Gamers Nexus told me I needed this... so here it is!
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Gamers Nexus said I needed to check out the EKWB Loophole! But how should I use this $490 distro plate and pump res combo?!
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Before watching the video, I had no idea what practical use there could possibly be for this thing. After watching the video, I'm pretty sure there's none.
@johndegnan5703
Ай бұрын
I totally agree. Completely unnecessary expense.
@The_Funguseater
Ай бұрын
@@johndegnan5703 like %99 of modern PC builds
@Riddler290
Ай бұрын
I mean you could….. yep no idea
@chillhour6155
Ай бұрын
Slap some RGB on anything and it would sell
@Talezi1
Ай бұрын
some coloured sleeves with that +50$
Hyyyyype!!! This is everything I wanted hahaha. You have more patience than I do for these kinds of projects. Looking forward to seeing this in a case!
@TheScyy
Ай бұрын
Thanks Steve.
@802Garage
Ай бұрын
You can literally see it!
@StoneXue
Ай бұрын
Definitely
@pronstorestiffi
Ай бұрын
Poppa is here
@KathosV
Ай бұрын
He's gotta show us young'ins how to do it!
They say 32 options, and what I hear is "32 possible points of failure."
@endlosschleife
Ай бұрын
But at least you know where those are 😅
@jimmycakes12
Ай бұрын
You the kinda dude that looks a 10 million dollar house and goes who's gonna clean that
@kurtwinter4422
Ай бұрын
Thirty three - the entire device as well
@rustler08
Ай бұрын
So, what you do is put this inside of an even bigger reservoir.
@endlosschleife
Ай бұрын
@@jimmycakes12 As a German, that would be me.
seeing the gamers nexus video on ek today made me think about the opening quote of "nevermind the condition ek sent them to me in." i dont think these are guna leave their inventory anytime soon...
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
22 күн бұрын
so what's the difference between torque and horse power?🤔
It would look cool in a duel loop system, have different coloured fluids, and have them crossing into each others distro thing. Dont know how well they'd show up through the tubes and liquid, but might be a neat idea
@PBaka13
Ай бұрын
If he did one clear and one a dark color would probably sort of work.
@italianbasegard
Ай бұрын
Duel loop system! 🔫🔫🔫
@AriManPad8gi
Ай бұрын
who are they fighting?
@accursedpanda
Ай бұрын
This was my first thought, too. Depending on colors and their opacity there could be some really interesting combinations. Experimenting with different combinations would be a lot of fun. Like, would running a tube of blue through a block of yellow make the tube look green? Or what happens when you run a tube of Mystic Fog through a reservoir of (see through) color? And those are just a couple initial ideas.
@sirmonkey1985
Ай бұрын
some kind of red vs blue where they both cross over between the manifolds multiple times would be cool.
If you build a loop inside of the res, then run sub ambient coolant through it, you could use it as a heat exchanger!
@scootersfrog
Ай бұрын
this needs explored lol
@earthtaurus5515
Ай бұрын
Yes, you could but you also need something to remove that heat and since it's going inside a PC... the only place that heat is going is the surrounding so you'd end up higher ambient temps lol. Unless you have ducting through a wall or something lol...
@brendanlee4444
Ай бұрын
@@earthtaurus5515 I hear pools are good for that.........
@goktug3
Ай бұрын
So is that sub ambient coolant in the room with us right now?
@Nareimooncatt
Ай бұрын
Doubt it would be effective unless you were using crazy cold coolant. With pipes that large and runs that short the amount of surface area available to carry out the exchange is minimal.
0:21 oddly prophetic, given the recent news
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
22 күн бұрын
the box is a little damaged it's still good it's still good
@allgrainbrewer10
5 сағат бұрын
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue and EK still sucks.
Make all the inner tube run as the component loop. Then cool the outer liquid with its own loop. That's why Steve said, water cool the water cooler.
I’m a pipe fitter and push lock fittings work fine I use them all the time. Just make sure you don’t have a super sharp edge so it doesn’t cut the o-ring.
@sathos
Ай бұрын
Yup, especially when, as Jay said - the pump is low pressure high flow. If anything were to take out one of those fittings it would be a pressure build up which is mega unlikely.
@ledoynier3694
Ай бұрын
they are not push lock i believe, just two orings queezing the tube with no physical lock. But yea, the D5 and DDC have nowhere enough pressure to make one of those come out.
Idea: if you're using two of these, use one on the gpu loop and one on the cpu loop. use copper tubing inside the reservoir as a heat exchanger between the two loops. Connect one of the outputs from one into the array of copper tubes in the other. That way, if one loop gets too hot and has to spool up, the other takes on some of the heat. You'd have to use the topmost center input ports, so it would probably be best to use glass tubing to minimize air ingress as water would slowly leave through plastic tubes (to prevent air getting mixed down into the loops), but it would look sick as hell. Is it ludicrous overkill? Sure. That's part of the fun though. EDIT: this might actually make the individual loops easier to do depending on the cases fan mounts. The cpu loop could be on the back, with the radiator IO towards the back, and the GPU could be on the front, completely avoiding the area where the CPU loop parts would go. Then you could have that go-between fit right in the middle between the two.
@noba4696
Ай бұрын
uhh nice idea, I second this.
@alexdrockhound9497
Ай бұрын
could even solder on some fins to the copper tubing to increase heat transfer.
@Rangerthelonewolf
Ай бұрын
These ideas are worth testing. Would be good to do the stand clear tube test. Get baselines. Then do the copper tubing and/or copper tubing with fins.
@Groovewonder2
Ай бұрын
@@Rangerthelonewolf Linus already did something like this but on a MUCH bigger scale. They did a wholeass heat exchanger block in a custom desk PC for some minecraft youtuber/streamer person with a huge manifold of copper tubes between the loops. It's the "$100k gaming pc" or something like that if you wanna look it up.
@LarsDJ
Ай бұрын
Just stop... run a full loop then
Falcon northwest still making fragboxes makes me so happy. Back in the mid 2000s as a diehard maximumpc reader it was my dream to own one, always seeing their ads. And now I still can!
Funny watching this after the release of Steve's EK takedown 😬
Hmmm 2 loops different colors. Have the opposite color going into reservoir would look cool.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
22 күн бұрын
does not work if they are mixing with each other though🤣🤣 you'll figure it out when your like why are both loops changing to the same color? and be like oh🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Take off the fittings that are blocked due to internal tubing and put rgb lights in them. You can sync them to indicate the hot/cold water and/or cpu/gpu. As well as pulsating the flow orientation.
@Jayztwocents engineering nerd tip. That distribution plate sort of works like a tube and shell heat exchanger. The benefit of using this is that you cool the water mid loop before it reaches the next component. Tube and shell heat exchangers operate at maximum efficiency when the cooling water, and the water being cooled flow in opposite directions. So any loop segments routed internally should flow in closer to the pump suction, and flow out further away from the pump suction to get the maximum cooling effect. It would be great to see you discuss this in a future video, and implement this concept into your build to the maximum practical extent. I'm excited to see how the build turns out, and am a big fan of both you and @GamersNexus!
@wheelerthree
Ай бұрын
that only works if the tubing you use has good thermal transfer. acrylic wouldn't work for that. This is just for show. Something made with purpose would have been made with copper tubing and directed flow channels where there was a clearly marked chilled side and hot side.
Phanteks NV9 White, if you want a white and black water build. Im using the nv9 case myself.
As for case: How about the Lian Li V3000+? Go big or go home.
@james...cardinal
Ай бұрын
build in the green neighborhood power box by the sidewalk
@fuzzylumpkins6034
Ай бұрын
A fish tank. Then the 32 points of failure would make sense. Scuba Steve would love it
The Thermaltake CTE E600 MX would be a cool case for this as it fits up to 3x 140s in the back 👍
Couple options: 4 vertical tubes in two different coolant colors running vertically through clear coolant. Then you can use white colored RGB fans to provide glow. Second, use short straight pipes and plug into the two port sets. Then alternate the colored coolants between tubes.
You can use this in a dual loop set up where each loop is a different color and fill this block with one color and pipe the other color through the block so you can see it going through. Maybe clear yellow in the block and blue in the pipe throughs so you see green piping through.
@michaelmiller3012
Ай бұрын
Use glass tubing - you can buy 12mm OD borosilicate glass tubes with 90-degree bends - also, you'll know if any of the fittings leak because the colors will blend
@Dre_Key
Ай бұрын
Like this idea I hope he tries it
500$ before tax for this plate without fittings is absolutely insane.. Who buys this??
@sirmonkey1985
Ай бұрын
no one that's using it for a practical build.. definitely something aimed more at the exhibition/display custom build at shows type stuff.
@jacobnewland7896
Ай бұрын
Enthusiast
@MrVidification
Ай бұрын
The easily led hobbyist with plenty of disposable cash
@firesurfer
Ай бұрын
People who sold their 3080 for a 4090.
Use them in the Phanteks NV9 🤘🏻
This reminds me of an old Numberphile episode on the Enigma machine, with the plugbank on the front for that extra scrambling..... it is uttering ridiculous and I love it.
Nv9 case. Huge and plenty of room to work and full glass to show it off.
Hey Jay, you wanted to build in the Phanteks NV9 , maybe you can use that case here.
Phanteks NV9 with the double loop could be sick
@JayzTwoCents you can open the pump and solder a 4 pin PWM fan wire to the pump. You just have to be careful that the pump doesn't pull more amperage than the motherboard can handle.
Got an ek240 aio hearing constantly how high quality they are designed and in my opinion have a very nice sleek aesthetic.
Someone at EK was being a troll, and the CEO said "bet? put it in production.."
Case idea: Phanteks NV9 It would be interesting to see considering that Bykski have a distro/pump specifically designed for the NV7. Although what would be really interesting is have 2 loops (contrasting colours) where the loops go into the opposite distro plates!
@ICERNK
Ай бұрын
Great idea! Also vote for nv9... 🤞
I could see this being really cool with a duel loop and different color coolant. You could have the reservoir be red coolant and have blue flow through it giving a real freaky look. Or something along those lines.
Use a case where you can have one in the front, one in the back. Create unnecessary loopage and have different colors for CPU and GPU. Non-opague coolant but 2 different colors so you can see the other color within each resevoir.
This video didn't age well.... super awkward watching this AFTER the EK fallout.
This is pretty dope and the possibilities are quite versatile. EK makes some neato stuff. Also, use it in the NV9
@AB-80X
Ай бұрын
Exactly what makes that thing neat? In all my years doing water cooling, I have never needed that, and I never will.
@user-vsmsdos
Ай бұрын
@@AB-80X Watercool inception bro. Tubing in the front waterfall in the back! all contained! You could even do a loop with different colors in the tubing and the waterfall in the back could be on a different loop and be a cool contrast of colors. There's a lot of possiblity with this.
The order of operations is important. With the way those 90s are attached you could insert your the tubes first and then screw both sides in the distro plate.
ok, idea. I have been looking at this and have been thinking about building my own case with this. (I don't have the skills nor the money to do now) but you can :) Use an old case for form factor and make it a piece of designer furniture, but still showcasing the watercooled build with the block as the main scene :)
When are you going to watercool your favorite KZreadr?
@Mr.Morden
Ай бұрын
Linus just did that with the bidet.
@AB-80X
Ай бұрын
That sounds so wrong on so many levels…
Maybe that was ups, fedex, or usps fault
@ryandann9362
Ай бұрын
Both boxes were likely shipped in another box, possibly with their own padding. The out box probably had no damage. This made Jay come to the conclusion the box was packed damaged and did not happen from shipping. Otherwise, since Jay does not seem like a moron, he would know it was damaged in shipping, and not make the comment about it in the first place. Or you know, it was damaged in shipping, and in that case you're saying Jay is a moron who can't figure that out, and assumes it was the company's fault and not damaged in shipping.
for a Case you should use a Hyte Y70t. tons of glass to showcase from many different angles. The 45 degree double corner for an added element "Showyness", you can run a loop in between the displays in the 45 degree corner to either the Vertical GPU or to the CPU.
Got to be an Inwin case. Also you can have 2 different colour loops with the internal tubes being different to the filled liquid
@AB-80X
Ай бұрын
In win 915 would be fun
aged like milk
Maybe that was ups, fedex, or usps fault?
@pederb82
Ай бұрын
Of course it is. It’s the us.
@AB-80X
Ай бұрын
When something is that small, it is easy for the sender to pack it. They know how it is treated. That was on EK.
I love the collabs and challenges among tech channels. ❤
This feels like its best use would be as a key to mak another distro plate.
Like if you watch this video after the ek scandal 😢
This video didn't survive long.
A dual loop with the runs passing through the other loops resivour would look pretty cool. Have them different colors too.
When you use two of these and clear tubes, how about using different dyes and let the loops "cross" so you get a color mix. Let the colored water from the first reservoir flow through the internal loop of the other and visa versa.
~10:30 in, you're talking about the fittings not having any sort of clamping ability like external ones. It's not like you need to worry about them leaking at all. :)
Great video man! and Case I think you should use the new Hyate Y70 Touch.
This would be awesome to use in a build with two of these distro plates, but run them as to serperate loops with different colours and have them run through each other, so you get like pink tubes in a blue reservoir and blue tubes in the pink res.
ThermalTake P8 TG massive case ample room and looks sick with the sides taken off and just having an open case. That's how I run mine
Hey Jay & team, the case I would like for to see you use for these Loop Hole products is the EK-Quantum InWin 977EK. Thanks for the video!
Use them in conjunction with the Singularity quad 560 radiator waterboxes!! Have one desk for the computer and watercooling, and a second for the monitor setup.
Falcon northwest would have a nice lineup of a OG-Oversized case for a full motherboard cooling block build with a big space for reservoir custom wide diameter tubed watercooling for just board itself. The gpu can be optional in the air cooling or waterblock addition.
I like the new thumbnail style, keep up the good work guys.
O11 Dynamic Evo, of course! Its just an awesome case, even if its been out a while and its incredibly common.
@AB-80X
Ай бұрын
Booooooriing!!!!
Using two of these in 2 separate loops with different fluid colors that pass through the other colors blocks would be interesting. Such as a Yellow loop in one with a Blue loop in the other so you get a Green look inside the blocks where the one loop passes through the other.
I think you should use the two of those as the ends of your case and build copper tubing runs between them as the frame of your custom built case....
this would be cool for a showoff kind of build. with 2 of em you could have 2 independent loops with different color coolants running through. like one loop for CPU and the other for GPU where loop 1 can run through internal routing through manifold 2 and vise versa kinda like the umbrella corp virus tubes.
Oooh, if you had two loops that don’t connect (say for a GPU and CPU) you could use the reservoir for one with a transparent color and then do several tubes inside with like a glitter color additive. Then you get lines of one color running through your other color. Could look neat
2 in a build but separate loops with different colours so you could have one loop pass through inside the manifold of the other
Jay, it would be interesting for you to go really obscure with the build with one distro plate for the cpu and gpu, which is transferring the heat of these components to the other distroplate with just radiators. It would be interesting to see how much heat can be removed from the loop by just fitting and cables inside of the reservoir combo.
jay you should do a twin loop with these. one loop being as an example blue and the other red. have one loop a going through loop b's block
If you have all things feeding into this at sections of the loop it might help temps by acting as a heat exchanger. Hot out from CPU passing through the cold reservoir
Im looking forward to seeing the insane build that Yall use it in.
Regardless of what EKWB offers, if it's acrylic. Expect cracks when used for a short period of time due to thermal expansion.
2 of those would be nice for car build, make them as cylinder heads for a v-engine
I guess you could have the returns at the top, cascading over water wheels, tipping buckets, etc.
Very late on this one, but Koolance does have some very low-profile 90 degree elbows (NZL-LXG2). Though I used barbed fittings and zip-ties because I was using 16mm tubing.
that unique design doesnt need to be tubes fit with pressure and stuff... because vacuum from the pump it will make the tubes compress in the fittings making it well fit without too much effort and its a really interesting design to be honest
Build double system with double loops that go through each other's reservoir. Then have different color liquids. Product would make more sense if it was sectors of holes and plexiglass+o-ring inserts that are positioned & screwed sandwiched inside the reservoir. Less holes, less fittings, factory finished inserts instead of user erroring pipe bending. Could probably get RGB leds inside the fitted parts through unused holes. And about 500 dollar less of expensive special fittings.
Could do some cool stuff with dual loops in this with different coloured fluids etc. Using the manifold as a res for one loop and the internal runs for the other.
I would think you could use it by connecting components in parallel i.e. multiple outs (or split after the outlet using T fittings) to each component then each component returns to a separate inlet port
I put a thicc 480mm rad with push pull EK fans on the front of a Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 and a 240mm rad on top. The original plan was too cool both cpu and gpu with this big loop but it was back when gpu's were impossible to get. I ended up getting a watercooled 6900xt from asus with its own 240 or 280 rad. Luckily my case had space for all 3 radiators, and 6 HDD cages as well. I love that computer. I will probably be building out of that same case, using the same EK hardware, for many many years. Can't wait to see what you build with this wild and wacky cooling hardware!
Damn!!! That'll be a number one thing I need in my next build. It's pretty much like adding a fan to a case. BTW, will 12mm soft tubing work as well?
This would fit perfectly in my Thermaltake View 51
I think it could be interesting with two as you could do 2 different colours next to each other one being routed through the others reservoir
Copper tubes running into the reservoir from another reservoir. filled with ice water made by a EK TEC cooling block would be a sick build.
With two blocks/loops, use one with clear water and the other with an intense color. And then run the color tubing through the clear water block.
even if you dont like coloured fluid, it would be fun to have an am5/nvidia build with one res with green and one with red, but the tubing go through the opposite reservoir making the red and green fluid cross each other in the reservoir. well, intel in blue would work too.
@alb9022
Ай бұрын
so if we don't like colored fluid, it'd be fun to have colored fluid?
@SireSquish
Ай бұрын
@@alb9022 yes, because it would be fun :)
I should show you how my replacement pump arrived. I took pictures of it. The box was concave on one side and it was shipped in the retail box. Luckily it survived.
I wonder if you could combine this with copper tubing and get something insane like the LTT chiller and use one loop to cool the fluid for the main loop as to avoid condensation issues from sub zero temps. Essentially by running the warm end of the loop of the main systems cooling through the sub zero fluid from the chiller to remove more heat from the liquid. It's completely excessive and entirely niche but could be fun.
im glad to see jay and gamersnexus have a good relation the only two tech reviewers i even care to watch
As a diesel mechanic, I agree, compression fittings. Push ins will fail. Just a matter of when.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
22 күн бұрын
depends on the pressure the higher the pressure the sooner it will fail💀💀
The Be Quiet Case you reviewed not long ago sounds like good pick
We do have a compression fitting small enough to fit inside the distro, it's in your hand at 11:47
A two loop system would look super cool with two of these. Have one color loop red and the other blue but transparent colored. Then run each loop through each block so the tubes inside the blocks would look purple
@Minivan3023
Ай бұрын
Had the same idea. I had yellow and blue in mind to make green
@arieshydragaming3334
Ай бұрын
I keep seeing people suggest this idea, but it would only work for a few minutes. After the coolant circulates back into the reservoirs, it will have been mixed. How do you plan to separate the mixed colors?
@quikspecv4d
Ай бұрын
@@arieshydragaming3334 it would be two separate loops with separate pumps so no mixing
The DeepCool Morpheus case would seem interesting. It has plenty of spacing for water cooling and distro plates, so you could easily pull it off with that. Also not to mention it can fit a ridiculous amount of fans.
Would be kind of cool to run two of those with two "seperate" cooling loops for cpu/gpu with different color liquid going through tubes of other color (hard to make sense of that) but you get it.
Should toss it in a Monotech King 95. It has space for two 140mm that pivot, allowing you to use either the glass plate on the front, or a mesh panel. Also, that case comes in many different color options.
Based on the video I'm pretty sure it'd work, but testing may disagree. When fitting/measuring the internal tubing, do the start like you did, fittings inside in place, then take both fittings out when you place the tube into the fittings, then put the fittings with the tubing already connected back in. Since the low profile fittings appear to tighten independently of the connection point quite easily. This should allow you to get a tighter fit to compensate for the loss of a compression connection. Should be able to get the extra mm or 2 you likely lose due to needing some manipulation space.
That would be an awesome theme build for the Disney movie Elemental. Have two of the blocks with one holding red "Fire" fluid with the tubing for the red fluid going into the other block that holds the blue "Water" color. Then vise versa. The blue tubing running in the red block. An amazing Fire and Ice build. Please think on it.
Would be interesting to see this in a Fractal Design case. Haven't seen many watercooling builds in them.
This could be cool if you had a dual loop system and ran clear fluid in the reservoir side of this and used the internal tubes to run a coloured fluid on the other loop. Or even experiment with combining colours to get a third colour inside this block
Using two make dual loop, one is the rest for CPU but the return tube matrix(?) is the GPU and the other is GPU res with CPU return tube matrix.
I like how much room for creativity this will provide. A waterfall? Sure! Crazy multi loops with different fluids? Heck ya!
I had to do a lot of custom grinding and hacking to my Cooler Master Cosmos c700m and the included gpu mount to fit two 60mm 360 radiators and retain my optical drive as well as an elgota capture card and usb card, but it came out wonderful
Hey @Jayztwocents, I know that you like old PCs. It isn't quite a PC but my mom still uses a iMac G5 from 2005. Still her only PC, will provide photos when I get one.
I can see you're building up to a 10-part follow up video series here.