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@jonup321

2 жыл бұрын

Johnathan, the abreviation for the tire/tyre is AS4

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonup321 I seem to prefer saying PISSASSFOUR 😅

@KyleBrightman

2 жыл бұрын

Lap differential at 7:10 should be 31.82 sec (incorrectly listed as 21.82).

@duncanlambert8134

2 жыл бұрын

Hi great video but can you tell us where in the UK you can actually buy these tyres I can't see where on the internet the all season one thanks.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@duncanlambert8134 You sadly can't get the PSAS4 in the UK

The only thing that would make this comparison more perfect would be including the CrossClimate2.

@Cornwall1888

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s what I wanted to see I’m getting them soon, I’m guessing they would’ve lapped around 1:25-1:30

@marcvalme7732

2 жыл бұрын

This!

@digital2k6

2 жыл бұрын

This

@DashCamSerbia

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they would do better than PS AS 4.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

They'd certainly sit somewhere between the PSAS4 and the X-Ice Snow. I plan to test this next year sooooo keep an eye on the channel :)

Absolutely loved this one again mate, really impressed with the all season, what a tyre! Keep up the mega work!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Much love

video suggestion unless its already been done.. could we see equal tyres but worn? so 1.0mm (illegal) vs 1.6mm (legal) vs 3mm vs new? I think it'll be interesting to see in the dry how a "slick" tyre would do in the dry vs wet, and then equally with tread depth. Obvioulsy bald would be worse in wet, but by how much? Aquaplaning on the bald tyre is how much worse?

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Working on it :)

@jjmmjj9999

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews wahey! thanks for the reply! look forward to it. cheers

@aleekcc1

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews I was just wondering the same glad we will see this :)

7:52: "You join me......at walking pace......sideways" not sure why, but that killed me 😆😆 Thanks, once again Jon and Tyre Reviews for another incredibly informative video, keep up the great work.

@bbartlow0307

2 жыл бұрын

Yep... Jon does outstanding work on these reviews!

People don't give you enough credit for being an excellent driver. At 6:40 I was like dayum. Very impressed

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

The first year I had my E60 M5 I got caught out in some sleet/freezing rain on the Pilot Super Sports that were on the car when I bought it. Even though nothing was sticking to the road, just a freezing, wet road made it almost impossible to get the car up the slightest incline out of the parking lot I was in at the time. That one instance made it clear to me the importance of tire designs and compounds, and I can assure that I will never make the same mistake again. Great comparison / review as always!

@vollcare4076

2 жыл бұрын

Pilot super sport is most likely the worst tyre for anything below 5 Celsius But also probably the best tyre above 20/25 Celsius and in the dry

@Scotford_Maconochie

2 жыл бұрын

A set of winter tires is a lot cheaper than an accident or totalling your car.

@eXoguti094

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in SoCal and I daily my E46 M3. I know rain and snow are scarce where I'm at, but I bought the AS4 just for those rare days where I may encounter some rain or go up north with it. I've already gone through one rainy day with them, and just for those moments I think they're worth it. I definitely wouldn't have made it anywhere with the PS4S it had. It's not like I'm tracking the car, dry performance on the road is still excellent.

@jangruber1929

2 жыл бұрын

@@Scotford_Maconochie true, but also having two sets of tyres isn't more expensive than having only summer tires (because each one is only used for half a year, so they last 'twice as long'), except the small cost for tyre changes if you don't do them yourself.

@bbartlow0307

2 жыл бұрын

@@vollcare4076 Completely agree. I'd even draw that same conclusion at a higher temp than 40/41 fahrenheit, or roughly 5 C. Yes, the original PSS is an incredible tire in the dry (perhaps even better than the newer 4s) but traction drops considerably every 1 degree below 50 F. Can't yet speak to the 4s... i've only 10,000 on this set. But so far I actually prefer the PSS to the 4s. Anyone else agree?

Watching your videos is like watching a good series on netflix, the only difference is these once are super useful.

Considering how well those AS4's perform in the summer, that's outstanding winter performance. I used to swap between a set of 235 width 19" Pilot Super Sports and a set of 225 width 18" Alpin PA4's on a Focus RS... In the summer it was compromised in anything but warm, dry weather (the balance with the PSS's in the rain was *not* good, grip at both ends was just binary), and in the winter it felt compromised until there was *actually* snow or cold rain on the ground. Now I run 235 width 18" AS4's year round and it feels better than either the PSS's or 99% of the time.

@GrantZaitchick

Жыл бұрын

A big part of that is that the Super Sports are actually now outdated. They were a big step forward in "summer" tires when they first came out, but as soon as Michelin released the Pilot Sport 4S, almost all of the SuperSport tires were outmatched due to a large difference in research and development. The only ones that have maintained some relevance are the model specific tires, such as the Corvette specific Super Sports.

Fantastic! I actually performed this exact test myself to show my friends what a modern high quality all season tire can do and what a summer tire cannot do (we al used to used summer tires but we all moved to a region that has light snow and even in the lightest of snow the summer tires were extremely dangerously slippery and we could not drive those cars until we switched to the high quality summer tires, after seeing you videos, of course, to select the best tires) Thank you! Well Done!

This was so interesting to watch! I didn't expect the UHP all seasons to do that well haha - I just ordered the Crossclimate 2s so now Im going to feel even more confident about using them in the snow this winter ❄️ Now you need to try these in the summer 🔥!

BRILLITANT review! I super super super appreciate you including the summer tire in this round up!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!

I would like to add that the All-Season tire is much less effective than the Winter tires in icy conditions, based on my experience in sub-zero temps in Alaska. Inclines and getting moving were very difficult if not impossible (ended up getting stuck several times) on the all-seasons. Winter tires negated this issue entirely. Edit: Tires were Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4's and Continental VikingContact 7's.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

100%, ice is where sipes count

@alkalinetaupehat

2 жыл бұрын

I was fascinated with the sipes on the VikingContact 7 - they bend with finger pressure and form a more-aggresive profile. I'd love to see a cutaway view of the sipes, it seems like there's a void in between them, if that makes sense.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@alkalinetaupehat something like this? kzread.info/dash/bejne/lYmZlqhuo9GZl8Y.html

@alkalinetaupehat

2 жыл бұрын

They seem to have an interlocking effect, but they also deflect in the direction a tire rotates.

Really making me want to switch off my dedicated winters (General Altimax Arctics) for these All Seasons. Instead of having 1 set UHP summers (Hankook RS4 for track and daily) and winters, I can do one daily All Season set year round and keep my fun time track tires off the car and for the track. Living in New Jersey, USA, our roads are plowed and cleared relatively quickly after a snow storm, but we all do our fair share of snow/wet road driving throughout the season. Great video! Loved it, and I got caught out once in my WRX with the RS4s in a weird early november snowstorm. Looked really similar to you sliding about on the 4S, except I had 0 traction to get moving even with AWD. I literally could not get up/out of an on ramp (slip road?) and ended up getting hit by someone that slid a bit off the road. Friends don't let friends drive summer tires in the winter.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

"Friends don't let friends drive summer tires in the winter." I might steal that :)

WOW! As a long time PS4 user I am so impressed by that all season tyre! Can you test the all season vs. PS4 in the dry and wet to see how they compare? Awesome video!

Knowing how informative your videos are, this stopped from going to bed until I finished watching it.. Definitely enjoyed your tyre comparison videos.. Awesome!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you! Sleep well!

Super helpful video. I purchased the Pilot Sport All Season 4, and watched all of your other videos and looked at your site. The one place I was not 100% confident in the decision over another all-season was the winter performance for occasional light snow -- I was perhaps 85% confident -- but this video brought me to 100%. I have not traversed the snow yet, but I am incredibly satisfied with my purchase based on the dry and wet performance (warm and cold) that I have experienced thus far -- and it sounds like I will be pleased in the snow within (in excess of?) the range of all-season tire capability.

Btw, 11:50 -it’s over 30 secs, not 20 😉👍

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

The 20 seconds is right, the printer time for winter was 10 seconds too fast, sorry!

Absolutely amazing video! I need to see a direct comparison between the PSAS4 and the CC2 across a range of conditions, it feels like that's the only knowledge I'm lacking now.

The day before I was planning to park my BMW Z3 Roaster for the winter ( I am in Canada),......it snowed. The storage garage was two (2) blocks away, but the Michellin Pilot Sports the car was wearing could NOT move the car an Inch forward or backward, in any gear! The cold had turned the tires into hockey pucks. Had to call for a flatbed tow truck to load the car up and deliver it to the storage facility. Lesson learned, I sacrificed some performance (on wet and dry) and got a set of UHP BF Goodrich A/S, that won't leave me stranded, ever. Great review as always, really enjoy your work. :)

One of the best comparison videos I've seen in a while...great job! I had a suped up subaru and when I was in Canada, I ran high performance summer tires from about May-Sep, then winter tires Oct-April. I had a separate set of track tires.

Really an eye-opening test! I was surprised by how capable those all seasons are. Only 20% off the pace of winter tires in the snow, and probably less than 20% off the pace of summer tires on warm/dry pavement! That’s some seriously impressive engineering.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, they're super impressive

What a fascinating comparison, Jon. This was very instructive, as I have the PS4S on my Z and was curious as to how it would handle under adverse conditions. As you mentioned, the PS4S performs surprisingly well for a maximum performance summer tire but it clearly was never designed to handle snow. I wouldn't even consider venturing onto roads with any kind of snow covering with these tires. The degradation of handling performance of the PS4S on snow is probably indicative of how most of these high performance summer tires would fare on snow. If I lived in a climate that saw snow in the winter I would have to keep a set of PS4S all season tires on hand to have mounted during the winter. This is one of the reasons that I like living in the San Diego and SF bay areas, as I can drive all year with summer high performance tires. Keep up the good work. BTW: I've put 20K miles on my set of PS4S tires and have barely worn off ½ of the tread. I can't rotate my tires but I have dialed in the correct inflation pressure for the tires and I am getting even wear across the tread.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

That's some great wear!

@adimchionyenadum2962

2 жыл бұрын

You must drive very conservatively. I had them as an OE on my 205HP Kia Ceed GT and they barely lasted 15,000 km and 18 months. But boy, I enjoyed driving, including near zero degrees winter, even though without snow. After a few years rigmarole here and there, I am coming back to the tried thing, tomorrow!

Great test. Thanks to your 2020 all season tests I bought Goodyear vector 4 season gen 3 tyres for my Volvo v50 2.4i. It’s wonderful to know you can have control over your vehicle no matter what the climate throws at you. I avoided the summer tyre in winter catastrophe which you ably demonstrated in this test. Once again thank you so very much. 🇬🇧

My Tesla Model 3 Performance comes standard with 20” Pilot Sport 4Ss. For fall/winter, I switch to a set of 19s w/ Pilot Sport All Seasons. Absolutely love the review and how spot on the data and reporting is! Keep up the good work!

Love to see the reverse of this - all three on a track to see how close the all season is to the p4s. I just bought these for my Golf R as my “winter” set for Virginia. Had blizzaks last year in Chicago and it was epic. Great video 👍

I put a set of the Pilot Sport All Season 4 on my Golf R this spring and was interested to see how it would handle a bit of snow. Well the snow came late and all at once. They weren't quite up to the extreme conditions but after the roads were cleared performed fine on hard-packed snow. I can corroborate that they perform better longitudinally than laterally, surprisingly so. In starting and braking the seat of the pants feel is that they work almost as well as dedicated winters. They fall off once you start sliding sideways though -- I'll put the Blizzaks back on for the rest of the season.

This is the test I was waiting for. Very few people run summer tires in countries that have snow for half the year.

Thanks for having the courage to do this. Nobody seems to want to test all seasons vs winter for some reason.

Great video, I just switched my cars to their winter tires last weekend (all my cars wear Michelin X-Ice XI3). I need to negotiate a decent hill to get to my house (and it's often not plowed yet by the time I get to it) and those tires make a big difference compared to the Primacy MXM and Energy MXM all seasons the cars wore before. If I didn't need to negotiate that hill I could probably still get by with all seasons since it's not constant unplowed snow in the Rhode Island area. And the PS4S segment was funny.

The Tyre King!! I've reviewed every tire I or my family has owned on the website to show support. I've become my families Tire guru. The problem is I've become excited about tires but not many want to discuss 😆 it's better the politics!!!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the reviews, appreciated! :)

YES! THIS IS THE VIDEO I WAS WAITING FOR

Beautiful review! I always know that the different season tires can make a difference, but I didn't realize it could be that significant. Thank you.

This is amazing, greatly appreciated! Few months ago I got the Michelin P4S for my BMW F10 550i LCI and for winter I went for Michelin PA4 and they're amazing. I love these videos, thanks so much! Now it would be great to see the snow tires vs. all season champs like Continental DWS06. My friend is adamant that he does not need Winters here in Canada!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

The PSAS4 is the all season champ, it beat the DWS06 on snow!

@othullo

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews really? I saw reviews stating the opposite, dws06+ better on snow, while psas4 better in dry/wet

@hoodieninja1642

2 жыл бұрын

@@othullo that was the as3 that lost in the snow but was better in dry/wet the as4 is updated

I get way too excited when a new Tyre Review gets posted. Keep it up! Just bought a new set of Vredenstein Quatracs for my Outback (CrossClimate2 not available in the U.S. in my size...boo!) and will be sure to post a review when I've got some miles on them. I do a big NYC to Chicago Winter road trip every year and I encounter pretty much all kinds of wintry conditions on that drive. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Quatrac's reported superiority in wet road handling/braking will make me less grumpy about not being able to buy the "best" tires in the all weather category. "Wintry Mix" is what the weather folks around here describe, slushy, snowy sleet that manages to build up but never totally freeze up, so you can't even enjoy a nice snowy hike in the woods. haha.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I look forward to hearing how you get on with them :)

Just bought the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 tires yesterday for my mustang. Very excited after this review

Great comparison video. I'm definitely impressed by the performance of those all seasons in that test. When the weather gets warmer I'd like to see you do a test of the summer vs the all seasons.

These All Season look really good, I wonder how they gonna perform in summer. Definitely feels like more than decent choice.

@stretch90

2 жыл бұрын

I've had Michelin high performance summers before and the AS4s feel so similar to them. I was convinced all summer that I was driving ultra high performance summer tires, and because of that I was sure they would suck in the snow but I was blown away at how well they handle. The main reason I'm watching these videos with the AS4 is to make sure I wasn't crazy and that these tires are as good as they seem. It's insane to finally find an all season tire that's actually good in every season!

Phenomenal video and review! I have the Michelin AS4 in Seattle, WA and never felt unsafe in them. It rains almost all year round and it snows occasionally, so these tires are the epitome of an all in one. During the summer it handles great on my 04’ BMW 330i zhp. I will never look elsewhere for an ultra high performance season tire. Don’t forget it has 45,000 miles tread warranty!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad oyu like them :) IF you get some time stick a review over at www.tire-reviews.com :D

@alexc7864

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly couldn't have found a more perfect comment. I also live in Seattle and I've been stuck all month on what I need to get. I purchased a car out of state that has a set of Michelin pilot super sports and while they are really fun, turn into bricks when it gets cold. I'm scheduling an appointment for AS4 asap.

@chrisgerarddelossantos2103

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexc7864 the AS4 is the best PNW tire. I’ve driven from Seattle to Spokane numerous times during heavy rain and very light snow (non-stick), and they perform wonderfully. Never felt unsure on the road. Best A/S tire in the market. Plus the technology on A/S are very advanced that you sometimes can’t even tell between A/S and summer

@john-sea

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgerarddelossantos2103 Do you think they are better than CrossClimate 2's for Seattle area plus occasional ski trips?

@chrisgerarddelossantos2103

2 жыл бұрын

I’d say the AS4 is more for spirited drivers (since it’s a high performance all season), while the CC2 is more of those that will hit more frequent extreme roads.

The best tyre reviewer and What I really want!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

:D

Another brilliant review Jonathan. I felt as though I was sitting in the car next to you! Keep up the great work.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :D

Great vid, thanks! As a UK driver, I'd love to see wet, dry and wear comparisons between the PS4S and the PSAS4 to see if it's worth making the switch!

I love how Jon ‘pretends’ to not to know how incredibly slow the PS4S will be in the snow 😂

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

😶

Thanks, been waiting for this

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoyed!

Excellent side-by-side comparison! It'd be cool to see how easily and badly different tire widths/types hydroplane - stock width vs trendy super-wide widths, maybe throw in a winter or 200tw just for fun! The best content on tires out there. Keep it up!

yessss... another amazing video.!!!!!!!!!! good to see the pilot all season 4 tires i got doing surprisingly well ! even though we won't drive in the snow often at all..

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

They were mega surprising!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

:D

Great comparo! Def puts things in perspective. Would love to see a similar test on cold but dry roads. Personally unless you live in a hot climate with a full on sports car I dont see the need to swap back and forth between summer/winter tires.

@cmdrratzass7305

2 жыл бұрын

So you would only swap summer/winter tires on sports cars in hot climates that never see snow? 😂 There might be a tiny little slip-up in your grammar.

@Adplusamequalsadam

Жыл бұрын

@@cmdrratzass7305 I think they mean they’ll never use summer tires unless they had a sports car in a hot climate.

Great video. I’ve just replaced my Michelin Pilote Sport by the Winter tyres of Michelin Alpine 5 and I’m glad I did!

Thank you! I was waiting on this exact comparison. Staying on PSAS4 for the winter now!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Let me know how you get on!

@jpmkiv

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Ice on hills should be part of their proving ground! PSAS4 barely kept me on the rd on black ice last winter..

For the rare time we get snow, I think these all-seasons will be perfect for my WRX. I couldn't go anywhere in February since i had summer-only tires.

@ryeman999

2 жыл бұрын

I put some general altimax rt43s on my sti last year idk how they'd compare with the PSAS4 but I had no problems driving in snow besides shoveling snow with my bumper.

Great video. Would LOVE to see this test repeated on a cold dry/wet track and on ice! Throw in a >45 deg F (7 deg C) dry/wet test and you’d have the perfect set!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

The AS tyre would struggle on ice compared to the winter!

@ganzonomy

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews they're not great on ice. But I've seen idiots where I've had to just run away. I was visiting my GF last winter and while psas4 isn't a great choice for a v6 Accord, I had to get far away from a cayman gt4 on cup 2s. I don't think I've ever been so terrified to walk on the sidewalk in my entire life.

@rkcrlr7319

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I currently have PS4S tires on my car but was planning on switching to PS AS 4 tires when they wear out. However, I never drive that car in snow or ice. My main concern with the PS4S is cold wet and dry temperatures below 0F. I'd like to stick with PS4S tires if feasible. I know from the other tests of summer tires that I should expect the PS4S to do poorly in cold wet but it would be nice to see how much worse than the PS AS 4 it really is.

@ganzonomy

2 жыл бұрын

@@rkcrlr7319 once the temperature goes below 32°, the pilot sport 4s traction falls off a cliff. Get the all season version for your safety and everyone else's.

@rkcrlr7319

2 жыл бұрын

@@ganzonomy Do you have any links to support that? When Tyre Reviews did some cold dry brake testing on summer and all-season tires they stated that the all-season and summer curves were converging at 0C and they expected that to continue for lower temperatures. I was expecting the PS4S to be similar to other summer tires in that respect but I'd like to see actual results.

Great comparison and video. Thanks for the endless hard work.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I bought the X-Ice Snow because of your reviews! Thank you!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Let me know how you find them!

My MOST memorable driving moments……. The first time driving unaccompanied after passing my test 🥳 My first drive of a fast car 😈 My first Nurburgring lap 🏁 And….. My first drive on brand new winter tyres in deep / packed snow ☃️ My BMW 130i was UNSTOPPABLE and I could take the hill roads to dodge the jams. I’ve never felt so smug in my life 🙊😂

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

It's such a good feeling!

It is astonishing how close all season tires are performing in the snow compared to dedicated winter tires these days. As I live in a state where we do see blizzards bringing in 12~18 inches of snow, but we also see a lot of sunny but cold and dry winter days, I'm considering all season tires for my winter wheels next time. One question I do have, is how do these all seasons perform in the snow if they are at half of tread remaining? I have heard of some all season tires that only perform well in snow for the first 2/32~4/32nds then the snow grip drops off very quickly.

@alansach8437

2 жыл бұрын

All weathers are becoming the new all seasons. I've heard good things about them, but think I will stick to dedicated winter tires for now. I might consider them for my summer tires though. I always worry about those early season snows (sometimes we'll get a storm as early as September), before I've put on the winter tires; or a late season storm after I've taken them off. Having all weather tires on there during the summer would make me rest easier.

Great follow up video I would love to see, same tires in summer conditions! Great video, I subscribed!

Amazing video. Thank you to Jonathan/Tyre reviews, after studying your website and videos I went for a set of Hankook Kinergy 4S2 all-seasons. So far they have been a superb upgrade and I'm mighty impressed with the modern all-season tyres!

Comparison with the CrossClimate2 would have been perfect! I would consider the Pilot AS4 but they’re not “winter rated” like the CrossClimate2

I would have loved to see where a Pilot Alpine 5 sits in this test. I would never need to use the X-Ice Snow, but I'd like to see if I should go for an all-season or a "normal" winter tire.

@vollcare4076

2 жыл бұрын

If you consider it for winter purpose only then you should consider the European all season (cross climate2) and not this US all season as these are a lot weaker in the snow as the real European all season

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

It would be much closer to the X-Ice Snow than the PSAS4

Appreciate the review. I just got a set of Michelin X ice for my Mazda 3 Turbo. I'm excited to take them for a drive on snow when it starts snowing

Rear view from inside while drifting on the snow handling circuit is super cool! Please keep it in the next videos too 😍

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Noted!

Alright I've been waiting for this one! I'm thinking about switching my Miata RF's oem summers to a set of Pilot Sport AS4s year round. I live in the Boston area and most people get away with American all seasons around here.

@limejuice9483

2 жыл бұрын

Oh cool, tell me if this works out. I'm running the Kleber Krisalp on my RF in the winter and I really don't like the feel of them.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah let us know if you make the change!

@KZcheese

2 жыл бұрын

​Update now that I've got them on: I've gotten past the 500ish miles of wear in and have driven a bit in light snow. It's definitely still an all season. Super competent if you're just trying to get by in light snow, and will confidently keep up with traffic, but definitely not the kind of tire to go winter rallying on. Doesn't really hold up to hard driving in snow. I'd imagine anything deep enough to push the car around or test ground clearance would be hard. More than good enough for the weather out here, since I don't need to go commuting in the middle of a storm and we have good plowing. On pavement it's a good tire. I get a bit less feel than the stock Bridge S001 but it's a much more competent, smooth, and confidence inspiring tire. Especially in the wet. It's clearly not a UHP Summer tire, but it's extremely impressive considering this works in all temperatures. The stock Bridgestone's always felt a bit oddly hard and stiff to me, so this is quite a bit more natural, but does emphasize the Miata's tendency to glide over the road. The AS4 fits my use case well.

Excellent video. Really hope to see a comparison between winter tires and all-weather tires like X-Ice Snow/CrossClimate 2

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I hope to do one!

Great video. I made the choice for AS3+ (previous gen tire) because I wanted all around performance, which you demonstrated here. If I still lived in a place with significant snowfall, then I would still rotate between summer/winter. I don't anymore and this 1 tire gives me everything I need in 1 package with minimal compromises. Thanks again for the thorough testing.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them, if you ever get time to review that would be great! www.tire-reviews.com/Tire/Michelin/Pilot-Sport-All-Season-3-Plus.htm

Excellent info as usual! Great stuff!

Awesome test! Do you have any similar comparison for summer temperatures? I know a lot of people use winter tyres all year, since it's cheaper than changing it. I would really like to see, how dangerous winter tyres become at 30 °C and beyond.

@imsbvs

2 жыл бұрын

Also how much more quickly they wear out! I have used winter tyres in "milder" conditions and they stopping distance dry & wet was longer.

@BigUriel

2 жыл бұрын

I would assume that winter tyres would still perform fairly well, but they'd wear out very fast because they'd get so soft.

@andrejgrebenc6876

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigUriel It comes down to glass-transition temperature. Tyre needs to be in correct temperature range to have grip. A lot of summer tyres in winter tests were done, but not a lot of winter tyres in summer. I have heard that if you take it to the limit, it is like you are driving on oil since rubber starts flowing.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

If you look at some of the all season and winter tests on the channel, they have summer references tyres in which gives you an idea, though this years winter test was at a low temperature last years alls eason test was tested at 30c+ in dry and wet

@andrejgrebenc6876

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Thank you for the reference, I had a look and the difference seems quite substantial, not from the time itself but from the comments about driver feel. Also, tested winter tyre was Goodyear's, I can only imagine how much worse a budget one would preform.

Loving tests like these! I might be repeating myself, but why aren't UHP all season tyres like the PSAS4 available in Europe? It seems like a good idea to drive on them during spring-summer-autumn, especially during the crossover around freezing temperatures, and then switch to real winter tyres when the heavy snowfall and -10°C hits. Also there's a mistake at 7:08 and 11:47, the difference between winter and all season is 31,82 s if the lap times are correct.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Laptimes incorrect, my bad. Previously the UHP AS don't have the wet grip needed for europe but maybe this will change in the future

I just discovered your channel totally by chance thanks to KZread's algorithm and that was an amazing video. Excellent review, you did a great job. Thanks for that review

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Excellent review and really nice drone shots!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Would be great to see these tires on wet hot asphalt

I knew what the difference was years ago as living in Ottawa Ontario Canada we get fake spring sometimes and had a set of all season and winter tires then in the spring switched to new rims with UHP summer tires and had a small amount of snow for a couple days. That was the scariest thing driving with no traction but in the warmer weather was phenomenal. Ever since that experience i will only use all season on a daily driver. Hats off for this test as i am sure there were some moments that were freaky.

Finaly a good review again. Keep going.

Premium summertyre vs mid range all season vs lowcost wintertyre in the snow?

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Winter tyre should still win. They're usually trash in the wet

@Waybeyond

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Yup. I still have Fulda KC HP2 (and they're medium range, not budget) that I got with the car and they're a bit average yet predictable in wet. However, in real snow they can climb and stop surprisingly good, easily outperforming a couple of premium models I personally favor. Still I won't stick to them with the next buy, as I need more all-rounded tyre on this car, being used in around the city, European conditions most of the time. The 'snow oriented' Fulda doesn't perform so good in there, and I prefer shorter braking in the wet for ca. 100 days around the city rather than having superb snow performance during those 5-7 days a year ;) When we pay for premium all-season or winter we get something that should be more predictable and fit for purpose, so to put it :) Your test also showed exactly how I feel about the tyres, so thanks again for that and keep up with this hobby (aka. job).

A test for people who don't want to change their tyres in the winter: Which summertyre is the best in the snow and wet cold temperatures?

@kruemelfelix

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't want to change your tyres you are either living in a region without snow or are dumb or you have really good all-season tyres. Never ever drive with summer tyres in the winter, this test is not needed.

@dilysi156

2 жыл бұрын

@Sebastian Gode well actually here in Belgium, we have like max 10 days of snow per year, and we use salt to make it melt on the roads. So the worst case is approx 1 day of snow. When we have snow, because some years we literally don't have any. Switching to wintertyres is imo useless in Belgium for these reasons. 4 season tyres eventually but still they offer some disadvantages as well. So I repeat the question : which summer tyre is the best in de snow? Ps: I just try to give Jonathan some inspiration for the content of next videos. You don't have to call me dumb for that.

@alankingchiu

2 жыл бұрын

I think the video already answered your question. If you don’t want to change tires, all weather is your best bet. Summer tires are for, as their name suggest, works in summer temperatures.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

No summer tyres are good in the snow! Maybe at a push the RainSport series due to the tread pattern, but there won't be much in it!

@dilysi156

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews thank you for the constructive answer! 😀 And keep up the good work. Always interesting to see these comparisons even if I change tyres once in 3 years approximately aha

The all season tyre was unbelivable. Another awsome video.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Another amazing video. Thank you mate! You're an unsung hero

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

How much closer to the winter tyre is the cross climate 2? I’m guessing around 1:30 lap time would be reasonable to assume? I plan on buying them in the next few weeks, I predicted the summer tyre would struggle to make it to the track no wonder Uk roads are mayhem when it snows

@DashCamSerbia

2 жыл бұрын

CC2 are winter certified, PS ASS 4 are not (3 peak montain and snowflake symbol), so they should do even better. I have CC2, but have not driven them in snow yet.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's reasonable guess

@PvMLad

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews would love to see the data! I bet it's closer between the CC2 and PSAS4 than people think.

Pilos as4 is american all season (dont have 3pmsf simbol). I would love to see crossclimate 2 in the mix.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Future video planned :D

@GneX4Ktb

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews can't wait!

@GneX4Ktb

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews also it would be awesome if you could compare CC2 with some low/medium budget winter tyres in winter conditions

Been waiting for this PAS4 vs snow tire snow test! Didn't expect the PS4S comparison though, lol!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta make that point about summer tyres!

Another great test keep on your great work. Congrats

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Is that car front engine RWD? Answer: YES it is. Front engine RWD (often BMW) are always the first cars to get stuck in the snow. Would be a different result in a Quattro. 😀

@maxima3l

2 жыл бұрын

On this site you can find test with 4wd and summertires on snow. Not so different as you would hope for.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

The gaps would be smaller with AWD but still there! In fact the summers might be even scarier!

Most BMW drivers in Eastern Europe: What do you mean, don't use summer tyred on snow?!

Great comparison video. Helped me make a decision in the MPAS4 driving in Canadian weather, some of the most extreme road conditions.

Absolutely brilliant review!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@7:08 - sack the mathematician

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

THE WINTER TIRE LAPTIME IS MEANT TO BE 1.23.91. The differences are correct. Don't worry, I just sacked myself.

@waynedl99

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews no, the channel would suck without you :)

Good breakdown. I have PS4S tires, and was considering getting some winter tires for the snow.

A huge smile start to finish. love it, thank you ( living as far south west as you can in the UK Im grateful we only get one or perhaps if we're unlucky two days snow in any winter.)

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Really fun watch man. Thanks. Was curious how much different my A/S were from the summer in snow and this drove the point home for sure! lol. Now I need a comparison in dry and wet.

Great test thanks. This is exactly why having all season or winter tyres is compulsory in Germany when it gets snowy. Before this was law I remember trying to drive just to the next town on summer tyres after a snow fall. I couldn't get safely round a roundabout even at walking pace.

I was thinking about getting a set of 16'' OZ Crono HT for my A3, as a third set with Barum all season tyres, to be a backup set when I go to middle of nowhere. This video was really helpful, I'm pulling a trigger on all season tyres.

PS4S's on my 370z... stayed at a hotel at the Grand Canyon, walked out to the car at 5am, freak snow storm hit, 2-4" of snow... Ended up going 20-25mph for > 2 hours, white knuckle the entire way down to williams. Never again!! just the SLIGHTEST change in throttle input = car goes sideways, that's even just slightly taking foot off gas too. These were pretty well worn ps4s's as well... Just got new ones, however, I think next time, I'm going all seasons... Thanks for the great show!

Great information. Definitely going with the PS A/S 4's for my winter tire.

Great review! I’m planning on getting the all seasons 4 for the spring

I have a set of the PS AS4 on my Chevy Bolt. I use them as a 3 season tire and they work brilliantly for that, substantially better grip than the stock Michelin eco tires. I have a set of winter tires for the snow. Aside from rolling resistance, the AS4 tires are absolutely brilliant for a daily driver. I’ve even used them on a track day and while a summer or track specific tire would have obviously been better, they still have excellent grip and they weren’t destroyed at the end of the day. I’ve not used them in the snow since I have dedicated winter tires for that, but they are excellent in cold weather and rain. My only gripe about them is that I see about a 10-15% drop in efficiency versus the stock eco tires, which is a bit painful since most of my driving is highway commuting, but the increased confidence in the rain and the improved safety to be able to stop and steer (especially in the rain) make up for it. It’s also good to know that if I got surprised by the snow, I wouldn’t be totally screwed either (something than many American “all-season” tires cannot say). It would be good to see how the AS4 compares to the Crossclimate in dry, wet and snow as well, since that may be a tire that some people are cross shopping.

Superb Jonathan for this test !! It show us, how important is to choose the right tire !!! Greetings from Barcelona :=)

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

thank you :)

I’m running the Pilot Sport A/S 4,s on my 2018 Challenger R/T Scatpack and couldn’t agree more with you on how amazing these tires are!

wonderful video ive been looking for

Just got myself a set of x ice snows Glad to see they perform so well!

Thanks for the comparison. Now I have a clearer picture about the performance of the PS4S in snow...

I learned this lesson the hard way many years ago when I got caught in a freak fall sleet storm with summer tires. I could only manage a few mph by keeping the passenger side tires in the gravel. When I got to a bridge where the gravel ended, I had to wait until there was no traffic and then white-knuckle it (once I spun around mid-bridge and wasn't sure I was going to be able to get safely off). When I finally made it to an exit (fortunately it had a hotel just off the highway) and the weather was really getting bad, I tried to get the car into a parking spot. It was one of those places with lower center driveway and drainage spots, with the parking spaces at a slight incline 90-degrees to the driveway. I finally got into one and came to a stop. The car slid backward (with my foot on the brake) into the driveway, and then partly rotated to align with the driveway. I got to a place where it seemed safe to just parallel park (no parking spot) and asked the hotel management if I could just leave it there (explaining what happened). No kidding about being scary! That few miles took me like 3 hours of terror. I was just wrecked by the time I collapsed into bed. The next day, I found some ugly rims and all-seasons that were a pretty close match for the car at a local big-box store for the rest of the journey and trip back (I was many hours from home-base). Night and day, and they weren't even winter/snow tires. The modern X-Ice I now have, combined with AWD on my car (the one above was RWD), are almost another night and day, but like this video, not nearly the gap that getting trapped with summer tires in cold/snow/ice is.