You have to give Fuji kudos for pushing boundaries in their niche and finding ways to avoid direct conflict with the big 3 camera makers, smart business model, "move where the enemy is not" a tenant of Kung Fu I studied for many years. I recently went shopping for a corvette and visited a dealership with the state's largest inventory of corvettes, as the salesman walked out to the lot I said just show me the ones with manual transmissions, he replied "oh but the automatics are so good today they shift faster and better than you can manually" I replied "I am buying a corvette to see if I am still good and test myself I already know the car is good before I ever stepped foot in your shop" I think the x-pro3 is for people who want to test themselves not the camera, mostly all the cameras you can buy today are excellent and will get the job done, the "fault lies not in the stars but in ourselves" 💖

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful contribution to the discussion - thank you!

@billycullen6832

4 жыл бұрын

Superb comment and you are so correct!

@sundarAKintelart

4 жыл бұрын

Yes... Sometimes I wonder why all this rat race... I am not a military man in a life critical mission, needing "100- rounds- a -second " gun... Anyway, as human as human we are, some of us want to take a pause and ponder/ introspect why all this... Some of us do that in every art form right from music, car, etc... May be some of us want to control the machines that try to take control over us or, we try to control machines that we make... Or may be, just a musing, we feel enough is enough... Analogous way of our human life is torn into " bit, byte and pieces"....

The Jeff Goldblum of photography

@demetrio3d239

4 жыл бұрын

I was about to type that. haha.

@cashmoney9256

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@rickeycarter

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@pandak1n

4 жыл бұрын

100%

@thiagobnla

4 жыл бұрын

I was gonna say that! gotta love'im

Hey Hugh, your script reminds me of the papers I wrote for class at Pitt. Boy memories I tell you. 1985-89 those were the days indeed. Keep em coming. Love your style.

Great video! Can’t wait to test drive this thing and find out if it is the camera I’ve been waiting for.

For overhead photography, you can hold the camera upside down.

@jonathans.9372

24 күн бұрын

This is very reminiscent of the waist level finders... For concerts photography I'll hold my F2 upside down with the viewfinder removed :)

The magic is the one take audio dialog, engaging and excellently delivered!

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Tiffin 🙏🏻😊

Thank you so much for your eliquent analysis. I can hardly wait for your photo plus evaluations.

I find it interesting with today's unbelievably fast cameras that there are enough photographers out there that want to slow down a bit and enjoy a Retro Style yet fully modern camera. Manufacturers working with photographers for decades have created the extraordinary modern camera. Speed of controls, blazingly fast and accurate auto focus and ISO flexibility etc.. along with high frame rates, WiFi connectable and the absolutely phenominal ability to review your images or see in real time if you captured the moment! The industry for years successfully eliminated ISO Dials, Shutter Speed Dials and Aperture Rings from cameras, moving them under your fingertips for instant change. Then they utilized that now barren real estate with secondary controls in which most can still be changed without the need of removing your shooting hand from the grip or moving your eye away from the viewfinder. DSLRs like EOS-1DX II or the Nikon D5s are like wizard wands in the right hands. Cameras Like the Sony A9 are truly magical in operation and with what you can get out of them. I am forever grateful that we have such tools. Yet, cameras like the Fuji XT3, X-Pro 3 or Olympus Pen F exist for the pure enjoyment of photography. Lets hope that never changes.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for such a thoughtful contribution!

@michaels8597

4 жыл бұрын

There's this thing going on that everything new is better,and that's a LIE.That also has not resulted in more camera sales,nor even smartphone sales.There's a fine line between needing more, and having enough already,and we seem to be there.In other words,yes I want some tech,yet I also want to slow it down,compose,and use the old and new,to make even greater art..It's the same thing with shooting and then post.If you shoot great in camera unless there's a NEED to do a lot of post,you just do not have to,period.No matter what you put inside cameras,they cannot replicate having an eye,an artistic side,and bending rules randomly..

@youngalwyn1124

4 жыл бұрын

Bradley Zimmerman - Amen!

@rumporridge1

4 жыл бұрын

Well said brother.

@alonzowigfall190

4 жыл бұрын

Just as there is two main types of surfers ' the slashers ripping up a wave and the soul surfers grooving on what the wave gives them. Fuji's system is like the Soul Surfer. It let's you enjoy the ride. That's how I feel about it.

In this digital age of glass screens and algorithmic photography, I've always enjoyed that Fuji strives to give me something analog, at least in some fashion, in their cameras. I want to fall for competitors equipment, I want to be swayed by higher megapixels, perfect eye tracking, dynamic range, or some other statistic of the moment. But every time I pick something else up, I feel like I'm using an appliance more than a beloved tool. I don't make money from photography. I've no client's to please, or deadlines to fulfill. I make sure the practice of taking pictures occupies a space as far away from those concerns as possible; and photography for me needs to be enlightening, inspirational, challenging, and most of all...fun. This new Fuji looks to be just that.

@hukumongdu

Жыл бұрын

so beautifully said!

As someone who shoots mostly film these days, the Xpro3 is absolutely what I'm looking for without paying an insane price for something like the Leica M10-D

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

엘리엇 I hear you!

@dangerpowers123

4 жыл бұрын

Me too

cant wait to hear your offiical review of the XPro3 once you get it.

Thanks man. Excellent review (and I seriously needed to see something "excellent" right now)!

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

🥰🖖🏻👍🏻

for overhead, flip camera upside-down and press shutter with the thumb on the left hand? assuming the camera has the ability to rotate the image 180.

@kevin_stenhouse

4 жыл бұрын

Back when I had my Mamiya C330 TLR I would do this on a regular basis. The more I look at the X-PRO# the more I want one.

THX-1138 is one of my all-time favorites! Thanks for referencing.

I just got the XT 3 in February. Which I really enjoy so I’m don’t think I’ll upgrade. But this one has me excited

Thanks for the rationale and measured commentary, especially in light of all the vitriol that has dominated the discussion around the X-Pro3 following the reveal about the screen design and D pad removal. Like you, I'm most interested in what the improvements in the EVF/OVF have to offer, and whether there are incremental but significant advances in other aspects of the camera that improve the joy that I experience shooting with my X-Pro2, which by the way, will still be a fantastic camera the day after the X-Pro3 goes on sale. And thanks again for all your insightful and thought provoking posts!

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Steven Grauer my pleasure. 😊

All I know is that Titanium is very difficult to work with so that will immediately transfer to increased cost. However to counter that magnesium is very brittle and when used in thin walled applications can be easily cracked. So using titanium could mean having a thinner walled body than an equivalent magnesium one that could with clever machining and or casting be made to be lighter and more durable. On the other hand titanium could be used to add a certain cachet and make the camera more desirable. Guess we’ll have to patient and wait.

Great reviews. Really great presentation. You're daytime television ready.

@3BMEP

2 жыл бұрын

😉🙏🏻🖖🏻

This would make my life better.... If I had your truly amazing voice and talking style ! User of Fuji cameras here, waiting for this new X-Pro iteration.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

😎🙏🏻

Hugh, on my X100F, I use the optical viewfinder with focus in "M" mode. Put the square on the subject, press the back button for an instant until the square turns green, recompose, and think about the picture instead of focus until you or the subject moves. That's very, very close to the Leica experience. It's a button push instead of lining up the rangefinder. But the rangefinder doesn't really tell you anything that the green square doesn't. They're both totally arbitrary constructs that help you measure the distance to the subject. I assume the same technique will work on the X-Pro.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

I’ll have to give that a try! Thanks!

The EVF/OVF is important to me as well. I would love to have a bright frame for the 16mm range. And eye relief for the VF in general. If this is not provided then the XP3 might not be a good fit since reliance on VF will be more critical for usage. I would love to see my primes work on the XP3 like they do on the XT3.

It’s dangerous for my wallet... 😅 I was waiting for a camera like that for long time. Ticks all the boxes for my taste here : - compact size and weight (not too big) - rangefinder style - tilting screen (don’t like side full articulated ones) - good viewfinder (especially for glasses wearers) - Apsc or bigger Only few tick my boxes : Leica CL and M10-p (loved them since I have the opportunity to try them in a Leica store, but very pricey and no tilting screen), Fuji GFX50R (except the size and price) and now, the X pro 3 is just beyond my expectations ! This screen, always protected and just tilt the way I like. And a small settings screen, brilliant ! Love it. I will watch the October announcement very very carefully... 😍

@obscur_yoann

4 жыл бұрын

I am searching a camera to have with me all the time... Like T.Overgaard’s leitmotif : "always wear a camera". An this Fuji fits perfectly with that. The titanium body helps too. Always looking at and almost buy the Xpro 1 and 2 but every time I am holding them, that small keyhole viewfinder kept me away... Now let see in October with the new one. I am just a little afraid of the price... Titanium usage mean lots of complex and expensive working.

@pjeno007

4 жыл бұрын

Yoann Panda ditto. I’ve graduated slowly from an X10 (I loved it so much), to the X70 (bought the sweet OVF hot shoe accessory, and wide & telephoto lenses), then the X-A3. Missed having an OVF that actually worked with focus confirmation and a hinged LCD. Finally able to jump to the X-Pro3!

For overhead shots... turn the camera upside down.

This Video is 3 years old but still valid. I bought the Xpro in 2023, bought the old fuji character lenses, saved a couple of my fav film recipes in camera. Sold my M10 and M6. I can shot everything with this system. From clean, sharp "professional" images to pictureres which are deliver my style, the look and feel i like straight out of cam. I dont miss full frame and i sleep kind of well with additional 7k on my bank account and I dont need to buy overpriced film and spent much money on developing and scanning 35mm.

You sound like you're the narrating voice in Grand Budapest Hotel and I love it so much !

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻😊

It's good to see that you didn't not use un-clickbait. 🤓

I had such joy shooting the x-pro2. Gave it up though, due to the viewfinder. I’m left-eyed with my shooting, and the viewfinder left my nose smudged against the back all the time. The other thing I didn’t like too much was the new double dial. So the x-t2 and x-h1 remain my preferred cameras. If my right eye was working well, though, I’d still buy one. I don’t know about the low-end cameras but their top end cameras always inspire me. I’ll never stop desiring a full frame Fuji, though. Preferably 4/3. It’ll never happen, but still... it passes a pleasant quarter hour to muse upon... with a mocha in a nice cafe.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Jagrajagra Left -eye dominance and an X-Pro anything don’t really go - just as true for rangefinder and rangefinder style cameras generally. 🖖🏻

Just wondering I shoot ground level, eye level and especially above head to capture crowded dance floors. Im all over the place when capturing weddings Why do you think its not good for over head shooting? Does the back screen only open up 90 degrees? I thought it would be at least 180 degrees and maybe slightly more?

I have very mixed feelings about this. I don't like the idea of a company forcing a decision to purchased based on shooting style of a photographer. This design is so unique I feel they have already called into question whether you as a shooter can accept this idea. That design forces a decision that shouldn't be there. That will effect sales. I don't see how that can be seen as a good thing. Yes, yes I get the idea that you're supposed to shoot now, edit later... but that idea will necessarily cut out a large part of someone who might have been "XPro3 curious". The rest of the camera I'm not sure is really that much of an improvement. Yes, it's better than the XPro2 of course it must be just because it will have a new chip... blah, blah, new film sims, blah. But really when it comes down to it, the real (only) news here is the screen idea. Well, they've done their job. Lots more people are talking about this camera than might have before had they just released a straight-forward upgrade to the XPro2. I love my XPro1. I'm a part time news/sports shooter for local newspapers and former staff photographer at a number of papers including the San Francisco Examiner so my basis for expectations for camera gear is based on being a editorial shooter. I work quickly on assignment. While I'm shooting I need to see frames I've just shot so I can check focus, framing, lighting, white balance, etc... this camera design gets in the way of that workflow. I don't know any news shooter who doesn't "chimp" between frames on assignment. They (I) need that information quickly because this is a tool. A tool needed not based on our own "I can take my time and I don't need to know if I've gotten the shot" self-centered needs. It's a pragmatic job... I need to shoot and move on. This camera design gets in the way of that. And especially since the size of this body and associated benefit to a news shooter... it's small and unobtrusive-which means the subject is less likely to react to me and therefore i'm MUCH more likely to get valuable photos because of the range-finder-like design I find it doubly sad/annoying that I now it doesn't make sense for me to buy this camera. I recently switched to the Fuji system from Canon based on the form follows function benefits of the XPro1 rangefinder design. I've been waiting to see if what camera I should buy next to add to my gear. I have the X-H1 and XPro1. I wanted to get the newest XPro body and hoped that I would be able to benefit of the current focus system and newest chip design. Now... what am I left as options? I can get a last generation XPro2 which would be good enough... but... well, I'm disappointed I have to settle for good enough. I wanted the XPro3 so I could take advantage of Fujis (what I perceived to be) forward thinking design. But they're very much looking backwards here. I lived through the era of shooting film on assignment during the early part of my career as a staff news photographer. I lived through staffing up the SF Examiner and I bought all the gear for the paper when it was reformed in 2001. I've always tried to moved towards new technology. A screen on the back of a camera so you can see what you just got isn't just a frivolous thing. It's not a luxury. It's a VERY helpful development for a news shooter.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Slot Car News Official a wonderful addition to the conversation - thank you. Of course, with an EVF you can always see what you’ve done by looking through the finder - which is what I do when I need to with a Leica M10-D (with Visoflex Typ 020 attached). But I am not an editorial shooter nor an event shooter, so I doubly appreciate your perspective! 🙏🏻

@Calveeeenoo

4 жыл бұрын

I'm torn. I just dropped my X-Pro 2 and the shutter release popped off, certainly not up to the durability standards of a press photographer, but I feel that the features of the X-Pro 3 would make it a perfect secondary camera. As you said, it's unobtrusive and lightweight, which is impossible with DSLR systems. That already is a huge plus to me. It opens up a world where people aren't reacting to your freakishly huge DSLR. It's also silent which means you don't have to carry around a blimp. On the other hand, one would have to buy a complete other set of lenses ... well, I've already got a couple. And to your point about being able to review your photos, the X-Pro series feels like a tool that is a little more intimate, what a chisel is to a hammer, or a paint roller to a brush. During portraits, I'm not checking my screen for my exposure because I can see the results in the OVF. My face isn't obscured and I'm maintaining interaction with the subject. And the rangefinder body just looks dope. DSLR's can't be beat in news gathering, they're reliable, but this little camera might be the key to access in some situations. You walk into a room with a chunky DSLR and lenses, you're instantly flagged as press. You walk in with one of these, and you might be able to get something different.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Calvin Alagot thanks for such a nice addition to the convo!

@rumporridge1

4 жыл бұрын

Calvin Alagot I’ve been thrown out of venues cause of my Canon 5D4 with the 70-200mm attached. Not a good feeling at all. And totally inconspicuous with my Fuji Xpro1 with a prime. I think lately people are even more hostile to photographers than ever before.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Column Wheel you may be right.

Hugh thank you for the insight to this particular camera. I am interested in it and the potentially new xpro 4. So again thank you.

@3BMEP

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. 😊🖖🏻

Lovely as always 👍🏼

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

genoddd444 Thanks!

I think that camera is going to make a big impact in a good way

This camera with the new 16 / 80 mm f4 can be a real winner. Adding all the features for street photography.

@tappersreviews4677

4 жыл бұрын

The 16-80 looks like a great zoom, but not sure it's a great fit for the X-Pro series, i.e. will probably block a decent part of the OVF field of view. Unless, of course, you don't use the OVF feature much.

@cesarebonazza

4 жыл бұрын

Tapper's Reviews I will check it out I’m a Canon user. I really like that combination as small platform. Thank you for let me know.

@tappersreviews4677

4 жыл бұрын

@@cesarebonazza For sure the 16-80 will work fine with X-Pro, but you'd probably want to use EVF mode with it. OVF works best with small primes because they don't block the FOV much.

Ps. When people tear into why Fuji isn't doing IBIS or all the other things that Sony does - I tell them that Fuji is tending more to the photography side than video. Just that

@DaveHaynie

4 жыл бұрын

Someone from Fujifilm a few years back claimed that IBIS wasn't going to fit in their existing models, and they also seemed to have some issues with the relative size of the lens mount flange. Clearly the X-H1 is relatively large, but I tend to doubt that explanation, given that the X-Mount mouth is only 2.1mm smaller than Sony's E-Mount and Sony's got IBIS in their FF cameras.

What advantages does the hidden lcd have other than take a walk back in time?

I own the x pro2. I use the screen on the back quite often to shoot with and it will probably keep me from getting the xpro3. I can understand why film shooters will love it. It does alienate those that wanted an upgrade to their already loved bodies though.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

capturedbyannamarie Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🙏🏻

THX 1138. I saw what you did there!

Great news. Push the price down for us Xpro -1 fans 😎

I'm just happy Fuji is getting a chance to flex. 💪

See you next week at the Photowalk. Taking the XT-3 with the 18-55mm

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

San Francisco Discovery 👌🏻💯

I have GOT to buy a “Hold that thought” tee shirt! Erm, hold that thought.... I just bought one :)

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Jez I AM we’ve got em!

@Jez2008UK

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP I know I just bought one :)

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

🥰

Another great video

Excellent video

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻

I have 6 cameras & I’ll learn to make the best of out of them before I want to buy a new camera. I love your video quality like I mentioned earlier, the video looks like I’m sitting in front of you in person. Super quality- maybe Z7 is my next camera.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Gokul Rao Kadam Great point! 👍🏻 Separately: I am digging the Z7 w their Z 50/1.8!!

I was expecing you to tell us the camera busts into flames and spews poison gas, total bait and switch :)

I’m a amateur photographer, just doing this as a hobby. But I would like to own a Xpro3.

@DaveHaynie

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kev2Bee I just bought a used X-Pro1 for around $300... crazy low price for such a camera, but I suppose it is a bit unusual. I don't have any actual Fujifilm lenses yet... that's a bit more of an investment, but I'm having some fun with adapted 39mm lenses and I did buy one all manual lens for $80. I've been into Olympus for six years, and for a long while found Fujifilm the only other really interesting system for my needs. With the recent assurance that Olympus is not planning a Pen F II, this seemed a worthy experiment. While I have had several Fujifilm X-series P&S models, I'm still more or less getting aclimated to the Fujifilm way for this camera... and for a camera nerd like me, that's fun!

I love your tendency to analyze into the in-depth methods and meanings of photography, and to cut through to the things that matter. “Fujifilm is serving a different target market.” I think that simple fact is so key here. It seems there are a lot of comments spilling forth across the internet from people who a) expect the X-Pro3 to be a camera for everyone, and b) think that they are themselves representative of “everyone.” Fuji has designed a camera that is appealing to a particular type, and isn’t overly concerned if customers exist with preferences that fall outside this camera’s target, or even if the majority of potential customers are likely to not find this particular model ideal for their methodology. Hopefully enough will. And that kind of assessment and targeting of a market is good business: they’ve made a product that’s truly distinct rather than incrementally different from a dozen others. Ignoring the people who demand everything for everyone in every product is good business. “They don’t want you to use it as often as most photographers do theirs.” I think Fuji is seeing Leica’s bold move and realizing there is a worthwhile market for cameras that place more distance between the digital and the photography. But to some extent, as you suggest, they might also be hoping to evangelize a little and encourage some towards a more focused approach. More than most major brands, I get the impression that Fuji really loves photography and wants to serve it well. Personally, though this camera is beyond my reach, I feel like it was more or less designed for me, or my “type” at least. Years ago I “downgraded” (not really) from a bigger Canon to a Nikon D5100, and one of the things I LOVED about it, and still enjoy when I do use it, is that its flip screen can be left hidden until needed for review or settings changes. I could have just left the screen off while shooting, as I do now with my Fujis, but something about having a step between me and the screen felt very focusing, in addition to the comfort of knowing the screen is tucked away from belt buckles and zippers. Screens are obviously useful in digital photography, but I think hidden screens are beneficial to the process of photography, at least for my “type,” which Fuji seems to be recognizing here.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

SaturnNyne thanks for such a well-considered contribution to the discussion! 🙏🏻

What camera did you use to film this episode. And also I have batteries for both the Panasonic GH5 and GH5s. As I want to do some short films.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

We always lost the gear we used in the notes below the video. This one - like many recently - was shot on a Nikon Z7 with the Z 50/1.8. GREAT combo!

I’d get one just for that simulated film box thingy!😂

if the XH-2 drops with a flip-forward screen and bigger battery i'm going ALL IN on fujifilm

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Eric the Watcher I hear you!

In a pinch if you need overhead shot with new flip screen design, just turn camera upside down and shoot. Issue solved.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Trev Hill Photography Doable, yes. Desirable, not so much - but thanks!

Regarding overhead shooting (caveat...I've never done this myself!), could you not hold the camera face down, meaning the fold down screen would be visible.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Would require shooting with one's thumb. Doable, yes. Ideal, not so much. :)

So I have the X-Pro1 and xe2, love them both. My x100 is broken and I was thinking of replacing it with the x100V instead of the xpro3? My reasoning is I love the xpro1 and feel it has a very unique image so I may not be happy with the pro III. My thinking regarding the 100V is that it is sealed and I NEVER have to worry about dust on the sensor. I would love your feedback.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Well, you already have interchangeable lenses with the X-E3...

I owned the Sony 6500. Then I had the opportunity to shoot with a Fuji X-E3 and an X-Pro2. Since I knew immediately, there is only Fuji for me. Better picture quality, lenses and operation than Sony. Fuji is a philosophy and has character. The concept of direct dialing is unique and priceless.

Great insight Hugh! What would you pick this or the Leica Q2?

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Patrick Hao at the moment, Q2. But that might be because a) I already have a CL; or b) I haven’t yet had an X-Pro3 in hand. 😈

@patrickhao8473

4 жыл бұрын

Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions 😂😂 held the q2 and it was just lovely. Need to check this is person to see and feel the new Ti body. Thanks for the awesome video!

Totally agree to all you said and yes the improved viewfinder apart from better build quality - dangerous as you said. But wait as the Fuji reps said, this camera is about taking pictures - do I need to replace my xpro2 as I still using the xpro1? Probably not.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed: if you like what you’ve got, stick with it!

Titanium can be alloyed with Aluminium and vanadium to make a material that is as light weight as Aluminum but as strong as Steel.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

RagingBubuli Thanks for the additional info!

These are the kinds of videos on why I started watching your vids in the first place~ I already unsubscribed from alot of channels that just headed into talking about new gear all the time :/

I Love the idea , It is a Great u technical downgrades is actually upgrades in my book , as everyone is throwing in everything Fuji on these line of cameras are throwing out Unnecessary knobs n giblets. I love the idea of getting your eye back into the finder and on creativity. Hugh I hope to upgrade my Patron to higher level this upcoming month 😀, I have to enjoy as much of life as I can as I have failing health and have No camera equipment as I can't afford any on disability as my beloved Nikon equipment was stole in '10 , so I live through you and passionate photraphy brethen , men and woman have the Passion , you brought a smile to my face to an otherwise bad week of not so good of news from Hemotologist. With that I must Thank Claudia and yourself amount the Photraphy community

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Harry burnett 😧😔

You can shoot overhead by flipping the camera upside down. I used to do that with my waist level film cameras.

@pjeno007

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff Tokayer well, I guess so, but why when the screen will actually allow you to swing it further down to view it when the camera is raised up.

LOL, kinda knew it was but interested in your view.

Kudos to Fuji for going in a different direction, for not chasing Sony down a rat-hole of spec driven features, but rather saying, "We're going in this direction..." and being something original. That's bold.

Great video. One (ok, two) comment about the XPro3's unique display (which, shockingly, I haven't seen brought up elsewhere): the standard adjustable display, more often than not, is a liability in my street photography. Let me explain. I have two main reasons to use the back display. First, to check settings (if I'm going to chimp, I'll chimp through the EVF where I can really get up-close with the image). Second, to get low-perspective shots or shots I, at 6'4, otherwise can't (and by otherwise I mean almost all). On my X-T2 it's certain every time I go out to shoot it'll get left on and either draw attention to itself or drain the battery. Having the display concealed is like having a safety on a gun. It limits operational downside risks without impairing the camera's functionality for the stated philosophy of use. To use your own words, this further reduces the distance between photographer and intent. /For the stated philosophy of use./ The other thing I find interesting is the message Fujifilm sends to the market. In the past, your choice of Fujifilm body was based on preference: do you like SLR, or do you like rangefinder (and later, do you shoot video)? For all intents and purposes you could easily substitutable one for the other. However, here they've made a deliberate design choices that benefits one customer segment as the expense of all others. This is a street photographer's camera. Full stop. What might this say about a less than hypothetical X-H2? And what kind of deliberate design choices might they make to it benefiting one particular segment over those not currently covered by the X-T3 and XPro3? And the announcement about the 33 f/1.0 being scrapped in favor of a 50 f/1.0... I'm not a betting man. But if I were, I'd say Fujifilm is in the middle of a very large strategic pivot.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Robertson Very thoughtful - thanks for sharing!

There will be 2 prices most likely with the dura coating more expensive. Hopefully they will keep the price at $1599. I have an A9 for studio work but have recently really been enjoying the X Pro1 for fun stuff. I’m going to this crazy Halloween display at Croton on the Hudson and will be taking the Fuji.

As an unashamed Fuji shooter and aficionado - though far from a blind fan boy - and have to give Fuji credit for making the latest version of the X-Pro an evolution of its spirit rather than the just usual morph to more megapixels, a higher frame rate, and better focus speed. Those things look good on the spec sheet but make little practical difference to the audience to whom Fuji has targeted this range since Day 1. Taking the LCD out of the normal composition/review loop is absolutely in sync with that philosophy, and say what you will, the little rear panel status screen in the form of an analog film box top holder is just whimsical enough to avoid being gimmicky, and is a great way to sum up how this camera is to be used. On the topic of rear screens: I chose my X-T1 and X-T2 over the XE- and X-Pro models in part due to their ability to tilt, which I find invaluable in getting low to the ground shots. At 23 I would have been on my belly making those shots; at 53, I’m pleased to bend down and get back up without making any noises. And while I otherwise don’t use the rear screen for composition or reviewing and keep the EVF in “EVF + Eye” mode, I wish Fuji would add an option that would keep composition in the EVF while allowing LCD to come on when you press the Q, Menu, or Playback buttons; trying to navigate the menus when you have your eye to the EVF is inconvenient, and necessitates scrolling through the EVF/LCD combinations too often.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

James Kuzman Thanks for sharing!

Oh man. That rear screen is second only to the M10-D. Maybe even better. I’m in love. And sorta having SONY second thoughts. Thanks Fuji

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

I hear you!

For above crowd shots. Flip the camera upside-down. Flip it in post.

THX1138 niiiiiice that was very well done:-)

@davidhumeart

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!

Superb commercial. Almost convinced to buy by not saying to buy. Perfect.

Hey Hugh, I hope this will clarify why so many are offended by this tilt screen design, bottom paragraph if this is too long: Over the past few days, I've been dismayed with Fuji's decision making, and folks in comments sections tell me that the x-pro series 'wasn't made for me'. This is strange to hear, because I used to be the exact target customer for this line: -I shoot street and events -like a small system, only shoot with primes -loved the grip and ovf of the x-pro2 after less than 20 seconds of handling the camera -prefer a edge-mounted viewfinder and shutter button on top for shooting from the hip -want weather sealing -want faster lenses than what m4/3 can offer -am stunned by what Fuji has been able to achieve with 4k60 video in such a short timeframe, having a good video body along with stills would be a treat only a few things were missing: -tilt screen, I shoot from low and high angles ofter, as well as from the back in the normal position -IBIS, even with a DSLR, I would try to handhold irresponsibly long exposures, nice to have a camera that just lets me do that. Also makes lower isos viable in many situations, effectively giving you more light. Bonus points if the subject blurs a bit, love that effect. So I decided to hold out for the x-pro3 or 4. It is impossible to deny that this screen can't tilt down or be used in the normal position. There is nothing that it does better. A regular tilt screen can be turned off or display a small film reminder. Also the d-pad is gone, and the troublesome iso dial is unchanged. So I'd like to respond to some of the things you said here: 'fuji xpro 3 as doubling down on a concept, the process and joy of taking a photograph' Doubling down is only good if it improves the camera. Consider reading the press releases for the x-pro1 and x-pro2. The first camera was sold on the technical prowess of the system, the AF, the lenses, etc. The second existed in relation to other lines, so the marketing was all about the ovf. It is clear that fuji thinks of the x100, x-e, and x-pro lines as part of the same family, because they gained an af joystick at the same. They all lack a tilt screen for some reason, (probably compactness). So what exactly is Fuji doubling down on with this screen? The fuji product manager repeatedly referred to a night of drinking that brought us this design, and I agree, you'd have to be inebriated to think this was a good idea. He mentioned wanting to remove the screen entirely, stopping just short. He claimed that x-pro shooters were looking at the lcd too often, so this decision is doubling down on a paternalic approach to design. It is reminiscent of 'you're holding it wrong', and removing the headphone jack because of 'courage'. 'encourages you to be the best' No. New gear acquisistion or a body design may give you temporary motivation to shoot, but laziness in photography is a personal problem, not a hardware problem. 'photographic instrument, not a hybrid' Have you tried shooting handheld video with something like an a6000 or panasonic GX85? It's lovely. You can have 3 points of contact with the EVF, and can open the other eye to keep awareness. Almost as if good design for stills is good design for video. 'The x-pro3 announcement is a reaffirmation of Fuji's profound respect for the photographer' Funny you should mention that. Good firmware support and explicit response to feedback gave me that impression before this announcement, but the announcement itself is an insult. Note the catchphrase 'pure photography'. It is an insult to those that regularly switch between lcd and ovf, telling them that shooting that way is artistically impure. Never mind that one doesn't always have time to put the camera to the eye, no LCD for a chance at the shot is bad for all users, especially street shooters. More on this below, but now fuji is playing explicit favorites with who gets to have an ovf. 'no rear panel is statement of intent' Yes. The intent is to separate if from the x-t and x-h line (they said so themselves), not by adding something, but by taking away. It is as if Fuji shooters held the monkey's paw when wishing for a tilt screen and got this. As for the overlap of the lines, that is good for the consumer. The X-E3 and X-T20 are arguably redundant in market positioning, but they offer customers a meaningful choice in body design. 'they don't want you to rear panel as much' That's not their business. It is clear that they got negative feedback from photographers from this in testing, but ignored it. Pay attention the the moment that one of the photographers they brought to the x-summit tried to tilt the screen down above his headk, then gave up. 'kudos to fuji for embracing their inner whimsy' Yes, kudos. That whimsy has GIVEN us the excellent dial control scheme. It has GIVEN the hybrid ovf. One can call this screen whimsical, but it's a step back in functionality. 'I like being reminded of my youth and the joy of discovery' Oof. What can I say. How important is this? I mean, it does nothing for those born after film. 'not being tempted to chimp' You still can, easily. The EVF displays images fine. Once again, if chimping is worsening your photography, don't look to hardware for the solution. Definitely don't ask for a solution that will hurt other x-pro users. 'xt-4 xh-2, will these two lines merge' Gosh, I hope not, for other's sake more than my own. The X-T is cheaper, has all the dials, and has a small, slr-style body. The X-H is made for the heavy lenses in the system, like the 200mm, and for slow-moving DSLR converts, (or those with big hands). 'imply there would be no video whatsoever' Why. Even if the camera overheats, people would still like to use this sensor and processor that they have paid for. Those asking for no video are being so focused on the imagined purity of their own experience that they would gouge at others. I think the x-pro 3 needed an actual body redesign, not this screen. The pull-up iso dial that nobody praised is still there? Did you know that fuji says it takes 21 parts to make? All to emulate another film camera. Yes, it is possible to have all three dials separate, have a look at this concept: www.fujirumors.com/the-perfect-fujifilm-x100f-designed-by-fr-reader-andreas-and-its-ovf-less/ Even if they have to be together, can we have a clutch design? Click up for iso, click down for shutter. The buttons are still small, and some are in the wrong places (placing any button right of the thumb grip is a mistake). You might get the impression that I'm trying for a perfect x-pro for me. Oh no, if I had my way there would be an aperture dial on the body, disrupting the clean line of the top plate. It would have a linear lens turret to enable quick changing between two primes. It would have the x-t100's selfie screen. I'd love it, but it would be a monstrosity that many others will find unusable. That's why I only feel justified asking for stuff that will help, or at least not hurt other users. This is all happening because the x-pro line has acquired 5 user groups simultaneously. Pros like the combo of weather sealing, dual cards, and ovf. Unexpectedly, fashion photographers have come to like the camera's look and feel, Street shooters like something actually designed for their primes. Film nostalgia types like it for obvious reasons. And purists/minimalists like something that gets out of the way, so dials + ovf is a natural fit. Yes pleasing all these groups is hard, but it's possible. This screen helps the latter two groups, but stomps all over the former. So now fuji is only giving the ovf to an narrow slice of customers, the type that will accept further cuts like this uncritically. I can understand liking the idea of this camera, but it offers the tiniest aesthetic considerations, for cutting off actual functionality. Have you tried handing a camera with no screen to someone else for a quick shot? Makes that experience more fiddly and awkward than it already is. And yes, there are many valid reasons for wanting a screen that does the normal position, not just the waist-level one. That's why praising this regression has consequences. It lets camera companies get away with more nonsense, like using this same mechanism on the x100 and x-e series.

Very good content Hugh. I'd love to add an X-Pro_ to my Fuji line up. Even an older version. I have an X100T, X-T20, and X-T2 , all of which I purchased new. . I also have a Nikon D810, and a bunch of old film cameras tat I need to use more! Ha ha.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Baruch Cohen 🙏🏻😊

Hugh, would you really choose the Leica M10-D over the M10 or M10-P, and if so, why?

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Davies I like the homage to the original M all the way down to the rear dial; I like vestigial advance lever paired with the Visoflex - which I need! But I’m rethinking a rear screen after my most recent street shoot: I want the option of sharing the shot immediately with my subject!

@Gynra

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP Thank you Hugh. You make a very good point about sharing the picture.

My X-T10 isn't holding me back, maybe i'll be convinced in time. Nice to see a calm perspective.

@markhou

4 жыл бұрын

Try it with capture one or iridient X transformer.. It's like a new camera! 😍

@TheNealQ

4 жыл бұрын

@@markhou I'll look into those, thanks.

@markhou

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheNealQ Good! I didn't believe it, but they have a way to decode the raw files a lot better.. Allows for more details and easier noise control.

I know that the Xpro3 internals is the same of the XT3, with that in mind, is the Xpro2 still a contender considering the big price drop? I also have the XT3, XH1 and 6 fuji fast primes. Thank you.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

buddahlushious What do you want to do that you can’t with what you’ve got?

@Interpolation1911

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP You are absolutley right. This is more of a lust than anything. But on the other hand, when i held an Xpro2 i fell in love. Should i dish out the extra $400 or stick with the pro2 and i also get the 23f2 with it or stick with technology upgrades? Thank you.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

buddahlushious I gather you can swing the extra $400 for the superior experience of the X-Pro3, so I’d go they way - as long as your primes don’t go so wide that the narrower field of view of the newer OVF bothers you.

@Interpolation1911

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP Thank you for your input. I will go for the Pro3 then. It also makes sense since Fuji dosen't change this model so quickly. Also, my primes are: 16 1.4, 23 1.4, 35 1.4, 56 1.2, 90 f2 and 50-140 2.8 plus couple of old russian manual lens. Again, Thank you.

I ended up going down a 3-hour internet rabbit hole, exploring rare historical photographs. 1:34 AM... Thanks a lot... hahaha :P

I'm a Sony full-frame shooter who just dove headfirst back into 35mm film and seeing a camera that bridges the creative gap between film and digital is indeed dangerous for my wallet! Not having the rear screen, and working within the confines of film or film simulation does worlds of good for my compositional skills. My focus shifts off the camera and back to my eye again. I sure would love to try the x-pro 3 out. Then again, I don't think I can afford to right now! Thanks, Hugh. Great videos as always.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻😊

Why not a new sensor?

Like you I use a CL for happy snaps - and I think you've nailed the important questions re this camera - especially the EVF or viewing experience - which is what a photographer needs teh most

I get the idea of not viewing the screen as you shoot. I don't see what the new design offers that couldn't have been done by just allowing users to turn the screen off, and/or having the screen show simplified info. Simpler solutions are better. The screen could have tilted up if they wanted to offer a waist-level shooting position.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Fair point!

Some fascinating thoughts here Hugh. I spent a lot of time trying to choose between the X-T2 & X-Pro2 after taking a creative photography course with a lovely teacher who was a confirmed Fuji man. After my soul-searching I chose the T2 because it felt more 'conventional' and the centre positioned viewfinder 'worked' for me in terms of both a comfortable location in hand and brightness, clarity, ease of use etc. However, I keep looking at the Pro2 and my heart tells me it might just make me get out and take more pictures which, after all, is why I own a decent camera in the first place. I never, ever, use the rear screen for anything other than the odd settings check and a, very rare, chimp if I'm in a tricky lighting situation or playing with slow shutter speeds for motion effects. In fact the rear screen often annoys me because I'm worried about scratching it or getting smears on it - I'm one of those people that wants to keep it sparkly clean even though I don't use it! The advances in the T3 weren't enough to make me upgrade and I used my money for the, wonderful, 10-24mm zoom instead but the Pro3 seems like it might be the one to make all the difference. The screen looks perfect for my use and if it's lighter and the viewfinder is significantly improved that may well tip the balance. I have a birthday coming soon as well. . .

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Barrie Cree Thanks for such a lovely, thoughtful contribution to the conversation! Please keep me posted.

@Bac69

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP - of course now I've also watched your review of the Leica CL & I've started thinking about how much my Fuji gear might be worth on the used market, lol. . .

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Barrie Cree I get it COMPLETELY. 😎

@mikewheatley1099

4 жыл бұрын

Your experience exactly mirrors mine. I chose the X-T2 over the X-Pro2 on the basis of preferring the view finder and wondered ever since if I made the right choice. I'm keenly looking forward to the X-Pro3 but this time I will hire one for a few days rather than make a choice based on comparing cameras for ten minutes in the shop. The only danger with this plan is it could result in deciding I need both camera bodies.

As the saying goes, it's the photographer not the equipment. Manual lenses on modern AF camera's further test the photographers ability. The fastest lens is zone focusing, but requires more skills and pre planning. Also, camera's and it's equipment never go out of fashion, just for different uses. All the way from manual film to digital AF, there's a camera and equipment for everyone and different purposes.

I’ve been shooting Fuji for several years now and I’ve never been more baffled by them. Based on the early and confirmed “rumors” I don’t know any current X-Pro-2 shooters who are excited or are planning to get the Pro-3. As laid out it addresses almost none of the issues most of us have (battery life, IBIS) save the improvements to the EVF you mentioned. Since this isn’t an intro camera it begs the question... who is it for?

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Scott You make valid points. I suspect if one already owns and is happy with a ‘2, the ‘3 will not be a must-have upgrade. But the same psycho/demographic cohort who held off on a ‘1 or ‘2 waiting for a better viewfinder and/or tiltable rear panel may be enticed. I am intrigued.

@tomscott4438

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP Overall I really love my X-Pro-2 and it's quirks, although regarding the fiddly ISO/Shutter Speed dial the best I can muster is tolerance. When I got back in to photography I had a serious case of G.A.S. But that's a slippery slope, and the next new thing is a temporary fix at best. Part of me really wanted to at least want this camera, and part of me is relieved I really don't. I can't see that changing on October 23rd. They could have kept the quirks we have come to know and love and fixed or added the features most people wanted. Instead they addressed one issue and added even more quirks. I just don't see the end game in that. (BTW, cool Road ID bracelet. Great product)

do you use Autofocus or is it a static focus?

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

GH5, static. A6400, Nikon Z7, G9, S1R - AF

“What it clearly won’t do is offer any help when shooting with the camera overhead, as if in a crowd… “ Lament not Hugh. You can indeed do an excellent Hail Mary, camera-held-overhead, with the X-Pro3’s upward facing LCD. Just hold the camera upside down! I have done so with great success and visual predictability with my GFX-50R. You get significantly more height, direct access to the shutter button and to my mind a more comfortable and stable way to shoot overhead in a crowd than with the camera upright. And yes, the view display is right side up, as the world did not flip, just the pipe that it came through.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Malloch Thank you for sharing your real world experience doing something counter-intuitive to me. I LOVE OUR COMMUNITY!

I consider myself a semi professional as I shoot events and weddings on a semi regular basis. My Main Street camera’s are an X-Pro-1 and a Sony RX1. Im getting offers to sell my X-Pro 1 so the prices are rising on those again. I’m keeping my X-Pro 1 and purchasing the X-Pro 3. “” Blessings of the state. Blessings of the masses.”” Buy and be Happy”” 👉 THX-1138

The LCD screen will indeed flip further down to aid in overhead shots. HOW. is-it. that... you...didn’t catch.........that? (Just trying to type in the way you speak. 🤓)

best Xpro3 video on KZread right now!

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Cardenas 🙏🏻😊

Dangerous was Capa's war photojournalism it cost him his life in Indochina and that of his partner in Spain. Dangerous would be Canon announcing a full frame mirrorless with IBIS or would we call that revolutionary? Top notch episode Hugh. I don't shoot Fuji but l do admire how they go about things including their firmware updates. A X100V or X-H2 could seriously tempt me.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

You are right about Capra - very much risk assumptive!

@peterlemke3468

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP Or the epitome of an alpha male. Other men admired him and forged deep friendships with him, women just adored him. Another man shaped by the Spanish civil war alongside Orwell and Hemingway.

@ronaldplesco9661

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP Hugh, these are two different men. Capa was a war photog., and Capra, famous Hollywood director who shot during WWll with his film unit as an officer in the Service. Great propaganda films, (in a good way), Films such as, "Why We Fight", helped show the bigger picture. Capra died many years after the War, of age related problems. Thought provoking discussion on the X-Pro 3.

Lower the price? I bet it'd be significantly higher, titanium, tilt double screen, bigger evf. And with the pro2 we can see that they dont want/ccant drop the price

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

You may well be right!

@Caracalaba

4 жыл бұрын

@@3BMEP I'll make my bet. 1999

I suspect the price will be the same unless manufactured in China so could drop like the X-T3, but there will be a premium attached to the black and titanium dura coats, in fact bet on it. I would not be surprised to see a $200 tack on and I’d pay that. I’ve read that Fuji has miniaturized their version of IBIS so it would fit both the X-Pro3 and X-T4. If this is true do not look for an X-H2. My guess is this was something rushed to market in order to have an IBIS body out there and nothing more. I have one and it’s a great camera, but did not sell. Too big, heavy and without the features to compete against Sony video capability. Fuji’s market share is about taking advantage of the smaller sensor and making smaller, lighter bodies and lenses. If the X-T4 has IBIS with no substantial increase in size and weight then where’s the niche in the market for an X-H2 unless they pull out the stops and make it a seriously competitive video monster? I have no idea what that might entail since I don’t do video and wouldn’t do the X-H2, but some might. I think the “H” in X-H1 stood for, “hurry up.” Look for the drop down LCD and mini screen in the X200 so you can tear off the end of the film box (I’m like you, I love this stuff) and since they’re upgrading the lens, the ELF and making it WR take all bets offered the designation will be, X200, not X100V. No brainer here.

@1fareast14

4 жыл бұрын

Fuji has too many big lenses to get rid of the X-H line. The 100-400, and 200mm prime are lenses that demand a big, slr-style body. They're too good at video to not have a body with IBIS. Yes, I think the XH-1 is riddled with ergonomic blunders (needing two dials to have fine shutter speed control is a holdover from other camera lines, the joystick is hard to use with gloves), but the idea was sound.

@Thomas_Geist

4 жыл бұрын

@@1fareast14 You have a point. I have a T2 and T3 but love hanging my 56mm and 23mm f1.4 on my H1, but I also have an Fuji L-bracket grip for the T2 and the larger lenses are just fine, plus I have the option of taking it off when using the WR f2 Fujicrons. The IBIS, size, larger grip and useless little screen that replaced the exposure comp all look like they rushed something out that looked like a SONY. It's an a7 configuration. Could they keep going in that direction? Sure, but business is about actually selling stuff and the H1 didn't sell so why would an H2? If you make something that didn't sell you don't do that if you want your stock holders not to come for you with touches. As I said in 1st post, Fuji has a niche, small, light, retro, well made, film simulations, etc. This is Fuji and they are not going to knock Sony off their perch. Different customers. Go after Sony on their turf and ask Nikon and Canon how well that went. At current prices, the H1 is now selling very close to - not wholesale - FACTORY cost which is usually somewhere around 40% of retail. They had to do that to hold onto shaky retailers stuck with inventory collecting dust. Will they repeat that? I'm thinking, no, but then again the kept the stupid angle on the Pro3 dial deck so anything's possible.

@Thomas_Geist

4 жыл бұрын

Did I nail the price or what?

As insightful as ever Hugh. I never use the rear screen on my Xpro2, so wouldn’t particularly mind if it disappeared entirely. In fact, I’d like them to strip away all superfluous additions 😊

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Harrington 😊🙏🏻

@1fareast14

4 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't, but do you really support taking it away from shooters who use both ovf and lcd? Why should only a narrow slice of people be allowed to enjoy it?

@hypnotoads

4 жыл бұрын

1fareast14 Well, as it’s not going to happen it’s not really an issue is it. I happen to like the stripped back aesthetic, but if you don’t that’s ok too. We’ll both be happy.

@fellowcitizen

4 жыл бұрын

In one of his final interviews, Cartier-Bresson referred to taking photos through-out the day without a camera at all.

THX1138. Nice.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

😎🤛🏻

My X100f is nearly broken at 30k clicks. I want a Fuji camera that will do 200k like most DSLRs!

@aldpradana6928

4 жыл бұрын

Jim how do you know its almost 30k?

I just got an X-Pro3. I've had a couple X100's and a Pro2. I may be one of the ten people that actually use the OVF so my request is statically HUGE. On all the other hybrid viewfinders I've used from Fuji, in the OVF mode the parallax frame lines move to compensate when the shutter is 1/2 pressed and return to the neutral infinity position as soon as the shutter button is released. On the Pro3 I have, The parallax correction moves the framing box but DOES NOT RETURN TO THE NEUTRAL POSITION. This is VERY annoying when recomposing the next image at infinity after many years of muscle memory stored with the other Fuji Hybrids. If one close focuses and the frame moves to the lower right it remains there even when the camera is turned off and on again. And besides, it just ain't natural, Mate. I called Fuji support and they appeared clueless but only said they'd pass it along. Since you have a popular channel I thought perhaps you may get more attention.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Thomas Geist great feedback! Have forwarded it to a bud at FujiFilm.

@Thomas_Geist

4 жыл бұрын

Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions Much appreciated. Any way you could let me know what he says? I’m really hoping they don’t say that it’s, “an improvement.” I thank you and the other nine OVF users thank you. We are a small tribe but make up for it in eccentricity and demanding answers.

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Thomas Geist when I hear, I’ll let you know.

The X-T2 is a very good camera and I think it’s ability to hold price is due to the fact it’s become a Fuji cult camera being maybe the last made in Japan. If Fuji is smart the X-Pro3 will say, “MADE IN JAPAN” as well. They’re attempting to attract the high quality market with titanium and putting them together in China could defeat that. Simple way to prevent the X-Pro2 competing with the 3? Stop making them. No ones carrying a huge inventory anyway. I think the market is saturated, hence the big fanfare on the 3. Largest cameras store in Central Florida doesn’t even stock them anymore. The shelve in the back room will clear out in months if not weeks. (Unless they make the 3 in China. Then all bets are off.) Speaking of titanium: Sure as hell will be lighter than the M-10 bricks made out of thickly milled brass which went out of style in the Bronze Age because by the time you could bring your sword around they guy with the iron version had already sliced and diced you.

@RM-hy4so

4 жыл бұрын

X-H1 that came later is still made in Japan

@Thomas_Geist

4 жыл бұрын

@@RM-hy4so Not sure what you're talking about. The H1 came after the T2 and both are made in Japan. Right. And both before the T3 which is made in China. So, the decision to move assembly to China is between the H1 and T3. Well done. Is there a point I'm missing?

Doth he confabulate or no?

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Matthews ‘tis a function of your meaning! Art thou saying my memory fails? Nay!

I have never understod the point of Fuji X-Pro. If it is only for taking pictures it should be perfect for me, but I don't want a camera with the worst grip in the entire univers.

If they really mean it honest with photography, why not recreating a manual focussing line. To build even smaller lenses like the Leica M-Series lenses with extraordinary quality? With IBIS to make it even more perfect for low light and street photography and landscapes after sunsets? I always do manual focus but it's hard with my prime lenses at night to come to overall sharpness without noise. But spending 15000€ on a Leica Set-Up where the body is definitely not worth the price (because since digital technology there is no uniqueness) to use this extraordinary lenses, that doesn't make sense. So if Fuji would be consequent more about photography I guess that would be the way to go. Build a line with lenses about photography but with the top technology make the images crisply and clear, just supporting your skills not dictating them. Would love an manual focus lenses line for my X-T2 but even more with an X-Pro 2 like camera with IBIS.

Damn you remind me so much of Jeff Goldblum

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Jamel Hamilton 😎

Do you think the XPro 2 is still viable?

@3BMEP

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely - especially if your eyes are better than mlne!

@IanDocherty335

4 жыл бұрын

Why wouldn’t it be....it was yesterday and still is today after all. Believe it or not, some people are taking great pictures on film with cameras many decades old.

@Seimstudios

4 жыл бұрын

At this point the XP2 will likely be a better camera than the XP3

@westcoasthaase

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I shoot film, but I was just asking what people thought. Abuse XPro2 is still $1,499