After talking with Fringe, here's the updates to the Dane (as of 6/8/24) 🔹UHMW on the J-cups now extends on all sides 🔹Weight stack guide rods have been upgraded as have the weight bushings 🔹Now comes with pegboard included w/rack (no longer an additional purchase) 🔹There are a few incremental upgrades as well. This list is not all inclusive (fixing the bolt head and nut sizes to be more consistent, additional pegs including with the pegboard, removing the Fringe Sport logo from the uprights so you can use the hole, etc)

@nickwright2470

Ай бұрын

Thank you for providing the update. I have one on pre-order and I was pretty bummed when I saw your comment about the j-cups. Appreciate the honest review!

"I can't even count that low" LOL!!! Classic Gluck

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

😁

Well, you have to appreciate that the summary is put up front. Frankly it's nice to have that first rather than in the last 75 seconds.

Very thorough review man!! Awesome job!!

Great review. I haven't seen much of the Fringe equipment and this was hugely helpful.

Unrelated to your video, but I remember seeing your post about 4 years ago on Reddit, about one of your first videos, and I've been following ever since. Crazy how far you've come !

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Crazy that you're still following 😂 thank you!

Been super busy so haven’t been able to consume content. Finally got some clean air. Good to be back with Gluck. Sweet review mate. ‘Can’t even count that low’ got me. 30% off rep is a solid selling point.

Excellent review!

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Keep up the hard work bro! Love ur videos

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

Another great review and something new to consider. I'm saving up to buy a functional trainer. I've been looking at Jacked up fitness. Would love to see a review on those. Thanks.

Always appreciate your content.

Great video as always! ,also my wife and I love our "die by thigh" shirts and stickers!

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

😁😁😁 Thank you for the support!

@ewells921

Ай бұрын

@GlucksGym of course you guys are my favorite gym channel! Can't wait to see the ares 2.0 (I'm leaning towards that since I already have a rep 5k pr)

Gluck, it's much nicer to get reviews from you. You are actually knowledgeable about the components used to put together these systems. Part by part. I hope you never change like the Finance expert guy. Thank you Gluck

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

I debated going into the math on the cable system to explain the internal resistance but thought that might be a bit much 😂

Love the reviews. If you have plans to review vesta 2in1 half rack or something similar I’d use your link

Can't wait to see the review of the rogue fm6! Do you already have the unit?

Hey bro so Xmark just released a new half rack I think its over priced at 2,000 bucks but I know they make great equipment way better then most companies expect Roug and a few elite companies but it would be interesting if you could get The company Xmark to let you review it . And also why do most reviewers never review body solid and Xmark is it because they won't let the youtube reviewers review there equipment? Great video as always .

Cool review, the FT options continue to grow! It would be cool to get your thoughts on Stray Dogs ATR approach, a little love towards an American made option.

Fringe Sport's customer service is* great regardless of price but factor in their prices and they're exceptional at their price points.

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

You da real mvp

Good review thanks , waiting for that rogue version of this. The one with weights on the side same as this.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

We'll have a review of it coming

I appreciate the budget options making gym equipment more available to the masses. To be honest, most of the top review guys are constantly drooling over the "top 3" brands: Rogue, REP, and Titan. While build quality and refinement are important, I can appreciate your enthusiasm about it, but it's also good to be realistic. The majority of the fitness community is out here DIY'ing attachments like leg press machines, cables, and storage to save money. I see many people falling into the trap of thinking they need NASA-level quality, machines that will last for five generations, and so on. Most companies, with very few exceptions, get the job done. I'm not saying you shouldn't point out perceived flaws, but sometimes it sounds a bit dramatic, like when you mention a machine being "not as smooth." I do appreciate you mentioning the cable length, especially for the 14% of the population over six feet tall. However, it's not the end of the world-a simple cable extension can fix that for a fraction of the cost.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

To be clear there's a clear issue with the cable system causing them to have resistance. It's something that should be and can be fixed. A cable system should be smooth regardless of price. I've used a ton of these systems including cheaper ones without this issue. I've even seen some coming from the same fan ctory (Vesta) and it's the same issue. It's a product of the cable thickness and pulley diameters (there's 3 different diameters being used here). Wynie thought I was too generous with this one and not critical enough. It's a review and these things cost a lot. We should be critical as reviewers so people know what they're getting. I leave the sales pitches to the companies selling this stuff.

@BasilNaaar

Ай бұрын

@@GlucksGym That's fair. It's also a funny coincidence you mention Vesta-I bought their Smith Machine SM2001 six months ago. While I only have commercial gym experience with cable systems, not with Rogue and other brands, it felt pretty good to me. However, I understand that you try dozens of these machines and equipment and for good reason have a more informed opinion. Again, I appreciate the videos and reviews. I'm always trying to bring my friends and family down to earth when it comes to gym equipment. Some people feel like if they aren't using Rogue water bottles and stickers, their gains aren't coming. And with they economy, sometimes, that $1,000 you save, can help you finish building your home gym.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Very true. People get hooked on brands and develop a loyalty or whatever and it's hard to convince them otherwise. I love Fringe and they've already changed quite a few things I talked to them about on this but I thought for $2500 there were some over sights I thought people should know about.

I like the little orange tractor on the storage shelf.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

My son had to represent

Peg board looks fancy with the Drink Spotter on it

I agree with you. I was excited to see another entry into the functional trainer rack combo space, but that depth is a deal breaker for me, along with the lack of height options. My 126 square foot basement limits what I can use. I'm currently using an 80-inch REP PR-5000 short rack with the plate loaded lat/row attachment, and it juuust fits.

Looks like a great value, but that start weight is a bummer. Hoping to see more details on the peg board 👀

Says we fall asleep while watching, fell asleep and had to watch twice 😂

This thing is a HUGE value.

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

Hell yeah

0:35 you got the rep functional trainer with storage?!?! How is it?

When you compared pricing for the Rep and the Dane were you factoring in the included attachments as well like spotter arms, J-cups, extension feet, landmine, etc... and comparing the Rep prices with all those added in as well?

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Yes. The builds are as close to identical as you can get.

Can you review the Griffin Talon?

What are your thoughts on the Talon from Griffin?

Any chance you'll be reviewing Rogue's functional trainer rack FM-6 or FM-HR anytime soon? I'm debating between that and REP's new Aries 2.0.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

We'll be reviewing the Ares 2.0, and Rogue Single and Twin stacks 😁

Solid review!! Love the details about some of the cons I didn't see in the "other" guy's video 😉. The lack of a pin slot for the first plate would drive me nuts, and I think a 2:1 ratio plus some plate pins and heavier stack is just a better option since you get the extra cable travel, smoothness, and can still load heavy for pulldowns and rows (so long as the cable itself is also rated to handle heavy weights). I think you should definitely check out the MAXUM Fitness SX2 next, honestly seems like one of the best options I've been able to find with some really interesting and unique features! On paper seems to beat even premium options like Rep Ares/Athena especially for value with all the features and attachments that the MAXUM includes.

Broooo, Coop literally just dropped this 30 minutes ago! Great review though! Too bad they don't ship to Canada.

@Mrwatson185

Ай бұрын

They probably have media approved release times. 2 good reviews is better than none!

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

I'm sure their timing was intentional 😂. Fringe just gave everyone a release date, no restrictions.

@gunsmokezz

Ай бұрын

Your like me , rep or rogue then 😊

@mattjw08

Ай бұрын

They can you just need to email. I had the belt squat delivered to Canada.

@JShear3050

Ай бұрын

​@GlucksGym they just had to give you one restriction. "NO YOU CANT CUT IT IN HALF"

I like the 1:1 ratio, sure it isn't as smooth as other options, but you're getting more weight you paid for to workout with. It would be like me selling a 45-lbs plate, but only allowing you to lift 22.5 pounds of it. Plus, this will work with any rack that is 3" x 3" with 1" holes so a person could choose to make their own Frankenstein power cage with elements from many different companies, which I love. I am sure that something might be better, but I hardly doubt the bigger companies can come even close to that price point. I am curious which other outfits will follow suit and make more improvements.

Is the lat pulldown seat available separately? I might buy it, with ur afffilate link of course lol.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Yep. Here it is gluck.fit/FringeLatSeat

Have you tried lubricating the guide rods? That seems to be a major point of friction on many of the cable systems I've used.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Yes, I lubricate and check over everything we build. The issue is in the design of the cable system itself.

I'm just wondering how much time you spend setting up racks, cable systems, and other equipment for review! Speaking of rack equipment, any plans on reviewing the new PRx Halo Arms that drop soon? You showed them in your Home Gym Con video and those are at the top of my list but need a review before deciding.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Honestly way too long. Between research, testing, filming, editing, etc these videos take well over 40 hours each. The Halos were interesting. I've been talking to PRx about doing some reviews so we'll see what comes of it but I'll get to get my hands on them if that's what people want to see.

@kyles8391

Ай бұрын

@@GlucksGym look at the bright side for having kids, cheap labor for equipment setup. I bet you could do a video just on tips/tricks on how to assemble a rack, cable machine, etc. Definitely interested in the Halo Arms. Griffin 2.0 has articulating arms but with a lot fewer pin hole settings and you can't lock out the arms laterally. If you get a chance to review the Halos would be helpful if you think they're worth keeping on the rack full time, especially if you've got a cable system such as the Ares 2.0 in place and how that would work.

Hey Gluck, question for you. I don't see any reviews on Fringe's Osprey Power Cage, but you mentioned the Dane is based on the Osprey. How would you compare the Osprey Rack to the Rep PR-4000? I'm just looking to get a power rack and the Fringe is a lot cheaper in price. Would you recommend it over the PR-4000? They seem very similar on paper from a build perspective. Thanks!

@GlucksGym

22 күн бұрын

The Osprey is the base rack for the Dane. It's literally the same rack. The Dane is the functional trainer add on, the Osprey is the rack. The Osprey is a 3x3 1" rack so it's technically more like the PR 5000 (3x3 1") rather than the 4000 (3x3 5/8"). Anyway. If you're just comparing uprights, bolts, and crossmembers they're incredibly similar. Near identical quality. Rep has better (and more expensive attachments) but they're swappable between the two as their dims are identical and they're both imported. So use our link and buy whichever you want 😉

@MuhanadOmar

22 күн бұрын

@@GlucksGym you the man, thanks for response and insights!

When it comes to pulleys with bearings, I've in the past learned while assembling do not over tighten. It will rob the aluminum pulley a lot of it's natural function. I've always been a tighten for life kind of guy lol.

I'd like to see an option without the functional trainer. It's a beautiful half rack and the storage is a value adding feature for sure.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

That would be their Osprey rack. It's the same thing without the FT and with less finish options atm.

I would love to know what the reason is for it not being as smooth as Dialed Motion or Rep’s cable systems. I’ve used a few home gym cable systems and experienced exactly what you said in the video. A tiny bit of resistance in the cable. Thought it was so cool you mentioned this! Wish someone could dig deep and find out what the true cause is: Pulley bearings, cable/coating thickness, bushing type, alignment/tolerancing, design, etc.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

I believe the primary culprit is the thickness of the cables and the pulley diameters. They're using three different diameter pulleys. This is essentially a rebranded machine and the others suffer from the same thing.

This rack - as shown - seems like the perfekt rack for me... get it once, have all you can ever want in a life time. Unfortunately I'm in the EU and don't have the money to purchase even a barbell and a set of plates. So there's that. But at least it's good to know that there's better priced options out there.

Let's get a plate loaded version!

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

Not on the roadmap, but we will consider in the future

You and garage gym reviews on the same day?

Thanks for covering a budget option! Great review. Some of the big time channels (rhymes with poop) forget about the average joe and only review the high end stuff!

@melkorbane

Ай бұрын

Poop literally reviewed this exact rack on the same day

I think this would be a good place to start if you don't have a rack and want a more budget-friendly option with a functional trainer. I'm still not too sure if I would use a functional trainer enough to warrant the cost. Would likely go with Dialed Motion regardless.

Wish these companies would come out with 80" version for my basement gym

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately that wouldn't work with the 1:1 ratio on this one because of the cable travel.

Man I’d love to see what their margins are on these. Lots of included attachments!!!

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

Margins are good. We'll be able to keep the lights on :)

@ozzy8422

28 күн бұрын

@@PeterKeller247 Any plans on shipping to Europe? The only 3x3 (or 75x75mm) with 1inch holes are rouge and their cheapest with pin/pipe is 2 000 USD with shipping. It must be possible to make a lot of money for anyone that offers a cheap rack to us.

How is rhe lat pull down with this rack? It looks like when doing lat pull downs they have to be done at a angle since the trolley does not sticks out enough like a regular lat pull down.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Correct. You can not pull straight down.

I'm a real man, I can't even count that low :)

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

😂 I liked that one

i like 1:1 but you bright up some other valid issues that would prevent me from dropping 2k+ on this.

This would be in contention for me if I was looking for a rack, especially if they update with your feedback. I have a lot of Fringe stuff.

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

This is a great rack at a GREAT price as-is. Buttttttt.... we *are* making a few upgrades that will make it even better. Don't tell anyone that I told you ;)

@toddyecies2881

Ай бұрын

@@PeterKeller247 If we order it now will we get said upgrades?

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

@@toddyecies2881 the upgrades are small, and will roll through in Oct/Nov. Not yet

@AimLow3

Ай бұрын

@@PeterKeller247so just wanting to confirm, I’m almost pulling the trigger on the clear coat pre order. It wouldn’t be due to ship until October or so.. does that mean it would have the updates or should I wait to order if I want the updates? Thank you!

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

@@AimLow3 order now only gets a couple of small changes. We will roll through more updates later (Nov/Dec)

Vesta fitness! Has one with Smith machine!!!

Were you able to get a full stretch on the last pull-down?

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Yes. I mention it and show it on the vid (sorry for the lack of time stamp) but at 6' it's pretty close and I do have to put the seat a little lower than I'd probably like to.

Would that low row foot plate fit on the foot of a PR-5000 Athena setup? if so, that would be a reason for me to go Athena for the better build quality. If not, the Dane is way more versatile for the price and quality difference.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

All the attachments will fit directly onto a PR-5000

@locsmiths

Ай бұрын

@@GlucksGym Thanks Gluck! Might be best to get the Athena and try to get the foot plate for lat and low row until one can upgrade to the back stack attachment.

It is great other than the 15 pound start weight on the functional trainer

I wonder if they are going to fix the pins hitting the cables or send out new pins to customers who paid for the Dane.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

They can just include their mag pins as they'll interfere less or move the pin holes to the side

Do you think the cable system will continue to degrade in smoothness over time?

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

No. I think the issue is the cable thickness and potentially the pulley diameters (they're using 3 different size pulleys). This is from the same factory (IMO) as the Vesta 2:1 which has similar issues with the smoothness of the pull.

Does the half rack need to be bolted to the ground?

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

It does not! The front feet stabilize the rack. That, and the damn thing weighs a ton

The only downside to me is the cable travel length but having a one to one means they can ship you less weight stack which is why it must be cheaper.

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

We have a "daisy chain" coming that will extend the effective use length

The low row feet plate i believe isnt free. Its additional $119

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Low row plate is not included in the base price. It is an additional purchase.

@futbol1972

Ай бұрын

How is rhe lat pull down with this rack? It looks like when doing lat pull downs they have to be done at a angle since the trolley does not sticks out enough like a regular lat pull down.

15lb delt raises? Heck, after my shoulder injury, 15 ounces was too much. Years later, 8 lbs is pain threshold for reps. Still working towards 10!

What do you think about their clear coat?

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

It's very well done.

Does the Dane compete? What options would you like to see us review?

@countryboy7263

Ай бұрын

Can you review the option to swap out the Dane for a Rogue Functional Trainer? 😂 Kidding aside, Fringe Sport has the best customer service I’ve encountered. I’m slowly adding their stuff to my previously all Rogue line up because of a great first impression.

@melkorbane

Ай бұрын

Honestly, yes. Rep has worse build quality than Rogue and is close enough to the same price now that you literally have to prefer their “features.” This is an actual budget pick. $2500 for everything you get here is a really solid deal.

@renes4302

Ай бұрын

I would love to see a review on Jacked up Fitness functional trainers. Love the information you share. Thank you!

@andreadalex8893

Ай бұрын

Please review, also you, the "FORCE USA G3 V2" !!! I think It Is the best buy all in one Power rack Smith machine funcitional trainer...with all option like jammer arms leg ext curl leg Press dip lat pulley row !!!! Absolutely outstanding at incredibile price range you can have All in !!! Please try this !

a wall-mounted athena reference!!!

Wait for version 2.0.

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

You might be waiting a long time.

@TheGhu123

Ай бұрын

I got patience. Also any large pieces I will wait for Black Friday.

@PeterKeller247

Ай бұрын

@@TheGhu123 we haven’t fully planned, but I do think this bf will be SICK

1:1 ratio🙏

Here for the real reviews, not sales pitches

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

😂 I didn't mean that to be a dig

@mariolp2999

Ай бұрын

for example.....

Solid overview. I keep wondering how awkward the plate storage is inside the rack. Seems like it would be a huge pia to grab plates from inside with a barbell on the hooks?

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

Correct. You can put weight horns on it too but with any of these that block the sides it's always a bit awkward to get in/out. Like for a spotter for example.

Yep!

Seems to be a run of the mill Alibaba import. Would rather go with a Stray Dog ATR or Rogue FM-6

Why don't these companies just ask Gluck BEFORE they start designing and building their equipment?

Hi

These companies would make money from me if they had short ceiling options. LOL

Ohhh Garage gym beat you by an hour on the review video.

I have a theory; this is not an coincide.

Fringe doesn't deliver to my area

third

you and GGR post this within minutes of eachother. Yours is better!

Have not watched both reviews yet but I already know… Gluck did it better.

no wonder his views have gone down he's just trying to be negative to get views but his complaints make no sense it's too heavy for my wife with the weight of the pin well then just do the pin no weights.

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

They weight stack starts at 15lbs. It is impossible to start at a lower weight because the pin (which we show) is a part of the first plate. I appreciate the watch though. Our views have never been higher 😁

@dbzfactseeker4421

Ай бұрын

@@GlucksGym i don't understand just do the cable no weight it's really hard complaint to justify sounds like you really had reach for that one... sounds like you can't take criticism but you like to give it even if it's a stretch the weight starts at 15lbs so sad.lol

Do you think its worth it to get one of these or to save up for the Rep ?

@GlucksGym

Ай бұрын

If you can save up I would go with an Athena. I'm sure Fringe will improve this but it's not on that level.