Certainly a nice test for fun but please don't take this FWD vs RWD result seriously. A prepped track with prestine packed snow with no hills is hardly real world scenario. Not to mention true FWD cars have more weight up front. Would love to spend some time on this track though, looks fun. I live in snow 6 months a year and love winter driving.

@gothicpagan.666

2 жыл бұрын

That was close enough to demonstrate the difference

@paulbaretta3269

2 жыл бұрын

Prepared track ideal for consistency, 50/50 weight distribution, no extra weight advantage. Proper test is time from dead stop to maybe a 1/4 mile in a straight line. Interesting to c the difference in distance between 1st and 2nd will end the street (not track) debate once and for all. Do it for your fans

@paulbaretta3269

2 жыл бұрын

Bonus test. Put 40lbs or so in the trunk, then the frunk Put on proper pure snow tires to stop the loss of full traction sooner. Better yet repeat on ice to really showcase the difference

@lamakicker69

2 жыл бұрын

@@gothicpagan.666 ehhh not really. One of the biggest reasons FWD is considered better than RWD in the snow is because of the weight of the engine. Tesla being an electric car has the weight distribution balanced over the whole car where most ICU cars have front mounted engines. That means for most cars more weight will be over the front wheels increasing performance of a FWD car and therefore also means less weight will be over the rear which decreases performance of a RWD car.

@kristoffer3000

Жыл бұрын

@@lamakicker69 If you buy something like a BMW or Mercedes you'll have 50/50 weight distribution, I'm Norwegian and I find both brands to be far superior to any FWD car in the snow and ice and I've driven quite a few!

Always love the videos. This one is particularly relevant to me as I have a Model 3 Performance and recently got to drive in a week’s worth of snow. Fun times!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you had fun :)

For what I've understood driving it on ice and snow, in track mode with -10 it actually turns the esp off BUT it will never turn the traction control off completely. As a matter of fact if you send it (a scandinavian flick i.e.) you can spin out easly, but the wheel spin during acceleration is always controlled. It allows a certain amount of wheel spin but it won't give you all the power. It does make sense cause being 1-speed car when you floor it the wheels could reach up to 260 kph and could be very tricky to recover... just because of the rotating mass.

@Haplo59

2 жыл бұрын

Intersting comment, leaving mine here to follow the thread

@onehorsepower

2 жыл бұрын

fully agree, going 50km/h with wheels going 260km/h would be a recipe for disaster. I know we have both tested this, although wheels only like 140km/h in 3rd or so ;)

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

In AWD I'd tend to agree, but I've certainly had points in RWD cars where I've been going 50 kph and the rears have been going 150kph and it's no big deal. I get why Tesla do it, but they make you jump through hoops for track mode so why not let the driver drive too? (with enough warnings) It is a good point though, without a gearbox and 100% torque those rears would spin up reallllll fast!

@alfo40

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews there use to be a working "dyno mode" for all model 3's. As soon as someone explained the procedure to turn it on they also started counting destroyed 3's around the globe 🤣. Now the Dyno Mode uses the gps antenna to check if you really are on a dyno and eventually cuts the power down to minimum enough to pull over and turn it off!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@alfo40 haha, that's amazing

Awesome. That made a great video and looked so much fun 👍👌

This was a really cool experiment to watch!

Thanks for this test 😊!

Hey Jonathan, hope all is well for you. I'm really hoping to see an Michelin PS5 vs PS4 comparison from you, asap. Super curious about the tyre and your thoughts regarding it.

Another brilliant video mate 👌

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see you in Finland!

One thing that is easy to forget with an EV - the two motors are completely decoupled. That is why Tesla kicks in AWD in a straight line, otherwise the car will be substantially slower if you choose anything other than 50:50 power distribution. It might arguably be slower in corners too, where there is not enough power for the FWD or RWD balance to overcome grip and acceleration is not traction limited like here

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense

@aarons4205

2 жыл бұрын

Well said, and I'm glad someone said it. It's two separate motors driving two separate axels, so if you did true 100% to one axel or the other, you'd be forfeiting an entire motor.

@dpnmodi

2 жыл бұрын

This makes the test even more interesting. For anyone who's wondering if they should buy the dual motor Tesla vs. the single motor Tesla - this test shows that for the extra money, it's only that little bit quicker.

@15bit62

2 жыл бұрын

@@dpnmodi Not really - even in single motor mode it is using both motors in a straight line. Plus, very few people buy a car to race round an ice track. In reality that AWD will make very little difference to you on dry and wet roads, but i can attest that to just drive up the snow and ice covered road currently outside my house the AWD makes a world of difference.

@ImDembe

2 жыл бұрын

True and not true, most cars with high horsepower today have 4wd for a reason, Porsche have done it for years and a 911 4wd launch alot better than the rwd versions, was not many years ago Mercedes AMGs where rwd or even BMW M5 but after 500ish hp you need the 4wd to put down all the power. Car weighs more, you can lose a bit of feel in the steering but the grip when it's wet or winter is better (awd dose jack shit when it's dry).

I laughed all the way through this video. Good job.

Another exciting morning thanks to your video!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

I want to throw out there that Jonathan should be commended for trying to quantify and test something that has long been left to the realm of speculation and anecdotal evidence. His commitment to further testing to shed light on the matter because the testing wasn't as clear-cut as he hoped and his transparency about the testing issues are further proof of his commitment to quality data. Thank you Jonathan!

Loved it when you have turned the X-Ice mistake into an add to subscribe.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta do that youtube life

Looking forward to the upcoming test, especially in non-track mode (so it compares better with the Long Range) and see more of Tesla tests in general. Awesome stuff!

So excited to see ps4 all season vs. cross climate 2 vs. ice x being tested! Not only that, on a model 3!!! This is EXACTLY the information I've been wanting to see. I have PSAS4s and they are great, but also have Winter tires. I want to determine if for my climate if Crossclimate 2s are enough vs. Ice X.

@asasin29892

2 жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to this, would like to see the All seasons tested in 20+c weather, they are always tested in the snow and ice lets see the others seasons please :)

@Polo08816

2 жыл бұрын

This will be the most highly anticipated review.

@Rixter1455

2 жыл бұрын

I am super excited too!!

@trevorshields7347

Жыл бұрын

Just put some Michelin Cross Climate 2's on my Tesla model 3 LR. Bring on the winter!

@AK.__

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorshields7347 It might not start under zero Celsius, unless you will put some heater on the battery.

Thanx! Professional review as always.

Bro you tore that course up

Awesome test

Great idea and execution!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video with the 3’s drive modes but honestly, I’m super excited for the results from your up coming video with the 2 All Season tires I’m on the fence with (CC2 vs PSAS4). I have an AWD GLA 45 in Toronto so it’s a tough decision. Love your work man!

Cool that you can manually tweak the drive mode. Like to see this test performed on a skidpad. And with different tires. So AWD is faster & safer. Glad to see you'll do more with the Crossclimate 2.

@nirfz

2 жыл бұрын

AWD is faster and safer on the throttel, as soon as you need to brake however, it has no advantage. So if you worry about doing uphill starts, awd is your friend. If you want to give a car to a beginner or someone who never drove on snow, it could have a little potential to make is less safe with a good awd car. -> With all torque on one axle, the wheels will slip earlier and tell the driver that it is indeed slippery. With a good awd system and good winter tires it takes quite a binary approach to the throttle pedal to make it slip. So there is the chance of not "noticing" how little grip there actually is and being too fast for stopping when needed. It might sound dumb, but it happens.

@lgunderso2117

2 жыл бұрын

@@nirfz 100%.

@45eno

Жыл бұрын

@@nirfz Wow, that is truly a great explanation of what I feel happens to many AWD drivers. I really think people assume they are planted in the snow driving when they are able to accelerate well enough without a ton of slippage. They fail to understand once they get up to speed they have zero benefit in stopping or turning. This acceleration can lead to faster speeds then their tires are ready to handle. I do see plenty of trucks and suvs spun out in ditches and if I happen to be passing them slow enough to see they usually have a very all season smooth looking tires.

@marekstanek112

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that for most drivers the 4WD only gets you stuck in a place noone will be able to help you at, or kill you horribly. For everyday ride on so beautifully snowy roads I'd prefer a slight front axle priority, probably around 55:45, and definitely good specialised winter tyres. Not as much fuun, but MUCH better braking distance.

Front wheel drive was a cost savings for traditional ice cars because there is no drive shaft and other components are not used and it give you more room in the cabin was the reasoning why they make/made front wheel drive.

Been disappointed with the mild winter in the uk, I love driving in snow when I’ve got the right tyres. Last year was fun. Did find some snow in the Scottish Borders, cross climate 2 did well.

@Mark__A

2 жыл бұрын

There is still hope, can be snowy in February or first part of March... Happened before.

@elkofcanada5003

2 жыл бұрын

I've been disappointed with the weather here, so much snow I can't even get out of my driveway to drive on the snow!! :(

@Cornwall1888

2 жыл бұрын

@Mark Andella yeah last February was when most of the snow came, last year was one of the coldest winters though I think this has been one of the warmest, 16c on New Year’s Day!!

@blitz3408

2 жыл бұрын

Move to Sweden. Here we have snow all winter long. Thats why i drive a Subaru 😁

Nice! Now I’m waiting for the same video with X-ICEs. :)

great review!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Another great vid

Though this is a really interesting and fun test it's important to stress that you can't mimic the performance of a FWD or RWD car just by switching the drive settings. The weight distribution and suspension setup of RWD and FWD cars are quite different. Not to mention the AWD system kicking back in without permission! If you wanted you could use a RWD Model 3 that doesn't have a front motor at all I suppose. Also, whilst setting the fun aspects aside, the most informative comparison for the rest of us would be with the normal driver aids on. In fact any non Performance Tesla models will not allow you any of those Track Mode settings anyway. I drive a RWD Model 3 on winter tyres (on ordinary country roads) in snow and it is absurdly competent! (I have not hammered around on a protected private track ... I mean at moderate speeds!)

@pavlepetkovic986

8 ай бұрын

Completly right comment on this stuff!

I ordered this car and it should be coming in a month or so. I can't wait to drive it in the snow. I bought Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4s (20"), I think they should be really fun. Absolutely can't wait.

I'm literally getting ready to buy some cross climate 2's, think I'll hold fire till the next video! Brilliant video!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

That'll be October I'm afraid!

Been running CC2’s on my long range model 3 for 15000 kms through Canadian winter with average 198 wh/km. Efficiency is improving tho as days are getting warmer. Surprisingly as per third party Tezlab app I regularly had better winter efficiency than other model 3’s around my area probably running dedicated winters or all seasons.

My winter driving is almost all city driving,so no hotdogging around curves. Getting out of my back lane is the thing I find most important. All I know is FWD is best for me if one wants to avoid getting stuck in snow. I am on my 2nd FWD (first one bought in 1995),and have not gotten stuck once in winter. At worst,I have had to rock the car back and forth to get moving.I run on all season tires year round. My RWD Cutlass would get stuck several times each winter,in spite of having studded snows and extra weight in the trunk.

Hey man, lovely stuff as usual! Will you ever consider doing motorcycle tyres reviews? Or mb recommend someone you'd trust your choice with?

Really the perfect scenario to test drivetrain performance in the snow… same car same conditions same driver

You are simply the best :)

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Great video as always, big fan. However... When looking at your summer tyre videos a track is a great place as I'm an experienced and confident driver and push the car hard. Whereas with winter tyre videos as a UK resident 'Snow' is not a full throttle, loads of space to have fun and push on a track. The information I and I assume others are looking for are about gentle driving conditions and where each drive mode will help, this would include (boringly) getting off the driveway, pulling away up hill and braking downhill, turning corners without plowing straight on! Or crashing! I don't want to be negative as I love the channel but track for summer works, for winter it's a more realistic test and answer video people are really looking for (and searching for). Hope for more great videos in future, currently RWD in a M240i, maybe heading back to my old WRX STI after this recent snow.

I bought some Michelin tires based on your reviews before, so no worries.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

:D

Very helpful

I'm super excited to see your PSAS4 VS crossclimate 2 VS x ice snow video. I think I'm about to buy PSAS4's and X ice snows for my car and cross climates for my mom's identical car. I've run continental DWS/DWS06 on my car for almost a decade, and I love my blizzak WS90's but they just don't have enough tread life. She needs more snow grip than her conti touring tires will provide. Thanks, as always!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a nice little setup! :)

I put a set of Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4s on my 2005 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 SC/T and they work great all around. Night and day better than the previous tires I used. Cooper CS4 and some original Goodyear tires that came default with the car.

Love this content

Had no idea you could dial in the power balance. Cool! Seems like this is asking for another test in the summer on a dry track!

Still can’t wait for the Pilot Sport 5 review. Heard you have them in the UK. Would love to see a full review and comparison to the PS4S before they land in the US in March

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

They don't compare to the PS4S, just the PS4, see latest community post!

love the south carolina plate with tons of snow all around

Appreciating the Casio CA53W-1 cameo at :21. 👍

I have those ties on my 2009 Nc Miata and it handles like a champ!! big props to the michelin pilot sport 4s

Hi mate, great video. You're exactly right there, in track mode the adjustable power bias only comes into play when turning, I'm on my second model 3 performance now and I discovered this when they first introduced track mode. I remember when track mode was released, I downloaded it and went straight out to go and do a massive burn out but instead the car just gripped and buggered off. Its weird, it's like a hybrid of a rear wheel drive car and an all wheel drive car. I'm pretty sure it's set up like that for pace but also with 500hp and instant torque I'm certain the safety aspect was of most concern, the thing would instantly break traction rolling at much higher speeds, would probably be a death trap for the market it serves.

Your 1 lap in FWD followed by 1 lap in RWD 2.1 seconds quicker is not conclusive proof that RWD is better. It could be that your FWD practice lap gave you the feel for the car and course that helped you get a better lap time in RWD. You have all the makings of a successful car journalist. Entertaining. Keep it up.

This was a really cool test but it's important to note that the model 3 comes in RWD and AWD flavours so it was never designed to be strictly FWD which puts it at a disadvantage

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Not arguing there, plus it's really part time FWD. I'll be redoing this properly with two cars.

@vlad9999

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, because of weight distribution and various factors, the data can't be extrapolated to other vehicles

@philiptong4978

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews and if there is going to be a sequel episode would love to see the difference of driver manually applying advanced driving techniques managing traction vs automation, assuming that is allowed

What would be very interesting is to see a comparison between the normal cheap Model 3 with only RWD and the AWD long-range one. I've got my RWD one and the traction control for normal driving in the snow is the best I've ever driven (I've got the Pirelli Sottozero 3 T0 on it). Always surprised how good it behaves in snow either with full-traction-control or with it limited through Slip-Start. In my opinion nobody needs the AWD version in nearly all cases, even in the mountains.

@SAGITTARlUS

6 ай бұрын

Depends on where you live. I can think of a few times awd was the only way through

@Wasabi9111

4 ай бұрын

@@SAGITTARlUSagree. If There are a lot of hills, awd is better. I have a lot of hills in my neighborhood. All my cars have CC tires and in the snow, my fwd vehicle would struggle to go up the inclines while the awd cars would do it easily.

Michelin Pilot Sport 5 test. We pray for it.

I've ran Michelin CrossClimate as spring/summer/autumn-tires in Norway for the last couple of years. I see no reason for going back to regular summer tires in my use case with rather cold and varying temperatures on average. Very little wear on them too.

So my biggest issue with this test is that when you are driving on the roads you aren’t racing in the snow. Drivetrain only changes cornering characteristics when you are using throttle. Unless there is a corner on a hill the normal driver won’t be cornering with throttle. Winter tires are always working in your favor but drivetrain can only help you when you are accelerating. Thanks for all of your great videos though! Just wish more people realized the importance of winters in a cold/snowy climate such as where I live.

@pichu766

2 жыл бұрын

I have a Miata NA and a Veloster N. The all seasons on the Veloster can’t even touch the Miata with winters in the snow. Turning, accelerating, braking are all better with the Miata. And it doesn’t even have ABS, while the Veloster does.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Fair comments :) Road driving would make for a boring video though, and people want to know the fastest way round :) I need to do this properly with RWD vs FWD

Back in the late 80’s , County Durham, England. One weekend it snowed. Revellers in Bishop Auckland were stranded as all the Taxis were RWD Ford Sierras. Carousers in Stanley were fine as the taxis there were FWD Vauxhall Cavaliers. The amount of RWD BMW’s you see abandoned as soon as it snows in the UK is unreal.

Thank you so much for all the hard work you put in to make this different drive train video in cold weather. Great to know that there is just nothing better than AWD when driving in this kind of road condition. VERY, VERY MUCH looking forward to the X-Ice Snow vs CrossClimate 2 video. On a very different topic: I wonder if any tire manufacture would sponsor you to make an ultimate video on snow vs All-Season vs All-Weather tires vs summer vs All Terrain vs... whatever tires in snow, dry, wet, hot, cold conditions with normal, plus/minus 2, 4, 6, 8, and maximum psi tire pressure while measure the lap speeds, fuel consumptions, stability, breaking distance, noise, comfort level and whatever the expert information available from the manufacture.... so the drivers can understand the importance as well as the differences when driving in different tire pressure level. I have looked and searched for this topic on the internet over and over and only got general "you should follow the sticker by the doo, it will cause premature ware...r" information but none actually provides real life testing data and tolerance range especially on these new tire compound technology. You would be the first if it is doable. Thanks in advance.🖖

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

That would be the dream to do that test, but it would be so time consuming and expensive, especially trying to maintain conditions across so many tests and days!

@Jeo-What

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Imagine the amount of views such video will produce since it would be the one of its kind of video ever been done and.... how many more people would subscript to the channel due to the value added information for someone/sponsor(s) who/whom is/are willing to spend the time and energy to do so! (How many more tires would people buy from the sponsored manufacture(s) who is/are welling to invest in "EDUCATING" their consumers?)🤔

@philiptong4978

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews start with combinations of tire compound choice and tire pressure under very similar road/weather conditions (i.e. same day but many many wheel/tire change), like you showed us other parameters could be obtained from the data log

Hello Jonathan, been a big fan of your tires testing after I found it on the KZread, was hoping one day you would have the opportunity to test the Michelin tire on a Tesla & dream finally came true, now looking forward to see you test the X-ice Snow, CrossClimate 2 & PA4 & 5 on a Tesla again 👍👏

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I'm excited to finish that test too!

Model 3 AWD with crossclimate 2 is just nuts. No slip what so ever during my ski trip last week, even in 10cm of fresh snow.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Try it with x-ice snow, even bigger wow factor!

@kevintdickson

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, but I found the CC2 slips sideways on ice much more that Blizzak.

The teased upcoming test of PS4 all seasons vs CC2 vs X-Ice might break the internet.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

:D

Cool. I'm curious to what the difference between -10 and normal traction control would do. How much slower would you go?

Good winter tyres and driver skills are the best options for winter.

Hello, i think you're the only person that will do a thorough test so I was wondering if you could possibly make a pros/cons video on soft vs stiff sidewalls on tyres, please?

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Everything has soft sidewalls now :( But I'll look into it

Many people are experiencing winter weather and do not have the experience to drive in such weather. I think videos on how to and tire analogy would do well. Of course getting uphill, out of snowed in spots and dealing with traffic are the issues. However your driving skills, explanations would be very helpful.

id like to see a highway loop of each see if they use less energy switching to just fwd vs awd vs rwd

Can you test also front, back and all wheel drive on snowy hills and do comparison, thx

White car in a purely white track and a drone following. This looks great :)

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to film but it does look good

Ive driven both fwd and rwd in harsh Alberta winters and my daily is the rear wheel drive crown victoria lx trim (not a police or taxi fleet vehicle). That car has excellent 50/50 weight distribution as is and handles so good in winter with my winter tires of course. Ive never added weight to the trunk and never been stuck. For the average driver, they dont care about "fun", just getting from point A to B, nor do they possess the finesse and knowledge to handle rear wheel drive in slippery conditions and, they don't know about the technical aspects of each drive train. As someone who understands all points mentioned above, rear wheel drive will always be my go to, for the everyday driver that doesnt know these points, I can understand why they would think front wheel drive is better. Im not trying to insult anyone who prefers fwd, or you standard everyday drivers that don't "study vehicles". Im simply stating, you have no idea what youre missing out on when you're sticking with that fwd car you got.

Could you make a test with budget winter tyres vs good/premium all season?

We want a video with the new Michelin Pilot Sport 5!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@DashCamSerbia

2 жыл бұрын

Yeeeees!

I don't want my car to be fun in the snow, I want it to be safe and go where I want it to go as much as possible. Car enthusiasts love RWD because it is supposedly more fun, but whoever drives like that except on a track day? AWD is obviously best, but for driving in snow, I much prefer having the front wheels driven rather than the rear.

In the end with all the electronic stability controls what counts the most are the tires.

When it snows my husband and I drive the Challenger to have fun, and the TL with winters for literally everything else.

@daMoonSon

Жыл бұрын

What is tl?

And you if want the best ice and snow laptime stick with regen at 100%! It's so amazing as it will completely eliminate the understeer even on tighter turn and it won't be anyone with same tyres able to match her laptime!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

There was too much rear braking with these tyres to get round quickly! Maybe with the aids on it would have helped more!

@alfo40

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews I did run with snow tyres (continental 860) on pure ice and destroyed few subaru’s, focus rs etc… super effective!

Thanks for driving my car! Are these the best all-season tires for it? I can't wait for your comparison video ;-)

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

From the reviews online these seem to be everyones fav

Can I ask you what do you think of Yokohama,I use to use them years ago,handling was fantastic wear was bad do, I have Hankook Venus V12 Evo2 on my mk4 Mondeo now but was thinking of trying the Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 next, which would you go for, the channel is fantastic love the in-depth reviews

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Generally yokohama don't test that well, check out www.tyrereviews.com to see test results

Now do this test with propper RWD and FWD cars. FWD with ICE engine have a lot more weight over the front axle. This changes everything.

It would be awesome if the Pilot Alpin 5 could be added to the comparison at some point, it's what I'm currently using on my Model 3 in winter. I'd assume it sits between the CC2 and the X-Ice, but it would be awesome to know exactly where it sits between them.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to, not available in the US yet though

@reinulf656

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'd also like that for the future! PA5 is very popular in Germany

Regarding the consumption, if drift my Mustang my range would be roughly 43 miles at the fantastic consumption of 3.1 mpg.

Superb demostration that RWD is always better than FWD. I don't know why some EV get FWD instead of RWD. Keep it up Jonathan !!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

:D

@sanketjain9320

2 жыл бұрын

RWDs are inferior in most applications IF the car is very front heavy. Simply coz of low weight and therefore grip on the driven axle.

Did you already have the chance to test the new Michelin Pilot Sport 5

Which would be on with roads and off camber turns in the snow? The track is somewhat a controlled environment. LSDs have their own character, but I gather would be a value add. Great vid.

When are you doing the mich 5 review?????

Please can you test summer tire vs uhp all season tires in colder temperatures and see how much difference there is

Great drone shots , the model 3 looks amazing . Tesla doesn't allow driver aids to be turned off completely , can be seen on track days with the model 3 .

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

White on white is hard to film but looks great!

@jarnovilen5259

2 жыл бұрын

It is a very outdated design, but if you like it, go ahead...

@TheRocky3211

2 жыл бұрын

@@jarnovilen5259 thanks for your opinion 👍

@rdmz135

2 жыл бұрын

the design is half a decade old yet holds up extremely well

I love that you're able to make the same car do FWD, RWD, and AWD. I'd imagine other EV's going forward will probably have similar functions as well.

@NotTubeIm

Жыл бұрын

It’s only available on performance models with track mode, not even on other regular Teslas. So I wish too but I doubt it’ll become more common.

@erlend1554

Жыл бұрын

The new chevy can be ordered with fwd/rwd/awd as in actual motors and not just software tuning

Great video, been waiting for a new one for long time. I understand why you chose this Tesla for the test, but the results are not very representative. FWD cars have most of the weight over the front axle, which this Tesla hasn't got, so dynamically it does not really tell how FWD car would behave in real world in these conditions.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I'm planning on doing it properly :)

@oktayozs

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Three different cars with similar power and weight would be perfect. For ex: golf gti, gr 86, gr yaris

Swapped Michelin PS4S on my M3 Performance for Pirelli P Zeros as there's a two month wait for Michelins in the UK at the minute. Pirellis are definitely worse - might be ok in the summer, but no use at this time of year (and yes I do know about all seasons - I have them in my car - but lease companies aren't interested). 25k mile Michelins had more grip than brand new Pirellis.

I always have been meaning to try out how my model 3 performance handles in the snow in full RWD mode

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

PRetty fun!

How do you fit the original 18" wheels in a Model 3 Performance with big brakes?? Can you confirm if that 18" are 2021 model wheels? Or if the centers of the wheels have been filed? The wheels touch the calipers? If can you answer me, I really would appreciate it. Thank you.

That's great and all, but how'd you get the Aero wheels on the 3P? I'd love to pickup a set of their winter wheels and tire package to swap in and out of for winter as riding on 20s isn't ideal this time of year.

@tyrereviews

Жыл бұрын

Tesla modified the brake calipers I believe. You need a big file

When is the new test coming with the different tires?

Waiting for the PS5 review 😁🔥🔥🔥

I just wonder how the times would be if you set the traction for 60:40 and then 40:60! Please, try it next time!

I started watching this video and couldn't get through the first minute because the guy said something misinformed right out the gate (and there's been hundreds of examples of other KZread videos showing this misconception)... That slider does not adjust to turn off front wheel or rear wheel, it only affects how much oversteer or understeer you would like to have in your driving rotation. It would be so lovely to be able to lock out one axle or the other...

Is the Michelin premier LTX coming soon. It’s on the website under my tyre size for all season but no information on it

I enjoy your reports and texts. I watched the Michelin cross 2 test with those very pointed deep treads and want try them. I called to order and found that I could only get tires for the front on my tesla model x performance and back tires are not available. Yes, the tires are wider in the back. I am hope g Michelin offers the rear tires for this winter season. Looking forward to your testing these on the model 3

@KyleBrightman

2 жыл бұрын

I’m in the same boat, I hope Michelin adds 255/50-19 to the CC2 sizes for the rear of my pending ID.4 AWD. Otherwise I might have to square stance the 235/55-19.

btw: how did you fit 18" wheels on a Performance version? Did you change the front brakes?

@minishadow5

2 жыл бұрын

I put some Martian Wheels on my car, the 18s fit over the performance brakes - check out "out of spec" on KZread for videos

@alfo40

2 жыл бұрын

@@minishadow5 thx! I knew about Martian’s but these seem to be the standard aerowheel…

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I believe Michelin had to do some clearance work on the rear brake calipers

@martianwheels

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. A good bit needs to be shaved off the rear calipers to fit the OEM 18s on a Performance 3/Y. Ours are direct fit. @Tyre Reviews love your videos!

-10 stability control plus 100% rear bias actually puts the car into "drift mode" where you have the least amount of stability and traction control in the corner. Anything less than 100% rear bias then the stability and traction will come back in and that's what you've experienced in the AWD test.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

That explains it! But even in drift mode, it doesn't give you full rear axle control

@BennetKao

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews yes, the bias is only when the wheel is turned. Whenever the steering is straight, it will send power to both front and rear. As far as I know, there is no official way to enable just the front or rear motor.

The 18 Inch default Tesla rims are fitting over the performance brake?

I'd love to know how the modified the Performance to accept the Aero wheels

Would you recommend this tire for my 911/992 C4S? I live in New York and this car is my daily. Currently have the OEM Eagle F1’s. What u think ?

This is my exact car, white Tesla Model 3 Performance, except I have a set of CrossClimate+ on it. I've absolutely switched it to all RWD for some drift fun after a snow/ice storm, on the snow the CC+ has too much grip still and doesn't drift much (which is probably a good thing), but in the ice I was going around corners at nearly 45 degree angles! As for the Tesla using both motors (and therefor AWD) during acceleration, I think that is true. The KZread channel DragTimes did a test on 0-60 on FWD, RWD, and AWD and the times were 3.3, 3.4, and 3.2 respectively, which isn't nearly as much difference in acceleration as you should see if they truly turned off one of the motors. kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGh6xJiNn6TNZs4.html&ab_channel=DragTimes

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I had a set of the CC2 on the car for another test... it drifts beautifully if you have the space :)