From two engines to six wheels: the oddities of the Indy 500

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The Indianapolis Motor Speedway has always been a fertile ground for new ideas. Over decades of competition, many innovations have emerged at the Brickyard along with numerous oddities, often in attempts to gain some advantage without any theoretical basis. Employing a blend of technique and practical exploration, constructors tried a bit of everything in their designs, from cars with two engines to prototypes with the suspension of a regular car. Even without achieving significant results, these models have left their mark on the history of the 500 miles for their complete extravagance (and in some cases, lack of common sense) employed in their projects.
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Source:
www.motorsportmemorial.org/LWF...
www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/t...
www.conceptcarz.com/z18216/hu...
www.gtplanet.net/forum/thread...
flatout.com.br/eagle-aircraft...
www.conceptcarz.com/z20354/hu...
www.motorsportmemorial.org/LWF...
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  • @RacingLineChannel
    @RacingLineChannelАй бұрын

    CORRECTION: At 2:28 the correct text is: 'In the early 1960s, rear-engine cars began to dominate the racing world, bringing an end to the era of front-engine models.' Thanks @donwest5387 and @allareasindex7984 for notifying me!

  • @Dlweta57
    @Dlweta57Ай бұрын

    Landed here by accident, really enjoyed this delve into to the history of Indy cars, many thanks

  • @Blas4ublasphemy

    @Blas4ublasphemy

    Ай бұрын

    Same, subbed

  • @cdjhyoung
    @cdjhyoungАй бұрын

    A 13th place finish is a failure for one car, but a 12th place finish is the proof of success for another? Pretty dicey opinions being offered here.

  • @RacingLineChannel

    @RacingLineChannel

    Ай бұрын

    Actually, I think I cut out a lot of information in the final version of the video, including about these two. The Liquid Suspension started in 13th place and finished in 13th place. The Clancy Special started in 21st place. Additionally, the LS was heavily tested by several good drivers, and there was some anticipation around it (so much so that MG advertised using images of the car). The CS did not.

  • @alias19

    @alias19

    Ай бұрын

    Think of Max Verstappen in 13th (failure) vs. Logan Sargeant in 12th (success).

  • @jacobmassey3897

    @jacobmassey3897

    Ай бұрын

    Well 12th is one place better than 13th.

  • @feelincrispy7053

    @feelincrispy7053

    Ай бұрын

    Ackchyually ☝️🥸

  • @pommunist

    @pommunist

    Ай бұрын

    Finishing the race is better than not finishing

  • @powertothesheeple5422
    @powertothesheeple5422Ай бұрын

    The irony of being an aricraft engineer who designed the least aerodynamic car to ever see the brickyard 🤣🤣

  • @pughoneycutt1986
    @pughoneycutt1986Ай бұрын

    You forgot the Mickie Thompson car with the 12 inch wheels

  • @61rampy65

    @61rampy65

    Ай бұрын

    Good call. Those tires turned out to be the future of how race (and street) tires were designed.

  • @robertlevasseur6843
    @robertlevasseur6843Ай бұрын

    Indy car history is so colorful, unlike F1 which is much more evolutionary. I vividly remember the turbine powered car in the 1960s. It was crazy but effective.

  • @coldlakealta4043

    @coldlakealta4043

    Ай бұрын

    brought to us by our friend Andy Granatelli, the STP man

  • @joest23
    @joest23Ай бұрын

    Fantastic video. Great photos, footage that I have never seen, and cars that I did not know about despite being a huge IndyCar fan. A+

  • @stephenphillip5656
    @stephenphillip5656Ай бұрын

    And there's me thinking that the 1975 Tyrell P34 F1 car was the first one with 6 wheels... Every day is a schoolday! Excellent video - thank you.

  • @61rampy65

    @61rampy65

    Ай бұрын

    You may want to google the Reeves Octoauto and the Sextoauto. From 1908 (I think), the Octo had 4 front and 4 rear tires. The Sexto had 2 front and 4 back tires. These were street cars, not race cars. Not many were sold!

  • @MABfan11
    @MABfan114 күн бұрын

    i would love to see those old cars being driven again, possibly replicas if the original isn't available for use

  • @mikego18753
    @mikego18753Ай бұрын

    VERY ENJOYABLE VID.

  • @SelectCircle
    @SelectCircle27 күн бұрын

    I'm just barely old enough to remember when Indy cars were experimental. It was a thrill to tune in to the race back then. And I was dismayed when uniformity of design was instituted. What a bore.

  • @extragoogleaccount6061

    @extragoogleaccount6061

    2 күн бұрын

    Took me a while to realize how much variation there was. I kinda thought everyone followed what was fastest, but that people generally raced the same basic designs except for big shifts like front/rear engines

  • @TheInkPitOx
    @TheInkPitOx5 күн бұрын

    I've been to the Monterey Historics several times and never had the honor of seeing the Tyrrell in person.

  • @yippeeclawyay2591
    @yippeeclawyay2591Ай бұрын

    This is a really well made video for a channel of a small size, ai voices aren’t the best to start with as it won’t get you too far, but the footage you used is great

  • @trainnerd3029

    @trainnerd3029

    Ай бұрын

    Agree, 100%!

  • @G.S.W.SewmesomeMusic
    @G.S.W.SewmesomeMusicАй бұрын

    Indy was known for innovation and not just in the snake pit!👍

  • @bloqk16
    @bloqk16Ай бұрын

    I was familiar with all the cars in this video with the exception of the Eagle Aircraft . . . that was new to me. In the intro of this video, I'm most appreciative of the producer to inform the viewers of the AI generated narration. Lastly, I was familiar with the race driver Paul Russo, whom drove that twin-engined car at Indy. He was a talented and brave driver, as he also had a history of racing the powerful NOVI roadster in that era, too.

  • @K-Effect
    @K-EffectАй бұрын

    1:29 That seat must’ve been hot sitting on top of those super chargers

  • @davidshiveley4508
    @davidshiveley4508Ай бұрын

    You forgot the STP PAXTON TURBOCAR. it was entered in the '67 event with PARNELLI JONES driving. It blew a transmission bearing with 8 laps to go.

  • @RacingLineChannel

    @RacingLineChannel

    Ай бұрын

    In fact, I made a video about the Turbo Paxton and the Lotus 56 two years ago. The problem is that it's on my first channel (in brazilian portuguese) Over time, I'll translate and bring it here!

  • @coolruehle
    @coolruehleАй бұрын

    That Clancy special looks like a flippin road grader!!

  • @bob_._.
    @bob_._.Ай бұрын

    "The Indianapolis Motor Speedway used to be a fertile ground for new ideas." - I fixed your opening line for you. I think carbon fiber chassis was the last innovation to come from there and that was over 40 years ago.

  • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp

    @DennisMerwood-xk8wp

    Ай бұрын

    First carbon fiber chassis ~ Google: McLaren MP4/1. Not an Indy innovation, Bob.

  • @ElTio.45-70
    @ElTio.45-70Ай бұрын

    Liquid Suspension, BMCs trade name for that suspension was Hydrolastic, don't know why they used other name in the USA market.

  • @RacingLineChannel

    @RacingLineChannel

    Ай бұрын

    BMC probably did that to give a sense of exclusivity to their product, even though it's something already present in other cars. It makes the product "feel special."

  • @terrystevens5261

    @terrystevens5261

    Ай бұрын

    @@RacingLineChannel Hydrolastic suspension was invented by British rubber engineer Alex Moulton, it was first used on a production car called the Morris 1100. (BMC)

  • @coldlakealta4043

    @coldlakealta4043

    Ай бұрын

    I had Hydrolastic in my Minis. Fantastic ride and road handling. They were (and still are) very successful race and rally cars. They are great fun to watch at vintage racing as they kick butt over much more powerful cars, including some "classics".

  • @61rampy65

    @61rampy65

    Ай бұрын

    @@terrystevens5261 Moulton also made a bicycle with a rubber suspension, but I think he only made one.

  • @dicksonfranssen

    @dicksonfranssen

    8 күн бұрын

    @@coldlakealta4043 My friends and I all had Mini's. I even had a panel wagon, the parts car from the local dealer. Now every model made is a Cooper? That used to mean something, not anymore.

  • @noydb-1
    @noydb-1Ай бұрын

    It was way better when a team could make its own car and each car was different than its competitors. Now Indycar is just a spec series with one car and two engine choices, yawn.

  • @61rampy65

    @61rampy65

    Ай бұрын

    Just like NASCAR.

  • @josephfraumeni2829

    @josephfraumeni2829

    26 күн бұрын

    only because speeds are way faster today its about safety today the time tryles at indy speed LAP 239!! MPH

  • @Looney2ing

    @Looney2ing

    20 күн бұрын

    That's formula 1.

  • @9rjharper
    @9rjharperАй бұрын

    Nah. Every single concept was based on a theory. Good or bad. Of course they were, and it’s kinda weird to say otherwise. They were a bunch of smart dudes, trying cool stuff in an era without the privilege of data that we have now. It was a much cooler time.

  • @feelincrispy7053
    @feelincrispy7053Ай бұрын

    Hilarious how that their thinking for adding more grip was adding more wheels and not just widening the wheels lol

  • @jasmijnariel

    @jasmijnariel

    Ай бұрын

    Remember planes with 12wings? 😅

  • @jasmijnariel
    @jasmijnarielАй бұрын

    5:29 such a gorgeous car❤

  • @bbrod14
    @bbrod14Ай бұрын

    Torn: love that this type of content is out ther and it clearly comes from a good place, but not into AI vids at all.

  • @anonymousplanetfambly4598
    @anonymousplanetfambly4598Ай бұрын

    Roger Penske experimented where it counted with the Ilmor 2-valve. Innovation has always had a prominent place in motorsports...but some of the wackier ideas weren't presented quite so publicly as a debut at Indy. They were quietly swept under the rug and forgotten with time. These are the crazier ones for sure.

  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993Ай бұрын

    I believe that the twin Coach Special of 1941 used components from the Gulf-Miller car of 1939 which was the first rear engine car to run at Indianapolis.

  • @donwest5387
    @donwest5387Ай бұрын

    they where all rear-wheel drive. you mean rear mid-engine (Lotus)

  • @sw653j
    @sw653j25 күн бұрын

    No mention of the powerplant in the Eagle Aircraft car?

  • @leechjim8023

    @leechjim8023

    4 күн бұрын

    Either a Cosworth or a stock-block Chevy.

  • @rogerclyde2720
    @rogerclyde2720Ай бұрын

    Indy used to be a place of development that anyone could challenge even from there home Garage, now everything seems to be canned and cloned and cost millions of dollars to compete, a great Tax write off for the rich. I would like to see a race where the cap in spending is 50k and the builders had to use their own ingenuity.

  • @dicksonfranssen
    @dicksonfranssen8 күн бұрын

    One common thread with a lot of these cars is a complete disregard for the driver's life. Imagine hitting the wall in that flimsy sidecar monstrosity.

  • @leechjim8023

    @leechjim8023

    4 күн бұрын

    You're not supposed to hit the wall! You're supposed to turn left then keep it straight!!!😂😂

  • @nelsonbergman7706
    @nelsonbergman7706Ай бұрын

    Indy has a great history but its glory days are behind it. Too many other series to attract drivers and money.

  • @maxmccullough8548

    @maxmccullough8548

    Ай бұрын

    Same with NASCAR sadly

  • @StephanBuchin
    @StephanBuchinАй бұрын

    I must admit I am deeply impressed by the AI voice in this video.

  • @alexprost7505
    @alexprost7505Ай бұрын

    Последний болид возможно затаившийся трансформер

  • @alepaz1099
    @alepaz1099Ай бұрын

    A guy who builds aircraft doesn't know anything about aerodynamics? 🤯🤷‍♂

  • @gemanscombe4985

    @gemanscombe4985

    Ай бұрын

    That close to the ground, not so much. About suspension settings, nearly nothing - but was willing to make changes in secret! Guy needed a tune-up.

  • @needfoolthings

    @needfoolthings

    Ай бұрын

    6:40 In contrast to whoever wrote this script, we see a plane's wing shape. I suppose the engineer did have an idea. 70 years later, we can all say there would have been better solutions. I hope to not come across thus channel so soon again.

  • @soundofdreams1034

    @soundofdreams1034

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@needfoolthingsThe wing appeared later on the car (and the video mentions this). Look for images of the car during the practices, there's no wing at the beginning. Don't be so butthurt

  • @needfoolthings

    @needfoolthings

    Ай бұрын

    @@soundofdreams1034 I'm talking about the shape of the front wheel with its front and rear ... whatchamacallit, skirts?

  • @user-ks8pf5yk4m
    @user-ks8pf5yk4m22 күн бұрын

    I used to be a sign painter and did lettering for race cars decades ago. Never got near anything big time like an Indy car. What I can't figure out is at 4:24, some of the worst-looking lettering ever seen for "Pat Clancy Spl" and the number is on this magnificent car that must've had tens of thousands of man hours and in today's money, hundreds of thousands if not millions, of dollars into its development. So they just let some mechanic or random guy do a half-baked job on that lettering? Like they couldn't have found some legitimate sign painter to spend a couple hours doing it up right? That looks worse than the graphics on a jalopy at the average small town dirt track. Ridiculous!

  • @leechjim8023

    @leechjim8023

    4 күн бұрын

    There's much worse ones than that😂😂

  • @curtisnewton895
    @curtisnewton895Ай бұрын

    2:06 how the fuck do some people manage to have no brakes and no steering at the same time, at that speed....

  • @grinningg
    @grinninggАй бұрын

    balls driving that!

  • @JoeLocastro
    @JoeLocastroАй бұрын

    I will professionally narrate your videos for free if you promise not to use AI again for voice over.

  • @KillyJoe

    @KillyJoe

    24 күн бұрын

    Are you like me. Ai narrated videos make me sick. It just screams to me oh a video made by someone that doesn’t have a clue what they are talking about and found a topic they could make a video about

  • @Sajuuk

    @Sajuuk

    20 күн бұрын

    There's AI voices that sound annoying af and AI voices that sound perfectly OK. Don't conflate the two. I know of many KZreadrs who's voices are worse than any AI. And don't attack AI just because it's AI.

  • @allareasindex7984
    @allareasindex7984Ай бұрын

    Rear wheel drive is not the same as rear engine.

  • @timothyproksch2915
    @timothyproksch2915Ай бұрын

    Run what you brung

  • @briantaylor9285
    @briantaylor9285Ай бұрын

    Wilson waa clueless. Wow.

  • @donwest5387
    @donwest5387Ай бұрын

    4 rear wheels doesn't want to turn

  • @needfoolthings

    @needfoolthings

    Ай бұрын

    Of course, in American "racing", you don't have to turn...

  • @1dave301

    @1dave301

    Ай бұрын

    I had a 2 axle car trailer. One day, a friend had borrowed it to tow his car to my shop. At one point, I had to walk along side the trailer's tires while he was backing the loaded trailer and turning sharply. So much scuffing sounds and creaking, etc. I felt sorry for that trailer and the tires. Semi trucks and other vehicles w/o steerable rear axles go thru the same thing, of course.

  • @user-ks8pf5yk4m
    @user-ks8pf5yk4m22 күн бұрын

    Not always. Not for years. It used to be. Now it's saccharine entertainment, every car the same, no experimentation, no true competitive innovation.

  • @markskrobis9841
    @markskrobis9841Ай бұрын

    So much uncalled for negativity in the comments. Wow. @RacingLineChannel Don't let the b*st*rds grind you down. I took alook at your other channel. I would love to see more videos translated to English and posted here.

  • @markskrobis9841

    @markskrobis9841

    Ай бұрын

    I looked through more of the comments. Most were positive. Anyway, I still want more of your older content translated. Keep up the good work.

  • @RacingLineChannel

    @RacingLineChannel

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you very much! It's good to know that my content has reached other audiences beyond the original. I learned early on to ignore most of the haters, but I admit it can be quite toxic. Thank you for the support!

  • @user-hk5zb4oi7i
    @user-hk5zb4oi7iАй бұрын

    only listen to human beings. Rule 1.

  • @feedboy2112
    @feedboy2112Ай бұрын

    First and last time watching your channel. Narration by AI? No thank you.

  • @joehomoky2393
    @joehomoky2393Ай бұрын

    Maybe it’s just me but why’d we get away from this in the Indy series/ Indy 500. So many innovations, Half baked ideas and interesting tech. All the racing is sooo boring now

  • @alanluscombe8a553

    @alanluscombe8a553

    Ай бұрын

    Racing isn’t boring you just don’t like proper motor racing. Racing is closer and more competitive now than any other time. If you wanna see high tech massive innovation look at f1. The cars aren’t all equal they all have different approaches to the same parts. You pay for that though cause teams with cash that make good on innovation actions blow the field away and win damn near every race due to it.

  • @SelectCircle

    @SelectCircle

    27 күн бұрын

    Will there ever be an experimental racing league again? 8 /

  • @1984jns

    @1984jns

    24 күн бұрын

    There's still great minds and strategies, and usually the 500 is a decent race, not to mention the indy series quality of racing as a whole.

  • @9rjharper
    @9rjharperАй бұрын

    Honestly, you have a pretty snotty attitude about these guys and these cars. “Lack of common sense”? Weird take, and COMPLETE bs. Who do you think they were? They were accomplished racecar engineers and fabricators, breaking new ground. It’s strange of you to look back, with the benefit of decades racecars of all sorts, including these, and say they “lacked common sense”. Have some perspective and respect.

  • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp

    @DennisMerwood-xk8wp

    Ай бұрын

    The Yanks NEVER broke new ground at Indy. It took the Europeans in 1963 to do that. Except for Granatelli's turbine car.

  • @Carnutzjoe
    @Carnutzjoe2 күн бұрын

    You lost me with the AI voice.

  • @Beauxtrux
    @Beauxtrux6 күн бұрын

    Indy and NASCAR are both boring...

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