Bill could have Fran on every single week, and it would never get boring. Love listening to whatever they discuss.

@sas6561

Жыл бұрын

An extra $100 G's to Bill if he can engage with Fran, and keep eye contact without constantly fiddling with all his stuff. His focus stays on more ice, moving this glass over there, that bottle over here, looking for matches, lighting his cigar, pouring the drink, oops, time for more ice, getting a refill, the cigar needs another light, where is the ice!!! ... "now, where were we?"

@anneturner2759

Жыл бұрын

@@sas6561 lololol

@Simon-talks

Жыл бұрын

Fran is such a leftist nutjob, i'm glad he got this episode over, I can't stand listening to her

@scottbrandon6244

Жыл бұрын

Fran strikes me as someone to enjoy a long dinner with. No smart phones, no interest on the latest on the Kardashians, no interest in social media. Just old school conversation like the old days.

@sas6561

Жыл бұрын

@@Simon-talks ... Maybe when Scorsese does a documentary on you, you will have as much gravitas as Fran. Sorry for your envy and jealousy @user!

I loved this interview because Fran doesn't let Bill interrupt. Finally!

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

He does have that bad habit.

@dpa103304

Жыл бұрын

Kevin Neelan was subtly pointing it out to Bill. Bill has a tendency to make it all about him. Good thing he never got married.

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

@@dpa103304 many divorces.

@SixStryng

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesholland8057 What? He has never been married.

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

@@SixStryng Mr Subliminal.

Fran was the politest guest on this show that I have seen. So many of Bill's guests speak over him and he speaks over them, creating an unpleasant hearing situation for me. Fran allowed Bill to finish his sentences and he allowed her. Very pleasant to watch. Lastly, she is worth listening to.

@user-dt9qg4lk4c

9 ай бұрын

He seldom doesn't hold forth, interrupt, and talk over guests. It's like his guests just provide a backdrop for his lecturing

@baybae92

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I disagree. When I think hosts who speak over their guests, Bill Maher is the first that comes to mind.

@citygirlphotos.tutonelyles4386

6 ай бұрын

Julian Lennon was also very polite and a real gentleman.

@WardenJune

5 ай бұрын

That's because they are high.

@delam3869

2 ай бұрын

@@WardenJune So true😂😂😂😂

No-one quite like Fran Lebowitz. So very sharp - she kills it with every phrase.

One of the few guests that doesn’t let Bill dominate the conversation.

@acas6551

Жыл бұрын

Out of sheer respect

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. He’s becoming more of a bully everyday.

@calkeys

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I love Bill but he's REALLY bad about this

@lolamann4705

Жыл бұрын

Pot ramps him up. I’m the same way. I get really manic and have to let out everything that comes into my mind.

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

@@lolamann4705 lithium will take care of your manic episodes.

Finally, a guest snarkier than Bill

@colewilliams9432

Жыл бұрын

She is hilarious. She should start vaping though

@b_i_l_l_w_i_l_l_i_a_m_s_o_n

Жыл бұрын

@@colewilliams9432 nah, fuck it. Let her enjoy the cigs

@HankBukowski

Жыл бұрын

@@colewilliams9432 Beta male. 😂

@janene4855

Жыл бұрын

@Cole Williams did you see the part where a 4-year-old approached her about smoking? Don't be that 4 yr old. No one appreciates it. We all have our own vices. Some of our vices are detrimental to us, and some are detrimental to others - offering unsolicited advice falls into the latter.

@nickpaz9113

Жыл бұрын

Right! 😂

I thought I'd pee over Fran's story of correcting the grammar of the thug-looking guy on the street. I'm still laughing. She can't help herself. Love this woman. I wish I could hang out with her in her apartment with 10,000 books --literally!

@braxtonspivey24

10 ай бұрын

Remember ma'am "the plural of mouse is mice not mouses"

Every single time Bill lit her cigarette, she replied, “Thank you.” I don’t know what it was about that that made me smile. Love Fran!!

@anneturner2759

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@TheBent139

Жыл бұрын

If you are old enough, it is likely the nostalgia and formality that brought on your smile. I smoked for a very short time as a teenager because I was an athlete. But I always was quick to light women's cigarettes in clubs because it was an easy icebreaker.

@thecapricorn11

Жыл бұрын

🚬

@hwinsalot3804

Жыл бұрын

Same thought

@bobbybrown5473

Жыл бұрын

More importantly Bill replied, “You’re welcome.”

"Do whatever you want, just don't be noisy". Amen, Fran

@Charleybones

3 ай бұрын

That attitude shows just how shallow and ridiculous her philosophy on life is. Imagine even for a minute what would happen if everyone just did whatever they wanted, to whoever they wanted, as long as they kept the noise level down. What an absurd thought. She thinks like a spoiled 5 year old.

@sbloome77

3 ай бұрын

Her comments are gold…quintessential New Yorker and American

@wendyw4487

Ай бұрын

HOLY PROBOSCIS!!!! with a schnoz like hers, old franny just has to be an expert on NOSY!!!!!!!!

@Mr._Moonlight

25 күн бұрын

It’s a joke! Fran Lebowitz is a funny satirist and very sardonic. I can’t believe you took that quip of hers so literally.

Fran Lebowitz is a legend and a gem

Fran is always my favorite guest of Bill's. These two together is an entire vibe!

Long live Fran Leibowitz! She still makes me laugh and think!

@64onyx

Жыл бұрын

Jesus bro..She only looks like the crypt keeper, she's not dead yet

@nickpaz9113

Жыл бұрын

Love her!!

@josephkelley8641

Жыл бұрын

Twas a joy to behold (this episode). Laughed throughout. Laughed even when I wasn't supposed to! @ (anticipating where Bill/Fran would go next).

@davereynolds7472

Жыл бұрын

Former SNL head writer Marilyn Suzanne Miller was one of Fran's biggest supporters. Had us start reading Fran way back in the Spring of 1982.

@davereynolds7472

Жыл бұрын

MSM teaching a grad level comedy-writing course at Columbia.

I can't think of anything better than listening to a conversation between Bill and Fran. Best episode by far.

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

Fran is great.

@judyesau1997

Жыл бұрын

I sooo agree!

@Simon-talks

Жыл бұрын

are you a bot or something?

@andrewmclaughlin2701

Жыл бұрын

I wish Bill and Ann Coulter could do their magic again.

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmclaughlin2701 magic. Funny.

Love love just Love Fran’s straightforward honesty!!!

Best episode yet. Fran is a formidable sparring partner in conversation.

“Call someone who knows how to save you” 😂😂😂I love this woman

Amazing guest Fran puts Bill right in his place, And that’s always nice to see.

@ryancalhoun2910

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say she put him in his place

@donmacpherson5498

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!! About a hundred times You DO NOT talk over Fran. Even Bill doesn’t stand a chance. This old broad is a whip. I love her.

@ryancalhoun2910

Жыл бұрын

@@donmacpherson5498 wise words from an ex Syracuse QB

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

She is smarter than he is, especially when he’s blasted on the pot.

@StacyTlaughitinandlaughitout

Жыл бұрын

When your have the Democratic Party confused on WTF an actual woman is I was done! When you have the Democratic Party sending billions to Nazi Ukrainians & homeless folks under every bridge Mississippi & Flint Michigan still with unclean water it’s wrap! 🤦🏾‍♀️

Fran Leibowitz is a fantastic character. Honest and authentic.

@suzibarlow3611

4 ай бұрын

Stop. Fran. So sophisticated talking to a drunk...funny drunk...but aging. She stays fresh with intellect and compassion.

She’s brilliant. It’s calming to hear someone so smart.

Yep. This was amazing. They had disagreements but man, Fran definitely cracks Bill up! Her delivery has always been so unique and Bill genuinely finds her interesting and wants to pick her brain…Fran is a legend and its on full display here folks. They weave in and out of serious topics but with a sense of humor which is a classic concoction of “you either get it or you dont.” For Fran & Bill fans, this is a real treat! The real super bowl!

@heidiho3089

Жыл бұрын

What you said, exactly!!!

@user-sv9nb8ky2t

Жыл бұрын

This is the way adults talk

@deborahrose8621

Жыл бұрын

Could not have said it better myself! In fact I didn't say it better 😄

@en6278

9 ай бұрын

Bill laughs at every guest

These are my favorite kind of episodes of this pod. Two people I find very smart just shooting the shit for an hour usually on topics that require some intellect.

@JeffreyGillespie

Жыл бұрын

They are both very smart. They are not smart because you find them to be so. 🙄

@jghoward9304

Жыл бұрын

​@@JeffreyGillespie q1+q

I’ve watched this like 10 times. Love these two together!

Excellent episode! My favorite so far. Bill and Fran are two very smart, funny and well matched individuals. Please have her back very soon, I didn't want this episode to end 🥰

@akinproperties9671

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, So smart yet so stupid... Bill knows kids today are clueless on what they learn in school, he even admits Democrats manage the education in this country and says in this cast, 'Democrats own education' .. So, why are kids so stupid now days? It's obviously because of the stupidity of democrats, which think they are smart... yet they are so stupid.

@OMGWTFLOLSMH

7 ай бұрын

This is this first one I was able to watch all the way through, and in one sitting. Its almost 2am, ugh. As a fan of both of them, it was a great conversation, and I'm shocked that Bill actually let her speak without interrupting as much as he usually does.

These episodes are why I love this show. Fran is a living legend.

@Simon-talks

Жыл бұрын

She's such a distorted left wing nutjob wingbat...

@bogdannila1478

Жыл бұрын

a legend of what? she makes no sense

@anneturner2759

Жыл бұрын

No bs with Fran , love that.

@Simon-talks

Жыл бұрын

Frans is such a far liftist wingbat nutjob. Even liberal Bill Maher has to correct her.

@LlyleHunter

Жыл бұрын

She’s a brutal realist and ironically hilarious. I miss her regular columns since she retired.

As a childless never-married older person, it’s so nice to hear people like me talking about these things that we have in common.

@Rays_Bad_Decisions

Жыл бұрын

It's almost as if corporate feminism screwed over woman to get cheaper labour...

@drewmcmahon2629

Жыл бұрын

Sad life.

@sicknado

Жыл бұрын

@@drewmcmahon2629 there are other things that people can connect to. Thank GOD they are showing love to something other then another human being

@drewmcmahon2629

Жыл бұрын

@David David just had a stroke. You ok David?

@DR-nx4fu

Жыл бұрын

@@drewmcmahon2629 You're a mean B.

I love Fran. She makes me feel like I can say and do whatever I want.

@laurasebakijje9008

3 ай бұрын

Me too

@lisathomas5719

2 ай бұрын

Same

I could listen to Fran all day 😁

What a terrific guest, what great chemistry between Fran and Bill.

@josephkelley8641

Жыл бұрын

"Excessively surly" LOL many times over - i.e. IMAGINING Fran as a child/teen!

@pikebishop8516

Жыл бұрын

@@josephkelley8641 she is looking like Muhammar gaddafi circa 76 when he had long hair!!!

"The last time I didn't smoke in 24 hours I was 11" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 OMG🤣🤣🤣

Thoroughly enjoyed this whole show and conversation. My mom said all the things to me that Fran heard in her home. I was told " Children are to be seen and not heard."

Many of our youth don't know that this is one of the smartest and funniest humans walking this earth! I love her and have for years.

I like Fran she’s clever and honestly funny. She can keep Bill inline. 😂👍

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

⚡️

@hurdygurdyguy1

Жыл бұрын

She's sharp as a tack!! Her reprimand of Bill, "I gave you an example I thought you'd understand!" 🤣🤣🤣

@jamesholland8057

Жыл бұрын

@@hurdygurdyguy1 good point Mr. Bannon.

She hasn’t changed one bit. I forgot how much I enjoyed listening to her .

Wish the podcast were longer. I could listen to these two talk all day. I aspire to be just like them in the future. I don't want kids, I don't want marriage. I just want a successful career doing what I love.

I can tell Bill really likes and admires Fran.

God I love her. Anytime I see her it is a must-watch because she is so funny, insightful and honest.

@sjmac9737

Жыл бұрын

she is a political moron. completely out of touch with reality.

@BishopWalters12

Жыл бұрын

She's a smug c@@@.

@jasonanthony4659

Жыл бұрын

I didn't think she was a her, and now I feel like a terrible person. I have a trans sister and I still couldn't tell this bitch from a gay man. How the fuck am I supposed to have a serious conversation in this landscape?

@Simon-talks

Жыл бұрын

She's such a distorted left wing nutjob wingbat...

@gerrybernard4429

Жыл бұрын

She's neither, I find her arrogant, entitled, and above everyone. She's weird

Even though Fran and I have almost nothing in common, you still gotta respect her confidence

This is like watching my aunts and uncles getting wound up. I love it. I am 46 btw.

@AlfredHimmelweiss

2 ай бұрын

he is 68 and she is 73 and me is 57 and i am enjoying this for this reasons. funny.

This is a fantastic conversation. I love Fran so much and Bill and she work well together, agreeing or disagreeing. Excellent episode.

Best Club Random to date. Enjoyed seeing Bill laugh at Fran’s comments, plus they weren’t constantly talking over each other & interrupting. More please.

Good to see Fran Lebowitz, I haven't seen much of her since the pandemic. She is quick . Thanks for having her on Bill.

I could have enjoyed their conversation for hours. Fran definitely made Bill laugh more than anyone I remember. 😊

What an amazing conversation. I’ve never seen Bill so vulnerable. Nice to see.

Can Fran be a guest monthly? 😂 Great banter!

Absolutely electric between Fran and Bill - loved it.

She's the first guest who looks comfortable in those chairs

@helenablavatsky9136

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I'm convinced she could turn a stool into a recliner. Lol.

@AlfredHimmelweiss

2 ай бұрын

LOL...i have not seen the other guest and my thought was she is comfy in this chair.

(0:41) Bill’s view on NYC mayor Eric Adams didn’t age well. Fran is obviously an adept New Yorker.

Love this format. It's great watching them smoke, drink and the conversation gets better the longer they smoke and drink!

Nobody say’s “I don’t care what you think” with more class then Fran Lebowitz ! I love it how everybody cares what she thinks….. Nobody cooler

@willmercury

9 ай бұрын

She makes a fine doorstop.

I'm encouraged to see her still so energetic, sharp and youthful. Here's to many more years of her acerbic, wonderful presence on the planet.

@Elhastezy888

Жыл бұрын

BEST Comment! Cheers to that🥂 💓

@skylinerunner1695

Жыл бұрын

@@Elhastezy888 Aw thanks. Now I feel ten feet tall 😀

@Elhastezy888

Жыл бұрын

@Skyline Runner 🤩 Oh goody! I'm glad. Your comment immediately made me think of my mom. How truly truly phenomenal some folks are & there's no pain in the world like watching someone amazing change ..... & then slowly go away. It's a big deal. Your sentiment is a big deal 🩶 Hope you have a great day. many blessings

@skylinerunner1695

Жыл бұрын

@@Elhastezy888 You're so right about that. Time is a good but merciless teacher, and the knowldge of loss and the inevitability of fading away has haunted me since childhood. I'm happy my words brought your mom to mind, and I'm even happier that you reached out so we could share these thoughts and makke a connection.

@Elhastezy888

Жыл бұрын

@Skyline Runner 🥰 me as well.

Great conversation. Fran is great.

This is my favorite...Fran is on point..bill is relaxed and it a natural flowing conversation...awesome.

J Seinfeld said that comedy is like a smoke ring that can't be explained. That's Fran Liebowitz--- she's astonishing.🙂❤️💯

I love Fran Lebowitz.

Bill ... the University of Phoenix has online courses that teach how to focus on the other person in conversation. How to listen without rudely interrupting, how not to fidget with your stuff etc. to at least show real or even feigned interest. The courses are reasonably priced. (You're welcome!)

I could watch them for weeks straight and never get bored😅

Wow - Fran Lebowitz!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you. My favorite person EVER. What a pair - EPIC. I’ll be watching this one over and over. Damn!!! ❤❤

At one point I was expecting Bill to say, get off my lawn! Fran, a delight to have on the show.

I love Fran. She's the type of celebrity you wouldn't dare approach to say you're a fan tho.

I miss her weekly writing since she retired. She’s always been there for all of my sixty years and she influenced my thought process very early on. I was reading her work in The Village Voice before I got out of elementary school.

Finally!!! I love it when Bill and Fran converse for us all!! This made my day!!!

1hour and 40 minutes of Fran Lebowitz? Probably the best contribution to society that Bill Maher has ever given!

The old Smoking Section of airplanes segment is HYSTERICAL!

Best episode yet. This was watching 2 masters of their craft.

Fran made this her podcast, which is the kind of guest needed to match maher’s vibe

I home schooled my kids. They knew things they should have, learned beyond the requirements, and accumulated life skills as well. Everyday tasks were some kind of lesson. Ie: math/budgeting /healthy eating choices, while shopping. Home school is producing more intelligence than any indoctrination station can.

I love this woman. Smart, funny, I love her. Every single time I listen to her.

As hard as he works - it's nice to see Bill having fun.

@mikewhite4560

Жыл бұрын

Like Tom Brady, I want BILL to be HAPPY.....

PLEASE!!! Make this one a series! Fran & Bill Part I, II, III IV, ad infinitum... !!

@dianel.5764

Жыл бұрын

Let's start a petition to make this a weekly show!

@AuntieFa

Жыл бұрын

YESSSSS!!!

I always enjoy listening to Fran because I always learn something when she speaks.

Maher really enjoys Lebowitz as I've never seen him do with any other guest. I believe it's totally sincere and the best thing about him. The fact that he continues to interrupt her only shows how much she excites him intellectually.

VERY HAPPY to see Fran here!

The more I listen the more I realize these two are actually twins. It’s wild

Fran is one of the most interesting guests a talk show host can have. Intelligent, humorous, sarcastic & never boring. When alive Joan Didion & Truman Capote were also both interesting. With the demise of people like Joan, Truman, Andy Warhol & William Burroughs, you'd want a Fran Lebowitz at your party.

This was so engaging. 1 hour and 41 minutes and I wish there were 12 more.

Fran...when the eyes go you can always listen to audio books...saved my mother in her later years and she was also a real voracious reader.

@starrycrown

Жыл бұрын

And you can do more than one thing at a time!

A Story about Travis Kalanick, not seeing taxi driver, and not knowing the name Travis Bickle, is sheer ironic perfection. Love you Fran.

@Rays_Bad_Decisions

Жыл бұрын

Really??? Listen to it again she harasses a guy then picks on him for not knowing the name from a movie that came out over 10 years before he was born... We are also talking about Taxi Driver not exactly a good or positive movie... I like taxi driver am into film and get it's value. But noone is missing any part of life by not seeing it. Not to mention that guy has created multiple companies

I've had the privilege to talk with Fran and I can tell you she is always on. So intelligent and funny and, this may surprise some though I don't know why, nice. She could tell I was a little nervous and kept coaxing the conversation. By far the highlight of my life.

Bill and Fran…best podcast ever! Fran is an amazing person and your wit and Fran’s wit Bill had me laughing. Made my day!

I love Fran. Such a quick wit.

@jasonanthony4659

Жыл бұрын

So true, and yet I wanna tell her she's unattractive and testosterone. I hate the confusion.

@mikewhite4560

Жыл бұрын

Is that still LEGAL?

@Mint-kj9kw

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonanthony4659 You're basing her value on her looks??? If you find old interviews of her on David Letterman, she was actually hot in her 30's. That's what a lifetime of smoking will get ya...

She's one person, among very few, who Bill simply cannot dominate in a conversation.

@maryokeefe5351

Жыл бұрын

He cannot hold a candle to her.

@ninadganore

10 ай бұрын

@@maryokeefe5351 he can

@elinstar6034

6 ай бұрын

Nah, he can't. He seems a tad unfocused to me, but still determined to have his say.

Best podcast Bill has done. Fran is so sharp and so amusing and both are a delight.

@jacquelinemeadows7658

11 ай бұрын

Second time i watched. I'm totally smoking alone

Last 45 minutes he’s stoned silly and she’s running circles around him not being an addict. Entertaining.

She’s like a living cigarette.

@willmercury

9 ай бұрын

It's rarely discussed, but Fran was cloned from a biopsy of Moe Howard's right lung.

This is one of the best episodes thus far, I like when Fran challenges Bill. I suspect he does too!

@quester09

Жыл бұрын

they have a great flow

@Rays_Bad_Decisions

Жыл бұрын

Ya but she's willfully iggnorant to hold onto her political like religious beliefs. Republicans volunteer more and give more to charity. The vaccine provides zero immunity. All the race ghettos are run by the Democrats. She's desperate to defend her sacred cow

@Mandrake591

Жыл бұрын

@@Rays_Bad_Decisions That’s a lot of misinformation. I bid you a good day.

I'm a right leaning person and I find Fran to be a fascinating person. Great show, Bill.

@jjrockjaw

Жыл бұрын

Are you a nasty, cranky old lady as well?

@CLJ9676

9 ай бұрын

Same, as they say opposites attract.

I adore Ms. Lebowitz. She embodies NYC.

This episode was a GEM.....and Fran Liebiwitz is National Treasure! ❤️👍

This was great because Lebowitz is just as opinionated as Maher and more obstinate, so we didn't get an hour of Maher lecturing and ranting his opinions to another celeb without pushback. And because they're friends, she was comfortable on his turf.

NYC woman here... love CH (have all of his books, even "Missionary Position," and I'm a Catholic, and not only cried when he died, but had many people text me condolences). Also, I have seen both [sic] Godfather movies MULTIPLE times!!!

One of the best interviews yet Bill. You can learn a thing or two from Fran Lebowitz . I love Fran.

Fran Lebowitz is great! Glad you hd her on th show!

@r.p.mcmurphy6623

Жыл бұрын

Is 'hd' now short of 'had'? And 'th' for 'the'? Crazy 🥴

I love Fran! This made my day 👏

I love the part about British accents. If that´s not enough, try Scotland. I was once a guest at a lady's group in Scotland. There were about 12 people and it seemed like every one of them had a different accent. As an honored guest, they placed me next to the eldest lady, who was at the head of the table. Her accent was so thick I could not understand a word she was saying. I kept having to say, "I beg your pardon." Finally, a younger woman seated across from me took pity on me and actually translated.

Bill, "You're everywhere you're like Poison in the 80s, the band, not the....." Fran "I know what you meant" hahaha

I am English, and I discovered Bill Maher 3 weeks ago, through this podcast series. I think I have now watched everything he has ever done on TV, he is a F....... legend! Also I have lived over 50 years, and until 30 minutes ago I had never heard of Fran Lebowitz, she is fantastic!

@Pargolak

Жыл бұрын

😎🙄 really?

@xerxes2044

Жыл бұрын

seek out old clips of his show real time from like 5-15 years ago. was a lot better.

@poppyfromaus3888

Жыл бұрын

Woman in Australia here - I watch his show and podcast every week and feel a part of being there - check out his #adulting gig- enjoy Brit in Poland 👌😂😎🇦🇺

@abritandhisbikeinpoland6802

Жыл бұрын

@@poppyfromaus3888 thank you 🇬🇧🇵🇱

@abritandhisbikeinpoland6802

Жыл бұрын

@@xerxes2044 yes thanks, TV shows world wide are all pretty much dumbed down and softer! The podcast age is f..... amazing, because the guest can "almost" be themselves and not play up the formulated "expected target audience " but as a Brit I do prefer the Americans and their podcast shows, Burr, Rogan, Maher etc etc the British seen has gone diversity woke sick 🥱🥱😡🇬🇧🤮🤮 especially the BBC, or as we call it, the British Brain Washing Corporation, or Bullshiting corporation

You can tell Bill really respects her.

"Obviously the man is a health nut!" 🤣🤣🤣

Fran, I love you. You speak, I listen. Even if Bill’s there. (Nothing’s perfect.)

@keatsgipsy9991

3 ай бұрын

😂 hilarious comment

I was raised the same, and I am Gen X. As a child, I would be quickly escorted out of the room if the adults were talking. A look was all it took to stop me dead in my tracks. I LOVE Ms. Lebowitz! I've always thought running into her on the street would be so awesome. I think this is my Favorite episode.

@flakesinyershoe8137

Жыл бұрын

Nowadays kids can use every profanity in the book and threaten adults whenever they want because punishing them is racist.