Although a firm agnostic in regard to anything supernatural, I have a strong interest in the history of Christianity and the NT canon. Your lectures are not only very informative but are brilliantly presented with great clarity and order. If I was a believer I might say you were blessed ! 😀

@iwenolongertrustliars9396

Жыл бұрын

You write like all the cult rulers and their members. JS.

@jussikankinen9409

7 ай бұрын

Human helping poor own will is supernatural must be forced, many cry black life matter but dont do anything to feed black african country children

Woo hoo! The lectures are back!

Dude that was an excellent lecture!! I learned so many things!! Thank you so much for this knowledge, you are a very good speaker!!

Excellent presentation! Thank you everyone who made this content possible.

@jamesglancey7980

9 ай бұрын

Kool

Another great lecture. Thank you!

Dang I missed it live, but so glad these lectures are back.

Thank you for your work...so clear and thorough

The much I think about it, the perfect it get. It's simple to explain: there were two brothers (apostles) selling a promising product in a city, and there comes some one and franchises it.. Paul is the Founder of a type of McDonnalds.

@wailinburnin

Ай бұрын

Deeper comment than glib! Christianity is foundational for Western Capitalism and European Imperialism, beyond Marx to the new paradigm: Religion is dope.

late to the party but feeling blessed to have found the channel. another win for the algorithm. thank you!!!

Really great lecture! Takes all of the nonsense and hocus pocus out of the Christian story by putting it in its historical context, without trying to deny any of it.

Wow!!! Just absolutely worth listening. Great lecture. A must listen. Thanks

Thanks for this video. I believe in a syncretic mix of Jewish-Christian & Western Pureland Buddhism. I love your lectures , May you and The Community of Christ Church be blessed 🙏💗🇺🇲🇨🇦✡️✝️🕉️☸️❤️

For the question about anti-Roman sentiment, it was widespread. The Romans were brutal newcomers to the region, which was itself populated by many ancient ethnicities with long-standing traditions. In 88BC, in an event called the Asiatic Vespers, King Mithradates of Pontus incited the murders of some 88,000 Romans in Asia a single day. The Mithradatic Wars reflect widespread non-Christian anti-Roman sentiment in Asia generally.

Thank you! A hypnotic lecture. So informative and clearly explained in such a short time. Will listen to this again.

Fantastic video

"He never met Jesus" "he never ate with him" "he never prayed with him"... that because he didn't need to... He had to understand the business, not the product... that why he was sucessful... he was exactly like the Founder of McDonalds... the history fits perfectly. Two guys too stuborn, and there comes the Guy who understand the business...

I love these talks✝️

Excellent presentation..amazing efforts

A Master Class, very useful, thank you

Really enjoyed this ❤

Excellent!!!

This one was really great and puts me in mind of the Messianic Jews I've met. I really learned a lot. It would be really interesting to witness a synthesis where you respond to the more learned comments in the Comments. It would also be nice if the Jewish perspective was re-integrated into the various churches, it'd be interesting to see if it would slowly extinguish the remaining antisemetism in society.

@andrewsuryali8540

Жыл бұрын

I think it will instead have the exact same effect it did in the 2nd century when Church Fathers condemned the "Judaizers" as heretics and started the full-blown antisemitic backlash.

@noramcmahon3486

Жыл бұрын

9op

@here_we_go_again2571

5 ай бұрын

Some Christian churches have adopted Jewish feasts and follow the Jewish calendar.

I got a lot out of this. Thanks

Good job, good content. It's, "Love thy God with all thy heart and love they neighbor as thyself." It's been said that conventional Christianity emphasizes the neighbor part first, either forgetting the God part, or minimizing it.🎉🎉

@wailinburnin

Ай бұрын

I get it hat you are saying but, pardon me, “love thy neighbor?” Have you checked out the attitude of “Christians” these days?

@trilithon108

Ай бұрын

@wailinburnin Not saying they're doing it. Just pointing to the admonition.

Excellent lecture. Just one correction, the reference of the verse used in 45:07 is from Isaiah 7, not 1.

One question I asked many times to Christians but they don't respond is how Jewish dietary laws being changed by Christians aligns with the biblical passage of [Matthew 5:17] _Do not think that I have come to abolish Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them_ .

@iAv0

8 ай бұрын

Because it's about fulfilling the spirit of the law not getting hung up on the details. The point of not eating 'unclean' animals is an attempt to remain spiritually/ritualistically 'clean' yourself (and probably an ancient health code to help avoid parasites). The idea is that Jesus is embodying that 'cleanliness' with good moral actions and living the Commandments. He's not just trying to blindly follow the rules but is actually trying to live and act out the morality that the rules imply.

@KatariaGujjar

8 ай бұрын

@@iAv0 That really doesn't answer the question. The spirit of the law (in Jewish Law) is 'don't eat such and such foods'. But Christians discard this law altogether.

@iAv0

8 ай бұрын

But why then? Why are those animals 'unclean', and why can't you eat them? Just because? As far as I can tell it's referring to ritual 'cleanliness'. It's like that other passage where Jesus basically says "What's the point of sacrificing at temple if you haven't resolved your dispute with your neighbor first?"

@KatariaGujjar

8 ай бұрын

@@iAv0 You could say that about any commandment in the Law. But it really doesn't solve the problem of Christians abandoning certain laws, and that is not a fulfillment of the Law but an unfulfillment. Jews refuse to eat the swine to this day, referencing the command in their Law that prohibits it. Christians eat the swine. That's not fulfilling the Law, rather that is abolishing portions of the Law.

@iAv0

8 ай бұрын

Ok, fair point. I think that's one of the main things Jesus argues with the Pharisees about. What's more important? Showing off and trying to earn brownie points by being a strict follower of the law or living the good action that the law is referring to?

40:04 Matthew was written in Greek and quotes the Septuagint, in which the text was translated as virgin (parthenos). Probably he didn't even know Hebrew or the Hebrew text. Either the translators of the Septuagint made a mistake or it shows that the 'virgin' reading is fairly old.

Love the lectures, totally loathe the online services. Thank you!

1:03:50 Christians hardly “invented” this most ancient animosity. The Jews clashed with Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Greece… see Esther 8:17-9:2. The strife between Jew and gentile (that Paul tried to heal) existed because Jewish Law insisted on it. Separation being their understanding of holiness. Don’t eat with gentiles. Don’t intermarry them. Etc etc.

@GeraldSmallbear

Жыл бұрын

I imagine there's a bit more to it than that but it's definitely a part of the issue.

@GodwardPodcast

Жыл бұрын

@@GeraldSmallbear yes there’s a lot to it

@paulrhome6164

Жыл бұрын

And all of those people's clashed with each other as well as many others. Not because of any particular religious division, but because they existed at the same time and that's what neighboring countries do. The specific animosity of anti-semitism is what he's referring to as being started by the Christians. The specific hatred of Jews as a people across many cultures for the fundamental reason of having "killed Jesus" was a new and persistent element regardless of any border disputes or resource fights.

@herminepursch2470

9 ай бұрын

You are describing what human beings do.

@GodwardPodcast

9 ай бұрын

@@paulrhome6164 but there are numerous examples of strife with Jews as a people before Jesus appeared.

44:23 In those times a young woman was like 12 or 14, ready to marry in her culture, and it was implied she was virgin so the word was often used interchangely.

@Herschel1738

Жыл бұрын

It is like the word "maiden" in English - virginity is implied & assumed but not explicitly stated. However, if virginity is central to the theology (because it proved that Jesus had no earthly father and was, therefore, a miracle), and there is a specific & unambiguous word for "virgin", that word would have been used. An ambiguous word was used for Mary to make it match the ambiguous words "young woman" used in Isiah. It was meant to reinterpret the Isiah prophecy as a Messianic prophecy and then claim Jesus fulfilled it.

I also find odd that of the census, but also I think that even if that was made up, it probably was based on something true to even be convincing being in the gospel. Maybe they meant another kind of compulsory counting or arrangement that they called "census"?

I have a question, the presenter says no one was really baptising except the essenes and that it wasnt a widely done Jewish thing, but a simple reading of the torah shows that when you are done being ritually unclean, and ready to go back in society that you would have to be immersed in water and ritually cleansed. The torah goes on to explain a lot of different ways you can become ritually unclean. If there are thousands of Jews, wouldn't there be lots of people being immersed in water everyday, and yet that doesn't qualify as baptism in your mind? Also there are instructions in the torah for the ritual bath to dunk priests in and little bowls are supposed to be all around the temple to constantly wash yourself before going into the next holy place.

@andrewsuryali8540

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the point is that most people then and now don't follow the laws exactly or have interpretations to handle it. Have you ever seen this washing and dunking done by actual orthodox Jews today? If they followed the Torah exactly they'd be getting "baptized" after every single time they mix with the goy. Instead the rabbis have over the centuries created loopholes in the interpretation that allow people to dispense with a lot of the ritual washing or simplify the process. We actually know this was already the case in Jesus' lifetime because of the Hillel vs. Shammai contention found in the Talmud. Moreover, in the more Hellenized parts of the land it was simply impossible for Jews to stay ritualistically pure at any time of the day. Sepphoris, the city Nazareth was attached to, was a thoroughly Hellenized community by the 1st century BCE. Their rabbis must have had a lot of loophole-digging on their hands (which might explain Jesus' attitude towards them). The Essenes are just notable for NOT allowing any loopholes and being really hard-assed about it. Qumran has pools right by the entrance so everyone can wash off the goy before entering their community.

@jamesdewane1642

Жыл бұрын

And the basin on top of the oxen in the drawing of the Temple. There's a question about it near the end of the talk and Mormons have such a basin on their temple.

It's a little misleading the way he says they burn the sacrifice. Although they burn certain parts, they don't just burn it, but they also eat it, which is said to be important in the torah, and there are instructions on who can eat it and where they can eat it. And instructions on when they can eat it, it must be fresh.

@andrewsuryali8540

Жыл бұрын

Innards are burnt, meat gets eaten. This is still being done by Muslims in the Eid, so the statement that animal sacrifice is not done anymore or is rare is just flat out wrong. Every year a billion people sacrifice more than a half billion animals on the same day. In China an average 20 million chickens are sacrificed each year just for housewarming ceremonies. In the Pacific and Melanesian Islands millions of pigs are sacrificed in festivals each year. Animal sacrifice is still very much a well-established tradition worldwide.

Sounds like Paul won out of convenience vs following The Law.

@centreplace I have a question, was Paul from your view a true or false apostle ? If false, what were his intentions ?

@mugumearnold6523

6 ай бұрын

Paul was a true apostle he preached the Gospel to all men Jesus said that you shall identity them by their fruits . Paul really worked his butt off to make sure that the Gospel was preached to the corners of the world however over the generations , people are using the gospel to take advantage of others, like today Rome the Gospel is truth to all who believe

I love u guys

Referring to minute 1:15:10 anf following: Matthew wants to show that the prophetic words of the scriptures are fulfilled by Jesus, and so, the royal presents which are offered by the Three Wise Men, are a fulfilment of Psalm 72,9-11, 9, which reads: "9 May desert tribes bow down before him, and his enemies lick the dust! 10 May the kings of Tarshish and of the coastlands render him tribute; may the kings of Sheba and Seba bring gifts! 11 May all kings fall down before him, all nations serve him!"

I am trying to meet my Christian ladies where they are… I am not sure how to find a Christian community… It’s difficult to find Jesus community where people can understand we don’t know… Can you help me find folks in my community that will love Jesus and not provide doctrine that is not true?

@herminepursch2470

9 ай бұрын

No

Excellent but maybe a few errors. Did Nero have james killed directly. Also " later paul " very different from early paul. But excellent.

These lectures are always excellent. Im still unsure if the primary speaker actually believes in gods or not. And what his opinion of mythicism is. His guest seems willing to color in the Jesus character with speculation.

@andrewsuryali8540

Жыл бұрын

If you mean John Hamer, he's literally a pastor in a church. He's sort of an apologetic for religion and theistic faith in general. It's just that he's coming in from a scientifically defensible background and strives to present a historically accurate view of Christianity. Edit: Also, John seems to have a low opinion of mythicism. He's strongly on the historicist side. There's another lecture where he makes this clear.

Jesus said however believes in his words buts them in action he and his father will come and make a home with him . as long as you believe today you have eaten, drunk and prayed with jesus because jesus is alive and lives in us as long as we believe . this is the truth to who christ is the hope of all glory

Isn’t the Golden Rule found in most if not all religions?

@andrewsuryali8540

Жыл бұрын

No, only "world" religions - those with teachings that are primarily concerned with ethics over appeasement of the gods. This is why there is no Golden Rule in Shinto, for example.

@Sammyandbobsdad

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewsuryali8540 that’s why I said most.

@herminepursch2470

9 ай бұрын

Too bad it's not taught. More

@mattjohnson9753

7 ай бұрын

Not in Islam.

Great points. Great lesson. Although one observation, a few academics established that when Jesus said "i was sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel " (Matthew 15.24) Jesus refers to the lost 10 tribes which are not Jews but israelites. A jew was from the House of Judah (jews and benjimites) the northen tribes were not jews, but israelites.

I myself don’t think Jesus was religious ✝️

The shift happened because Jesus was universal✝️

42:00. I been trying to make you love me....but everything I try just takes you further from me....

I have read Christianity described as the victory of St Paul over Christ.

@mugumearnold6523

6 ай бұрын

The wrong thing is that people hate the truth open your ears that you might hear

So many comments I have. The first thing I have to say, but first the terminology. I use the Evyon to describe a church like organization in Jerusalem. Second I use the ebionites and nazarenes to describe the diasporization that took place after 62. From an abstract level we can think of the Jesus movement to be a 3 step movement of latter day prophets; the baptizer, the parable sayer, and the pious. Each in terms ranks with a lower rank messianism as each stands up to injustice. The baptizer stands up to Herods Corruption, Jesus who stands up against the Saducees, and James who stood up against the High priest. To this the speaker sort of misunderstands what is happening. John the Baptist was beheaded for the sake of Herods step niece - didnt happen Jesus turned the tables over a huge section of the temple pkatform - didnt happen. James standing up and prclaiming the divinity of Jesus before being thrown off the temple - didnt happen. Luke probably doesnt know how James died other than what he embellished from Josephus. The gospels are trying to impart on the dead messianic contenders credentials because they cant be the Davidic messiah, they are dead. According to Tabor, when Jesus fled Herodians, he crossed the Jordan and hoveled in caves south of Pella until spring. After James (and likely other christians were killed) the fled to the same caves. The Nazerenes spread north, the ebionites distributed in Asia. Nero didnt kill James, Josephus tells us the a reckless man took the high priest position and began killing people he did not like when the procurate was vacated briefly. He was sanctioned by the new procurate for doing so. The speaker seems to be unaware of non-greco roman 'christianities' in asia or the role ebionite beliefs appear to play in islam. Ebionite might have persisted into the 7th century. In Mesopotamia there were Jewish Christian sects, one was called the Elcaesites, one of the gnostic branches. Jewish Messianic belief did not fail so much as it fizzle out in the face of militaristic beliefs like Orthodoxy after constantine and Islam. And so we need to make a nuanced point about John the Elder and the church of the ephesians. The christians in this community have an extraordinary impact. Ephesus is dead center in the areas paul visited, it was the church of timothy. It was the town which ostracized the christians form the Jewish synagog and it is the place where we first see an emergent gnostic thought. Moreover, we can see in Ephesus and evolution of christian thinking and a competition in the space of ideas as to what is divine and what is a son of the divine. Some of the ideas of Jesus John gets right, but before this, what is protognostic, what ideas are flowing in and out of it and what does the gospel of John have to do with it. The various gnostic cults are wrapped around an idea of a mystery religion and soterology, the idea that a few elect have the divine insight to reveal their divine inner being. The knowedge of the world and the archons are sort of the bad gods, that you have to mystically explore the inner self (in various cults they take drugs or strip naked and run around hysterically) to find true gnosis (sophia). This type of soterology is found in the gospel of John. The Gnostic varaints to some degree follow a theme but we have to be very careful in describing them as christians driving them away from Judaism in as much as to ask which mans Judaism. We see Judaism in the first century as a triangle, Essenes, Saduccees and Pharisees. Combined these three may have been 10%. While the orthodox of today eould like everyone to think that Judasim was more narrowly defined this is an anachronistic apologetic. Gnosticism formed from various and sundry splinter groups that came to mingle with christianity after the fall of the Temple. There is a notion in places like mesopotamian is that if your king falls in war and the criwn is taken, your god is either dead, or he slips a notch (i.e what happened to El Elyon after the northern kingdom fell). So the authority of second temple judaism was gone and people strayed. So a major fault I see in the presentation is the avoidance of Jesus as a mystic. If we take the account in acts of Peters change of heart to the gentiles then Peter was a mystic. John is reflecting a less sectarian mysticism, like the gospel of Tomas which is the projection of the divine, the salvation and the self on one another (The "I am"s) and this text may have been part of a separate mystical rite in early christianity that paralleled the other teaching. A person who is not a mystic may not catch some of these tropes but they are relatively obvious if we replace prayer with meditation. Amd there can be no doubt, Paul, in his own words is a self described mystic. His vision of a Jesus he never met trumps the pillars in Jerusalem. The anti-Jewish layer in the gospel of John was after the signs gosple, 65-75, which posits Jesus as a true messiah (This is not Evyon idea). It comes at a time in Ephesus where Jews and christians are in conflict, the temple reform ideology of the Evyon is over, replacement ideology is taking place, and where Jewish persecution is on the rise. Moreover, some rational Jews blame the leaders of the Sanhedrin for the war, after all Nero was stealing from the Jews, but committed suicide in the middle of the war. If they had only been more reasoned? Again, there is not one Jewish mind, the idea that all Jews think alike is just wrong. This gives rise to a replacement ideology, if the temple is gone, what is to become the temple, enter the beloved son layer. God did not really want a stone building and sacrifices, he wanted to be loved in prayer and meditation. consequently we have a pantload of Jesus based mystery religions. Everyone has there scholarly opinion and I have mine. There are pretty much two areas of the Jesus literature which we have pretty good chance of stepping in bullshit no matter where one choses to step. The first are the birth narratives and the second are the passion narratives. We can get a feel for this is we read Q (I use DRMs Q+) Because there are neither. From Q the disciples reach Jerusalem and he begins instructing them on how they must mission, it appears he dispatches them, end of story. From the babylonian synagog we have a Jesus who was executed by the Jewish authorities. From the most conservative gospel Mark a few unnamed women know what happened but didnt tell anyone. So I will give my opinion. Jesus followed John the Baptist, anti-herodians. Jesus fled the herodians to Pella. The herodians supported the temple and their elites. Once he enters Jerusalem its only a matter of time until the herodians are onto him. Herods palace is in Jerusalem, was herod there, if he was, there needs to be no other cause, no table turning, nothing. At the end of Pikates tenure, he was corrupt and had a growing relationship with Antipas. All antipas had to do is tip Pilate a few tokens of gratitude and Jesus was nailed. Think about this, If Jesus was such a Rome overthrowing zealot, turning the tables over 1/4th the platform of the temple. Yes? Why wait for the disciples to dispatch, why wait till 3AM. Why have a meeting at such an early hour, why not capture disciples. I mean if he is such a bad dude, you run 200 soldiers, grab as many followers as you can and march them hogtied through town. If you dont want anyone to know what your doing because its wrong, you pay some sap to lie about the guy, trump up some charge, sneak out at night and grab him, have an adhoc meeting where you read the riot act, the pay the procurate a few sheckles for the cost of nails and a cross. All done before his followers even know what happens or can protest his innocence. The girlfirend wakes up the next morning, the guy is already dead, she asks wheres he buried, someone points out the wrong tomb, the bodies gone, thats it. Why hes gone from the cross, maybe he was never there, maybe the herodians just stabbed him and told her that he was crucified. These are conjectures, but they are no worse than the biblical accounts, and thats the problem. When everything is in conflict there can be no right answer.

@JohnAndAaronMusix

Жыл бұрын

Learn to edit

will anyone walk with me between these 2 cities? a modern day PILGRIMAGE!! we can start and end wherever. i would love to do this. it’s 24 days on foot

Was Jesus literate? Is there any historical evidence that Jesus could read and write?

@russell311000

Жыл бұрын

How could HE be since he quoted scripture.

@jamesdewane1642

Жыл бұрын

In Luke Jesus is portrayed as reading from a scroll in the synagogue at Capernaum.

The first half was good (never bought into the infancy narrative). But this guy literally throws away half of Jesus' teachings and interactions (not to mention almost all of Paul) because it doesn't fit his opinion.

Excellent lecture; thank you. Jews love to debate issues. They will debate any issue until the proverbial cows come home. *But they will not be violent!* There is a joke within the Jewish community that "If you get five Jews debating a point in the Tanakh you will end up having seven opinions expressed." [Tanakh = Old Testament/"Miqra"] [Torah = 1st 5 books in the Old Testament aka: the Pentateuch]

Emperor Pontius Maximus Caesar Augustus 26BC 14AD introduced the first, birth date and surname in Syria the surname was usually your trade hence the terms trademark and trade-name if no trade your place of birth. Before that time all Jews only had the one name with the appellation of either ben for a son or bat for a daughter. If no parents like Melkisedek where you were from ie, Salem. That surname is a supernomen an appellation added to or over the baptismal /Christian, Pre-forgiven name no man is born in sin unless he's claiming to be a follower of the Akkadian moon god Sin/ Syn or in Sumerian Nanna who with the goddess Inanna /Ishtar gave birth to Shamash the sun god, their names have changed over the centuries and Empires in different names, they thought the moon lived in Mount Siani.

Luke never called him rabbi.

Religion Geek has no content... What happened 🤔

The reality is found in jesuschrist

The only question I want an answer to and he passes 🤦

Jesus Christ is in Nunawading

God promised Abraham fortune and empire for his loyalty after an angel intervened in the ordered execution of his son. His offspring were later conquered and enslaved. God used Moses to wrought terror upon the Egyptians, including the murder of all first born Children, just like Abraham's first born. Upon being freed from a life of servitude, they wandered through the desert and worshiped idols and debauchery. Only to regroup and enter the promised land to kill everyone there and take it for themselves. All Jewish prophets were doubted and killed during their mission, only to be reworked in Jewish literature as holy men of wisdom later. The profecies are manufactured, much of the old testament is about whether jews can integrate with nations who try to integrate or else oppress them. They are a seperatist group who constantly refer to helping those within amd not those without, often times condemning those outsiders. Rome invaded Israel and killed or enslaved the entire culture, why? Tax riots and rebelliousness is not an adequate answer. Maybe for Sunday school.

To kill animals is ignorant as a sacrifice. Or killing anything. Jesus was not killed as a sacrifice. That was made up.✝️

@mugumearnold6523

6 ай бұрын

You hypocrite read Isaiah 53 then only then would you be to understand

How jewish it was? Christ is a Greek title from Krstios meaning anointed one. Jesus was a man who became the Christ. Mount Athos the holy mountain and St. Paul monastery.

The truth is that jesus is the lord many christians have gone astray because of their many theories because they have lost faith and think that every thing has to be proved let us all repent that we might be forgiven

Question why did the catholics turn christianity into paganism worshipping of mary, those idols this is not what jesus wanted

1:06:21 to his followers, Jesus was never supposed to die he made apocalyptic prophecies that were not fulfilled, and when he died that created a cognitive dissonance in his followers. What came after was a result of cognitive dissonance reduction. The prophecy is reinterpreted and 'spiritualized' going from a verifiable occurrence to a invisible spiritual occurrence ( J Gordon Melton, What Really Happens When Prophecy Fails).

@mugumearnold6523

6 ай бұрын

You hypocrite without you eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Jesus Christ you will have no life in you believe and then you shall be saved

@here_we_go_again2571

5 ай бұрын

Except that Jesus told his apostles in parables that he would be killed and that he would rise from the dead.

I wish everyone in the Abrahamic Faith would realize their Old Testament is the Samaritan Pentateuch and their Book of Joshua is the Samaritan Book of Joshua. Remove this strong delusion...

The worshipping , praying the rosary all these are pagan acts

You took me off the chat because of truth.that is Evil.

@centre-place

Жыл бұрын

Sorry about. If you are referring to a comment, some are automatically hidden by KZread. If we didn't pass your question to the lecturer, maybe we missed it or the queue was already close.