I deleted the rolling cache and MSFS has performed so much better without using it.

Wow. Haven’t seen an “A:\” drive listing in about 25 years….love it lol

@853massey

Жыл бұрын

My exact thoughts... A:\ was used by floppy disk drives lol love it too

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes the old floppies; it's the retro-ness in me coming out.

@SoaringGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thought exactly the same. Not sure I could ever bring myself to use A: or B: for HDDs (well, SSDs these days) :D

I use an old 60GB SSD that I had laying around. I tucked it away inside my case and I mounted it as a folder to an "MSFS Cache" folder that lives next to my official folder (meaning that I do not need to assign it a drive letter). I then pointed my cache to that "folder" and set it to 55GB. This way, I do not have to worry about the read/writes prematurely wearing out my nvme drive. Easy peasy...

Nice!! Thank you!! This video was very very helpful. It’s as if I have brand new graphics..!

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

That's great to hear 👍

I have FS loaded entirely on an expansion card on Xbox series S with rolling cache set at 115 GIB , looks pretty good over London City at 1,000 ft alt. in Cessna 172. That storage card is 60.5% filled (1TB total).

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting. Thanks for sharing.

@theaustralianconundrum

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison 115GB rolling cache is wasted allocation. Microsoft recommend 8GB for good reason. Also, flying a tiny Cessna 172 over London city at 1,000ft is perfect for me as well.

Hi, in tests I’ve done, out of interest, I found the following for rolling cache settings….Xbox series X …8Gb, assume same for series S, and PC 16Gb recommended post sim update 5 I think it was. My tests were not definitive and results may vary subject to you system configuration. On PC there may be a marginal improvement if using 32Gb, but only if your using 4K resolution etc.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, I'll give them a shot.

When I first got the Sim, everytime I would rotate my Rolling Cache, it would "stack". The Rolling Cache goes into your "Reserved Space" under the Flight Simulator insall in the "My Games & Apps" section. This Reserved Space is also where your add-ons, World and Sim Updates go. So, what would happen, say I set a Rolling Cache of 8 gigs. Clear and rebuild the RC, and the Reserved Space would increase every time. 8, 16, 24, 32 and so on. It got to the point where the Reserved Space was at 300+gigabytes. I finally, back in January, made the choice to delete the Reserved Space (which also deletes your Add-ons and World/Sim Updates. The Reserved Space went down to 140gb, which is fine. But I also bought the Xbox Storage Expansion Card and now use my Internal SSD *only* for Flight Sim.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this and well worth keeping an eye on the Reserved Space 👍

As an Xbox X user I turn it off and delete rolling cache ever time I fly. I find zero difference from having it on or off. MSFS is not consistent and it’s a roll of a dice what graphics you get on a day to day basis.

I don’t know if thats a solution. I change my cashe reset day to 7 and now I can see what everyone is really flying (if I have the plane in my hangar). Im on series X.

I turned off my cache a long time ago, it wad giving me issues after a update. I never turned it on again. No issues ever after that. I am on a high end PC 13900k-3090. And I got High speed internet.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

I've heard some have issues with it - best to go what works best for your rig.

I’m having an issue following recent update, where it’s now telling me word updates are available. When I download them, they do not disappear from the update list!

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Yikes, might be better getting on our Discord about this.

Hi Huddison!! Do you have any suggestion on when should I delete the rolling cache? Every once in a while?? After any sim session?? Thank you!

@Huddison

9 ай бұрын

Perhaps after a Sim/World update; just as a suggestion.

Using drive A: on an external drive is blasphemous my friend, that was and forever shall be for the floppy disk drive..... :) BTW, just watched your helicopter setup video on the flight stick, I shall be using that and thank you for your guide. I bought the Cowan Bell 222b (I love Airwolf, man) and will be flying that later :D

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

The worse things is, even though I had Dos PC's back in the day, I didn't even think twice about the A drive letter :D Happy Chopper flying 🚁

@thelatman9397

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison So, I set up my flight stick, and came across a couple of weird bugs. So, despite copying the default and renaming it, the sensitivities were all at -25, didnt think anything of it until I got airbourne and none of the choppers would behave, pushing forward to move was a nightmare, releasing the stick she would pull vilently to the back and then roll into a death dive!. I ended up (after a lot of trial and error) setting them all to 0 and that sorted the flight behaviour I set up the trim as you did, and despite the hat switch not being used, the quick look left and right kept activating when i tried to trim laterally. I checked the button assignment and despite them using other buttons (forget which), it still moved the camera & trimmed laterally. I ended up removing quick look left / right which sorted it. I also found it really difficult to assign any of my stick acis, -2 kept popping in during scanning (the stick twist), i ended up having to use the assign buttons bit, rather than scan. I did update the firmware on the stick and I also ran the troubleshooter to make sure there weren't any issues with the stick itself, everything was fine with it and in flight it seemed to behave. Really makes me shake my head that they announced a new one when FS2020 is still a mess. BTW, I run a Series X and London looked Ok to me, well, as OK as a Glasweigian will ever find it! :D

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

@@thelatman9397 Let's hope they iron out some kinks with FS 2024.

I've got my rolling cache set to 8GB on XSX and it doesn't look like that. Looks rough there on XSS. (Edit) just to add I've not got the Orbx update for London yet but I am going to buy it.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

The Series X has a lot more resources & power that it can throw at the sim. The Series S can look great in many areas and it's a marvel it can run the sim and many of the addons.

@LeShark75

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely..

I wonder how big an area the rolling cache actually loads when flying. If I fly across London one day, then the next day I fly a parallel route say 3 miles away, does it still need to load more scenery? The cache may only load a strip 1 mile wide or something. Hmmmm...... 🤔 On my Series X I have the cache turned off and scenery loads quickly but I guess that is to do with the speed of the Internet. Based on how many discussions I have read both for and against the rolling cache my guess is that it probably doesn't work that well.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

It worked very well for me when I was living in London last year with abysmal bandwidth. It still improves high photogrammetry areas for me today, with much better Internet. It seems each person's experience may vary.

I've got a Series X plus the UK WU and Orbx city pack - London does NOT look like that at all. I nearly went for a Series S; I used to think the differences (at least for MSFS) were minimal - just the much reduced draw distance and slightly lower-res textures. I can see why you'd much rather sim on PC.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

The X has so much power to give, but still good it can run fairly well on the S. I choose to fly mainly on PC because of the 3rd party mod support and I can also use my Logitech panels.

@karlnixon5037

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison I think the Xbox version gets some unfair rap. That it runs smoothly at all on S is nothing short of a miracle, as you say! You actually need a pretty beefy PC to get it to run to the same standard as (or better than) Xbox. There exists this idea that the PC version is universally and invariably better, simply by virtue of it being on PC.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

@@karlnixon5037 That's very true.

@theaustralianconundrum

Жыл бұрын

@@karlnixon5037 On Series X you absolutely must disable all the Traffic options to 0% I run Aircraft Traffic Type Real-time online and traffic nameplates off, Multiplayer must be off, Flight model global preset realistic, 100%, Assistance Aircraft systems HARD, failure and damage HARD, Nav aids HARD, Piloting All off except turbulence set to realistic, Points of interest landmark markers OFF, City markers OFF, Airport markers OFF, Fauna markers OFF, display direction and labels OFF

I just updated my series s to the series x, I was getting tired of the melting buildings, I no longer have that problem on the series x. The s just can’t keep up.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

I may be going for a Series X myself in the future; although I mainly fly on PC.

@Scot-land

Жыл бұрын

I also upgraded to the x has I to was having issues with the s

You should really add the caveat that "mileage may vary" because this really depends on setup. I haven't run with rolling cache since after the first world update. currently running with AMD Ryzen 9 3950x 64 GB ram at 3200MHz and Nvidia 1660 super at 3840x2160 and the scale res at 1080p. on ultra settings in dx12, I get around 25FPS on the ground and 40+ at altitude. Of course this also depends on where you are in the world.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Yes mileage may vary.

I have noticed that it helps indeed to un- and reinstall everything again and to install then only the world updates that you really need. Unfortunately, my impression for XBOX Series S is that it is not possible to install all world updates that are located in Europe (this is relevant for me as a European) without experiencing again a decrease in the texture and photogrammetry quality. Does anybody know if it would help to connect the XBOX with an external but suitable SSD drive which is much larger then the internal 500 GB? I really loved the simulation the first months on the XBOX but after a year the graphical quality become more and more worse until it was not playable anymore due to the extremely ugly textures.

I have 29TB of data storage on my PC. Is it possible to download a full HD world cache set and install it locally?

@Huddison

3 ай бұрын

It'll be interesting to see if that is possible.

I'm on series X, and London looks apocalyptic! I've tried it with and without rolling cache and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Oh no, I thought it might've been just a Series S issue.

@specialopssoldier1

Жыл бұрын

im on serious x with 4k 144hz gaming monitor and trust me it make a huge difference i can tell you that right now..buy a better monitor or tv your opinion will change..

@wombleway

Жыл бұрын

@@specialopssoldier1 The monitor won't make a difference, it's the rendering of the London scenery that's the issue.

@kreature6618

Жыл бұрын

I found sometimes clearing the game cache and installing it all again will solve this

I don't understand well what does with the rolling cache... My window 10 is installed in my local (500Gb) disk C: and my flight simulator is installed in my local (1TB) disk D: .... So what I should to do ? By default rolling cache is selected in my local disk C: So ? I'm confused

@Huddison

11 ай бұрын

You could try what I showed in this video and move the rolling cache to your main FS drive.

@fcojaviersanfelixbenitez3199

11 ай бұрын

@@Huddison that's what I did moved the rolling cache to my disk D which is installed FS I will test today

I think it’s more to do with bandwidth but my series X is the same as S really

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

The X is a LOT more powerful than the Series S.

12900+4090+WD 1TB SSD (SN850’s) so at the higher end for pc systems, rolling cache doesn’t really help,I’m on a >100mbps fibre line, I’ve not managed to workout manual cache on the PC….. I think the whole cache system is far from optimised

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

It does all seem a little antiquated.

64gb works for me. I fly only a 500 mile radius of florida an carribean xbox x

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like an ideal amount of cache.

@stacyhill5978

Жыл бұрын

Yes 32 i still get few hiccups but 64 seems better. My xbox only used fir flightsim so 400gb left

@flightlessowl787

Жыл бұрын

I run the xbox series x with flight sim and only run with 16gb cache and don't have any issues at all with the sim

@stacyhill5978

Жыл бұрын

@@flightlessowl787 if you use fast jets an custom scenery ect at airports with full AI thats when higher rolling cache helps.

For whatever reason I cannot change my rolling cache without my game crashing to desktop. It's .5 now and the game crashes if I change anything

@Huddison

11 ай бұрын

That's strange.

I do not use the Rolling Cash at all. I have a very fast internet connection and on my gaming PC performs much better with it turned off

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear.

Not sure why using a different drive should make a difference - should be transparent to any app unless it’s a [gasp] Windows design issue. Also, I thought the conventional wisdom has been to not use a rolling cache at all. I noticed the microstutters filling in the scene in your video just like mine does with the cache disabled.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

The Micro stutters could well be to do with the fact that I'm recording the footage. The Rolling Cache didn't seem to 'kick in' when it was assigned to my C drive.

@john-or9cf

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison Recording could be the stutter cause but cache not kicking in? I have a separate SSD for the cache when I use it and it appears like Asobo immediately allocates the disk space selected. Whether they actually read/write to it is another story so you may be right about it not appearing to do anything. I’ve never noticed any difference at all, cache on or off.

I don't use the rolling cashe anymore.. I really don't think the Xbox series X needs it.. The S most probably does..You cannot compare the 2.. (grafics, power, memory etc) I know you have the Series S to represent the underdog and that's nice but now you don't represent the series X users (and there are way more of them I believe).. The computing power, grafics (4K) and speed of the series X is often better than pc imho.. (it all depends on the pc ofcource) But on the series X I allmost never have any stutters, ctd's or bad looking scenery.. it runs smoothly, it is pretty stable and the grafics are stunning in 4K.. I'm perfecty happy with that :) I do have a fast internet connection though (200mb/s) wich may help... (VR is not that important for me and way to expensive and more ad-ons and perifials are comming for X box so I'll stick to the good ole Xbox (Have you tried the msfs cloudstreaming ? I bet even those grafics look beter than those of the series S.. the downside there is that you can only use the controler to fly.. )

@Mikinct

10 ай бұрын

Looking online the specs are pretty identical between series S & series x. Just one upscale 1080p to 4k. The same cpu, ram & drive speed is larger space nut same ssd speeds.

@Augustiner20

10 ай бұрын

Actually, it is not relevant if the internet connection speed is 500, 200, or 100 mb/s because MSFS does not use more than 50 or 60 anyway. But for me everything is also working better after disabling the cache.

@theowoudstra3660

10 ай бұрын

It sure helps with faster downloading though..@@Augustiner20

Do I need rolling rolling cache 400 MBPS virgin broadband I have pc to modem cable not wireless pc spec Windows 10 64 bit Intel i7 10700K 3.8Ghz/5.1 Ghz CPU Gigabyte Z490 Gaming X Motherboard 32GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX DDR4 3000MHz 2 ADATA 1TB SX8200 PRO M2 SSD Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB SATA NVidia RTX2080 SUPER Thank you

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Might be worth giving it a try and see if it improves certain areas for you.

I have way better luck with rolling cache off on my series X as I am constantly flying in different areas and have very high speeds for Internet.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

It can add a bit more fidelity in high photogrammetry areas.

@tel7625

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison Having it enabled? I’ve got mine disabled as well on my series x currently.

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

Yes having it enabled can help in high photogrammetry areas.

@tel7625

Жыл бұрын

@@Huddison thanks, I haven’t had time to watch your video yet so you likely answered it in the video.

Just delete both caches and never activate them again = 8397469837249387 % performance gain.

What is rolling cache and what does it do sorry noob here

@Huddison

Жыл бұрын

I kind of tell you in the video ;)

@theowoudstra3660

Жыл бұрын

If you fly a lot in one area the cashe saves the last used scenery.. So it won't have to load it all again when you fly there again.. If you fly in different areas everytime you start up msfs it doesn't help (much).. I may be wrong, but it's just because I did not notice any difference.. ;)

I turned it off. No noticeable performance drop. If anything, a slight increase.