Here's how to "fix" the sound, based on many compounding issues from this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKCdvMZse724gpc.html

@gerardhughes

2 жыл бұрын

I'll be curious to find out what you mean by saying that people are "misled a bit." Pretty much everybody agrees that this mic does not sound good as used in the video - which is a rather strong consensus given how individual the preference for various microphones can be. Presumably you adjusted it to the best settings possible for the review. Not sure why it should need to be "fixed" if you did that.

@hyunjoonkim

2 жыл бұрын

I love your content, but this time the mic sounds awful because of the way you processed it as evidenced by the raw sample which sounds a lot more natural. For speech, you generally want to put a high pass filter at around 80hz to get rid of unwanted rumble/plosives and make gentle cuts at problematic frequencies. You've boosted 30hz-200hz by nearly 3db which makes your voice sound very bloated and the super aggressive cut at 1K is totally unnecessary. Professional XLR microphones generally take EQ a lot better than cheaper mics, so you might've been able to get away with these EQ settings on more expensive mics, but with this you need to be way more gentle with your EQ. Other people are complaining about the sound quality not because they don't like your content, but because it genuinely sounds worse.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

A- I HAVE a high-pass filter on in this video. B - cut wasn't that aggressive (the scale on this EQ is very small) and everyone else with videos of it "sounding good" have a much sharper cut C - literally I'm EQing more gentle than basically every other review right now. Updated the post w/ the video walking through what I encountered.

@gerardhughes

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox Since you don't seem to believe the large number of people who say the microphone did not sound good in your video, perhaps you could consult an audio professional you do trust to give an objective evaluation? I'm really not super sensitive to the differences between various microphones, but in this video it really did not sound good. Part of getting to the bottom of that, and why it sounded good to you, but not to your audience, is something you really should get a third party involved with since your own ears don't seem to be agreeing with your audience.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

I guess y'all didn't make it to the audio comparison section where I literally ranked it second-to-last out of the mics I compared it to... or? I'm aware it doesn't sound great. A big part of that is just the mic itself, rather than everyone jumping to blame it on my settings. Which is why I posted this third video walking through exactly which parts don't sound great, including some resonant frequencies I've never had to EQ out of a mic before. My entire conclusion was that the sound for the price wasn't good. There's no not believing or professionals that need consulting lmao.

Really awesome review of this new mic, AND I love your retro studio. I'm all about that!

Excellent and fun review to watch. I interviewed a candidate this week as he was using this mic and love it! I understand there are many other options, but for a basic mic and not near as skilled as you or most of those posting comments, seems decent for me, unless anyone can suggest another similar option based on price and quality all in one. My son's gone through three different mics with his insane set up, so I'm curious for his input and others. Thanks again for this review just based on hearing one guy yesterday for 30 min alone! Love your set up and entire room!

The mic comparison just convinced me to get an RE20.

@flyc0de389

2 жыл бұрын

Did you buy it? Just watched this and is the greatest of the comparison, but in the rest of videos in YT I've watched so far it doesn't stand out so impressively as in here. Which makes me doubt, YT is flooded with sponsors, so is really difficult to make a safe choice

Adam, did you have any processing on the mics audio during this video (never mind, I see the EQ in the software)? I ask because it sounds really fatiguing. The frequencies aren't pleasant to listen to. It sounds a lot better without an processing. But I'd still go for an SM7b or RE20, they sound much more pleasing.

The intro animation and all the graphics/b-rolls are fantastic ! Love the look and the vibe of the whole review ! And well, the sound of the mic... i already commented and the newer vid ! It's not bad, it's just a bit to processed. The price point may be a complicated argument, but that's not your fault, that's BEACN choice :)

I honestly like go xlr just for the 3 inputs. it has a lot of purpose outside of streaming. :)

Would you say for people who are starting out with streaming that the Elgato Wave (due to the price and the Wave software) would still be a more viable option?

@jamillmaldonado8812

2 жыл бұрын

better prices with vst added recently if you don't need the added accessories for the wave 3 from elgato is a great choice not perfect thought but for starters yeah it's the best in my book definitely go with the wave 3 for starters or the podmic with a cheap interface works perfect if you have money the Rodecaster Pro which no kidding it's the best one I've bought so far but any cheap interface that lets you connect any xlr mic to the PC is the best bet for super professional audio

Interesting Mic! I love your take. But like other viewers, I'm surprised about the audio quality, at least processed. I listened to the video and audio comparisons on my Phillps open-back headphones, IEMs, and on my iPhone and I actually preferred the unprocessed sound of the Beacn mic. But great job with the video! Your perspective is refreshing as always. I'm still really interested in the microphone overall. I love the software and I could see myself picking this up eventually when I want to just run with a USB mic. It's a shame it doesn't work with Mac properly yet because that would be where I'd like to use it. I still love my RE20, but it might be a tool to pick up eventually. EDIT: after I kept listening, and rewatched the video, the processed sound of the Beacn Mic doesn't bother me as much. It's still not my cup of tea, but it's not horrific by any means.

Thank you so much for educating us so well streamer daddy wizard

I think a lot of folks have missed that this mic is more of a 'complete solution', my understanding is that it has the DragonFly Red DAC/AMP chip built into it. It makes a lot of sense to incorporate that for a good audiophile setup.

I already like your videos from the introduction. I'm subscribing

2022, epos vox goes from good consistency -> "yoo another epos vid, letss gooo"

Thank you for the information.

Finally a company that gives you noise reduction as well as eq and compression.

Man, the RE-20 really stands head and shoulders above everything else in the world of speaking voice capture.

I really love the personality in this video I was grinning in the transitions. This is such a great review. If I ever decide to reduce my setup I may look at a beacn mike.

Love your content. Been waiting for this review. 279 seems a bit high. Id rather go with a XLR and cheap mic setup but I recognize how convenient having all of this in 1 solution is

Holy sh*t 3:25 that is one fire hazard of a room lmao I can't imagine the energy bill! But it does look cool as hell

I see lots of people commenting that it sounds too compressed (and it does), but it seems it might have been the way the sound was processed (very aggressive mids) since the raw audio (here: 9:38) does not sound as congested as the processed one (here: 10:33 or anywhere else in the video where the audio was clearly post-processed). So, it would be interesting to see an appendix to this video where we can see different types of audio processing styles (with some non "broadcasty" tunings) to see how this mic fares.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

I'll definitely be going more in-depth as time allows! "Very aggressive mids" is a very interesting conclusion given I cut SO much of them out, but I agree with the conclusion regardless

@IOSam

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox Awesome! And I apologize for misspeaking there: I meant to say the mids were aggressively CUT (and not that they were boosted). On a separate note: I love the Starscream meets Dave Mustaine voice of your "Streaming Bro"!!! XD

So whats better mv7 or the beacn mic? because I was thinking about getting the mv7

Love your review, but I'm kind of hating the sound. I don't know if it's your EQ settings or just the mic itself, but it sounds super harsh and compressed. I listened on speakers, DT770 headphones and IEM's and it was generally not super enjoyable. The clip from Linux almost sounded the best and fullest, without being as harsh and compressed. The review itself was still very good and I really like how in depth you test it.

@zombyslayr6667

2 жыл бұрын

It does sound a little strange. I don’t stream enough to pay that kind of money for a microphone anyway. Lol

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

I just posted a video breaking down why it sounds bad and most of it comes from lack of proximity effect and some weird frequencies in 500hz and 2000hz range that I didn’t touch because I’ve never had to before. Nothing about my EQing here is unconventional and is mostly in line with most of the reviews I have seen from Naaackers, Harris, Sam, etc kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKCdvMZse724gpc.html “Most streamers are using the SM7b” is also a completely out of touch comment to make lol

@ghost-user559

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox I kind of actually am surprised to say the Fifine K658 sounds better? Although this definitely comes with more optional accessories and software. But it’s kind of true that something seems “off” about this one. Empty somehow. Do you think it’s something to do with the build quality or a software setting? Edit-Although it might be the internal processor because this one is definitely way more forgiving to clipping. It must be something to do with the internal processing in the microphone itself. Huh.

@rioluvo

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox idk if you meant you said that, but no one commented anything about the SM7B? also, regardless of the price, would you say the SM7B is better than the BEACN for streaming?

@eddie.guerena1981

2 жыл бұрын

Does it sound bad on your phone or what’s your reference?

Could I trade voice meeter for this mics App entirely or what, would like to know your opinion on it!

Sound levels seem to be fluctuating a bit? Doesn’t sound very good at all considering the hype.. I’m still going to save up and get the Earthworks Ethos instead! That one sounded amazing!

@nickglover

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's because he has way too much compression on for a lot of the video (you can see in his mic chain he's hitting like 10 dB of reduction sometimes, way too much for this kind of audio). For a mic review, I'd have hoped for most of the video to be done unprocessed and indeed it sounds much better during that part of the video.

@DeosPraetorian

2 жыл бұрын

isnt that like 3 times the price

@RetroBreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeosPraetorian yeah

that room is insane

great intro man

What's that mount on your EV mic? Looks cool. And did it come with the pop filter?

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

The shock mount is just the first-party EV 309A. The pop filter is the Brodcast Supply World BSW-REPOP

@Meatwad650

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox At 9:58 it doesn't look like the 309A - I've got it and those wide bands look totally different.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, those are the Better Bands! www.better-bands.com/

The mic is good but he price is a bit high.. Thanks for the great breakdown!!

Oh geez, that's honestly more than twice the price of what i expected from looks, build and its audio tbh.

@NovaDoll

2 жыл бұрын

you thought it was going to be $100? Other mics it’s close to are 179. So I thought it would be 199… not 279…

@noname-gp6hk

2 жыл бұрын

@@NovaDoll yeah but it sounds like somebody is sitting there cranking a compressor knob lock to lock constantly. This thing sounds awful.

Thanks Doc!

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Prof*

Sm7b and Electro Voice RE20 sound better. Can I add a de-clicker somehow into the chain? If not it's not as useful :/

how would this mic work with VoiceMeeter?

considering the mic has all the hardware in it, thus the PC dosnt have to do stuff, is amazing.. for $280 its great.. its in the sweet spot, you can get a SM7B for way more or an elgato Wave1 for far less..

@DKTD23

2 жыл бұрын

People are forgetting that this mic has basically the DragonFly Red DAC/AMP built into it. Those are $100 easy. It's super impressive, and a very practical/smart thing to incorporate. Basically a full solution for audiophile headphones with direct monitoring.

Man the audio is so hardly capped, omg

"Streaming in 900p is pointless!" LUL loved that bit 😂

Is it me or did Harris Heller Video of the BEACON sound better despite his office not being done yet so its echos like hell, maybe your processed the audio a bit too much.

The intro was amazing. Didn't get any reference but very stylish. 😆

do you plug it i nto any type of microphone interphase ??? just plug and used ?

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

It’s usb only as I made very clear

That Vegeta tho...

sounds nice with processing, and the software app look nice.

i am running mv7+UMC204HD using XLR. reason is i have to monitor myself when i talk and the headphone amp in the behringer is way nicer. also the delay is none exist compare to using like voicemeteer toggle A1 kinda thing. I wonder compare to voicemeteer, this Beacn software monitoring how much delay it has. if it can almost match my hardware monitor solution, then i am sold. since i have way nicer head dac/amp i wish to use, and I dont want to limit myself to the interface by just monitoring needs.

I had high hopes for this mic but just sounds a bit meh. I’d really like to see db level meters for the software and mix create too. I did ask beacn about it and they said windows sound isn’t accurate so that’s why they didn’t add it.

man you did the mv7 dirty i think it was too far away! Great review though!

Sounds like the audio's be played through a rotary speaker and giving me a headache.

I love it so girthy

Sounds pretty thin

Does the mic monitor has a noise gate like the goxlr? If not, that would be a deal breaker, so really keen to know.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

if you turn the noise suppression/expander on, that's what you hear yeah

@OfficialEthern1ty

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVoxthanks!

The SM7B remains the undisputed champion to my ears.

What's up with the sound? Did you crank the compression to 11?

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. 4:1 as I always do

@toastbrot97

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox mhh.. weird. 4:1 seems fine, but it does sound quite heavily compressed for some reason.

Wait do u just connect the usb cable to ur pc and then it works? Im having problems connecting it

@EposVox

Жыл бұрын

Yes

0:55 Nice plosives. I was excited about all the hype and now I am not and the price is just too high for what it is.

Oof...thought you sounded clear in this video...but also thin. Not feeling your typical 100-150hz. I even checked my sub by cranking it (it only handles 80hz and down but figured what they heck, something ain't right) Software looks great. Would love to see a suite like that for the GoXLR. Rode, EV, Earthworks, and Elgato all sounded better to me.

@ProdLucio

2 жыл бұрын

So extra lmao

@TAGSlays

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProdLucio ??

I would love a side by side audio comparison against the Elgato Wave 3

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Then you’re watching the right video lol

@Ghxzt2161

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox ha yeah sometimes I comment before finishing the video I feel like the Wave 3 has much clearer sound quality and about half the price

Great features and all... and I can appreciate that; But I'm just not a fan of how that mic sounds, personally. It just isn't pleasant to listen to. Of course everyone has different preferences and all; But it's definitely great to see innovation in the space.

need the audio from 4:29

what boom arm can i use for this mic

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Any arm lol

The sound in this video feels like a mess on my TV, cannot put it why.

Seems like (from looking at the shots of the software) this has only two output mixes, just like wave link software? When is one of these devs going to add a third output mix for those of us who stream with discord chat? We need to send voice and sfx to discord without sending game audio to discord!

@KickedTripodYT

2 жыл бұрын

There are 3 output Mixes - one additional for a Voice Chat Mic. You have control over SFX in the routing table.

@jntracksgaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@KickedTripodYT Ah I see now. It's in the routing table but it's not a proper separate mix... Yeah, that seems like it pretty well solves it, though. Can't imagine wanting really different levels on that. Nice.

ElectroVoice RE20 still sounds best to my ears.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

RE20 is bae

@DKTD23

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox it is, but man I wish it had a more sleek shockmount, lol

This sound about as good as the Jabra headset I've been using. There's NO dynamic range. That's shite.

going to be honest here: I hate how it sounds throughout this video. It's wobbling in and out on his voice and if no one can hear that then I guess it's a perfect mic for you but if I had to hear a streamer talking on this mic I would go to another stream... that wobble is so annoying

ironically the mic sounds very compressed (considering all the 32 bit talk). Not liking the sound at all. (Listening on Focal Elegia headphones...)

To my ears it sounds extremely bassy, and the voice... is somehow pushed into the background, lacks presence and clarity. And I hear a weird ringing sometimes at a very high frequency, is it maybe the exciter being too much?... The raw output sounded much more natural, still a bit too boomy for my taste.

I'm disappointed it doesn't work on Mac. I hope they add support in the future. If they do, this will definitely be my next mic.

"Bacon Mac Ranch". LOL.

Do I regret my shure mv7 🤔 maybe but I did get it for 170 and 279 seems a bit to expensive

@DKTD23

2 жыл бұрын

this mic basically has a built in DAC/Amp that would sell for at least $100 on its own. Dragonfly Red. Think of it as a complete solution.

@moises1228

2 жыл бұрын

@@DKTD23 yea but their a new company and new company's tend to make a hell of a lot of mistakes while shure has made Hella good mics for a long time and they have a really good reputation

@moises1228

2 жыл бұрын

@@DKTD23 to me reliability company is much superior than hardware promises are

I think this microphone sounds "muffle" and the compressor or the anti clip makes this video on hifi speakers "unlistenable" - can't tell it in words (with my spare english) but something "clippy" and not very clear. Sounds like old taperecorders and when it is getting too loud the volume drops and that is everytime your voice gets spikes and peaks and the compensation of the mic works against you

@noname-gp6hk

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's bordering on unlistenable. I'm not even talking about EQ, the volume of the voice seems like it's wobbling up and down like crazy like the compressor is broken or something.

What about fifine? I was hoping a comparison with the best fifine mic in the market XD

@DKTD23

2 жыл бұрын

K658 is great for under $100 when it's on sale around 80.

@walterferreira5756

2 жыл бұрын

@@DKTD23 I live in Brazil, so its 5x more

Definitely incredible features I am blowing away but I think the price is too high.

can u use a go xlr with it?

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

I mean you can use a GoXLR but you can’t connect the mic to it. It’s a usb mic, not an xlr mic lol

@HamDerHarSX50

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox so basically its useless to buy an goxlr to it

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

This looks like such a great microphone!!!!

Why processed Beacn sounds worse than raw one? That’s kinda weird to listen, because it should sound better.. The sound is very muddy, as if the middle and upper frequencies are very cluttered. And on the video itself the sound is better, as if it was made on purpose to anti-advertise

"Specswise, this mic is awesome!" "32 bit float is amazing" Yeah, but the actual results are awful :-O 36 bit float of perfectly recorded, clipping-free crap.

Maybe just me but the processed sound sounds pretty terrible, very muffled and sorta overwhelming

In the comparison part, it literally sounds the second worst. Just above MV7.

$279 way too much for me ! and the country i live in even if it becomes available there will mostly likely be a 25% premium added on as with most imported tech.

Its thin, mate

This video was fuckin awesome! If it's the new style, it's great 👍

Stick with your Earthworks Icon Pro.

So much tech under the hood for a tragic end ... sounds terrible and the processing doesn't look to help.

*reaches 0:23 ... "Wait wtf....what? *Taps back and replays three times "Yes...more...Yes. This is the joy brotha was talking about". Now I can't wait for the Intel AMD showdown between Cell and Gohan or Vegeta and Goku! It will give Classic Funimation tension ambient music in the stare down contest of Filler history! We are ready for the nostalgia! All this and I only saw 30 seconds. *Slow claps 🖖🏼👌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

I am by no means an expert but it genuinely sounds terrible and completely tinny and scooped and your voice sounds like its pulsing in and out.

Love EposVox but this speed run thing with “mic review any-% with speedy music” isn’t making it easy to take in the information. Better for the algorithm I suppose.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Speed run? Lolwut? The video is 20 minutes long…

@UnrealDreamer

2 жыл бұрын

..bro there was like no music in the majority of the actual testing What do you mean?!

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

That too!

@Staffaffan

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox I’m sorry to complain man, really not my thing normally. I think it’s that I came here from the Earthworks Icon pro video, and the pacing was dramatically different. I love your content and wouldn’t be able to use OBS even close to the level I am now, so huge thanks for that. Never thought about the pacing in a vid could be influenced by the previous vid watched.

People are gushing on this but I can't see how it's better than the Presonus Revelator Microphone, how bout a shoot out?

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

The mixing software for the Revelator mic is not great at all

Bruh!!!! That opening!!!

Having EQ on it is huge. It's so surprising that so many other options, OBS and whatever else don't give you that capability.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Erm, OBS has EQ filters built in and supports VST2.x filters too

@ThisIsTechToday

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox I'm still confusing SLOBS with normal OBS. Oy

Is it Bluetooth good battery can it do old radio sound very good sound what I mean is a need a cheap very good mic blue tooth with type c charge good battery and can do pre made old radio voice need mic for alustor cosplay u can look up alustor hazbin hotel to see what I mean I am looking for recommendations ok

@EposVox

Ай бұрын

It’s not bluetooth

yuus

I streamed once in the past year with my cell phone. Why am I watching this?

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Because it's fun!

@MobileDecay

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox I love audio equipment. 😁

i'd buy this for 100-120. but for 279 heck no

@iTz_Codes

2 жыл бұрын

Youre crazy for thinking they'd sell this for sub $150 lol with what the mic comes with specially the built in processor in the mic and the software it also goes with is great. With other Mics that are XLRs you need another device for it to work. Heck my USB AT2020 I bought 7 years ago was $180 lol

@noname-gp6hk

2 жыл бұрын

@@iTz_Codes yeah but it sounds awful. The bells and whistles don't matter when the result is this bad. I wouldn't buy it for $100.

@gLOWbalx

Жыл бұрын

@@noname-gp6hk Are you deaf?

USB-Crap with multipliers 2/3/3.1/4... 4 2x2, so it's a lot of crap, no wonder why some ppl want to stay with serial

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine there’s anyone wanting to stay with serial for anything but industrial applications or retro PC usage but sure

:)

Sounds...horrible

@driftboard

2 жыл бұрын

fr

3 rings for the oven kings

@EposVox

Жыл бұрын

I say ELven pretty clearly

am i tripping or does this mic sound really bad ?? sounds very very low.

Like and sub based on the intro. Awesome.

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks!

Your audio does not sound good, in my humble opinion. When the forwardness and fullness of your voice should be prominent, it is fading backward. I don't know if this is the mic's fault or the way you set it up in software. But this is not acceptable to me. Maybe it is the limiting setting in software or maybe you are just not close enough to the mic for it to pick up the strength of signal it needs. But this sounds way too thin a lot of the time. Start over again because I simply would not listen to a broadcast that sounds this narrow, artificial and badly manipulated. Truly, this is my honest and best analysis of what you sound like with this mic and setup. 🤷‍♂️

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

“Start over again” I did not make the mic lol

@ToddSauve

2 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox I realize that! 🙄 My point is that the mic does not sound good. That is obviously _not_ your fault. But I don't know if you can fix it to one extent or another with equalization or other software settings. Hopefully you can. Clearly you are a competent person when it comes to setting things up. I'm just hoping you can squeeze better sound out of it.

You get a like and comment before that into is even over!

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

:)

The microphone audio used in this video sounds just awful. Not sue if it is the microphone itself or the post-processing, but it hurts my ears (listened to through a very good audio system)

That intro was godlike