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@wizzfizz69

4 жыл бұрын

ok boomer.....

@s_apienza

4 жыл бұрын

ye ok boomer

@TechnoLadz

4 жыл бұрын

That’s not your sponsor of the day lmao

@azimpetra

4 жыл бұрын

So..are we gonna get a new Secret Shopper like you guys did with iBuyPower, Origin, etc.

@TheXlen

4 жыл бұрын

Linus I thought better of you, so many mistakes on a one Athlon build...

*Runs a Ryzen APU with single channel RAM* I could hear LowSpecGamer's screaching across the Atlantic.

@lunchie80

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. They fucked it up and also totally missed the point of the cpu. Plus you can massively OC the onboard GPU

@TheBinklemNetwork

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh, mennof culture

@jojoba_24

4 жыл бұрын

Guess I'm not the only one getting anxiety watching this

@alphacompton

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not too familiar with ideal AMD setups but I was under the impression memory was key to AMD at the moment due to some infinity weave thing. 2 sticks of ram can be affordable for a budget setup so he should have tried that.

@FunkyM217

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Alex would make that 3000G absolutely perform. Like, totally.

3:56 "If you're gonna do it, do it smart" *Forgets dual-channel memory* Trust me, even at this budget tier it's worth the extra $5 for a 2x4 or even extra $25 for 2x8.

@Voornaz

4 жыл бұрын

Or the 74 dollars for 16gb 3600 16 cas latency Yes it's 74 dollars lol

@MyNameIsBucket

4 жыл бұрын

And then starts with max overclock.

@Leggir

4 жыл бұрын

No. Depending on the upgrade path, single channel may be preferable. A couple of years ago when ram prices were $100+ for an 8 GB stick, I built a budget gamer box for a guy who just lost his job. The mobo had 2 slots for RAM, so the choice was made for 1x8GB because he'd add more later. In testing between 2x4GB and 1x8GB, the performance difference in games was less than 10%. Blender was ~25% better in dual channel.

@loaimohsen

4 жыл бұрын

or $400 more for 3900x

@marekbarycz4397

4 жыл бұрын

@@Leggir Years ago i used SIMM memories... They tested it now and they used 4 RAM slot mobo. Also if You where that stupid to use mobo with only 2 slots then it is Your fault. You miss the point that Dual Channel gives massive boost for IGPU.

"If you gonna do it, do it smart" puts a single memory on a APU...

@twanvanderdonk2504

4 жыл бұрын

He also explained why, he said you can easily upgrade it later, it is just to have a complete working system . If he included more ram (or even worse, 2x4gb sticks...), then it wouldn't be the lowest possible budget to get a running system that you can easily upgrade to be better a month after or so.

@Heisenberg355

4 жыл бұрын

@JozoK_TM he isn't haha. He commented

@Strixeu

3 жыл бұрын

@JozoK_TM Zdravím Slovensko :)

@NewBoy0606

3 жыл бұрын

@@twanvanderdonk2504 You say that as though he could not have tried both options.

@sobanya_228

3 жыл бұрын

He doesn't use it as APU, just CPU

Linux: I would go for a Ryzen 5 3600 Me, an Argentinian: Oh sure, let me just... work 20 years til I can actually pay it!

@Andres-ul9wo

4 жыл бұрын

@caveman That is because of the taxes South America That tripple the cost of the product also Argentina suffer from a hight inflation in this moment

@Andres-ul9wo

4 жыл бұрын

caveman you can’t find easy but if you found it like sli of titan rtx

@PidroBondar

4 жыл бұрын

@caveman Around 2000 dollars

@bucket8967

4 жыл бұрын

Pidrox good lord that is expensive

@PidroBondar

4 жыл бұрын

@@bucket8967 If it sounds expensive for you,just imagine how wild the idea of buying one sounds like here lmao The only people with that level of pc hardware are millonaires or famous/sponsored people

Linus. Linus... I love you man but... We need to talk about your standards for comparisons here. Over 100 FPS and it just "fine"? And single channel? While running integrated GPU?!

@patrickchea984

4 жыл бұрын

It's El Cheapo's mistake, again. ;) And this time you're not there to fix it. :( EDIT: Is That You, LowSpecGamer, Alex???

@Unit27

4 жыл бұрын

[LowSpecGamer intensifies]

@uzimyspecial

4 жыл бұрын

It's not even that more expensive to get dual channel kit compared to one stick

@TheRealFoxFire

4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering when I would see you commenting on this video lol. I scrolled down just to find it!

@jaredbarrios7950

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, i get 100fps on a “better” system and was like “100 fps is fine? Really?” They even had the settings on high

I can hear *LowSpecGamer Noises* at the fact that he's using single channel ram on Ryzen

@uzimyspecial

4 жыл бұрын

Not just ryzen, a ryzen Apu. Literally all modern igpus benefit from dual channel

@marcusavron47

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the fact that you can get dual sticks at roughly the same price as an equivalent capacity single stick blows his budget argument out of the water.

@nodarimosia6825

4 жыл бұрын

yup, my r5 3400g igpu performance literally doubled after i switched from 1x8gb 2400hz to 2x4gb 3200hz RAM. cpu performance not so much, about 15-20% but still damn great upgrade.

@marcusavron47

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelightsilent I have an intel everything. Laptop, desktop, and tablet. I'm intrigued by the AMD options and I feel like Linus misrepresented what this chip can do. ETA Prime has a great video on it.

@sujimayne

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelightsilent dont call me "commie" you commie

"I dont think faster memory is possible for a budget gaming rig" meanwhile I got a cheap set of 2666 ddr4 and oc to 3200 with no issues.

@Straiferdt01

4 жыл бұрын

How are those timings doe

@xnaturell9189

4 жыл бұрын

He didn't say possible, or at least he didn't mean it, he meant it's not realistic, who would have a 50$ cpu, with a 3200Mhz ram stick???

@navy34950

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, 16gb of ddr4 3200 can be like $50 on Newegg now

@Ikxi

4 жыл бұрын

2400 oced to 3000

@UlzYT

4 жыл бұрын

Rocking 2400 on 3200mhz lmao fully stable

That moment when you have to SIMULATE cheap memory

@kushvalorant

3 жыл бұрын

Linus be like: Am i too rich to understand this joke 😂

@misham6547

3 жыл бұрын

@2080 more like they don't want to deal with having 10 different sku's of ram in their warehouse when they can just get the highest end and simulate it in bios without

linus : 70fps thats playable me : anything above 13 fps is playabe

@7Write4This9Heart7

4 жыл бұрын

SAME! I was watching that 25 FPS like, "That's AWESOME, though?? Linus, what are you talking about?!" lol!

@sivadasrajan

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j i said "me",Not "Rest of world's population"

@sivadasrajan

4 жыл бұрын

@SeoulfredRay i highly agree

@Knot_Sean

4 жыл бұрын

I play games like war thunder on High and have an average FPS of 24, When I get mear the ground that drops too 13, Still damn well playable.

@Windows98R

4 жыл бұрын

Siva das 13 is not playable...I respect you for mastering it. I can’t bear anything below 45

Dual channel memory would probably have made more of a difference.

@Lukas9708

4 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right, kinda strange to me that linus forgot that

@ArcBlaze

4 жыл бұрын

LowSpecGamer rage insues

@CyFr

4 жыл бұрын

If you can even find 2 sticks of 4gb that would "still" do better than 1x 8gb

@MultiYippee

4 жыл бұрын

@@CyFr yes, that's what dual channel is

@lunchie80

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lukas9708 not strange to me. They've done it before.

Linus "100 FPS is.... Fine." Me, with my Phenom II x4 965, 8go RAM and R7 240: *pikachu face*

@sqibbley8053

4 жыл бұрын

BRO THATS LITERALLY THE EXACT CPU I HAVE IN MY PC XDDDDD

@dragonlord3295

4 жыл бұрын

The poor AMD phenom IIx4 gang

@crazywindows88

4 жыл бұрын

Dragonlord 32 fx 4300 :(

@juancarlolintag9582

4 жыл бұрын

phenom quad + r7 240 in the year 2020 gang

@LoskLive

4 жыл бұрын

@@juancarlolintag9582 yup 😂

It is *literally* 10 dollars less than the Stealth Hoodie. Edit: Woah, I haven't got this many likes ever!

@Aston3003

4 жыл бұрын

He hates thing that are old let's just say that

@beep6010

4 жыл бұрын

ltT sTorE . cOm

@TugAndThugComputing

4 жыл бұрын

lttstore.com/

@heavygaming6596

4 жыл бұрын

100th like

@vibeman2k2

4 жыл бұрын

HTTPS://LTTSTORE.COM

"If you're gonna do this, do it smart" >single-channel memory No wonder the comments section is littered with smart advice.

@martinivanov1319

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, who the fuck uses only 1 memory stick even on intel

@Kurumisama

4 жыл бұрын

@@martinivanov1319 well for extremely short budgets, it makes sense, even if it's a bad practice, it's better than nothing

@MrTheSmoon

4 жыл бұрын

people that have little money and want an Upgradepath

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kurumisama - Extremely short budgets - $54 PSU - $150 GPU Pick one.

@MrAetherGaming

4 жыл бұрын

@@photonicpizza1466 it's not budget, it's upgradability

If you're going to do budget, do it smart. Get a motherboard with four memory slots and for all that is good in the world, don't run single channel memory.

@jtlewis81

4 жыл бұрын

...and still move the mouse pointer. Lol

@madd5

4 жыл бұрын

@@jtlewis81 BTW, I have that motherboard they are using. And was able to overclock my ryzen 1600 to 4100mhz. I mean, the motherboard itself is awesome.

@nik0la263

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Alex being dumb ass. I suspect he prepared the video

@MalePifko

4 жыл бұрын

@@Herr.Mitternacht Yeah he strikes me as an ignorant hiding his lack of knowledge behind "smile number 5".

@8lec_R

4 жыл бұрын

This thread is fu****g toxic

"Once they get cheaper in the used market..." That did not age well 😐 - Chip Shortage of 2021

@dailypcandgaming5329

3 жыл бұрын

I was looking at building a system for my sisters birthday (she’s 11 and wants to play Minecraft) and then I looked at the price and I was like 50 bucks is not a bad deal (I’m 15 and on a budget)…. Looked at the prices now, About that

@takumifujiwara300

2 жыл бұрын

Got mine for 40bucks tho? I'm gonna build a pc for my daughter since I can't even play on my own pc.

@markskonecki2050

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah cheap my a$$ lol

@Alex-yj9xl

2 жыл бұрын

@@dailypcandgaming5329 Ohtじゃtそうんdsびcえ

@kennhern

2 жыл бұрын

That $50 chip became $100 in my country real quick

Who else is here after LowSpecGamer's video?

@theosexpertdaymon2774

4 жыл бұрын

Me

@Continus

4 жыл бұрын

KZread auto redirected me here on it's own. Thanks Autoplay!

@elliottdavid9095

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Teddie are you doing well? Or should I say bear-y well?

@pamikokitty

3 жыл бұрын

im not? what was the video

@bearpuns5910

3 жыл бұрын

@@pamikokitty kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yot6s9ediMjeldo.html

"If you're going to do this, do it smart" So just go watched any LowSpecGamer video on this chip and you'll find things you never expected from this little beast

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

Gotta bring out the tweaks.

@SamuraiGuy

4 жыл бұрын

gamers nexus already did one, too.

@dycedargselderbrother5353

4 жыл бұрын

"Let's turn off polygon filling and lighting for the ultimate dark wireframe experience"

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

@@dycedargselderbrother5353 I like that System Shock cyberspace aesthetic.

@danielfatfingahs5649

4 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking Ryzen 3 1200

"If you're gonna do it, do it smart" *_Proceeds to use one stick of ram_*

@mael6513

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't really take his videos seriously.

@bligward6609

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh I wish this dude could ship me one of his old PC's the only gaming console I have is a PS3 so would be super epic

@vadnegru

4 жыл бұрын

@@bligward6609 go get some Xeons. X79 is cheap as hell because of ram, X99 is starts spinning. I built this system for 400$ (roughly) www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/23573051. Actualy rx470 was good enough, but i saw that sweet sweet used 580.

@NazoFruciak

4 жыл бұрын

I think the whole point of 1 stick of ram in this video was to show as budget option as possible with a room for upgrade in the future. Cheap motherboards can have only 2 slots for ram or there might be a problem with stability with 4 sticks. I think it's way better to buy 1x8gb and then later just buy anoter one instead of buying 2x4gb .

@louiefriesen

4 жыл бұрын

your comments are very popular.

"$50 cpu" Me: nah, I'ma get a three core cpu from eBay for $9 at 3.3GHZ

@amrkhaled2633

4 жыл бұрын

Three core??

@musje83

4 жыл бұрын

@@amrkhaled2633 Old AMD Phenom X3 CPU's, yeah. Basically quadcores with 1 core disabled. Pretty useless in modern systems unless you want to do simple office-tasks, then they are still fine.

@amrkhaled2633

4 жыл бұрын

@@musje83 Thanks for the info🤝🤓

@rockychickengaming6991

4 жыл бұрын

chief for ten more dollars you can get an i5-2500.

@bruh-dj5uo

4 жыл бұрын

@@rockychickengaming6991 Where

YOU HAVE SINNED IN THE EYES OF LOWSPECGAMER

"The good news is that we're obviously heavily CPU bound" You mean catastrophically memory crippled at 2400MHz single channel, right?

@Blessedup69

4 жыл бұрын

Péter Menyhárt dude I’ve test games from 8gb of ram to 64gbs. Games can’t see ram

@DiskyToy

4 жыл бұрын

The 3000G can handle up to 2666MHz, and why he is using single channel? Irdk

@menpee

4 жыл бұрын

@@Blessedup69 Quality was the problem here, not quantity.

@RadarLeon

4 жыл бұрын

@@Blessedup69 ryzen infinity fabric 2400mhz ram=1200mhz fabric, 3000mhz=1500mhz fabric, 3200=1600 also apu uses on board memory in dual channel 4gb x2 will beat a single 8gb @sam speed thus this was a poor showing for this chip

@Shyphlosion

4 жыл бұрын

@@Blessedup69 Oh, trust me, dude. More RAM ABSOLUTELY makes a difference. I felt the jump from 8 to 16 not too long ago myself.

"I think I forgot something." "If you forgot it, it wasn't important in the first place." Dual Channel memory: 🌧🙁

@bearpuns5910

4 жыл бұрын

LowSpecGamer will have to make another video about them so they can finally learn.

@mindcreeper

4 жыл бұрын

That is my life motto

@zes3813

4 жыл бұрын

wrg, forget, remex any nmw

Linus: "should you buy this $50 CPU?" Me: can I afford that $50 CPU?

@jackrichard2201

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you can. Your phone alone prolly costs above 200$

@hexados7479

3 жыл бұрын

Jack Richard your just low balling the fuck outta that

@jackrichard2201

3 жыл бұрын

@@hexados7479 am I wrong tho? There's always a bunch of people "oH I cAnT aFfOrD tHaT" even tho they can, and even if there's clearly something that costs less than a 100 dollars. Like if It's still expensive then get a fucking job mate

@hexados7479

3 жыл бұрын

Jack Richard from what I can tell you still live with your parents I have a iPhone 11 on contract that’s £60 a month for unlined 5g calls and texts that’s £1440 for 2 years that’s a lot of money not everyone can afford that especially if there paying for let’s say an apartment so rent utilities maybe throw in college or any form of studies or education and there just scraping by your argument is the dumpiest fucking thing I’ve ever heard because not everyone can fork out 200-700 on a single purchase item especially if it takes them a while to save up for it saying that your phone is $200 so you can afford this is like saying oh you spent £500 on a second car so you can afford to rent a house a $200 phone is convenient you can do a lot with it and as much as you could with £1500 phone but there are a lot of variables that effect your averages joes ability to buy what is essentially a luxury item

@ap9821

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackrichard2201 my phone is 150 dollars yet i cant buy a 50 dollar cause im a kid and the phone is a gift, so dont be mean to people if you dont know what their situation are

"You could rock this for 2-3 years..." Me still using an fx 6300 -_-

@nightopia2911

4 жыл бұрын

You are lucky. I have c2d And I'm in a poor country that core 2 quad q9650 is my dream cpu

@LoskLive

4 жыл бұрын

I have a Phenom II x4 965. You lucky.

@ondrejbrandejsky5592

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoskLive well, you actually have better single core performance than him

@LoskLive

4 жыл бұрын

@@ondrejbrandejsky5592 At lower specs ? Nope. (And I compared to the FX 6300)

@ondrejbrandejsky5592

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoskLive well the fx 6300 has higher clocks but does less calculations per clock An FX 4300 at 4ghz equates to a Phenom X4 955 at 3.2ghz, but it doesnt really matter anyway

Linus: Do you think we forgot something? Athlon 3000G: Nahh *Dual Channel Memory: :((*

@tzxazrael

4 жыл бұрын

if you only have 2 ram slots and plan to upgrade later... buying a 2x4gb means throwing them out when you're ready to upgrade. it wasn't forgotten, it was a choice.

@stephaneduhamel7706

4 жыл бұрын

@@tzxazrael except the board used here has 4 slots, and i don't think anyone will use more than 8 Gb of memory with that chip anyways. Also dual channel is really important for ryzen, especially for APUs.

@tzxazrael

4 жыл бұрын

@@stephaneduhamel7706 it isn't. it makes a difference, yes. even a noticeable difference. but the chip isn't going to explode if you don't do it that way.

@febrianadji5758

4 жыл бұрын

@@tzxazrael how close it is until that "8GB is insufficient for gaming"? Remember that this build also using $50 CPU without any graphics card other than it's integrated if you're going super tight on budget and need new parts either for power efficiency or it's warranty. Upgrading the GPU will be more viable if all you're doing is just gaming than get yourself 16gb kit at this condition

@Deadboy90

4 жыл бұрын

@@febrianadji5758 I ran into my first instance of that happening just yesterday when playing VR. But I'm happily running 8GB in my rig and playing RDR2 maxed out.

"If you gonna do budget systems, do it smart" *Uses single channel memory on AMD APU

@tzxazrael

4 жыл бұрын

yea. like he stated even at the start of the video... sometimes it's about the upgrade path, more than the current performance. $350 will get you up and running. the SMART option is choosing components that you can add to instead of replace, when your budget is that limited. if i have 8gb installed, and want to upgrade to 16.... -if i have 2x4gb to take advantage of dual channel, and it's a budget (or just an ITX) board with only 2 ram slots... i have to toss out the old ram to get better. -if i have 1x8 ... ok i lose out on the dual channel boost... FOR NOW... but all i need is to buy another 1x8 to go in beside it, and i'm not wasting any old components.

@Mike_Hogsheart

4 жыл бұрын

@@tzxazrael honestly, that's just not a realistic scenarion. For one, an ITX build on a budget is an oxymoron. You are definitely paying a premium if you go with ITX, so any reasonable budget build will go with either mATX or ATX. Once you go mATX or ATX, you might as well get a 4 slot board. The 2 slot boards are the bottom of the barrel, which is the exact opposite of what you want if future upgradability is something you care about. TL;DR: you always go with dual channel memory, even if you are on a budget. Always.

@crunchbar777

4 жыл бұрын

@@tzxazrael Have to say if you are going two memory slots you should still get dual channel, sell the 2x4 memory chips and use that money to help invest in 2x8, not like ddr4 is going out of style any time soon so you will get close to what you payed for it. Memory is one of those things that doesn't depreciate in value quickly since it is used on so many different generations of consumer hardware. Best advice for an AMD budget build is to buy the fastest memory you can at a set price point in dual channel. the price difference between corsair vengeance 3200mhz vs 2400 mhz is literally 2-5 dollars and sometimes they cost exactly the same. You will benefit from that way more than it's worth waiting to buy a second memory stick down the line, most people won't feel the need to upgrade for much longer since the performance will be so much better, and when they do just follow the advice in my first paragraph. Sure it's a tad bit more work but compared to having a much slower PC it's worth it.

@OlettaLiano

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mike_Hogsheart Agreed. If you can only afford 8GB of ram, get 2 4GB sticks for dual channel, or you'll be leaving up to 10% performance on the table.

@dutchdykefinger

4 жыл бұрын

@@OlettaLiano make that 20%, and closer 100% if you use the iGPU.

That moment when the 3200g is pretty much the only option for a pc build under $1k due to the gpu shortage now

How to make me sad a cpu that no problem gets 700 cinebench score me: runs cinebench and gets 290

@p3chv0gel22

4 жыл бұрын

Me: Cinebench doesn't even start

@Mostlyharmless1985

4 жыл бұрын

*Laughs in 5 year old i7 pulling a 2291 score.*

@blitz8260

3 жыл бұрын

I get 89

@blitz8260

3 жыл бұрын

I get 83 points

@JordanISmith

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mostlyharmless1985 crying laughing in 8 year old AMD fx

The ultimate lesson here is: you need DUAL CHANNEL for zen-based APUs.

@jamestor6700

4 жыл бұрын

you also need a decent amount of ram capacity as the onboard graphics and the overall system will both rely on the ram

@Violant3

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, and also ram speed is important, he mentioned that high speeds aren't realistic for this system's goal, but I managed to get 3000mhz ram for my 3200G for a fairly good price here in brazil

@MlordSlav

4 жыл бұрын

Not even zen based cpus literally fuckin any cpu with igpu will need dual channel

"That's like a night at the movies" Jesus how expensive are the theaters where you live?

@dominicperez1563

4 жыл бұрын

Theatres get a lot more expensive in the evening

@paws27

4 жыл бұрын

l0n3s0m3kIll3r Gaming Not in most places I’d say. It’s somewhat over 20 here with a large drink and large popcorn. Granted that’s in euro but even converted that doesn’t even come close to 50 without a drink or popcorn.

@Mat2095

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Just this week, I paid 6.20€ or something like that (per person).

@kurgo_

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mat2095 Yeah same here, I was like what, 50$ for a movie, is there a blowjob included too? Christ.

@stoneymahoney9106

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget, he has kids.

Couldnt be happier with my Athlon 3000G. Awesome CPU. I even underclocked and undervolted it. Economic, quiet, cool system. 💪🙏

@Ventell_

3 жыл бұрын

somebody, give him a cooler :)

@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ventell_ no need for that. 28°C idle with a carbonaut cooling pad and an arctic passive cooler.

@Ventell_

3 жыл бұрын

@@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive sweeeet

@Alex-yj9xl

2 жыл бұрын

How much did you pay for it? They are like $90-100 when I look for it pre tax. 😭 almost double.

@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-yj9xl I got mine for 48€.

I love the fact that he has so many high end parts, but so few low ends lying around that he actually has to underclock his RAM to simulate a cheap one

"Remember this is a budget system" *Has RGB RAM sticks*

@acd5677

4 жыл бұрын

I know it’s a joke, but just in case you missed it, the RAM is underclocked to simulate budget RAM. Kind of funny how they don’t have budget RAM on hand.

@wnxdafriz

4 жыл бұрын

ok... ill be honest -- when ram was ridiculously high.... literally the cheapest ram i could buy at the time was some rgb ram.... lol

@makomk

4 жыл бұрын

Noah C There's basically no cost saving from going below 3000 MHz RAM these days though, even on a budget system. All they're simulating is the result of setting up a system really badly.

@acd5677

4 жыл бұрын

makomk Yeah, especially without dual channel memory.

@keb6004

4 жыл бұрын

RGB RAM sticks aren’t much more expensive than non-RGB RAM sticks. The difference between 2x8GB 3200MHz RGB RAM sticks and 2x8GB 3200MHz non-RGB RAM sticks is $10 at most (considering you get high-quality ram made by trusted brands, not some sketchy ass stuff)

Linus: Has single channel memory while playing on apu Whole internet: Why you didn't put 2 ram sticks!?!

@soullessgemini7786

4 жыл бұрын

@@HelenGPitts Yeah, let's see your paystubs then

@acd5677

4 жыл бұрын

Helen G. Pitts Wow! I care!

@VPlaya

4 жыл бұрын

@@HelenGPitts oh Helen no

@stevietech

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't sleep, put 2 sticks of ram in. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ooynx9ltgMS2kdI.html

@cbaha4985

4 жыл бұрын

Helen G. Pitts How about you go get an actual job instead of scamming people

Linus: Intel won this race! Me: You're giving the poor AMD CPU only one stick of ram you doof.

100fps is “fine” Linus I’m running a r5 2600 with a 2060 and I’m hitting 98 FPS

@Mostlyharmless1985

4 жыл бұрын

"Alexa, how much larger is 2160 than 1080?"

@fur_avery

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine having more than 25 fps

@lynox4623

3 жыл бұрын

@@fur_avery ikr me running on my old laptop with single channel 4gb ram and integrated Intel graphics on my cpu (laptop) cant even run minecraft more than 30fps with multiplayer but 15 for in single player... idk why I get more fps on multiplayer

@fur_avery

3 жыл бұрын

@@lynox4623 this is description on my old laptop except mine had partially broken screen

@fur_avery

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mostlyharmless1985 btw 1080 is better than 2060

Amd: *releases 1600 AF* Linus: “I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that”

@ryohyamaru8282

4 жыл бұрын

Was literally thinking this myself...$85 6 core 12 thread cpu is freaking amazing

@kost.9423

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryohyamaru8282 And actual an upgrade if you still are with an i5 sandy or ivy bridge. Those 50 bucks cpus with igpu is only for people upgrading from core2duo and older intel chipset gpus

@michener1622

4 жыл бұрын

Kos T. Or building a pc

@ringodooby

4 жыл бұрын

Kos T. I’m on a budget amd chip from aaaaaround 6 years ago 😅, my toaster runs games better now

@Wrathlon

4 жыл бұрын

@@kost.9423 Or an Office PC. Or a HTPC Or a dirt cheap gaming PC for the kids. Or basically any scenario where you just need a basic PC.

"139 fps is fairly playable" smh. It's more than playable!!!

@matejduchaj9828

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah i like to lock everything on 60 and say that's pretty fucking playable

@Kelocyde

4 жыл бұрын

@@matejduchaj9828 60 looks like a slide-show to me now :(

@imxrcuryy7869

4 жыл бұрын

Paradox Shift same, I got so used to around 200

@tacohammer7023

4 жыл бұрын

@M D Nope it's just some people are used to higher refresh rates.

@yuikonnu5079

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean 60fps only a slideshow? That's super smooth for me tho

"i'm just saying if you're gonna do it, do it smart" he says while using single-channel ram in an APU

"Just how badly it can shred Intel's equivalent" This is what its come to Intel, it not even a matter of which CPU is better 😂

me watching the comments: everyone : dual channel memory

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

Running single channel RAM and wondering why stuttering is present and 0.1% low frame times are high...

@g00gleminus96

4 жыл бұрын

@@CaveyMoth What part of "budget PC" don't you understand?

@saint__lucifer1356

4 жыл бұрын

@@g00gleminus96 you can get 2 sticks of 4gb 3000mhz memory for $40 so i don't think it's unreasonable to assume that dual channel memory is not budget.

@8thlvlMage

4 жыл бұрын

@TDR REVENGE Budget in these contexts always means cheap. When people say a "budget car" they don't mean "my $300k budget." Budget plane ticket doesn't mean "$2,000 seat." It will always mean "deadass back of the plane."

@xanamata5386

4 жыл бұрын

tech tips from car salesmen .

"A night at the movies" dang Linus where are u watching movies.

@nemilu

4 жыл бұрын

OwO

@av28379

4 жыл бұрын

No movie costs more than 50 dollars lol What the fuck....

@Deribus575

4 жыл бұрын

He has 3 kids

@carlangelo653

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe he's including the kids and popcorn cost for them.

@Yantonio7

4 жыл бұрын

One person here in peru , have to spend around 8 dolars to go to the cinema theater

"if youre gonna do a budget build, at least do it the smart way" then proceeds to do it the most stupid way by using single channel ram at low speed on a cpu that is entirely dependant on the ram speed and not overclocking the cpu/gpu combo of the 3000G. You dropped the ball on that one Linus.

Linus: Uses a 50 dollar "budget cpu" Also Linus: Where is my Trident Z Royal

"Todays plan is to see just how badly it can shred its Intel equivalent." \*Runs a single Cinebench test, which the Intel wins, then never touches the Intel again leaving us with no idea "how badly it can shred its Intel equivalent," or even if it can "shred its Intel equivalent" at all.

@Azmirator

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Very unobjective. Because if you are not AMD fan today and dont shit on intel, youre not cool probably. Do you think there is 2 years old video, how this intel cpu is shredding AMD? I guess no.

@everykenyan

4 жыл бұрын

what a shit video tbh, i immediately knew he won't bench it against the intel with the graphics card

@2S2F1

4 жыл бұрын

Linus’s content has gotten worse the more money hes gotten from them. Half assed, poorly edited shit garbage videos.

@irisdogma8174

4 жыл бұрын

@@Azmirator He doesn't know you can overclock basically any intel CPU by installing intel XTU with the command prompt option to not check the chipset. Apples to apples comparison would have been overclocking both. Not that he compared at all.

@fernandosanchez6507

4 жыл бұрын

this vid is really bad, comparing a new amd cpu vs a 2 years old intel "equivalent", barely any benchmarks...

Linus: 139... thats playable Me: 40 fps is playable

@kylecook8108

4 жыл бұрын

also me: workstation with gpu: 25 fps is playable lmfao my old pc was a work satation that i got a rx 550 for

@imsryseb

4 жыл бұрын

@@kylecook8108 ok

@MikhaelAhava

4 жыл бұрын

Well…

@erikkarsies4851

4 жыл бұрын

60 fps full hd with vsync is good enough for me... And I tune my settings so my MSI 1660 Super fans barely spin up... aaaah the low noise

@erikkarsies4851

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikeycrackson If the vid card can render every frame in less than 1/60 second Vsync is perfectly fine :)

this aged poorly when talking about prices

"I was not expecting this to be so exciting" 🤣 😂 🤣 I love this guy he's like the king of the nerds.

Lowspecgamer : *sees only 1 stick of ram* oh my god you don't know how to use this underestimated power Edit: thanks for the likes

@sleepinredroses

4 жыл бұрын

xD

@keubis2132

4 жыл бұрын

same mistake again ..... low spec gamer is our only low budget guy

@0testacc111

4 жыл бұрын

Linus isnt a pc Expert. Dont be too harsh

@Youngeebear

4 жыл бұрын

@@0testacc111 not a PC expert? he has a whole KZread channel dedicated to PC's

@FroggyTWrite

4 жыл бұрын

why on earth he would only use a single stick of memory with an apu is mind boggling..

3:17 min Linus: this is a budget PC ME: Looking at Trident Z Royal RAM.

@eleos7

4 жыл бұрын

And Samsung 960 PRO

@OrangeC7

4 жыл бұрын

Looks *really budget* to me...

@TheRealObamagaming

4 жыл бұрын

core 2 duo gang

@strohhuttv8848

4 жыл бұрын

@@eleos7 Oh yeah I didn't noticed that one lmao.

@strohhuttv8848

4 жыл бұрын

@@OrangeC7 Yeah 👀

It should be noted that the NVME(even though they're now cheap) is going to be super important for these results.

"It's not that I'm hating on cheap processors, there's a time and a place, but I'm just too rich to give a fuck"

For love of god USE DUAL CHANNEL RAM especially with APUs the igpu benefits considerably from it

@juniperburton7693

4 жыл бұрын

BuT iTs a BuDgEt BuIlD

@Xanthelei

4 жыл бұрын

@@juniperburton7693 Budget doesn't have to mean stupid, especially with the equivalent being so close to the same price. My guess is he was being too lazy to find a set of sticks he could underclock at the right numbers, because why would he bother with 2x4 sets when he can snap his fingers and get 2x16 pairs.

@frank668668

4 жыл бұрын

@@juniperburton7693 You can do 2x4 GB instead of 1x8 GB it cost the same AND you'd get DC

@juniperburton7693

4 жыл бұрын

My comment was sarcastic.

@juniperburton7693

4 жыл бұрын

@@lawliot The 1650S is as good as a 1060

There are a couple problems: 1. Even in a super budget build, if you go AMD, you MUST use dual channel memory 2. No one uses a 150 dollars graphics card with an Athlon

@paolocazzaniga8735

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I agree. By using just a twin stick of RAM instead of one, the built in graphic chip would have seen a massive performance increase due to doubling the data exchanged. Then overclocking the CPU and the memory would have add another boost. Instead adding an external GPU defeats the purpose of the whole budget PC.

Meanwhile, my first AMD-based build uses the Athlon 3000G, with a Crucial 16GB matched pair kit (dual-channel). a 750W PSU, a Gigabyte A320M-S2H-CF motherboard, and Zorin OS 15.

I know this video is fairly outdated, but for Christmas 2022 I built my daughter a PC for her to use, and it has an Intel Celeron G5905, paired with a GTX 1080 TI low profile and it can run pretty damn well! I paid around $600, which includes a keyboard and mouse, AND a monitor! Paired with with a GPU, these budget processors arent too bad!

@yashtripathi8609

Жыл бұрын

Wish you, ur daughter and ur family a merry Christmas, I hope she has as much fun using the system as u had building it 😎

Linus: Remember this is a budget pc. Samsung 960pro 512GB: Am I a joke to you?

@devilmikey00

4 жыл бұрын

I mean the hard drive is kind of irrelevant for what their testing. It's in there for their own sanity I'd imagine so basic shit doesn't take forever to load.

@OttuR_

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the single trident z royal stick lol

@Shyphlosion

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the 950 EVO AND 960 PRO aren't super expensive these days. I've seen 1TB sticks of the shit on eBay for as low as $80, so it's very possible to slot one of those in a budget rig. :p

@louiefriesen

4 жыл бұрын

At least he didn't use an 970 PRO 2TB or 860 PRO 4TB.

@DaemonForce

4 жыл бұрын

Corsair MP510 240GB: Answer is yes.

Single-channel Memory LowSpecGamer: *TRIGGERED*

I got an athlon 3000g in my pc because of the integrated graphics, im waiting for a good deal

Linus: We are using Trident Z memory. Also Linus: Using only one stick of memory

remember this is a budget system > TridentZ Royal also single channel, in 2020, on Zen

@bedair3122

4 жыл бұрын

Big clown moment from ltt tbh

@udontneed2know801

4 жыл бұрын

So you guys know for a fact that it would do any worthwhile difference. Don't be ridiculous it would do a minimum of difference doing single channel or duel in this case atleast. It wouldn't give you the last 20% anyways.

@ssu7653

4 жыл бұрын

The cheapest 8gb stick i find, at the online store i prefer is $44.44 (2400mhz, cl17) For $50.27 i could get 2x4gb 2666mhz cl16, thats less than $6 prices include local tax and using google for currency rate

@vasilije94

4 жыл бұрын

@@ssu7653 This is the most budget build ever, and lets not forget that budget boards usually come with only 2 ram slots. So it doesn't make sense to go for dual channel of 4gb when you will have to replace both as soon as you want to upgrade. Also the dual channel would add like what? 2-5% of performance? Big deal. Its not ram problem. CPU is just weak. Be realistic.

@ShieTar_

4 жыл бұрын

@@udontneed2know801 For the GPU-Testing maybe, but for the iGPU-Test he does in the beginning, the single channel probably crippled him rather badly.

“That’s like a night at the movies” Me: I’m single so it’s 2 nights at the movies ;)

@lycanrocvevo147

4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah

@nando03012009

4 жыл бұрын

Or 1 night at the movies with alcohol and popcorn

@Deliveredmean42

4 жыл бұрын

I can watch 3 movies with popcorn and soda with that amount of money, heh.

@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure

4 жыл бұрын

20 movie nights for me XDXD.

@abissiniank

4 жыл бұрын

the movies nights are damn expensive there! O.O

Linux: Just go for a Ryzen 5 3600 Me a venezuelan: Oh well... I better get start in the organ black market business if I want to afford that.

@paulburger9904

3 жыл бұрын

Communism is a bitch.

@cafkn3664

3 жыл бұрын

Bro it's 250 Canadian

@Andres-ul9wo

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulburger9904 Tell me something that idk

@Andres-ul9wo

3 жыл бұрын

@@cafkn3664 And Venezuela is the country with the highest inflation in history just behind hungary

Sittin' on Atlon 200ge + GTX 960 4 GB. Have a R3-1200 + RX 590 on my main PC (which is 150 miles away). Just ordered a R5-3600 for my main, so the R3-1200 is gonna be slotted into the Athlon build. And I have an i5-2400 + GTX 750ti and an A8-9600 + WX2100 as well, one which my roommate is borrowing and the other is an OP WinXP retro machine.

the moment I saw a single DIMM in AMD system, I've started questioning my existence ;(

@michaelwerner5049

4 жыл бұрын

First time iv someone have a single stick of ram and a Zen cpu within 6 inches of each other.

@Roxor128

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwerner5049 I had that when I was diagnosing whether I had some faulty RAM. Turns out I did. Got it replaced under warranty from the manufacturer.

Linus:: Single channel Comment section: The internet never forgive or forget

@excitedbox5705

4 жыл бұрын

It is the LTT Verge moment right here.

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

I like my RAM to be just like me.

@lightningdev1

4 жыл бұрын

@@CaveyMoth So single I guess?

@excitedbox5705

4 жыл бұрын

@@lightningdev1 no, useless.

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

No, dual channel unganged mode, but you're close.

10:57 How on earth could you get so many views? This guy is running a DUAL channel CPU with 1 stick of ram, do you realise you've cut away half of bandwidth of this cpu, that you didn't overclock ram and tightened timings in bios? Do you realise that overclocking core clock speed won't change anything until this issue is eliminated ? My jaw dropped when i saw this part of the video... This is basic staff you don't understand

"Yaris vs a Honda fit" *Yaris GR has awakened*

3:55 "if you are gone do it, do it smart" Ltt run this with one memory channel.. yeaah so not like you did.. 2x4 cost the same as 1x8 (2666-3000 are under $40), with a 4 memory slot MB you can still upgrade it to 16gb later. That's some very basic Ryzen knowledge here..

@0testacc111

4 жыл бұрын

Linus isnt a pc Expert. Dont be too harsh

@mhx6437

4 жыл бұрын

@Ignacio Yeah, but the price is actually the same OR HIGHER for single-channel ram, so the argumsnt is irrelevant.

@Nathan-te7qr

4 жыл бұрын

@Ignacio Je's using a trident z and a Samsung m.2 ssd. Very realistic

@averagealoneredditor

4 жыл бұрын

Basic computing knowledge. My OCed 8600k ran like shit until I got dual-channel.

@kidShibuya

4 жыл бұрын

@@mhx6437 and all the pre-builts at this price point?.. this comments section is full of ignorant kids.

Linus drops the monitor......well that's one way around a bottleneck.

@kanumanu1656

4 жыл бұрын

If he dropped it again the fps would have been below 25

@ligofleyens9131

4 жыл бұрын

#LinusDropTips

@danielcunha6813

4 жыл бұрын

aren't you always one of the top commenters in almost every single LTT video?

Using dual channel 4x2 memory kit might result in more favourable results for the Athlone 3000G

"remember, this is a budget system" the budget system: has Trident Z RGB RAM

Where is Dual Channel? One stick of RAM? Come on Linus, you know AMD love bandwidth...

Why hasn't LTT talked about the 1600AF yet?

@xfastxeddiex

4 жыл бұрын

hands down best budget chip

@RandomPlaceHolderName

4 жыл бұрын

@@xfastxeddiex Easily.

@Voornaz

4 жыл бұрын

@@RandomPlaceHolderName no that's i3 8100 😡

@znoozi

4 жыл бұрын

this, with a rx570 for just over $100

@jeyendeoso

4 жыл бұрын

no, he cant talk about the 1600AF, if he talks how good value that chip is, they'll completely disappear off the market!

"50$ a night at the movies and not even your own popcorn" That hit so close to home

I love how so many amd CPUs are all am4. Such great upgradeability

50 dollars for a night out at the movies!

@LinusTechTips

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I assumed you would have a date.... Awkward....

@natekovo8894

4 жыл бұрын

@@LinusTechTips F

@roembol

4 жыл бұрын

Linus Tech Tips did you heart your own comment?

@LightBlazeMC

4 жыл бұрын

@@LinusTechTips oh dang

@brycesoker601

4 жыл бұрын

@@LinusTechTips 25 bucks per person on the movies? Man, Canada will bankrupt everyone.

Wow, you crippled that Vega 3 with single-channel memory...

Its not like a night at the movies everywhere... in Serbia, it's like 4-5 working days of pay, or about 4-5 movie nights

At least those CPUs beat my 2012 MacBook Pro's 3rd Gen i5, my score was 541. My PC's i7 9700K got 3600+, and my brother's maxed out 2019 13" MacBook Pro's i7 8569U got ~1700.

Remember guys, you can overclock the GPU as well and in combination with faster dual channel memory, it could be used for super budget gaming

@jojoba_24

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, but they wanted to show their fancy trident Z RAM instead

@ERROR_-_404

4 жыл бұрын

and remember to allocate more ram to the GPU in the bios.

@jojoba_24

4 жыл бұрын

For real, underrated comment

@TitanBeats

4 жыл бұрын

@@ERROR_-_404 wait does that mean i can use my 16gb of ram to improve my gpu's Vram from 2gb?

@ERROR_-_404

4 жыл бұрын

@@TitanBeats i don't know what the limit is. but 2 should be enough

"Do it smart" yet dual channel will significantly make it more fast and improve performance.

0:10 Bold of you to assume I am going to the movies with someone else and not just buying two tubs of popcorn for myself.

2020: Should you buy a $50 CPU? 2022: Same CPU costs $120.

*single channel memory Me: REEEEEEEEEE

Low spec gamer: **DUAL CHANNEL!**

At my local cinema - you can get 2 tickets, 2 drinks and a good size popcorn each for under £20 TOTAL - that’s under $25...

@LadyHannelore

4 жыл бұрын

lol your cinema is cheap i pay 20 bucks for popcorn and a drink not including ticket.

I get 10 cent per day,my parents don't give me anything for Christmas,and 50 dollars is a lot

"If you're gonna do this, do it smart" ... "..etc. etc. etc. stability. etc... We're just going to go full hail mary"

Confusing as to why you have single stick ram, I've built a lot of budget builds and dual channel performance is worth the extra $10 on any budget build.

@excitedbox5705

4 жыл бұрын

2x4 costs the same as 1x8 even.

@MrGoldenfresh

4 жыл бұрын

@@excitedbox5705 so you can upgrade whenever you want with another 8 down the line

@antwanfisher8748

4 жыл бұрын

@@excitedbox5705 Well were I'm from and with the ram I use patriot premium between a 8GB single to a dual with 4GB sticks, it would cost me $5 more to order the two 4GB sticks on amazon. So markets vary, I just guessed it would be about a $10 difference. Yes both are the same clock.

@japaneseotaku7532

4 жыл бұрын

I agree they might have reached near the fps of ryzen 5 3600 if they have used the dual channel set up on their test rig

@Kyle-yn5hy

4 жыл бұрын

It might not be realistic, but the point was seeing how powerful the CPU is in the least powerful system configuration possible. You can easily assume a more powerful build with two stick of ram would be, well, more powerful. I don’t understand your problem here.

I recently built a system using Intel's cheapest desktop processor, the $40 10th gen base Celeron. The entire build was $265 after tax. I put an $8 cpu thermal pad, $11 thermaltake aftermarket cooler,$22 stick of 8 gigs of RAM, $65 MB, cheapo thermal take PSU and tower, etc. And it's a pretty good build. Maybe great. If you just want to do office/web browsing/ youtube/netflix. It's actually speedy and capable. It's obviously not for gaming in any modern games.(I have a Haswell Refresh Xeon based build from 5 years ago, with 32GB ram and an R9 390 GPU for that)

This is what I watch when I'm doing my online classes 🤣

“Drag race between a Yota Yaris and a Honda Fit” Lmao.

@eddtru

4 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean Toy Yoda (laugh track)

@TheGriffin200

4 жыл бұрын

Ironic considering Toyota just announced the Yaris GR which has 257 horsepower

@Racingboom

4 жыл бұрын

TheGriffin200 wait fr, that’s badass

@keon5779

4 жыл бұрын

@@Racingboom Yeah, not for North America for now. 257-257 HP, manual, AWD, completely different body, carbon fiber reinforced panels, weighs under 1200 kgs. LSDs and Michelin performance tires are optional.

@MiGujack3

4 жыл бұрын

@@eddtru How about Turbo Yoda

"Dropping knowledge since 2008" On their foot usually.

Maaan, when one buys 50 bux CPU he ain't going to run crazy hot stuff on it, more like minecraft/terraria/some old titles. Like, the whole purpose of this is just playing games that you weren't able to play before on your old rig. Which, on the contrary, may be something like Pt 2c on 775 socket or Xn 4c, maybe even FM1 and FM2 sockets. Not to mention the whole horde of FX-users who try to push limits out of Bulldozer core. Witcher 2 for example, or some decent indie games, survival games That's realistic stuff for a budget rig, I know what I'm talking about, low-end rig here.

A massive positive to the AMD chip is that it's AM4 which means it will be easy to upgrade in the future

Linus: don’t cheap out on a cpu Linus sometime later: but a 50 dollar cpu Everyone: ok Linus

@hellblaze8082

4 жыл бұрын

Dude the first cpu that I bought was only 3$

@Skozerny

4 жыл бұрын

There is actually a good sub 100 dollar CPU which is the 1600 AF. MSRP 85 dollars with Ryzen 2600 performance.

@hellblaze8082

4 жыл бұрын

Bro my whole rig. Costs 200

@hellblaze8082

4 жыл бұрын

Yours can too if you can get your hands on some good quality used stuff

@knightmare39

4 жыл бұрын

@@hellblaze8082 Did it run on hopes and dreams?

3:16 RGB ram An Nvme ssd Linus: ''Remember this is a budget system''

@PSYCHOV3N0M

4 жыл бұрын

Nvme2??? 2???

@DaLoler1

4 жыл бұрын

He said the ram is set to low speed to simulate a budget ram stick

@InfernosReaper

4 жыл бұрын

to be fair, some NVME SSDs are pretty cheap. To be unfair, aside from me, what idiot's gonna get a single stick of RAM and hope that *later* they can afford the second stick rather than filling the board and spending the same amount to replace the set later on anyway?

@kuhluhOG

4 жыл бұрын

@@InfernosReaper yeah, but he used a Samsung NVMe 970 Pro instead of a cheap SSD

@freddybigs10

4 жыл бұрын

Nvme is irrelevant for the test being performing as it only affects loading times and not FPS.

Linus: "then again, you can always OC a 3600" Me with a 800mhz oc all core on air with stable temps: "lmao bet"