tbh i was expecting more trivial mistakes pretty incredible how the software is progressing.

Imagine being the guy in charge of what is basically car path finding, and being names Kar(car)pathy

@nilsfrederking62

3 жыл бұрын

Funny, never thought of that!

@grantguy8933

3 жыл бұрын

It’s simulation.

@AlexSchwartzATV

3 жыл бұрын

I swear to god I thought it was his username until I realized it was his real name

@WilliamDohnany

3 жыл бұрын

I think the name comes from the mountain range in middle and east Europe. Karpaty or Carpathian

@Haldexify

3 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamDohnany Its correct. Anyways hillarious

You really go the extra mile with these commentaries, put together with care, consideration and good humour. I look forward to them, thanks so much.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for commenting, it takes a while to put these videos together and comments like these always keep me wanting to make more! I'm so happy you enjoy them :]

I just have to say after driving in SF professionally, daily, during and after rush hour, for 4 years a decent percentage of human drivers aren't ready to drive there either. The layout is complex and with constant construction going on resulting in detours, lane closures combined with sporting events and tourist traffic it takes a driving competency a some (many) drivers just don't possess.

@danzafrir9193

3 жыл бұрын

Kind of a hard question. But based on this video, how would you rate FSD in this video from 1-10. And let’s say for reference the average driver driving in SF would get an 8

@markplott4820

3 жыл бұрын

Lee - try Driving in New Deli India..........LOL.

@leesass3602

3 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 I've seen New Deli and with all the bikes and animals it's definitely a challenge it looks like chaos to western eyes but if you watch there is a system in place. The worst place I have ever driven was through Tijuana Mexico in the mid-1970s. There were approximately 7 to 8 traffic lanes unmarked and no direction for traffic vehicles going both directions on both sides of the road with potholes literally large enough to stop a car completely and not be able to get out

@jessiejanson1528

3 жыл бұрын

@@danzafrir9193 FSD works amazing well without interventions in areas with well marked lanes and standard roads and road markings. The issue is places like SF that invent their own non standard markings that are seen nowhere else but there, its completely absurd, most new drivers would definitely have issues driving there. If you compare the tesla to a new average driver driving in SF for the first time, other then its edge cases and 'wobbly' driving, id say its better then a human. the wobbly driving is because of the absurd lane lines that the car cant quite figure out right away. This will improve with time. As for the edge cases, those will also improve with time and this test helps find them. its fairly improper to compare any human or a tesla that sees those areas for the first time to a driver that lives there and drives those roads daily, How could they ever compare? By the time they do, teslas will be driving perfectly everywhere else in the USA.

Dude you are stressing me out. You are crazy! I would have whimped out way sooner with many of these situations. Be safe!

@trulux8395

3 жыл бұрын

damn son asimo up here in these comments

@VIP1234

3 жыл бұрын

I’m just gonna casually leave a reply here. Cool to see asimo here.

@britishairways744

3 жыл бұрын

Work on jailbreak!!!!

@markplott4820

3 жыл бұрын

try FSD on MAD MAX mode..........LOL.

@finn7530

3 жыл бұрын

I had to look up your name one more time just to confirm the top sponsor lol

FSD Beta in SFO is like trying to learn swimming in a sea !!

God, I love these videos.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Just found your channel. Can’t believe I’ve missed it until now. Your insights into FSD Beta really reflect a good understanding of how Neural Nets work and how Tesla is pursuing FSD. Thanks!

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and leaving a comment!

I got my Model Y last Sunday AND I'm moving to San Francisco (from Texas). Love the channel! Thanks for showing what I can expect.

Nice videos man. They only started showing up on my recommendations a few weeks ago and has continued to deliver.

The way you put these videos together is just perfect. Best of all FSD beta testers!

At 9:50 I think the auto pilot system saw that it couldn’t pass and to avid going around that u-Haul truck, there for, following that it was kinda still in the others white Sedan’s way it folded the mirror signifying the drive of the white sedan to come on through, kinda like how we flash our lights the let others driver know that they can go in front of you.

I'm so glad you got a shout out. You really have done some great work getting to know the Beta.

11:00 It’s obvious to us that the van is pulled over, while FSD was struggling over it, and I think the open door is the giveaway.

I like your videos because you do a great job of giving each situation context, what’s expected by human drivers, why what FSD did was appropriate and so on. Keep it up!

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and leaving a comment, I'm glad you like the videos :]

Love from the UK watching at 3am in the morning.

The best thing isn't just how we get to see the FSD progress, but also how good a driver you are. You are the perfect person to judge these driving situations, maneuvering between laws and courtesy. Well done - keep up the good work!

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Christoffer! I really appreciate this comment :]

@christofferravn4486

3 жыл бұрын

@@AIDRIVR I think you could grow your channel faster by uploading content more often. There is so much hype on Tesla and FSD right now, that some people are just waiting for you guys to upload the next thing to binge. - Fx. "Tesla Bjørn" (Bjørn Nyland) really takes advantage of this, and upload almost every day - though not edited as good as yours.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

@@christofferravn4486 Thank you for the feedback, I would love to upload more but work 50+ hrs a week and also have a very long commute which leaves very little time to edit these videos together. I also try to prioritize quality over quantity. I think I may have a "solution" to this though, which I will be talking about more in a video I hopefully will be able to capture, edit, and upload over the weekend. Thanks again for all of your feedback, it is super appreciated and helps my channel a lot. Fingers crossed I can quit my "real" job and work on YT full time lol

This was a very thorough test of FSD's limitations. This is the test we need!!!! Much appreciated. Solid content!

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching and leaving a comment!

Lots of interesting situations and you gave a great break down and analysis.

The reason you're videos are so popular is your content and commentary is so good.

Looks like every road in most of Europe every day, thanks for giving it a head-start! ;) Karpathy ROCKS - and the rest of the team too.

you are such a cool and chill guy! I liked your attitude very much. keep up with nice work and thanks for your efforts to make our lifes more enjoyable

You really deserve the subs you have and much more in the future, your videos are so informative and you give the real FSD experience without saying its always good or always bad. Either way, love your content and I hope you get much bigger.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

More amazing videos. Keep up the great work!

Live up a very curvy highway. FSD has gotten so good at controlling the fluctuating speeds required even around 180 degree turns. Very smooth. Still clips the yellow bumps slightly on some curves. Grateful for the safety it offers.

Congrats on the shoutout I felt excited jst hearing you talk about it

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

You have no idea man, it's blowing my mind still

Thanks for sharing the details about the emergency vehicles at 6:44. Great to see when warning lights are engaged the car came to a stop. Then even as a control case you passed another fire truck without lights on at 7:27 and car kept going as expected. I was just wondering yesterday how Beta would handle fire and police vehicles with lights on.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Yes this is the first time I've seen something like this! Maybe I can find a friendly police officer to run some tests :]

Thank you for keep perfecting FSD!

Really cool to see that the vast majority of these are extremely niche scenarios. Thanks for the video! I'm sure Tesla engineers really appreciate it.

I’m so glad I discovered this channel. I really appreciate your content and I’m looking forward to the times when this channel will be huge because I know it will be and I am one of the early subscribers :) Btw it’s the first time I hear about Andrej Karpathy which is a little funny because I’m from the same little country then him :D (not to brag or anything)

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I really hope you're right!

FSD is impressive as always, definitely am surprised with how few scenarios FSD needed help.

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

Some of these situations it probably wouldnt have needed it, he usually stopped it prematurely just to be safe.

Congrats on getting the shoutouts from karpathy the legend himself ! Can you upload a raw unedited version of the whole drive? Thanks

Super impressed that it aborted passing the truck when it saw oncoming traffic and then pulled in behind the truck to let them pass! Wow. You're right about the path prediction on Lombard too; amazing!

your Channel is so underradet no joke keep up the good content :D gratings from Switzerland

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :]

There are 14 thumbs down on this video? Must have been the GM board of directors.

It is interesting that the Lombard street is mapped/specifically trained on the vision NN as seen at 14:42. At first the car predicts the opposite side will also be a wide street, but as it sees the first corner it immediately displayed most/all of the turns.

This video is the perfect backdrop for a question I have that I am not sure if you have addressed in the past or not. We know that humans make driving decisions based not only on what they see vehicles and pedestrians doing, but also based on what drivers do. Specifically hand gestures, flashing high beams or even mouthing words. I can think of numerous occasions when I have reached a 4-way stop or a round-about at the same time as another vehicle and one driver will wave or motion for the other driver to go, even if the first driver had the right of way. I think recognizing these kinds of gestures would be valuable for the FSD software to be able to deal with. Say a Tesla is the second car at a 4-way stop and the first car hand motions or flashes high beams for the Tesla to go. A human driver would recognize this and assume the right of way. A similar situation would be when two vehicles are coming at each other and obstacles will only leave enough room for one vehicle. How can a FSD vehicle communicate with the other car in the absence of a human hand gesture? I think this is just another challenge that can certainly be eventually overcome, but it would seem to me to be one that genuinely has real-world implications. This video was very fascinating and I appreciate the time you took making it.

Can you imagine what it can do now on the roads of The Netherlands. In anterview a from some years ago he said the roads in The Netherlands are very good, especially the markings. He said the autopilot would work very well with good readable road markings and signs as well.

my new favorite series on YT lol!

As a New Yorker, the streets look so smooth and amazing to drive on.

I think a good place to try FSD in complicated roads would be downtown Santa Barbara, there are round-abouts, one way roads and lots of pedestrians. This would be very entertaining. Loving the content!

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! If I'm ever in the area I'll be sure to get some footage :]

Did you know that jaywalking is totally normal outside of the USA? There is a video here on KZread which explains the history behind this. Even the word jaywalking isn't known outside the USA. Love your content . Subscribed. :-)

Does autopilot use regen? I hear the brake often in FSD beta vids. I've never paid attention when I'm using it.

(i went a roadtrip in the us many years ago and drove to sf and ate oysters at the franciscan restaurant. seeing this made me totally nostalgic. uwu) and i remember the stress of driving in sf. it's a technological miracle that fsd is doing this well.

I loved FSD using turn signals when going down Lombard Street! LOL!

I would buy a shot glass to support your excellent work!

As a new resident to San Francisco, I'm not sure if I'm ready for the roads there yet. Also, you trust FSD Beta more than I trust myself lol

I’ll buy my Tesla the day the FSD is capable to drive on SF streets in ice and snow ⛄️ Thank you for your videos! It’s so much joy to watch 👍

Hey, Great Video. I wonder if you tested in foggy weather or heavy rain. I drove Uber for 3 months in SF, before city ban cars from Market st. It's always a nightmare to drive in the rain at night. 17 years of driving history in the bay area, I concider myself an experience driver. But still SF downtown + rain+ night = nightmare. I'm very curious how Tsla candle extreme weather conditions. Thank you.

do you automatically get fsd if you pay for it when purchasing the vehicle?

Great commentary and highly informative. What does the system use for a map?

This video instantly reminding me why I really don't miss driving in SF.

i found this in seattle also something similar the thing is the turns (right / left) do get open by Signal and also pedestrian light also is green so it seems a manual adjustment between pedestrians and cars, because if the cars keep waiting endlessly for pedestrians to move signal will again turn red, didnt live much in USA but like if the car safely crossess the roads with pedestrians not in their territory then is it legal?? and in 04:07 why do people skate in mid of roads??

As someone who is intimately familiar with these streets both as a driver and a pedestrian (and as a skateboarder and biker!), I found this content very, very fascinating. I see AI cars (cruise, etc.) driving around all the time, and I always wonder what the subjective experience for the driver and AI is. Please, more of these videos in the city! 🌉👍 Edit : Your narration/annotation of the content is also excellent.

Andrej is the man I don’t ever see anyone giving him enough credit! Would love to see that man at work sometime!!

@nilsfrederking62

3 жыл бұрын

...because he is humble. Quite a remarkable person!

Thank you. Unfortunately a lot of streets here in Europe are too slim for 2 cars so you constantly hurry to the next gap between parked cars.

@adamrak7560

3 жыл бұрын

it will be an interesting problem to solve for the empty self driving car to communicate with the human driver in the other car. (I know that most of the time there are no communications necessary, but still there are edge cases when the A.I. would need to make its intentions known). Also in traffic jams most of rules are completely disregarded when an emergency vehicle comes, and everybody goes where they can to let it pass. This is a VERY important edge case, but relatively rare too.

The two people waiting to cross at 8:32 were waiting on a corner. It wasn't the middle of a street.

@DerKatzeSonne

3 жыл бұрын

That's normal in many countries but seems like in the US with "cars first"-strategy and infrastructure, it's considered bad to cross the streets anywhere but at crosswalks. "Jaywalking." There's not even a German word for it. "Verkehrswidriges Überqueren einer Straße."

@boostav

3 жыл бұрын

@@DerKatzeSonne Might as well not even bother painting cross walks if that's the case in Germany.

@jessiejanson1528

3 жыл бұрын

@@DerKatzeSonne by having specific places to cross, drivers dont have to worry about people steeping out in front of them, makes it safer for everyone.

@DerKatzeSonne

3 жыл бұрын

@@boostav Well... there's a difference between crosswalks (cars MUST stop; even though they usually don't care as long as no police is around) and "crossing the street somewhere". The latter one isn't illegal but you shouldn't cross in front of a vehicle (you don't have the right of way). Still: If you kill someone, good luck in front of court.

@DerKatzeSonne

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessiejanson1528 Sure, just go to Switzerland, there are crossings everywhere and I love it. But in Germany... Nah. There just are so few that you aren't even really used to them. That sucks. BUT I think it should still be allowed to cross the street anywhere, just not without the right of way.

SF driving is SO different from normal driving. I lived there for a while, so I learned how to be comfortable. Then I came back to Contra Costa and realized on the first day that I was still driving as if I were in SF--I was a monster. lol. I now have two distinctly different styles of driving and easily switch back and forth. But if I didn't notice your license plate in SF, I would indeed beep at you, in that purely friendly way that is just to wake you up. lol

I am so impressed by this video, the car did better than I expected.

Try again after Covid, would be interesting to see how FSD handles normal SF traffic.

These are awesome man keep it up

So well done. Great commentary and kindness to Tesla.

Great video. Keep up the great work.

Could you tell that it was learning each time you went down Lombard street?

Thats a solid 8/10 driving right there. Was that FSD Beta's first time in San Fran?? (with you driving that is?)

When it goes down Lombard street, does autopilot know that it is going downhill?

I can totally foresee an optional ‘crow’s nest’ camera. Man elevation really brings out the best in the lane detection!

@markplott4820

3 жыл бұрын

Humans only need Two Cameras and a Neural Net computer.

@it89

3 жыл бұрын

retractable

Very interesting as always (am M3 LR owner and waiting for my FSD!) Elon tweeted the other day something like ..." I drove a new rout without any interventions". The way I read it, he is implying that the car itself is learning and say 2dn of 3rd time on the same route it will drive better and better than the first time. I always thought that the car is only utilizing the knowledge pushed to it by the OTA updates and you will have to get a new update for the car to figure out how to overcome the situation it previously was not able to cope with

The guy's name is Andrej "Karpathy" and he is the director of artificial intelligence and Autopilot Vision at Tesla? You can't make this stuff up.

So FSD is not ready to drive basically in any eurpean city?

Wow FSD Beta has improved so so much!

Can you try redwood RD or Norris canyon rd in Castro valley? Both very windy roads and Norris is very very narrow. Looking forward to all the videos in the Bay Area

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Thanks for the recommendation

10:20 The car sees the truck(with the back gate open) as being parked at an angle despite it being parked straight, thats why it thought it could go around while being that close. its possible that once the angle changed it might have noticed and used the breaks, but its not worth risking damaging your car to find out.

Wonder how well it'd do in the super steep hills where you can't see the intersection over the hood of the car.

@jessiejanson1528

3 жыл бұрын

the car has a better view then a human, so if the car cant see it, humans would have no hope of seeing it. The car would inch forward and have a better view then a human. Any situation where the car cant see is a situation where no human could see and would likely result in many accidents, so that situation would likely never exist in the first place.

Do you report situations like at 8:02 or Lombard St. to Tesla via the report button?

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Disengagements automatically get sent to Tesla

Funny to come back from year 2024 and see the progress

Thanks AI DRIVR, very interesting. Can you see FSD realistically being ready this year ?

Where’d you order your license plate?

Most important question: were you able to keep following Madeleine Elster or did she get away?

Great commentaries.

you are the only FSD beta tester that i'm subscribed to

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of other really good channels!

In New York the driver would have hit the horn before stopping. This is to alert cars behind that something is happening. Wonder if Tesla will ever utilize the horn?

Sounds like New York to me driving in San Francisco. A taxi almost hit me when I was crossing the street in New York

@8:31 I'm not sure if the driving laws are the same in California/USA vs. Canada. But where I live, any intersection is always a crosswalk/right-of-way for pedestrians, regardless of whether there's a painted crosswalk or not. So those two pedestrians weren't crossing in the middle of the street and did have right-of-way.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but if FSD gave the right of way to every pedestrian standing in the street, it would never be able to drive in SF

How does FSD react in an emergency? Such as a popped tire, no headlights, or in hard weather conditions? Such as blizzards and hard rainfall

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't had any of these cases happen yet, except hard rainfall. It performed well in the rain

I think I have seen a dozen of recreations of Lombard street in video games over the years. This is the first time I have seen a real world video of it.

Incredibly impressed by Tesla FSD BETA even with those disengagements. They're really good disengagements. Thanks for this video.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

One thing I don't think I've heard anywhere but couldn't Tesla bring out a Directions maps website service with full 360 video down the road as well. I mean they are going to have video of just about everything at some point if they don't already.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this makes sense, they can also use cars data to update maps automatically. That would be awesome

Great video once again! What's the average consumption on this experiments?

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Consumption? I'm sorry, I don't understand

You know andrej karpathy (director of ai at tesla) tweeted out about your videos!

@Cam-jl2if

3 жыл бұрын

Did u even watch the video?

@GS540

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cam-jl2if I commented before watching because he never replied to him on twitter so I assumed he still didn't know. Simmer down.

@Cam-jl2if

3 жыл бұрын

@@GS540 “simmer down” lmaoooo

@GS540

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cam-jl2if glad I got a laugh out of you young whippersnapper.

A lot of the time when we encountered pedestrians standing still waiting to cross the road, we hand signal the pedestrians to cross which FSD is lacking. The same goes true when two cars came to a four-way stop at the same time. A lot of human gesturing and face reading are involved to decide who goes first. I don't think FSD can do that. Some form of communication between the driver and FSD needs to be implemented for such cases.

@6681096

3 жыл бұрын

Or increase driver education: Always yield to the car that arrived first. If you and another driver reach the intersection at the same time, yield if the car is on your right. ... At a four-way stop if two vehicles reach the intersection simultaneously, the vehicle on the left must yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right. driversed.com/driving-information/signs-signals-and-markings/right-of-way.aspx#:~:text=Always%20yield%20to%20the%20car,car%20is%20on%20your%20right.&text=At%20a%20four-way%20stop,the%20vehicle%20on%20the%20right.

I'm really curious with re to what FSD is 'thinking' at 10:06: it renders the truck in an angle, which could make the system think it could pass it in the way it seemed to be going to do. So the actual position of the truck is different from what the system thinks, and i really think it would crash into the truck. Really wondering what the FSD team thinks of it and how they think to resolve this, as to many situations like this at mass roll out of the beta, will seriously hurt Tesla...

So what progress is FSD making? Waymo vans are driving themselves in many states.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Not in places like this. They are geofenced with pre-mapped routes. They also avoid unprotected turns

I mean a broken emergency light looking like a turn signal is quite a demanding situation, the only things which could indicate that it might not be a turn signal was that the door on the drivers side was opened and that the frequency of the turn signal was double the usual speed, which is an indicator that the opposite turn signal does not work.

did they just hardcoded Lombard Street?

For those interested in more videos from San Francisco, look up the Whole Mars Catalog YT channel. The guy recorded a lot of drives in SF with the earlier versions of FSD Beta.

Amazing video, thanks!

I know emergency vehicles have a special strobe light built in that flashes at a very specific frequency to control traffic lights. Wonder if they made the tesla recognize that same frequency strobe, letting that firetruck command a stop from autopilot. Or, like you said, it's just a fluke from big, red lights mounted up high on the truck.

Funny how it messes up Lombard Street at the same place. Tesla Raj showed how it messed up at the driveway too.

I wonder if the system will learn how to behave based on geographic location. eg how to assume people and other cars will behave while in SFO vs cities in Canada for example.

@AIDRIVR

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I think it will definitely behave differently in different areas. The "California Stop" it does through stop signs going ~5mph won't fly in other states. Also there's some cities you can drive safely and get by just fine, but a place like San Francisco requires you to drive aggressively to get around