It’s just a tilted bad player, Regular hand, aces get cracked all the time , nothing to discuss here , move on

@robyee3325

3 ай бұрын

Aces gets cracked by kings not 8 high trips wtf? And who 3 bets 86 instead of over call?

@switters8679

3 ай бұрын

@@robyee3325 Aggressive players, balanced players, a ton of people actually. It is not abnormal to 3bet suited connectors and 1 gappers. This is how big pairs get cracked, more often than KK v AA when there is a call pre. KK v AA is more likely to get it all in pre. Your commentary suggests you are inexperienced and / or not very studied, which shouldn't be taken as an insult because this does not necessarily mean you are a losing player. Just that you play against worse people, and this is a very very very very normal play from Luda who literally loses money by being too aggressive. Sometimes the psycho aggro fish hits a hand and you have to pay it off because 70% of the time he is full of shit, but once in a while he is going to have an 8 here.

@tq6892

3 ай бұрын

@@robyee3325lol this happens a lot if you play a lot of live poker in loose games you see this shit regular

@brickmn808

3 ай бұрын

@@robyee3325 You do realize that 6-8s has more equity against AA than KK? Saying AA only gets cracked by KK is ridiculous.

@TheScapegoat420

3 ай бұрын

HCL just wants a soap opera for the views. It works.

I love how he tried to use Nik Airball calling with 4s as evidence he'd been previously cheated. That's a premium hand as far as Airball's concerned 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Brian-xp3uy

3 ай бұрын

Airballz flops a set on him and that's evidence of cheating? 1/8 chance = cheating? If so, I've been cheated for years 12.5% of the time including all the trips players flopped on me. I quit. Lol

@mattkock

3 ай бұрын

Dude knows very little about cash games and even less about Luda.

@donmacquarrie9161

3 ай бұрын

🤣😂

@markb8361

3 ай бұрын

that's a savage comment re: Airball:)

@alistairwood1800

3 ай бұрын

Given he also said it was just after he topped up, being deeper is more reason you would call with 44.

As soon as there are multiple callers, I expect my Aces to get cracked.

@AlexDuvall

3 ай бұрын

Lol

@bohuai4021

3 ай бұрын

Heads up post flop

@joeashbubemma

3 ай бұрын

He did isolate, but he's used to people backing down to his bullying tactics at the lower stakes where he usually plays. Sitting behind $100K is posing for the cameras, he doesn't put that kind of scrip at risk on a regular basis. If you don't want a call, you don't just 3x a back raise, especially with AA, and certainly not at this game with PRO's/lunatics.

@bohuai4021

3 ай бұрын

what's wrong with 3x raise at 4 bet in position? It's already very large.@@joeashbubemma

@skelthouser2730

3 ай бұрын

What multiple callers?

I'm not crazy about their tables but that's just straight-up sore loser melt down.

@burkhartlaw1

3 ай бұрын

There’s clearly no cheating but it does go to show the well-deserves terrible reputation of the stream.

@williv

3 ай бұрын

He's a doctor that has people's lives in his hand. He's an unstable nutjob.

This fish wants to talk about when his AA got crack but doesn’t want to talk when Luda called with J 5 against his KK, and He won that hand.

@billrodweller9432

Ай бұрын

But how much did he win in? That hand played straight up. Did GT rays blue to call?See a flap and then fold we need more contacts

Watching somebody melt down like this is more sad than anything. If you can't afford to lose the money, DON'T Play!

@aidananimation123

2 ай бұрын

@@sgtthiccif you watched a player lose 100k in front of you are u gonna get mad at him or smile ? It’s awkward when a player is on tilt like that and u feel bad

@meepk633

Ай бұрын

@@sgtthicc Oh jeeze. Your poor family. I bet you're very abusive.

@Crash33333a

Ай бұрын

I avoid any type of gambling unless I have a certain amount to lose and then I only bet that amount. All other cash is locked away from my control. This is a simple case of sore butt loser.

It hurts to get aces busted by a loose play. There is no denying that. But to be a sore looser is not acceptable. Don't invite him back.

@chefmikeankh6434

3 ай бұрын

It’s not uncommon to see loose aggressive players play 8/6 suited. Then he flopped trips. Very understandable to keep betting at this point. If he bricked on the flop and GT raised him and he called or raised, then maybe that would be suspicious. I say maybe because some ppl will not let a hand go and go for a bluff. It just depends on the player

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

Lots of casinos have badbeat jackpots and they got cracked regularly, which is why there are so many people showing up for those promotions. Losing one pair is pretty far down on the totem of hands.

@allaboutroofing2

2 ай бұрын

*loser

@cwstewartjr1973

2 ай бұрын

Calling a 19k raise with 86suited preflop when its a third of your stack isn't playing loose. Its calling when you know the flop. If you don't think a dealer can set that up, then you don't know what you are talking about.

@meepk633

Ай бұрын

@@cwstewartjr1973 uh oh. Sad lad just lost some money online. Now he knows all about The Conspiracy.

GT is completely out of line making baseless accusations with no evidence.

@robyee3325

3 ай бұрын

HUSTLER CASINO IS CHEATING

@alexdivano6407

3 ай бұрын

Believe me its way too obvious now u guys are human there no way u guys not noticing something bout hustler casino.. People will just simply say that hes a fish, he just tilted etc. but bro if u go to any casino poker room if u play 5-10 / 10-25 or higher stakes you would nver see a person calling 4 betting AA and someones gon call you 8 6 suited?! Cmon look you guys knw that luda and ryan have history and they used to be roommates and look how luda is smiling/smirking like hes knws exactly whats happening

@hockeyislife67

3 ай бұрын

There are a lot of other factors to the call. 1. The 4 bet is tad small (3.5 - 4.5x would be a better size) and he gave luda a nice price 2. Luda's stack to pot ratio is very good to play the hand post flop if he misses or catches a draw of some sorts, makes playing hands like AK, AQ (on a no pair flop) or pocket pairs to a single over very complex for GT cause even though the C-bet is expected like 80%+ after the 4 bet against the back raiser- a c-bet into luda jammin makes him almost committed to calling on a lot of flops, example if he had qq or jj and c-bet this flop for what he did and luda jams for 32k more its such an insanely tough spot getting 4-1 on the call. Or say for example the flop was instead k97. 3. It is a TV game and when the decision is close the players lean towards calling cause they want to get invited back. 4. The stand up game was on and GT was 1 of 2 people left, therefore his range is just always bigger than it normally would be. Knowing GT has AA yes its a bad call but if you give GT a bit more of a range its not that bad. Still probably is slightly negative EV but considering luda probably thinks he has an edge over GT it might be pretty damn close.@@alexdivano6407

@michaelss1294

3 ай бұрын

Agree

@predadoora

2 ай бұрын

@@alexdivano6407he literally Does this sht all the time and bluffs, and guess what… most of the time he loses. That’s the statistics of a loose aggressive play lmao

Luda was ok with being checked because the masseuse was the one wearing the device.

@kurt6447

3 ай бұрын

😂

@AlexDuvall

3 ай бұрын

LOL

@nbagreatest7279

3 ай бұрын

Hmmm 🧐🧐 I no that means something........

@emphatically

3 ай бұрын

Top tier comment

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

leveling

He thinks he's the only guy on earth that got his aces cracked

@SPQR_14

12 күн бұрын

That wasn't his point. Nobody calls a third of their stack off with 86 in a 4bet pot. Not even fish in a 5 cent game are that dumb.

He called *BEFORE THE FLOP* no "beeping thing" can help you. If there was a "beeping thing" it woulda warned that *YOU HAD AA*

@SPQR_14

12 күн бұрын

The claim is that they knew the flop somehow, obviously...

Funny at first, then wait... he's really serious. Are you kidding me. Anyone beating you is cheating? Luda took it much better than I would.

@burkhartlaw1

3 ай бұрын

I did notice he never offered to give the money back.

@leonardletoto

3 ай бұрын

​@burkhartlaw1 - As well he shouldn't have. He should've asked him to step outside.

@KickStaff

3 ай бұрын

i actually feel this way too, anyone who beats me at anything is a cheat if i was the guy with AA i would have demanded my full money back

@gurumack

3 ай бұрын

Lmao right? I'm looking to fight as soon as there's a smidgen of disrespect

@colintimp1372

3 ай бұрын

He's lucky it was Luda and not someone like Jeff Lisandro; who'd take his head off.

My homie GT just got over tilted. Nothing to investigate. GT will apologize in a week when he has had some warm chicken curry 🍛

@leonardletoto

3 ай бұрын

Your homie is a crybaby.

@polycadence8482

3 ай бұрын

Yr homie is a chuti... lol But you're my hero.

@tonyboy92843

3 ай бұрын

lol, did u say curry? U called yourself a homie and you make a racist remark...not cool

@DougieBarclay

3 ай бұрын

​@tonyboy92843 they're both Indian bro, Airball gets a pass. Much like me when I make indian jokes, my wife is Indian so I get a pass😂

@dank2476

3 ай бұрын

Would you play Mariano heads up?

He should be grateful that Chris found it funny…there are players at this game who would politely ask him to stand up and go outside if they have their intergrity questioned.

@dnx112

3 ай бұрын

I'm from the D and there is a lot of these foreign cryazzes like gt. Fkem

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

thats what I was thinking. Those are serious allegations, at a table during play with the player still at the table. He probably should have called floor on GT for being out of line, acting like a dumbass and even the players next to him were telling him to calm down. When you cant beat the game, go somewhere else, dont cry at the table.

Luda didnt call 19k, he called 13k in a pot that was already 27k, you can question his 3bet but it looks pretty standard for a loose player..

@sylvainguinepain5624

3 ай бұрын

No, it was terrible. After calling the last preflop bet he had 30% of this stack already in the pot meaning that he crossed the commitment threshold already. Meaning that if he catches any part of the flop (any pair, any draw), he is basically committed. Doing that with 8 high is just absolutely terrible.

@jacktse466

3 ай бұрын

@@sylvainguinepain5624 he might be terrible but thats how he played, keep sitting in your 1-2 table wand wait for ur aces and kings

@brucet.3239

3 ай бұрын

@@jacktse466 Back raising 86s, and then calling off a third of your stack to a massive 4 bet, leaving an SPR post flop of only about 1.2 is completely and utterly insane and ridiculous. My local 2/5 game has way tougher and more balanced players than those idiots on HCL.

@MatthewEldridge-jy6ip

3 ай бұрын

@@brucet.3239They don’t care. This isn’t a poker game it’s a TV show. These guys have millions they don’t care at all about the “GTO Move”

@rongzhao75

3 ай бұрын

It's how he plays! And stop saying how big the bet is. Luda plays regularly with bigger stacks and call off raises of bigger amount with mediocre hands. He just happened to be playing a smaller game and are not sitting with quarter mil.

Obviously GT is upset, but in relation to the hand and bet sizes Ludas play there is pretty typical of the way I've always seen him play. Sure most people may not call off that much money preflop with that hand, BUT Luda has done stuff like many times before and got lucky or unlucky, It's just Poker and the hand could have gone either way.

@mohammedradwan5721

3 ай бұрын

I can understand him being upset. I think he felt targeted and this type of situation happens to him often enough to be annoying at hcl. Either way losing sucks and Luda calling 18K pre flop with 8/6 is just dumb but it’s his money and he can gamble however he wants.

GTs 4 betting range is AA,KK and Luda knows it so in those situations against players like that you may play a hand that way knowing if you hit the flop your stacking them every time !

@AlexDuvall

3 ай бұрын

Why did Luda act so surprised when GT turned over AA?

@ryceryder85

3 ай бұрын

Stand up game was in effect so GT’s range is a bit wider. He could have medium pocket pair, AJs+

@kevingao7974

3 ай бұрын

probaby to make the fish feel better@@AlexDuvall

@MF_Zurg

3 ай бұрын

Calling 30% of your stack to be a 20% dog against any over-pair?

@kevingao7974

3 ай бұрын

or maybe he expected AA to continue on the turn / snap him off on the river

The fact that he thinks they can miraculously put 88 in the flip is nuts

@quokka_11

2 ай бұрын

There are many card mechanics who are capable of that, no problem at all.

@cwstewartjr1973

2 ай бұрын

You have no clue as to what you are talking about if you believe a dealer can't do that

OMG Vertucci talking is the only thing more painful than the cheating accusations.

@WhiteNinjaEurope

3 ай бұрын

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

so the accusation is that Chris knows exactly what the runout will be? that's more than what Postle is accused of.

@TheHorny4boost

3 ай бұрын

Postle??? You mean GOD!!!!

@KickStaff

3 ай бұрын

or that the casino is purposely rigging card distribution for set up hands and letting the inside player know. Its VERY hard to coordinate that but not impossible. Chris gets a "buzz" on his body and knows ts time to get aggressive and the hand is set up for him to scoop a big pot off a sucker they picked. GT feels like this keeps happening to him and he's been targeted in big pots that are unnatural

@MissingWilson

3 ай бұрын

The amount of set up hands are crazy. Take note of the hands pre and imagine they all make it to the flop. Shuffler is rigged for action to make for better tv.

@terriblebhop

3 ай бұрын

@@MissingWilsonwith the ranges some of these players play on this steam you are gonna see a lot of crazy hands. The winners are the ones who get lucky in those big hands and know when to fold when they are beat. This is why garret was doing so well . He always seemed to run hot but he was good at finding the fold in big spots

@MissingWilson

3 ай бұрын

@@terriblebhop AA vs 88 vs 77 vs 910s on Ks8h7s is just standard ?

GT does not realize how much luck is involved when playing poker. Bad players win too.

That’s his last time playing on Hcl lol

@AlexDuvall

3 ай бұрын

Seems likely

@Nreekkk93

3 ай бұрын

Probably won’t ever be invited back.😂

@yummytummy88

3 ай бұрын

GT needs to watch all Luda play the last few years and then he will realize this is his typical playing method. GT got money but does not have the experience to learn to mock his top pairs. All amateur players learns these lesson over time. I just believe GT is releasing his steam. Best he takes a walk when he got stacked instead of thinking like Garrett. No body like a sore loser and it makes them look bad.

I think a bit of what goes through Ludas mind is that with all the callers in the hand being weighted towards having higher cards a lot of his outs are going to be more live. So instead of 21.7 percent equity vs aces he might have more equity. Plus, when he calls off one pair he may beat out ak a small percentage of the time. Probably still bad but piping that high has benefits when it comes to getting paid in other hands.

@frederickmccabe5675

3 ай бұрын

Luda is okay getting involved here because he knows hes getting paid off if they have something strong and he's a gambler. He's calling here hoping someone has aces or kings. It's the whole point of deep stacked NL.

When you get 3-bet with Aces and You don’t go all in, you deserve to get your AA cracked. 😂 this 🐠 went from winning $9K to losing $68K in that hand. 😅

Whether this particular hand was rigged or not, you have to be a fool to play on that stream and not think no one is trying to cheat you. There is basically a cheating scandal or accusation in or around this game every couple of months. If anything, it proves this stream is no longer worth watching. Just a bunch of bad players making bad plays in the name of fame or content or whatever. I really miss the Garrett days.

Casual poker players might not understand this but... regs will call 3 and 4 bets lighter because they know your range is very tight and they think they can navigate post flop better. Also, when you hit, you know the casual player is almost never folding the over pair. I don't think this hand looks too suspicious.

@djwalker6608

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. My local game plays this exact way every week. Some people call off 2/3 of their stack and fold when they miss and then just add on and try again lol. It was with high probability that GT had AA AK or QQ so Luda took a flop hoping to hit the flop he did and if not he would have just folded lol. Simple in my mind. But what do I know. Oh and if GT really was told that stuff WHY WOULD HE EVER GO PLAY THERE LOL

Thanks for stitching these all together!

It's kind of strange how these people, both dealers, producers and players.... who used to run the high-stakes-streams at "live@thebike", who got taken down because the police got involved... Seem to get themselves into this kind of sticky situation over and over again now that they have re-opened the enterprise at Hustler.

@mouzz

3 ай бұрын

they were playng stakes 10x lower a year before and all of a sudden, not to mention calling a third of his stack with 86 ... also meanwhile magic: got to go

@AlexDuvall

3 ай бұрын

interesting

@steve007lax

3 ай бұрын

​@@mouzzhe only called 13k with a 60k stack. He already put in 6k and decided to defend. That's 23% of his stack. We know how much of a gambler Luda is, so why is there even an allegation of cheating?

@immortalserito774

3 ай бұрын

​@@AlexDuvallhave you seen GMan's tweets re: Feldman and Luda and the situationat LATB. Take a good look. Even more interesting. Feldman then responds with a bunch of shit that had nothing to do with Garrett's accusation to deflect attention.

@dalekerr5091

3 ай бұрын

@@mouzz Is Magic the blonde female dealer that dealt that hand? Or maybe you just weren't paying attention.

Garret did get cheated 100. Right after the scandal Robbie was folding mid raises with KK and playing way different and now she stopped playing because she lost so much since she can’t cheat no more lol

To the players that bet according to the rules of poker and get upset when their opponent doesn't and beats them, "If the rule you followed brought you to this of what use was the rule?" ~Anton Chiguhr

He said to search him where the sun doesn't shine and Chris agreed to it.

@gt2745

2 ай бұрын

Luda has had Ryan Feldman search him there many times. 👀

Do they not scan them on the way in and out of the room like at the Lodge?

“You’re not picked for that treatment” LMAO

If my Aces DON'T get cracked by some BS I think there's something wrong.

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

you must have been morning playing 2-4 at the Flamingo

@johnhays2915

2 ай бұрын

@@mpup54 I guess so...okay gets to me pocket rockets Vince Van Patten you can start your BS alright 200 buyin 1/3 lemme pump this up to 20 bucks okay 3 callers no surprise there j62 rainbow alright perfect flop 80 in the pot lemme bet about 50 get ready for this turn jam hope they got AJ....okay 2 callers odd since the flop was complete garbage but okay let's see turns a 3 well if one of these morons flopped a set or hit some retarded 2 pair like they always do congrats but 130 left im all in fold good snap call and shown 45off with guy yelling NUTSSS!!! so drawing dead just another typical pocket aces hand for me wondering why I still play this game...I'm still waiting to WIN a pot w aces bigger than the blinds meanwhile this idiots just "shocked". 🤣

It just seems like he was mad and talking out of his ass. Like if he truly believes he was just cheated, why not call the floor/actually demand the dude is searched? Why not immediately sit out? If you truly believe you're being cheated, isn't it completely insane to keep playing while bitching & moaning about getting cheated? The only logical explanation to me is that he's the kind of person to just say mean, hateful, hurtful things when he's upset because he's upset and nothing else matters other than his feelings.

@slickm0uth

Ай бұрын

Exactly.

NL Holdem is a scam itself😢

The Stand Up game had a massive part to play in this😂. He just thought he was light😅 and if Airball called with pocket 4's why not everybody's as with low pockets hoping to hit a set and clean up 😂😂😂

It really surprises me how many people in the comment section think this is a normal call because it´s a good hand to crack aces with. It´s a good hand to crack aces if you hit the right flop as a speculative hand in position if you see the flop cheaply and it´s a bit hidden supposedly. The point is that he put a third of his stack in the middle calling to see a flop. the chances of flopping trips are 1.74%, the chances of flopping a straight with 86 is under 1% and the chances of flopping a flush is 1%. So a third of his stack for a less than 4% chance of hitting a really good flop or getting into a situation where you have 33% to 50% equity if you hit a good draw but you know you have 0 fold equity. 33% of your stack when the opponent tells you the strenght of his hand. And people here are just like: ha , normal play, nothing to see here, 86s is really good against aces, bla bla. STFU, that´s not a wining poker players call, LAG or not. Ridiculous. Nothing completely unheard of but if you sit there and you get laughed in your face when someone get´s really lucky after playing shitty and that guy gets lightly rubbed by a masseuse at the same time acting like he´s a god. Fucking creepy. What Alex said, if you see people make plays like that you don´t expect to see them on a lifelong winner list, it´s bloody ridiculous. Again, it´s a good hand against aces if you are in position, got to see the flop cheaply, can outplay your opponent on later streets and a lot of other criteria. Not just fuck it, all in like Mike Postle, haha trips, i´m the greatest. If he´s a drunk rich kid, by all means, but this is supposedly a winning cashgame player and he grins in everybodys face like he knows something. But you´re not suspicious a little bit, jesus.

Chris has burned stacks before, he is the worst cheater in history.

Of course GT is mad. When you have AA you 100% win, those are the odds. It's not like it is 80/20 or anything. 😂

@Brian-xp3uy

3 ай бұрын

And it is not possible to flop trips or a set without witchcraft. 😂

@oponamikwe5011

3 ай бұрын

@@Brian-xp3uy brah. basics. AA is not the holy grail

Should jam pre save urself the accusations

@LudasCVSbag

3 ай бұрын

He did 4bet

@ryceryder85

3 ай бұрын

Not 4bet jam

@Stardustbasically

3 ай бұрын

He 3 bet not 4

@benjaminlim7494

3 ай бұрын

@@Stardustbasically nah luda 3 bet then gt 4 bet

@Stardustbasically

3 ай бұрын

@@benjaminlim7494 6k to 19k is 3x bet sir .. your math is off

"Didn't think you had Aces" Lol! He wrote it on the table & handed it to you

imagine sitting there telling poor j boggs that its rigged because he got his aa cracked🤣🤣 he gets that done 3 times a night!

people used to get shot accusing people of cheating. BS suited one gapper I see this happen. Not j4 off not even close

@kingofdaslumz

2 ай бұрын

I think it's the way the action went that has him suspicious. Luda limps, GT puts in a big raise, Luda then back raises to 6k, GT goes 19k and Luda calls. With 86 suited. It is weird action but I don't really see cheating. I see an experienced player trying to push around a fish, had him on a range and then hit a flop. Is it a little fishy? I guess but man I've seen some weird stuff at tables lol. I would hope a casino would make sure the integrity is kept at all times during these games

I think one thing ppl looking at this event need to understand is that GT is a very tight player. The regulars on the stream also recognize and have known for a while now that he's always been a tight player. So GT is very much aware of how his playstyle is perceived (and in fact, you can see past streams where people joke about putting in money vs. him because he always shows the nuts or something close to it). So when you factor this perception into the equation, where Luda backraises him, and then flops trips against his AA, *and* he's already tilting once he arrived, you can maybe start to understand a little more why he might think the way he was.

Since there have been an up tick in news of dealers cheating in the poker world. There should be one camera zoomed in on the deck that the dealers are shuffling during games. Just so everyone can see it being shuffled correctly.

Can be take a minute to address the real issue?! Someone give the cameraman a trophy!!! The smoothness of that doom zoom is world class! You’re my hero cameraman!!! 😂

Luda gambled a small amount compared to opponents bankroll. He had four potential outcomes that would create a huge payout since his opponent most likely had AA or KK. Luda was looking for two pair, trips, flush, or a straight (very low chance for a boat). He hit one of them. GT failed to see that since he was fixated on his strong hand. The other issue that played into the situation is Luda's image of being a huge bluffer. Most people love to crush Luda but it can backfire like we witnessed here.

that's why you ALWAYS fold AA .

Actually, all this happens at private games all the time. Fish loses ( bad beat) to a reg and then he goes crazy. Basically, the fish know they can say whatever they want to a reg cos their business is essential to the game! 💯

looks standard to me

I've been watching Luda play for awhile. He's loose aggressive player. He's not cheating for sure.

Been on both sides of this myself, never questioned my opponents integrity, much less the integrity of the establishment. Dealers have no way of knowing and shouldn't be subject to verbal abuse. Live by the Ace die by the Ace.

If it was Mike Postle I would have believed it, but it’s Luda!

That's not a cheating allegation, it's just a tilted player who lost.

@slowfuse

3 ай бұрын

I definitely know the feeling, I can empathise

@slowery43

2 ай бұрын

no one cares, this is not about you@@slowfuse

Nothing strange about the hand. Just luck.

You all are crazy if you don’t think the fact that Luda and Ryan are “roommates “ and he wins a lot of sus hands is a coincidence? The one guy who can see everyone’s hole cards? Good luck with that. You go play then and give him your money. Bad look all around

Of course his win rate goes up. Garret isn’t in the game!!!

Once the lady obv cheated with her J high hand and they still denied it . They lost all credibility.

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

She is an airhead, regardless of what she did at the table. She doesnt even belong in a game with stakes that high because she hasnt earned those chops. The show is better without such an obvious, weak player.

This happens to me twice a day on pokerstars.

@slowery43

2 ай бұрын

and no one cares in the least... this is not about you

Crying about someone calling and hitting, if he would have won the hand with an ace on the end he wouldn't have said anything about him calling his raise. Luda should kick his ass for calling him a cheater like wild west days

This is a repercussion of not taking accountability for the J4 hand situation and sweeping it under the rug. HCL covered it up to save their buts and this is what happens.

Nick Vertucci is apparently Ben Shapiro's slower brother.😂

That’s a serious accusation and Luda took it very well. * and Aren’t suited connectors the best hands you can have to crack A’s?! if you watch Luda, you know he likes to gamble. I just googled, 87s has over 20% equity against AA. I know he had 86s but still. He’s crying like a baby over a legit gamble from Luda.

@concernedcitizen8231

2 ай бұрын

I think 67 suited is the best hand against AA.

I lost a total of 5k this week, multiple times with AA vs other pairs that immediately flopped sets. Twice in the same session against the same opponent, after I moved seats too. Variance is real….this isn’t cheating.

1st rule on poker: don't play with money you can't afford to lose

Luda has been caught cheating in SEVERAL SIDE GAMES. THIS GUY IS A TOTAL POS

Gt a recreational player at best hilarious

He back raises with 8 High because he knows what's coming on the flop. Then he calls Triple size of his bet and then he milks the pocket aces for his entire stack. Yeah that's not a rigged hand at all. GT sniffed out a set up. Good on him for leaving the game.

@michaelhuene561

3 ай бұрын

And HCL knew to deal GT AA also? What size is your tinfoil hat?

@terriblebhop

3 ай бұрын

If you play enough poker you’ve seen this same type of hand play out almost weekly.

@michaelblankenau6598

3 ай бұрын

Why don’t you present the evidence you have instead of making unfounded claims

@666psymaniac

3 ай бұрын

Wtf 😂

Yeah the guy knew what was going to be flopped. Shut up dude. I would've kicked him off the cast.

The lady behind him should be removed She’s giving signals

Luda is good at poker. He knew he had aa KK. And the price was right to crack a hand like that with low sooted connectors. Shame on gt for disrespecting the integrity of the game

@robyee3325

3 ай бұрын

The price was not right. He even 3bet instead of over call which makes no sense for 86s

@pIanEt_marz

3 ай бұрын

The problem is, imo, that there are 5 hands GT can have JJ QQ KK AA AK. After the turn 40% of those hands still beat Chris lucky flop. QQ probably gets ran after the river shove so he can only beat AA or AK. The other 2 hands beat him. I don't think he cheated but just throwing this out there

@stevenwalker9013

3 ай бұрын

He says after the hand, I didn’t think you had AA, meaning he didn’t think he had a big pair. Luda is a loose fish that loses big and wins big like a roller coaster like most loose players

@pIanEt_marz

3 ай бұрын

That doesn't make any sense tho. GT had a big initial raise and a big 4 bet to a weird back 3 bet. What would Luda put him on. GT only has a big pair here or AK.. if you're lucky AQ but doubt it. He just got really lucky with the 8s and still got lucky he was good there

If you can't accept losing,don't gamble.

To much collusion on HCL Luda and Ryan previously secretly living. Nik and Baller having pieces of each other…shady

That flop should never come in a heads up 4 bet pot

1:22 Maybe he's getting the "signal" from the masseuse. A press on the shoulder means check, a press on the back of neck jams.

Anyone that has to say “we have nothing to hide” always has stuff to hide.

If I was the accused cheater - assuming I WASN’T cheating - I’d offer to be searched - for a price. You find I’m cheating? You get my chips. If nothing is found, I get YOUR chips. If you really, really believe someone is cheating, put your money where your mouth is.

GT is a baby in this hand. This is not any kind of weird outrageous hand. He just got tilted because his AA got cracked. Happened to me last week, lost my stack against the BB who flopped a random two pair. Sucks, but happens.

I've watched Luda for a year and that's his style of play. Has that guy not play with him before? Luda plays lots of hand and "sometimes" he hits the gin card. Nothing to see here other than a guy gets pissed that he lost with aces.

@TheFailedmessiah

3 ай бұрын

Yep. He plays 8/6 hard. He has a hard on for that hand.

Alex duvall you are so off on your analysis. You owe Luda an apology for insinuating that he could be a cheater when even someone like Jeremy, who is often on the losing end of a bad beat, defends Luda's play as something that he does regularly.

If that was against Garett they would have definitely made it a big deal…

1st, GT will not return and 2nd, HCL will probably also instill a ban on him.

Luda was banned from LATB.

@AverageAngel

2 ай бұрын

why?

Its 25/50 so are those two or three players not considered deep stacked? Those suited gappers are what you are supposed to see flops with when deep stacked correct? Maybe not?

I’ll say this. I think GT is taking probabilities personally. But… Nick vertucci says “this is the first time I’m hearing this” a couple minutes after saying we heard this an hour ago and “we could’ve muted the audio cause we already heard it” lololol. Definitely not being honest. I think GT is wrong here. But nick is also stretching the truth

This guys never played poker in his life before

Fact is I’ve seen so much, Luda play, and this is very normal for him. There’s definitely no way he’s cheating. He is simply a madman.

Lame guy complaining about losing with Aces, screw that guy

Remember mariano dealth with AA vs KK KK won half a million pot then after a week he dealth with straight flush vs andys a high flush won overv 400k. this just a bad beat for the aces nothing unusual.

This certainly was NOT an unexplainable type play of suited-one-gap hand, and had no similarity to the hand when Garrett got cheated. This was simply someone playing a spec-hand and hitting the flop.

I've seen many losers rant, but its usually against the player, not cheating. Cheating is just something you say when you're unable to fold

I play with some guys in town..this guy went all in with $113 with $12 on the table..one caller with AK...he turns over J8 off...I was like wtf??? Then the flop was JJ38Q...I'm not going all in for $12...I'm glad he didn't let it run out because I had J3

Can we stop pretending that HCL isn't the ultimate shit show. Filled with cheats.

The Garret j4 thing was far more believable as potential cheating, and HCL didn't have to be involved in that hand. Just someone who is getting reads on the cards and sending her a basic "ahead" or "behind" signal. Honestly that j4 hand makes so much more sense when viewed like that, she may not have been technically ahead, but someone getting a quick read on the cards and knowing that her j was higher than Garret's 8 high giving her the signal that she's ahead... It just makes the hand make sense... She gets the "ahead" signal, checks her cards, sees jack high and thinks that means he must have complete trash, so she raises and calls the shove.

If Luda is "cheating" at all, I very much doubt it's at the level that GT is implying here. From the accusations we've heard about Luda it seemed to be more about an unspoken relationship, aka colluding with another player, not rigging an entire casino to spit out the cards he needs. It was a bad beat but that happens, it happens a lot with players like Luda who play so wildly.

Gt should not be playing those stakes Its clearly too much money for him

If anything until nik airball says someone is cheating on hustler then everything else is invalid

I dont blame anyone for being leery of HCL. I would have liked to see the shuffle of this hand.

Totally get GT’s frustration. He raised Luda’s LIMP RERAISE, which is incredibly strong. Luda calls and binks. I’m on the east coast but I’ve heard LA poker is shady AF everywhere.

@xt5459

3 ай бұрын

When there's money involved, everything is shady.