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I think the pharaoh was a Hyksos king when Jacob and his family came to Egypt. In Exodus 1 it says: 8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. So, I think this was an Egyptian king who took over the Hyksos kingdom.

Dr. Bietak thus avoids the Merneptah stele which is before Rameses III. This small group of several hundred is important enough to make it on the pharaoh's hit list. If they are going to force their way through several nations and take their land they need more than several hundred soldiers. I notice Bietak allows the Philistines more than several hundred soldiers.

@501Mobius

3 ай бұрын

Dr. Bietak bases his Exodus date on the fact that there is no mention of Egyptians in the books of Joshua and Judges so it must have been after the Egyptians left Canaan. The last inscription on the Egyptian base of Beth Shean was 1140 BC and the last at Megiddo at around 1130 BC. But, in the Book of Joshua (17:16) the Israelites could not drive the 'Canaanites' out of Beth Shean because they had iron chariots. That was a very well defended abandoned town. In the Book of Judges (1:27) "But Manasseh did not drive out the people of Beth Shan or Taanach or Dor or Ibleam or Megiddo and their surrounding settlements, for the Canaanites were determined to live in that land." Those are some very determined 'Canaanite people' taking over abandoned Egyptian towns. [sarcasm] It looks suspiciously like the writers are avoiding attributing any conflict with Egypt.

I suggest to look at the term hyksos as plebs. It is firstly translated as foreigner (more exact: rulers of/from far away land) and sometimes interpreted as shepherd, as in living on outside land. The hyksos are specific outsiders. See it from the perspective of the grandiose Egyptian in their cultured landscape. Hyksos is more generally applied to outsiders. Kush, for example, in the south. I think the Egyptians saw these people as uncultured. Primitive or even barbaric. Outside of the Nile valley it's the wilderness. Pastoral cultures, nomadic. So i think the term hyksos may mean something in between foreigner and shepherd. Plebs. Rurals. Some are more hyksos than others, it seems. Maybe "Hyksos" are trying te take power right now.

Interesting interview.

He makes a very interesting point about Israel never mentioning any interaction with Egypt after the Exodus. We know for a fact that Egypt was very much involved throughout their history and there is even a Jewish settlement on the elaphtine island in Egypt. It’s either there was a great sense of hostility or they considered themselves so engrossed in Egyptian culture and politics that they didn’t think it was worthy of mention.

@bobSeigar

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Elephantine is like 6 centuries later though, wasn't it? (I do like the rest of your thinking though)

@tribequest9

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@@bobSeigar yes, but they built a temple there so they were very comfortable with the culture and people and vice versa. That couldn’t have just happened overnight, yes?

@bobSeigar

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@@tribequest9 Depends, the culture had, apparently, been around for about 4 centuries at this point. Notably, the archaeological record in Gaza stops in 600, roughly the same time as Elephantine made its Temple. It could have been refugees. Who knows, making an argument from silence tends not to pay off.

Was I the only one who noticed that Dr, Bietak Claimed that naval power for Egypt came from a Minoan alliance? Tribe of Dan, Dannoi, Sea People, Peloset. Some became the Philistines, others Dan?

Which Eqyptian inscription mentions "the Shasu of YHWH?"

@bobSeigar

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Shashu of Yahu* Elkab, 1550 BC

@dianastevenson131

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@@bobSeigar Thank you!

I read a theory that Deborah in the OT is Hatshepsut.

people moved. allies were made and unmade. the weather was good and the weather was bad at different times. Crops were good and bad at different times. sometimes people lived in the levant and sometimes fewer people lived in the levant. the levant was on the edge of good times and bad times. Life was in flux. proto-Hebrews came and went just like any other Bedouin or herder groups. the sea people were sailors. the people who lived near the Jordan were not. they made their living by herding sheep and goats. When Bedouins and herder types were surrounded by great nations; Hittites, Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, and sea peoples. they made up stories about their rich, powerful neighbors. the people of the levant were leftovers, herders, fishermen of lakes, and exiles from the big nations that surrounded them. People that came through the levant required supplies; new sandals, rugs, coats, water, staples, maybe salt, olives, wheat, dates, tents, and cedar trees from Lebanon. the Babylonians came and removed the intellectuals, powerful, and rich. they destroyed Jerusalem (if there was anything to destroy) razed the temple, and left the herders behind because they were useless. Anything the "rabbis" wrote down was on papyrus and was either destroyed or used for kindling because no one could read and had any use in law. When some proto-hebrews returned they returned to nothing. No books, no temples, no religion. they had become Zoroastrians. they had become big city Babylonians. Their religion and culture sprang up from the stories they remembered and the stories of Babylon and Egypt, turkey, and any group of camel riders that came thru on their journeys.

After Gaza, Egypt.

What some bs, when you realise everything is Greek you stop all this religious nonsense talks, Sabine Sancus SAINTS,go forth and multiply, Hellooooooo anybody in there,worlds full of fools.

@corbentaylor7825

3 ай бұрын

If your theory is correct, what exactly is the Greek origin you are inferring is the basis for the exodus myth?