4 cores (or even 2c/4t) appear to be the absolute minimum these days for just about any workload. It would be interesting to experiment with a modern 2c/4t chip - see how the performance and compatibility change with hyperthreading on and off.

@Direwoof

Жыл бұрын

ye idk why they even make these processors any more. Not worth it at all cause you still need a motherbaord for it.

@atom608

Жыл бұрын

2 core 4 thread Cpus are fine for web browsing or doing school homework like on my 7th gen U series Intel surfacebook pro it does fine.

@joshuagaona1274

Жыл бұрын

@@Direwoof for cheap prebuilts

@zack88005

Жыл бұрын

@@Direwoof for chromebooks

@panzerchaos47

Жыл бұрын

Yeah even the FX 8350 can outperform. I have both G3900 and the FX 8350 playing Valorant and FX 8350 is supposed to be the huge loser. G3900 easily scores over 750 pts while the FX8350 score above 600 pts if not overclocked. Huge advantage is the multi core. On Varorant g3900 struggles to maintain 100 fps on low at 1080p on a clean installation of Windows 10. Both cores keep getting maxed out. FX had cpu usage spread out to 6 cores. Both systems had RX550 and FX system had 4gbs ddr3 at 1866 while g3900 had 16gb ddr4 at 2133.

Thanks for doing this in the name of science

@thekickanoragm8559

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Jose Montero! Yes Science!

@eu0102

Жыл бұрын

@@thekickanoragm8559 yeah mista white,yes science

@cvspvr

Жыл бұрын

@@thekickanoragm8559 jose, we have to cook!

Option #1 is the way to go, the #2 can only be used as a cashier machine... or give it to someone you hate 😈

@theinktician

Жыл бұрын

cashier machine? Not a cash register?

@supersolidsnake7772

Жыл бұрын

@@theinktician they probably mean a POS system. I found it pretty funny however my work is still utilizing windows server 2003 as the main os for the server. Cant imagine what hardware its running.

@MrSamadolfo

Жыл бұрын

😊 option 1 is basically an AMD Laptop

@finnbianga4189

Жыл бұрын

@@supersolidsnake7772 probably a pentium 3 or 4

@iSamYTBackup

Жыл бұрын

@@finnbianga4189 or a early 2000s xeon yes they existed

Great video. Absolutely no question I would go with system #1 if I had to be stuck with one of these for a year. APUs are getting really good as of late, and for folks on a budget it's a viable option.

@VikingDudee

Жыл бұрын

Be cool to see AMD put like a 1gb or 2 of HBM memory on the CPU die and use the ram as overflow, Most APU's limiting factor is the ram, even fast ram can still hold them back, bee cool to see where they can go, I like the idea of good performing APU's, but until FSR starts to be more widely adopted, im not too intrested considering how cheap old gen GPU's are like the 1060 or 970 or or even RX470 or 480s.

THANK YOU! I've been saying for someone to run a Celeron if you want to try extreme budget and see how it goes... Now you combined a 3080 with a Celeron but it's still pretty funny to see... awesome freaking video brother. To everyone, go ahead and buy his scam of a CPU and see where it gets you. i would also choose system 1, i would just play total war Rome 2 on medium settings for an entire year, that's a very good year in gaming for me.

@theinktician

Жыл бұрын

They do make 4 core 4 thread celerons now, but like you said - its basically a scam. No one in their right mind would buy one for gaming (or anything meaningful really)

@ARCAD3BLOOD

Жыл бұрын

@@theinktician A scam? For what? 25$? If intel would like to scam you, you wouldn't even knew where your money went. Celeron is a bottom line for people that needs to buy pc's in bulk, but doesn't extend it's use above excel and few chrome tabs. which usually is medium size companies. pentium was a gaming bare minimum for a while. and i3 is pretty good processor now, and pretty cheap.

@alpzepta

2 ай бұрын

@@ARCAD3BLOOD AMD Athlon could be a better alternative

@ARCAD3BLOOD

2 ай бұрын

@@alpzepta No. Athlon is a better alternative for you.

The APU system without question. I’ve used Ryzen APUs for video editing and it worked great. The Celeron/3080 system is a tease, you’ve got so much potential there but you can’t utilise any of it for most tasks or workloads.

@peterpan408

Жыл бұрын

That 3080 needs a thread just for the driver 🤣 So: 1T - gpu driver. 2 to 4 threads for the game. 2 to 4 threads to keep the OS happy. 2 threads for other junk. Therefore 4C/8T is the realistic minimum. Nominal is 6C12T. And 8C/16T is better!

love ur vids man budget builds are awsome great content

The best part about the Ryzen build is the room for upgrades, it's easy enough to add in a decent card later on

Cool to see you break it down like that. Thanks for the educational content!

Was spectre/meltdown protection enabled? Because in my experience it absolutely destroys performance and I'm using a hyper threaded 2c (albeit not to such an extreme that it struggles to update games and open a Web browser at the same time) I'm curious to see if that celeron would be somewhat usable with that stuff disabled. As for the system I'd choose, I was gonna say 2 so I cam sell the 3080, get a better cpu then use a lower end gpu like a 1030 or something for a faster and more balanced system, but since that's not allowed, option 1 is the only option

System#2 is like a twisted wish fulfillment from a genie where someone wished for a PC with a 3080 and got this.

People fail to realize. The celeron 10th gen 2C/2T is nothing more but core 2 duo architecture from 12 years ago, except celeron has modern instruction sets that the core 2 duo didn’t. The price looks right to the celeron at $25 where as the core 2 duo as of release sold for as high as $240

i love the new ryzen mini pcs with the ability for thunderbolt or m.2 x4 slots to "add in" an external gpu if you really wish , some of those chips really have some legs. finding a gen 4 x.4 to 16x slot is quite difficult still.

ngl not bad, it was fun seeing how it would perform with big title games

Would have been interesting to see what the iGPU on the Celeron is like. If it's even possible to play old games for example and how does it cope with basic office tasks like Word and Excel and web browsing. Clearly it's useless for modern gaming, but it's use case is ultra-budget office PCs (if you can actually buy it for $25). Obviously I'd choose option 1, because that Ryzen is an excellent 6 core CPU with a great iGPU so it's a balanced system for everyday use and even some modern games on low settings. Anyone on a budget, getting into PC gaming would be wise to get the R4600G because you can game on low settings while you save up for a GPU like a RX 6600 or higher and that would pair well for a reasonable price overall.

I have a i5 2400 and not a lot to upgrade any recommendations? Used or new

what do you think about dual xeon e5 2697v2 + gtx 1650. 64gb ram , is not last gen hardware but is handling good

Thanks for the video thats a little different. The Celerons can be useful for updating the bios on motherboards and also to power up and test an unknown used flaky motherboard so it could be useful to have a celeron and or a pentium from each generation of intel in your tool box. As far as further testing I appreciate the 2 core 2 thread tests but do you have any idea why some of the lighter games didnt load? Is the Celeron misssing Cpu Instruction Sets? For further testing could you followup by purchasing the next step up in processor power which would be the cpus with 2 cores and 4 threads, they are sometimes called Pentium but back in the day they were called i3. I think the bare minimum are the 2c 4thread cpu's for office work, browsing, and lighter video games. For pc building videos what I do to change it up is look at videos broadcasting from other countries such as brasil arentina chile and central america and mexico and india. Its interesting to see how they improvise with older pc parts and slower video cards. For example rite now in brasil the RX 460 4GB is considered the 750ti for the masses. If u have some spare time and spare money it could be useful to buy all the low tier video cards for testing and benchmarks and more 2c 4thread cpus, some parts just never seem to go away.

@ARCAD3BLOOD

Жыл бұрын

i3 from this edition is a 4 cores 8 threads, respectable processor and is cheaper than pentium.

Thanks for doing that. What I can personally recommend is to test out the i3-10105F (around 65€ here). I choosed it over the Ryzen 5 and never expected it to be that good. It keeps up during gaming (paired with a 1660S) and makes my main reason, programming, a lot faster than previously.

I think with a $25 CPU budget you're better off going with something like a used i5-3470 (4-core/4-thread) on ebay which is what my old & now backup system has in it. I was able to play pretty much everything I play now on my new system (5600X) but with slightly lower settings. I think Intel should just abandon the Celeron line. It has been pretty lackluster for many years now & imo needs to retire. To choose between strictly these 2 then obviously to me the APU system # 1 is the way to go then upgrading the GPU later on would be ideal.

@theinktician

Жыл бұрын

There are some Xeons out there with 4 cores 8 threads for under $10. Sometimes under $5. You just have to be willing to build with older parts and DDR3, or put in the effort to find the right board. And i agree - they shouldve abandoned Celeron ages ago - the year they introduced Pentium

@AlfaPro1337

Жыл бұрын

Anything below Haswell is too dated, and parts are difficult to find. Even if I managed to find one, the motherboard has a very short life, faulty USB ports, faulty PCI/E slot. Oddly, OEM branded boards, like Dell, HP, or Acer (if they conform to standard form factor) works better, albeit from weird restrictions, for example, GeForce 500 series only. I wouldn't go with AMD APU, since the RX Flop series/Flop VII can't beat the Titan V/RTX at all. No idea why they put a so-called Titan killer architecture on the CPU. They should've use and repurposed the RX 4/500M.

@MrSamadolfo

Жыл бұрын

They are handy if u need something to boot up a motherboard and flash the bios and to do initial tests but yeah for a daily driver step up to something with at least 2c 4t

@cauywarner7136

Жыл бұрын

I got my i7-3770 for $30, used. Still runs decent for most games with my RTX 3060. Definitely looking to upgrade tho because it's a bottleneck but most everything is playable on medium settings 60fps.

@AlfaPro1337

Жыл бұрын

@@cauywarner7136 The 10th gen and newer i3 smokes Kaby Lake and older i7, maybe considering retiring them.

I would choose system one ever day of the week. My secondary system is a 5700g, i am actually shock over how good it runs. It do have 32g 3600 MHz ram, so the vram can be set to 4/8 gb

Fantastic stuff as always Danny. If I had a choice, it would be system #1 with the R5 4600G all day. It’s solid APU that does a decent job. With the right motherboard and CPU cooler you can overclock the processor leading to slightly better numbers. It may cost more, but spending the money is definitely worth it in this case.

@Jwellsuhhuh

Жыл бұрын

System 2 would be a great build for a McDonald’s order booth. Those lag spikes are sure to keep customers busy struggling to navigate the menus

@GetOffMyPhoneGoogle

Жыл бұрын

You can also just throw a gpu in it later as well. I actually have a 6400 that I threw in a SFF and it can run all modern games at 1080p 60fps.

@reimon5410

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jwellsuhhuh ongod bruh them McDonald's self service machines take like 2 years to register each input

Love the Chrono Trigger sounds. Great video

@nerdonabudget

Жыл бұрын

Glad you recognized them! Not many do, to many they just sound like generic game sound effects haha

Hey great video, I was hoping you'd try out an AMD card as they have less of a hit on the cpu compared to nVidia, might be worth a third look. Or maybe not seeing how it won't run a bunch of games at all

You should do a video on the Chuwi LarkBox Pro. It’s a Chuwi mini PC that costs 170$ brand new. It has a 4c/4t Celeron J4125 and the integrated UHD 600. I love mine and it would be great if you live with some of the following: Power Outages/Low Power available, Low Space, Low Budget and Poor used market.

@MrSamadolfo

Жыл бұрын

😊 yes mini pcs look super cute, the integrated graphics are getting better

@finnbianga4189

Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, that cpu is the minimum requirement for minecraft bedrock edition. So it can game lol

Have you done a build with the RTX a2000?

could you please make video compareing 2nd gen core 2 duo E8300 vs 10gen celeron both have 2 cores.

Is a ryzen 5 5600g much much better than what you used here?

Celeron is used for bios update and testing of motherboard in repair process

You should test out the Celeron G6900, It would be interesting to see a 2 generation jump.

@endless2239

Жыл бұрын

@@marvinmallette6795 is also worthless as the celeron G6900 cost $80 and the pentium G7400 cost $90, and a i3 $107, the jump in performance per $ is really big. also someone mentioned opening the games the celeron in this video failed with the G7400, so that's already a big improvement.

Love this video

I just ordered a i5-3470 Quad-Core Processor 3.2 GHz 4 Core refurbished for $23. I'm new at this, but it should work for my needs.. just some live streaming and light editing, oh and 16gigs of ram. any feedback?

Which CPU do you recommend for GTX 1650?

6:30 I got the same problem on my old Xeon x5690 from 2011, the problem is cause by the RivaTunner statistic open in background, if you close it, it would be correct but you need that to benchmark.

if i wanted you to review my game project on the channel, would that be possible or you don't make game videos ?

What phone is that he has please, and what case? First time viewer and I like his phone!

So my biggest question then is, would it be the cheapest to build those super cheap apu builds and then add a graphics card, or if u were intending to buy a graphics card to begin with, go with a older budget cpu and match it with that?

Option 1 for sure I don’t really see why someone would choose option 2 as it couldn’t run many games

Hi Danny, loved the video. I would take system one it is like yo said it is more versatile.

This person is the very definition of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It should go without saying, I'd go with the first system.

what about the 4 core celeron processors? I would love to see how it works in a mini pc build, play a game like Skyrim

@Durkhead

Жыл бұрын

If you can find one let me know

Guys I have a question my local CEX (English version of gamestop or smth) And they have an i5-4950s i think for £5~$7.50 Is it worth buying

If I didn’t get to keep the computer after then of course I’d go with option 1 but if I could keep it then I’d probably go with option 2 just so I can salvage the gpu afterwards

I would PERSONALLY swap pentium with used i3 10100f that would pair nicely with rx 580 and boom major performance gains

Yeah system 1. The celeron system seems like maybe it could work and be a surprise with all the supporting hardware but the processor just can't keep up. There are used processors that have better specs that go for the same price. The motherboards are more expensive though cause they're old systems and the mobos are rare at this point. But I think it's an interesting question. Just how cheap can you go on a processor and still have a good experience? With high end graphics and good support systems, how cheap can you get and have a playable setup?

System 1 all the way I main play low spec games and emulators the drivers have been really refreshed quite a bit for the APUs. The original Ryzen APU's are actually better now with the driver support has come a long way.

Makes sense, if dropping my (4c 8t 6700k cpu) to 3ghz makes it sluggish, I can't imagine using 2c 4t system no matter the ghz.

If both system can play world of warcraft then the nvidia system. A amd 4850 512mb vram can play wow but can a celeron 2 -core ?

Same test with a 6400 Gold you can often pick them up for $40 on eBay open box.

@MrSamadolfo

Жыл бұрын

yes, thats a 2C 4thread cpu, should run a bit better 👍

i literally bought a Ryzen 5 4600g with 16gb of ram (2x8) gpu prices are still way too high for me rn, just waiting for that lil beast to arrive 💯

I'd choose system 1, the overall setup provides more flexibility for some daily task other than gaming, it also gives the possibility of adding a GPU in the future.

Given the driver updates for the Intel Arc GPU's I'm wondering if even their cheapest option would offer better performance than this? Hell, they now have a pretty good 1080p card for only about $250, which I'm sort of considering. I can't afford many upgrades, but my 1650 Super has been fine for what I play, but the 4 gigs of VRAM on it are not enough for pretty much anything newer and even slows me down in the games I already play. If they have really improved their drivers as much as they claim (and some reviews seem to be confirming), then it might be a great option for budget builds. (the A750 is $250 now)

@Iinustechtips

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have one coming, for 250$ its a steal, I don't want to support scalpers like nvidia and amd

@VexxedSR

7 ай бұрын

@@Iinustechtips Problem with the A750 and the A770 is the power draw for the gaming performance you get. Electricity costs add up.

Great video, Danny. One AMD 4600G system for me, thank you. I am 64 and don't have that much time to wait for intel Celeron to load and suck at playing games. In case you are interested, my new system I'm building with parts I have and buying is a Ryzen R9 7900, 32BG DDR5 6000MHz CL32 RAM, Asus Prime B650E Motherboard, Kingston 2TB NVMe PCIe 4x4, Kingston 480GB MLC NVMe PCIe 3x4, SP A60 1TB NVMe PCIe 3x4, ADATA 1TB SSD SATA, Kingston 480GB SSD SATA, two Toshiba N300 4TB 7200 RPM SATA, Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti (Upgrading to an AMD RX 6950 XT), EVGA SuperNova 850P PowerSupply and a Lian Li LanCool II RGB Case. Years in the making and saving, for this five year computer build...

@MrSamadolfo

Жыл бұрын

😊 im building a few pcs for the family rite now, Im hooking them up with Lian Li Cases too, I got that one you mentioned, I also picked up a few aquarium style 011 evo dynamics, and for matx a 205M. Montech just released a new 011 clone called Sky Two. For traditoonal 3.5 hard drives I recommend just getting a single really big fat hard drive, the sizes I like are: 8tb 10tb 12tb 14tb 16tb , its takes 5TB to hold my 900 game GOG Library just to give u an idea.

These are supposed to be used in ultra cheap kiosk type setups running purpose built software. For a general user it would be enough for basic web access and some browser gaming and video playback.

Quick tip, if you want to benchmark League, just use a replay of the same match just on the different systems, using a match even with just bots wont be consistent

Try stepping up to a pentium gold, i think they are like 50ish usd and might solve alot of the issues that the celeron has

Do a test on Pentium 2c/4t if you can.

i used a "celeron" once. Remember the CPUs that were advertised as 300 mhz but would happyly run at 450 ?

Loving the video, but could you try running the Halo infinite on lower resolution with the Celeron? I think it would be interesting to see how it affects performance and if it helps with 1% lows

@nerdonabudget

Жыл бұрын

Lower resolution would increase framerate which is the issue here. In a cpu bottleneck situation, youd want to increase resolution typically

Option #2. I will mine with the 3080 and do some browsing and Netflix. I will game when I'm at work ;)

I got a 5600g on july and been playing on it since, plan to buy a gpu on april, and maybe upgrade the gpu in 5 years, and get a new cpu a year after than. APU just have better upgrade option in the long run.

Idk if my question will be answered cause it has nothing to do with the video- but I have to know. Is it better to have 4 cores and 8 threads or 6 cores and 6 threads in this modern era? I know older games dont rely on more threads but I need a 2nd opinion on new games

@MrSamadolfo

Жыл бұрын

🙂 most game engines are optimized for the traditional format of 4c 8threads and if its a heavy game then 6c 12threads, now some of the brand new muiltiplayer games which are hosting over 100 people online at the sametime those games would be good to have 8c 16threads, and if u want to stream u definitely want to go 8c 16t. As far as intel 6c 6t I would avoid them they were kinda dumb and were a limited run kind of thing.

My respect for my 2C/4T laptop i3 1005g1 increased after watching this video

@peterpan408

Жыл бұрын

2 cores is dead for laptops.. 4 cores or nothing.. I had to wait a while for laptops to jump to 4, 6, or 8 cores.. Then I got a 6 core AMD laptop. Having chosen that for myself, work gave me an intel i7 laptop.. which is also OK. Especially with a 4K 14" display 😎

so Inte should have made celeron 2 core 3 threads ?

Pff, APUs rock. I have the Aerith inside the Steam Deck running as a desktop with vanilla Arch and everything i want runs wonderful. 15 Watts maximum power usage is another strong point here, my whole setup with two screens, a small amplifier and an external DVD burner eats up 35 Watts maximum. And with current German energy prices that is a huge plus for me.

Ok, so now, how mutch you need to be just better than the apu sistem, picking up an cpu without graphics and a entry-level gpu?

#2 can still be used in a AdGuard or a PiHole setup with a lightweight os like Arch or Ubuntu (lol no gpu needed). I actually did something similar with a crappy core duo

What about pentium g7400 for $50? GN did a breakdown of numbers but used a rtx 3080. Would be better with RX6600, rtx 2070 or rx 5700 xt

@endless2239

Жыл бұрын

the G7400 cost $50 now? you shouldn't never pair those low tier CPU with high tier Nvidia, the driver overhead is terrible, I'm surprised Steve didn't know that.

Which software you use for OSD?

@nerdonabudget

Жыл бұрын

MSI afterburner

There are some Celeron-processors with 4Cores/4Threads. For example Celeron J1900, Celeron J3160 , Celeron J3455, Celeron J3455E, Celeron J4105, Celeron J4125. Wanna make a Video about one of those for comparison to the Celeron G5925 (2C/2T) ? 🤔

I would like to see Batocera running on that Celeron, which is a game emulator for some retro games, and I'd like to see an rx6400 involved in order to get really good performance out of my HP thin client HP t730. Normally, I can play most games at resolutions ranging from 720p to 1080p without issue. Game emulators tend to prefer AMD over Intel, but the HP processor is an AMD RX-427B and if all else fails make content on making an open sense or pfsense firewall

Would be interesting to see how the likes of the 5700g cope if it has better integrated graphics. Would be even more interesting to see what the AM5 apu's have in store

@ReinaldoJ_AF

Жыл бұрын

Just a friendly reminder, all of the Ryzen 7000 series (am5 supported cpu) come with integrated graphics, so, the term Apu it's kinda obsolete, at least for the PC build market, it seems like the laptop market will get apu

i got the same score as the celeron on my laptop with a i3 10110U prossesor

Weren't there some athalon processors that were cheap and 2 core 4 thread that could kinda game ok?

@MrSamadolfo

Жыл бұрын

yes, if he would followup the tests with a Pentium 2core 4thread many games that didnt run will run, four threads makes a big difference

honestly I don't get the reluctance by some to go for an APU, if you really don't wanna go used imo its the next best thing at a hard budget. I actually went with a 5600g in my most recent build and the number of games I can get to a playable state is kinda shocking (playable for me being 1080p any quality and 60 FPS). Granted I mostly play like League, Valo, emulators and older games like GTA V and MCC but you can really squeeze an impressive amount of performance out of these things and give yourself time to save up for a good GPU.

@theinktician

Жыл бұрын

I get it - but i also understand that APUs save so much hassle. I've been building for almost a month now and every day I think about how awesome it'd be to have a beelink or minisforum instead. I just wish they were a little cheaper (they're nowhere near as overpriced as the non-steamdeck handhelds though)

even though $26 is cheap if you look at an older used xeon processor, you can easily get at least 6 or 8 cores for the same price and get a decent clockspeed of 3.2ghz baseclock which will crush games and any modern workload like photoshop video editing or 4k video playback. I honestly don't know why this celeron even exists. although I'm assuming its a popular processor in many chromebooks considering the price

I got an Amazon 5500XT 8gb oc and I love it especially going from a laptop to a desktop with an R5 3600 and 32 gb of ram this pc is the best I’ve owned

Opposite of the core series, mobile celerons are actually miles ahead of their desktop counterparts. Obviously not great for gaming, for general computer use the quad-core celeron n3450 is an absolute unit for the amount of power it consumes (5 watts max running Minecraft at 40 fps!!) with my ups power station you could run Minecraft for like 2 days straight. I love my gaming laptop but the battery life and power consumption of the celeron laptop is unmatched. I’ve seen a lattepanda mini PC with the n3450 and with more ram and a 1650 it can run games decently.

how good is a 5700G or 5600G with no gpu

Can we get a Intel Pentium gold 7505 review

guess my old a 10 build is not that bad ..im still going to do a budget ryzen 5 build

System #1, all day long. Great video, inspired by someone who didn't really know what they were talking about! Love it.

The lower end CPUs don't get enough attention, these constantly go into cheap business machines that cycle into the bulk used market a few years later. Then someone's grandma buys it as a computer for someone, sometimes it gets sold as a gaming computer with minor upgrades.

I kinda want to see the same thing but with a q6600 or another core2quad since those were good processors back then but are surpassed by a lot of modern CPUs...

@Pasi123

Жыл бұрын

The Q6600 doesn't have SSE4.1 and SSE4.2 instruction sets which are required by most modern games. SSE4.1 was first added on Core2 Duo E8000 and Core2 Quad Q9000 series, and SSE4.2 on first gen Core i series. It also doesn't have AVX and AVX2 but neither does that Celeron. Desktop Celeron's and Pentium's didn't get AVX(2) support until LGA1700 / Alder Lake in 2022

Me with this processor for 3 years and playing minecraft at 25 fps (my family did not have any money to upgrade/buy a new pc)😊

Good content! But speaking of interesting computer stuff, you should definitely check out some chinese cpu mutants like the intel qqls, which is basically an overclockable laptop engineering cpu sample with 8c/16t on almost any lga1151 motherboard including 100 series.

@SeeJayPlayGames

Жыл бұрын

QQLS? Tech YES City did a video on this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pWR-uK2dm86znc4.html

@runterhunter5031

Жыл бұрын

@@SeeJayPlayGames Yeah i saw that video already lol. Btw i'm going to build a pc with qqls soon. I have everything, just gotta order it.

I played on a 5600g for pretty much all of 2022 because of the graphics card shortage at the end of 2021. I upgraded to a 3060 ti at the end of the year and have been using it since. It was a very big improvement but I'll be honest, there wasn't much I couldn't play on the 5600g (I had some driver issues with Horizon Zero Dawn and very low performance but that's it) and I could even manage Beatsaber just fine. Obviously a discreet GPU has been much better but that system was fine just fine and with a really good upgrade path to what I have now.

Think the only thing this chip could be used for would be a router build or somesort of iot application

There is also the Pentium line, which while also having 2 cores, has 4 threads as well. tbh tho the i3 is the minimum nowadays

I haven’t used a 2 threaded CPU since the G620. Even just windows updates struggles with 2 threads. I have a G7400 in a secondary computer with 2 cores and 4 threads and even with the fast Alder Lake IPC it feels slow even when not gaming. It is fine enough but I wouldn’t go to a Celeron. Something like the 12100 is a great CPU though if you can get it for a good price.

I'm a game developer. Programmer. CPU power can be extremely important. All the meshes, textures and so on still have to get delivered to the GPU. How long that takes is entirely dependent on the CPU until we start seeing GPUs used to access system memory on their own. Often the CPU does a lot of work on the data before the GPU ever sees it. Buy that I mean stuff like determining what will be passed to the GPU so that even it isn't bogged down trying to draw everything. So even if all the terrain and objects for the game and location are in system memory it would need to be organized in a manor that the GPU could then pull it and know what to do with it. for $4 more you could have got an 8 core 16 thread xeon e5-2680 2.7(3.5ghz). (NEW, Not used or refurb).

system 1 obviously. because you can still do work on it. you can't do any work on the second one because you'd constantly be in fear of crashes wiping your unsaved data. and, i know google stadia is dead but you can still find some cloud gaming/game streaming services somewhere i'm sure. so system 1 would be a no brainer choice.

Oh no, this is hardly a question. Even if I decided (and I would) to go around the iGPU (via GeForce Now), I still wouldn't go with the Celeron. Though, I suppose that's an interesting question: How bad would GeForce Now be on the Celeron? Min CPU is: Dual core x86-64 CPU with 2.0GHz or faster

I'd use the 4600g option, but then I'd really like one of those mini PC's with a 7840HS laptop APU in it since it has 12 RDNA3 cu's.

Listen up children, let me tell you a story of the old days. Back in '98 Intel saw fit to release the Celeron 300A and 333. Gamers at the time discovered that the Celerons ran games faster than Pentiums because the L2 cache ran at the same speed as the processor. Where as the Pentiums at the time had double the L2 cache but the L2 cache ran slower. Gamers rejoiced and began overclocking with glee. I too built a 440BX system with a Celeron 300A. Those were interesting times.

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😏👍 It's all about The Pentiums

the shaking of the CPU box in the beginning hurts my eyes

maybe try G6900 which do have new architecture . G5925 is something skylake 14nm ++++++++

After watching your video, I'll go with system #1 (condition is that part flipping is not allowed)...

I doubt you will see this but you can buy a xeon 1240 v5 from eBay for like $20 that's 4 cores 8 threads at 3.9 ghz

I've gamed on some simple titles here and there on a 4750G, AMD APU system all day long. I still take my main system 5800x3d/7900xt doe.