The focus breathing seemed pretty okay in comparison to other macro lenses I've seen on this channel. Nice work as always, Chris!

Since this is the only 1:1 macro lens for Fuji, it's an obvious choice. The build quality is great, it's sharp and it's an excellent macro lens. If you don't shoot macro you likely won't understand its value. Most high quality lenses from all manufacturers are overpriced so this is just one in the crowd. But it's a great macro lens.

Maybe some things people want to know: - The bokeh is quite swirley, like the old Soviet Helios-44 lenses - It can be mounted with the 1.4x teleconverter (and I assume the 2x teleconverter) to extend focal length - The _wobbly_ character of the lens is due to floating elements that are kept in place by magnets. I own the lens myself and I bought it myself as it's the only macro lens on a Fuji system with autofocus which is pretty damn handy for macro photography (although the rules dictate you should do manual focusing on a macro lens..). The Laowa 65mm macro (with two times magnification) is probably better value for money for Fuji systems, but only comes with manual focus.

@k1k13004

3 жыл бұрын

i have this lense and the 1.4x converter. you lose 1 stop so F4 and you have to be further (wich can be good sometimes but you don't gain on magnification)

@aaronclinesmith2286

3 жыл бұрын

I can attest to the Laowa 65mm being an amazing macro lens. If you use a flash, you can get images just as sharp as the Fuji, but you also have the option of 2x magnification. Plus it's about 1/2 the size of the Fuji. I ended up returning the Laowa and my Viltrox 85mm and bought the Fuji 80mm macro so I could have one dual purpose lens to simplify my kit. But for anyone looking to add a macro lens to their kit, I can't recommend the Laowa highly enough. Super pleased with the Fuji as well.

@eagleeyephoto8715

3 жыл бұрын

@@k1k13004 Correct but you gaining on a focal length and when shooting macro you usually not using f2.8 due to a very shallow depth of focus. With TC 1.4 it will behave as 180 f4 which is not bad idea if you have to shoot on a distance.I pair them both with Mcex 11 or 16 when the magnification has to be larger then 1:1.

@k1k13004

3 жыл бұрын

@@eagleeyephoto8715 exactly what I said "wich can be good sometimes" 80x1.4 = 112mm, equivalent to 168mm on fullframe (not f4 equivalent though) i'm not sure where you got your 180 from

@eagleeyephoto8715

3 жыл бұрын

@@k1k13004I mixed up crop with TC you are right 80x1.5= 120x1.4= 168 f4. On FF it would be 168mm f4 exposure wise.

As I recall from previously owning the XF 90mm f/2, back when I had an X-T1, the "clunk" is the focusing group moving about. The way Fujifilm's engineers designed those lenses with the quad linear motor systems was to have the focusing group as a floating set of elements in order to move them around more quickly. Honestly, I never shook the lens around much to even hear the sound more than every once in a while, and I can't help but think that an engineer wouldn't let that through to final production if they thought it would cause damage in the long-term. There are other lenses that do this outside the Fujifilm X-system, and even the super-telephoto zoom lenses on Samsung phones do this.

@MS88nyc

2 жыл бұрын

yes one quick look at the official page of this lens from fuji and you can see the motor moves around quite a bit! Good to know it moves around so much when off.. not sure I want to buy this and take on vacation now..removing from BH cart as I type this..

@anonymousl5150

Жыл бұрын

@@MS88nyc It's pretty much a non-issue imo. This is one of the best lens you can get for Fuji period if you do macro or a semi telephoto lens with its ridiculous autofocus speed and image sharpness. It's not something I'd ever buy for retail but you can get it used for like 500.

Great review as usual,looking forward to 90mm f2 as well

Brill review as always! Thanks!

Another lovely review thank you very much.

I absolutely love mine. Best Macro lens I’ve ever used!

This also has telecom better options, both 1.4x and 2.0x, which greatly increases its versatility. This is the only lens I take anymore for my landscape hiking and this works great for my macro and landscape shots I punch in on.

Nice to hear a well thought out negative review. Well done sir.

Fuji XF 90mm has the same "clunk" when the camera is turned off. It is normal behaviour for those lenses - it is AF construction with the focusing element held by electromagnetic field, or some other kind of magic, as Fujifilm explains :)

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard that, too. While it is normal, still, it's a horrible design decision - it can't be good for the lens long-term.

@mattbite

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost Don't know about long-term durability, but I agree on the quirkness of design - e.g. some people not accustomed to this may find the lens faulty when you want to sell it used...

@jensdanbolt6953

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost It can actually be a benefit for durability long term. It's plastic housings that are touching when it 'clunks'. While these plastic elements may experience more shock than a normal lens, where there is less free space to gain speed and clunk like, for two reasons: 1) They are designed to tolerate those shocks, using materials there that are elastic and less susceptible to fatigue. 2) Even if those touching surfaces deform over time, it shouldn't affect lens alignment or motor operation, because when the magnets turn on the lens elements will float and the clunking surfaces won't interact with anything.

@GrandHuevotes

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost to be fair i’ve never heard of a single 90 or 80 lens with this focus system having any problems whatsoever and they’ve been out a while now. so i don’t have any reason to believe it’s a “horrible” design decision since Fujifilm has been building motion picture as well as military and medical grade optics deep into the six figures price tag for decades.

@SquirrelHybrid

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost I bought the 80mm lens and it arrived severely chipped inside (~35% of an internal element was visibly chipped), so I sent it back the next day for a full refund. I don't think there's a practical way to protect the internal elements from being slammed around in transit.

Waiting for Fujinon 16mm f1.4 and 60mm f2.8 macro review 😊😊

The lens is using same tech as Sigma apsc art 2.8 trio. If you shake them, they will clunk as well. Floating element.

The clunk is interesting. I have a Pentax DSLR which does that because of the IBIS. I wouldn't be too bothered by it though and it shouldn't affect reliability

Great review Chris! Love to see more from Fujifilm. My interests for coming reviews: [Fuji XF 90mm f2], [Fuji XF 50mm f1] and [Fuji 60mm f/2.4]. It's hard to decide what to buy, because all my favorite lenses from Fuji are so expensive. As for now I only have 23mm 1.4 which I love, but looking for 50-60mm or 90mm.

Thanks for the great review. I have a set of extension tubes that I use with my 18-55 and 55-200 for some pretty good macro shots. Cheers and keep up the great work!

@MrAndypeet

Жыл бұрын

hello, would you recommend trying extension tubes (11/18/45mm) before investing in an xf 80mm macro & potentially teleconverters (1.4/2x) for even closer images? grateful for advice

@PhotoGearFun

Жыл бұрын

@@MrAndypeet I would, extension tubes are inexpensive and are great to use for macro photos. If it turns out you don’t like Marco you haven’t invested a lot at that point.

@MrAndypeet

Жыл бұрын

@@PhotoGearFun thanks-very helpful advice-are they best used on 18-55 or would they allow closer images/greater magnification on my 10-24 or 55-200 lense? Thanks again

@PhotoGearFun

Жыл бұрын

@@MrAndypeet I found the 55-200 to be best. The 18-55 works pretty well.

Chris, How does this lens compare to the Sigma 105 DG DN? I have Fuji and L Mount and trying to decide between the two.

I own the lens, and I think it’s price is somewhat justified by it being slightly better in practice than full frame 100mm macro lenses, for macro photography specifically. It has more zoom and better working distance. 1:1 on aps-c is actually more close up then 1:1 on full frame. There are macro lenses for full frame with more working distance and zoom but they are enormous, and or without good autofocus you close, and not something I ever want to take with me traveling. Of course, it’s like apple, you pay a ton more for a product that is noticeably, but sometimes not mind blowingly better, but that’s what you sign up for with Fuji

@AyeBeAPirate

3 жыл бұрын

"There are macro lenses for full frame with more working distance and zoom but they are enormous, and or without good autofocus" - The Canon 100mm f/2.8L is smaller, as the video mentioned, and the Sony 90mm f/2.8 is lighter. Both are pretty damn good... the Sony in particular I really enjoyed shooting. IMO, the Fuji 80mm f/2.8 is a pretty awful value but a very sharp lens. It is all there is if you want 1:1 macro on Fuji.

This is my favorite Fuji lens and I even use it for street. Fuji will never make full frame, their gfx line covers that.

I have a Sigma 105 mm 2.8 DG OS HSM, Nikon attachment. I wonder if this would be an improvement (btw, I'm moving to Fuji XT5) or if I should buy an adapter and call it done.

Sigma Art lenses the 30mm and 60mm for Sony apsc also have that clunk when off

Would really be interested ins seeing "your" review of the 7Artisans 60mm f/2.8 Macro 1:1 lens.

what aperture do you recommend for scanning 35 mm film? I thinking f5.6 or f8

ive had this lens since it came out and its fujifilms sharpest lens! and great for portraits aswel as macro,being super versatile its very reasonably priced i think.

You have to use it to fall in love with it.

May I have your expert opinion please. 1.) I plan to digitize approx. 1300 slides. Slide surface is 25mm square. The closest a camera can get to the slide is 140mm. I have a full spectrum Lumecube air 400lux variable intensity 0-100 percent back light. 2.) I also want to use the camera and lens to digitize our many photo albums, take pictures of pictures. 3.) use it also as a web cam and to take 1080 and 4k video. But first and foremost the priceless family history slides. Question: what camera, macro lens and will I need an extension tube, would you recommend? hoping to stay under $1300USD. I am a newbee as you can tell. (I was thinking a Fuji X-T200 and a 7 artisan 60 mm wt extension tube? But after watching your incredible video here, I see I need expert advice. Thank you so much for your time and the way you present. I am learning a lot. Sincerely, JT

The 60mm is an option but the internal reflection problem is a concern with that. Maybe Fuji have solved that in later copies though.

@ickebins6948

Жыл бұрын

The 60mm is only 1:2 and not WR. So not really the same.

Ooph - those Fuji lens prices kill me... Speaking of which, any plans for the 50mm F1.0?

@yesthisisdonut

3 жыл бұрын

yes please, chris!

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

I'll try to give Fuji UK a call this week to borrow a sample copy (I can't afford to buy it hehe)

@KristiGay1973

3 жыл бұрын

Fuji lenses are WAY more affordable than other brands!

Lot of money!What are the less expansive options to use on my Fuji XT30,please.

In terms of other options, the only close one would be Laowa 65mm which doesn't have auto focus. No other options come to mind.

I'm using XT4 and I'm planning to buy this lens. However, as you know, this kind of glass is quite expensive. Do you have any recommendation or I should save money for this ? How about 60mm f2.4 ? Is it worthy for extra bucks with 80mm f2.8 instead of 60mm f2.4 ?

@pcphotography9108

2 жыл бұрын

I'm considering those two options as well, although I've found a used 80 posted for $700USD.

How does compare to the 60mm macro? Thanks for a great style of “ego-free” presentations

@guillaumesandmayer7053

3 жыл бұрын

I own both the 60mm and 80mm - it might sound a little silly but optics aside - discretion - in public. The 60mm let's you get away with murder for the most part. No one notices it on a xt-2. I once braved a sunny day with the 80mm, lens hood attached. Walking around with an AK-47 would've resulted in less unwanted attention. Got stopped twice asking why I was and about with such a howitzer.

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

@@guillaumesandmayer7053 jay maisel walks around nyc with a huge zoom on a Nikon dslr. Stop worrying about what people think.

You test modern lenses. What about testing sometimes an older lens too 🙏🏻😃? For example I use a Tokina AT-X 90 2.5 (the legendary „Bokina“) with extension tube as an 1:1 Macro instead of this XF 80mm 2.8 from Fuji. And I love it 😊.

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

Tests of older lenses don't get so many views, unless they're very special, and I have bills to pay

@Powerland56

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost ok, then we have to wait until you are in pension and can make this „just for fun“ 😉.

Many Fuji users claim that the optical performance justifies the price. The reviewer mentions other options that are less expensive. That would be great. In looking, I have not found one near this FL at 1:1.

@ickebins6948

Жыл бұрын

It's the only Fujinon 1:1 macro. There are macro lenses from other manufacturers but nothing thats near this lense. Sadly.

@muttishelfer9122

6 ай бұрын

@@ickebins6948 XF 30mm 2,8 1:1 Macro, Zeiss 50mm 2,8 1:1 Macro...

@ickebins6948

Ай бұрын

@@muttishelfer9122 That 30mm was not around when I posted the reply and the Zeiss is not made by Fuji :)

Chris, there is actually someone who may be able to answer the question as to why it is so large. I suggest asking Fujifilm themselves. Address your question to Toshihisa Iida, the new CEO of Fujifilm Europe (former imaging division Operations Manager). He seems to be a good chap - you might even get a reply!

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe!

Hi Chris, thanks! With a Fringer smart adapter and a Canon EF 2.8/100mm Macro you can get similar results at a fraction of the price for this lens. This Canon Macro has served me very well for many years. Best Ralg

Fuji XF 90mm f2 please!!! (really struggling to decide between the two)

@WieHurra

3 жыл бұрын

Same here ;)

@LeeD345

3 жыл бұрын

Well we recently have around 5 of them sold for 400$ in my country. I sold mine too. Bokeh is same as 56 apd but 90mm is better focal for portraits and have much faster af speed. 80mm is more versatile in applications so I choose it over 90 in the end. Imo if you’re looking for portraits better buy used 50-140, if you need macro there’s not so many choices on fuji and I wouldn’t consider 90mm anyway

actually think the laowa 65mm is easier to use for macro.

Could you please make more example with xt30 camera?

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

I don't own one

Hey I want to save money. I need a tip on where to get an x mount fuji macro compatible for a whole lot less.

@orielireland

Ай бұрын

Look at the tokina 100mm macro with an nikon adapter. I use one on an XPro2

Any plans to do the so called 'best' fujinon lens? The 16mm f1.4?

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

I'm doing a video about the best low-budget ones, yes

I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that the focus ring turns around and around, with no beginning or ending. In other words, the "focus throw" is endless. I guess the only way to know when the lens is set for maximum magnification is to position the lens at its minimum focusing distance. Of course that's a bit of a guesstimate when an extension tube is added for a little more magnification. (I prefer the Fujifilm 11mm extension tube for use with the 80mm macro lens.) What's your take on the endless focus throw?

I'm chose 90mm f2.0 for my xt4 What do you think . Which is bether ???

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

I would prefer the 90mm lens (unless you want to do macro work)

What are the far less expensive options please ? . Thank you

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

Look at my video about low budget Fuji lenses

@4Kandlez

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost Low budget usually means lower image quality which isn't really an alternative to this lens, which is why it has that price

Agree it is too expensive .. what are the other options out there for 1:1 macro with autofocus on Fuji that you talk of Chris ? ...

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure but I think there are options if you use extension tubes, and the 60mm f/2.4 can get very close, too (although not quite 1:1)

@Jylakir

3 жыл бұрын

If your fine with only 50mm you can try the ZEISS Touit 2.8/50M . I use it on my Sony A6400. The lens is quite old, so be aware that the focus is not the fastest and its quite loud.

@tomlopata

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost how would you compare the IQ to that of the Laowa 60mm APO f2.8? Obviously AF is nice to have but not for $800 more, especially if you use a macro rail for stacking.

@dima1353

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost Macro lenses without stabilization is not good for outdoor insect hunting, unless you use flashes (but this is a pretty old-fashioned technique from the 2000s, now with modern sensors many photographers prefer dawn light). If you go hunting in the morning in calm weather, then the insects are quite sleepy, and they allow you to shoot at relatively long exposures, so as a limiting factor they give way to hand shake. IS is really game-changer for outdoor photography.

@maxwiltshire6159

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfrost Would love to see a video on the Fuji 60mm 2.4, Chris. A macro lens that won’t require me to sell a kidney!

and... what are the less expensive options?

@ickebins6948

Жыл бұрын

Thats what I was hoping for... In my view there is no other option. Sadly Sure you can get the 60mm Laowa 1:2 but thats not 80mm, has no AF, not WR. It's the same for Sony, Canon, ... the good macro lenses are all over 1k.

"Someone tell me in the description" Uhhh just gonna call up hackerman

I think the ‘clunk’ is due to the stabilisation system. The more modern Tamron 70-180 behaves like that as well

@matthewwells1606

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. It isn't an issue unless you want it to be, IMO.

@JetBen555

3 жыл бұрын

but the 70-180 doesn't have image stabilization ...

Whoalaaaa .... trnyata memang berdentang y nih lensa .. kaget sy😅

The clonking and hissing noises of this lens are unacceptable . Maybe one day Fuji will give us mark II macro lenses.

Should you have done a lens test on a lens that has issues,

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

This lens was the reason I changed from Fuji to Canon / much besser and cheaper Macro lens, besser AF...). I didn't love the egg-bokeh of this Fuji lens at all.

One of these days I'm waiting for you to come across a lens with such a long name you just call it alphabet soup.

2:55 may be a gut feeling but that is a no go, no matter how good the lens performs

Charge the battery.

What's the price in Indian National Rupee????

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

How should I know LOL

@robertcudlipp3426

3 жыл бұрын

Just do a simple Google search for currency exchange rates. There are numerous free conversion sites.

You use dollars in Wales do you...

@christopherfrost

3 жыл бұрын

No, we use pounds sterling. That is why I also gave the price in pounds.

Plastic, WHAT? The cluncyness goes away when it’s on the camera.

@ickebins6948

Ай бұрын

No, it's just "going away" if the camera is on. But it does not matter because there is nothing wrong with it in the first place.

BUY THE X-S10.

The only thing going for this lens is af/ois..... Better get a Iaowa macro lens.

@AyeBeAPirate

3 жыл бұрын

@SUAVE VISION TV I don't have a problem with AF on the X-T3, not sure how it performs on different cameras. Great lens optically (nearly every modern macro is) but MAN is it big, heavy, and expensive.

Honestly why the ois, people who do macro/product use tripods. Decrease price or weight by removing. Or just give us more light

@StylusDrop

3 жыл бұрын

It is not just used for macro photography. The XF 80mm is great for for portraiture and landscape photography too or any situation where you need a 120mm equivalent lens.

Pretty incompetent lens review. Luckily everybody that own lens can see that hi has no clue about engineering or about macro lenses.The focus floating rear elements are hold by linear motors and elements are running on the ceramic bearing rail. The lens is one of the fastest Macro lenses I ever used due to speed of the linear motors.I comparing it to a Sony,Canon,Nikon, Olympus AF macro lenses and to be honest there is no other option on Fujifilm if you want AF macro 1:1 lens other then Zeiss Touit 50mm.Otherwise you can go manual route but non of the option will give you performance or options as Fujifilm does. Lens is actually cheap for what you getting.

@jaegerschtulmann

Жыл бұрын

Well both the laowa 65 and 100mm are apochromatic with 2:1 magnification. Both are as sharp if not sharper than the fuji. On other systems the voigtlanders apolanthars outshine the fuji

@JackieDElia

7 ай бұрын

I bought mine for $675 preowned - like new. I agree the price is very expensive for a brand new one. If you really want one, check used market places.

What a BS review, better take a few lessons about the design of a macro lens. This one is top.

@ickebins6948

Ай бұрын

What's wrong with the review?