkkiMoeljadi

4 жыл бұрын

I have to make this system portable because the German car inspector (TÜV) won't allow me to have this at the time of inspection. You will also have problems if you use exhaust heat as the temperature is not stable. You can use coolant heat instead.

@mpgundercover8075

4 жыл бұрын

@@OkkiMoeljadi I meant the exhaust as in the exhaust manifold. That thing remains above boiling no matter what, once the car reaches full operating temperature.

@OkkiMoeljadi

4 жыл бұрын

@@mpgundercover8075 yes, that what I meant. I don't want to argue about this. I have measured the temperature of my exhaust manifold on my car while running. Just build your gas-vaporizer and use your exhaust manifold heat to vaporize your gasoline, you will see that it is very difficult to vaporize the right amount of gasoline if the vaporizer temperature vary very badly.

Mas bagaimana kalo make mist maker untuk membuat kabutnya mas?

@OkkiMoeljadi

4 жыл бұрын

Bisa juga. Cuma setahu saya membrannya nggak tahan lama.

@DSKIRANACHANNEL

4 жыл бұрын

Oke deh mksh infonya

The petrol vapour just burns inside your vapouriser itself as it got enough heat ,air, fuel.

why you need stove for.. gasoline automatically turn vapour.. + engine suction make it easier.. isnt it?

@OkkiMoeljadi

3 жыл бұрын

That's not quite correct.

The air intake should be close to the bottom

Why wouldn't you get your heat from the exhaust manifold? Wrap some copper tubing around it

@OkkiMoeljadi

Жыл бұрын

No I cannot do that. Manifold temperature varies too much. I have measured my manifold temperature during driving and the result was not satisfying.

@gustywinds5490

Жыл бұрын

I'd thought that running it through a propane system might improve performance because it has the mixer which works on vapor from a vaporizer....425 mixer from model e vap/reg....but you need something to get the temps first ...ie: normal start and a regulator which delivers fuel at propane pressure .....which is fairly low .......

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I admire what you have done. However you went the long and expensive way around doing this. Instead of using a heating element that must be plugged in, simply use heat off your heater hose. Put a copper tube on the interior of the vaporizer and connect the heater hose to that. Next, why are you using a fuel injector? Although I completely agree with having a switch to turn off the engines injectors I just think putting a single injector in the vaporizer is a bad idea. If your goal is to have only a small amount of fuel contained under the hood then use about four injectors, maybe on multiple sides of the container. Personally, a fitting container with a transducer would work best as it turns the petrol into a fog. If you ever do this, you must tear off the rubber sensor on the ultrasonic fogger, fill the holes with a conductive metal and seal it off because gasoline will cause the transducer to malfunction if this is not done. In reality one needs neither. A simple bubbler system will work but I do no recommed that unless experimenting.

@OkkiMoeljadi

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your feedback. I came up with this setup because I wanted to have a system which is portable where I can install and remove it quickly. In this country where I live all vehicles on the road have to pass periodical inspection and I had that problem already as the TÜV technician told me that he understood my device but he could not pass my car as long as I have this device on my car. I have driven my car also with only bubbler. The problem with bubbler is that the gasoline gets colder over time until you reach a point you won't get enough vapor to run the engine. I have tried heated bubbler as well, it worked better. You can see some of my setups on my channel. I would like to build a system like "Hot Vapor Engine" from Smokey Yunick utilizing fuel injection instead of carburetor. I will do that as soon as I moved away from this country. Hopefully this year.

@gustywinds5490

Жыл бұрын

Can prolly use a impco model j to vaporize of the rad.... controls the heat nicely....

terlalu komplex pak kalo menurut saya , dan berbahaya , lebih aman gunakan vacuum dari mesin .. inverter yg digunakan butuh listrik juga dari alternator.. berarti sudah ada energy yg dibuang utk membuat vapor ..penghematan yg diharapkan dari vapor fuel sebagian sudah terbuang utk beban listrik yg lebih besar..cmiiw...

@OkkiMoeljadi

Жыл бұрын

Saya sudah nyoba yang sederhana, hasilnya tidak bagus. Ini juga belum sempurna, tapi sudah lebih bagus dari versi saya sebelumnya. Paling tidak saya bisa jalan di Autobahn dengan ini.

You should get a psi gas regulater

If you have like 5 to start with youll have a valuve system and can regulate it betterbfor you next build.

Your system is getting under alot of pressure so you need many pressure injecter release valuve like hits of noss

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Waste of time. No project like this...there have been many...ever advances from this primitive stage.