Could this be the start to safer cycling on the roads?

@viralhype_

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm... because all the dash cameras that are around in motor vehicles have improved driving safety? 🤔🤣🤣

@JB-uv4hm

2 жыл бұрын

No.

can't wait for the front camera with radar/crash detection. great quick review!

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary! A massive move to safer roads 🙌

@garyfodden5034

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiggle Absolutely. sad that we have to resort to such things but it's how things are now. 5* to Wiggle

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

100% sad times... but as you say, it is what it is! Safe riding Gary

@chriscohlmeyer4735

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiggle a front camera would be nice instead of the rubber streak as evidence and the word of the bystanders if you didn't manage to stop in time. Some have been complaining about "only 1080", well if you are really into doing videos you should have much better cameras for that and leave this Varia to recording the SOB drivers as evidence for the police. Definitely a few things that should be improved like the lens/light cover then again get a cover film for a smart phone and cut to size, if it gets scratched up then peel it off and put another one on.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriscohlmeyer4735 Good points Chris. Some swapable lens covers would be a great idea. I can only imagine Garmin will introduce a front version camera to complete the setup but who knows! agree the 1080 is more than sufficient for "safety" purposes and a 4k output would just take up mega amounts of space!

10:11 we have plenty of local riders using Cycliq lights / camera. They’ve been around a long time so it’s nice to see Garmin catching up. I own the original rectangular Varia and the rtl515… hate cycling without them now 👍

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Cycliq have done a cracking job and you're right... we've all been waiting for Garmin to add it into the Varia for YEARS!!! Love your work KOM Hunter 👑

@KOMshorts

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiggle Cycliq did a nice group club discount if so many ordered but pairing the recording with the radar should be epic win for Garmin. Liking these relaxed / first overview looks vids 👍👍

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

A club discount would be a mega idea. The more of these out on the roads the better! Thanks KOM, good feedback always goes down a treat 🤙🤙🤙

Nice video! I have the old one i couldn’t ride without ! Just a question : what is your map background please in your computer? Thanks bro.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I believe it's a new map that will be out soon! I'll keep you posted on this one

The price point on this compared to the RTL515 is ridiculous considering the quality of the camera, if it was 4k it would really be worth it but for the extra £180 for that camera quality is so poor!

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Would have been nice to see a 4k for sure!

@shaunmcdonough4642

2 жыл бұрын

The maximum storage capacity is 128Gb. At 4K it would fill up in 30 minutes or so. Also, it would drain the battery much faster. The device is meant to start at the beginning of your ride and forget about it.

@MarcoTheGreat2008

2 жыл бұрын

You don't need 4k for this camera to function. 60fps is the lacking feature that is required for clarity of registration plates from fast-passing vehicles in low-light conditions.

@shaunmcdonough4642

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcoTheGreat2008 Absolutely not! 4K on a small camera sensor equals poor quality and even worse low light performance. A good place to start by following the drone industry. I've got DJI Mini 2 drone. It's a really small drone with small camera sensor. Great video during the day, but horrible/non-existent video at night. The Mini 3 has just been released and they upped the sensor size. Much better night photography and also much better at capturing speed. Bigger sensors have bigger pixels which capture more light, which allow higher shutter speeds to stop motion blur. Can't make out someone's license at 100 meters. At some point the vehicle has get close enough to hit you. Last, both digital and optical stabilization do take a lot of processing, which run the battery down fast. The Go Pro DCR mentioned only has an hour long battery. This is probably from image stabilization and high resolution capture. Don't forget this also has to power radar and the light.

@shaunmcdonough4642

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcoTheGreat2008Cus nothing stops a car going 500 miles per hour like camera shooting 60fps!

I already use the RTL515, but this is a gamechanger. Interested if they are thinking of doing the same with the front light & having a camera combination?

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Surely would be a good idea... time will tell!

Do u see the things behind u in the app in real time? Or it’s the recording that u see later

The mount looks like a different size compared the the 515 radar unit, is it? Does this one twist into the old, standard Garmin lock?

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

It's a new mount with a different connection so no cross compatibility

What type of bike computer do you recommend?

I’ll say this is the first fully positive review I’ve seen, but not sure how i feel about a light review that didn’t test at night

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly just didn’t get the chance… it’s as you’d expect really. Not superb but can usually still make out plates when they are pretty close to you. Hope that helps

When my Cycliq gives up the ghost, I’ll look into one of these.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

good shout. I rated the Cycliq camera when it came out... and if it's still working... keep it going!

@tonycrabtree3416

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiggle I’m one of the few that my v6 v2 is still working. The button covers are gone though. LOL.

The cycliq Gen 2 I have records either 1080 60fps or 30fps with image stabilisation. The garmin need image stabilisation to avoid camera shake. I use it conjunction with a Varia 515. Hopefully by the time I need to upgrade garmin will have improved the roofing quality. I’ve seen footage of its use at night and it’s awful. Same as the cycliq camera. Only worth buying if you don’t cycle at night. At least it’s a start Garmin.

This is just the start. The camera will only get better

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

The beginning of something great 🙌

Any news of a new Garmin edge unit? To go with the new light 💡.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

No news on this at the mo!

Will this be able on cycle to work? Some treat this and cycliq like action cameras when they are actually for safety…

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Good question… I wouldn’t be 100% on this but surely this is road safety and couldn’t be more appropriate for a C2W!

I saw the review from DC Rainmaker for this device. This is a bit misleading as the device is not a go pro competitor rather it is for recording footage that could be use in case of an incident (hopefully not accident). So to compare this device using a go pro as its use case is imho incorrect. Please note, I am a Garmin user, II do find some of their product design choices annoying.

Is it possible to use the radar without any light mode?

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Frank, a good question. I've not actually tried this yet! I'll give it a go and get back to you

@champtech8755

2 жыл бұрын

From other reviews it looks like you can turn the light off. That’s what I was looking for too.

Does it connect to a wahoo ELEMNT bolt like the old one?

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Sure does 👍

The lock on the camera mount is irrelevant because it’s still mounted with the rubber bands to the seat post. So what’s the point of the lock on the mount if you lose the camera WITH the mount.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you mean... the rubber mounts are pretty secure and the new mount stops the chance of the twist action allowing the unit to drop off 👍

When's it available to buy?

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Very shortly... should be live on the Wiggle site later today

Bonjour Merci pour la Vidéo Je trouve le prix Abusif pour l'ajout d'une simple caméra de moindre qualité qui plus est! Vendu à 399 € en France! Je vais attendre que le prix baisse, ou alors m'acheter une petite caméra de meilleure qualité ! Bonne continuation

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Salut, ce n'est pas un appareil bon marché, mais étant donné qu'il a le radar de vue arrière intégré, ce n'est pas trop mal. Si vous ne voulez que l'appareil photo, il existe des options nettement moins chères.

@JackyWallet

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiggle Merci, pour aujourd'hui je continuerais d'utiliser mon Garmin RTL 510 plus de satisfaisant depuis que je l'utilise 😉 En dessous de 300 € je l'achèterais probablement ;) NB: vous avez un modèle de caméra à me recommander ?...merci !

RCT stands for Radar Camera Taillight

Well done Wiggle for employing Ben Affleck to do reviews 😅

Bad drivers in the UK? Dude you obviously have not visited South Africa. I reckon I could start my own channel " Douch bag drivers captured" and upload daily just with the amount of them.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

😅 I'd 100% subscribe to that channel... make it happen!

For a premium "priced" product Garmin have certainly dropped the ball on so many basics and quite frankly obvious issues. This is a REAR mounted unit... how long will the lenses last considering that there is no cover and that this is a fixed lenses so debris, mud, stones, sealent... ALL everyday items will have this unit rendered an expensive brick in next to not time. 16GB card and 1080 res, sorry in this day and age that on a product in this price range is bordering on obnoxious. Access to the SD media is finicky... to say the least The app / features are really shocking poor, no discernible icon on your head set to let you know if the camera is on / recording / if indeed it has captured All in all pretty poor releasing a product that has so many issues I'll save my money till these basic issues are addressed. Love Varia but this just seems to be cashing in on those that don't have it already. Shame great shame.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe, cycliq computer's seem to have worked ok so i'm hoping the 715 will do too. 16gb card is a bit stingy I agree and 4k would have been a nice touch. hoping we will see some firmware updates should address the problems with the app, but your right it shouldn't have these initial bugs at launch. Poping the SD card out into a computer seemed the easiest way to review the footage for sure. Thanks for the feedback👍

@joelyons886

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiggle as a product and the purpose of it Varia is and should be lauded it's a fantastic piece of rider safety equipment and THAT for me is the main purpose of this RIDER safety. It's just a shame that something that could and no doubt will be a game changer was launched without these issues been identified.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelyons886 100% with you 🙌

too many bad reviews just now, Garmin need to do some improvements

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

With a few firmware updates i'm sure the initial bugs should be fixed🤞

no live view😔

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

would have been fun... but you know... safety first n all that!

The "high" video resolution is so poor, probably due to lack of stabilization, that you cannot even make out a license plate. It was a waste of $400.

camera needs stabilizing at at minimum...... Cycliq camera are old and considerably better......and Garmin is producing new cycling camera products and has scrapped Garmin verb.... I would have brought one immediately but I guess I will wait for version 2

It needs the live view thats integral at this price point, it's aboslutely no different to looking at a rear view mirror which are fitted to nearly every vehicle on the road. This is a rubbish product with very old technology unfortunately, I really had high hopes.

@wiggle

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame the rear view mirror tech isn't allowed... You're allowed to look at a mirror but not at a screen 😑

Disappointing for the price. No stabilization.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

yeah would have been nice to see... hopefully they will include it in an update

@shaunmcdonough4642

2 жыл бұрын

Don't count on seeing stabilization. Stabilization takes a lot of processing which runs the battery down. Just look at similar products. Gopro comes to mind - 1.5 hr battery @ 4K & stabilization Cycliq - 4hrs @ 1k w/o stabilization. Garmin 715rlc - 6hrs w/ radar, lights & camera. I think that Garmin did a great job with this unit considering the restraints. Definitely not perfect, but this should work great safety and accident recording.

@Roy-ud1db

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaunmcdonough4642 sure, but for short commutes, it would be handy. Could always turn off stabilisation for longer rides.

@shaunmcdonough4642

2 жыл бұрын

@@Roy-ud1db personally I wouldn't give stabilization. With stabilization it'll need a bigger processor and battery. Then people will ding Garmin for making a product that has really short battery life and potentiallying overheats.

@shaunmcdonough4642

2 жыл бұрын

@@Roy-ud1db If you absolutely have to have stabilization, I would upload my video to your computer and find a program that can digitally stabilize your video.

It’s rubbish. No Stabilisation, and crap user interface. Look at the DC Rainmaker review !

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

The camera isn't amazing by any standards... but to be fair it captures what you need for reading plates and crash scenarios. Hope that app gets an update which should fix the bugs, I took the card out when looking at the videos and it worked great.

@shaunmcdonough4642

2 жыл бұрын

4k will fill your memory really fast. Also, it would drain your battery probably faster than that. They have to increase the size of the battery by quite a bit and there goes the weight. Optical stabilization requires more processing and would have to less resolution than what the camera is capable of. Again, draining the battery.

@vankerkiller6369

Жыл бұрын

I saw the review from DCR, but this is a bit misleading as the device is not a go pro competitor rather it is for recording footage that could be use in case of an incident (hopefully not accident). So to review the device using a go pro as the use case is imho incorrect.

game changer? realy? at least mention this video is an advertisment and not a review

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

No ads here… anything to make us safer on the roads is a win for me 💪

If it isn’t easy to initiate, save and access the files, it’s just an expensive pile of 💩.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

It's genuinely a super easy set and forget device. When you need to view a crash or incident just plug the SD card into a computer and use the simple file system... the apps not great but should get fixed with an update 🤞

What an awful review. Doesn't deal or mention all the faults with the unit that everyone else have mentioned. Especially as it is not just one or two issues. But then again you are selling it. Currently it's not worth buying it with all of its faults.

@wiggle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Mark

Wait wait wait. There's no "live view"... because it's a distraction? You imply this is the reason Garmin did not give it to us. Did Garmin say that or did you fabricate a fact? This is dishonest journalism. You don't know the truth, but you push your imagination as if it were. I believe the reason for no "live view" is purely technical; a constant video feed would drain the battery.