Hope she sues and gets the rv for free plus damages

@ericb6784

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't want that constant reminder of almost being fkd over by a very large corporation.

@adamwest2130

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericb6784 I call bullshit. If you got it for free I doubt you would care very much you want Scott fucked over by a company, cuz in the end you fuck them over

@charleshowell8128

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericb6784 I would ,then you would also be reminded that you stood up to a giant and won. Hell yeah .

@crabbyoldman1022

3 жыл бұрын

That’s not how courts work. The most a court would do would be to make the dealership honor the 240 payment plan.

@charleshowell8128

3 жыл бұрын

@@crabbyoldman1022 you never know now a days. People are tired of being taken advantage of by corporate America. You might be surprised,the spoils go the winner.

I’m not a lawyer, don’t play one on TV, and didn’t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express, but changing a valid contract and trying to collect on the changes would appear to be fraud.

@siriustraveler7083

3 жыл бұрын

It is she should sue although it took 5 years and she purchased a what for how much 🤣🤣🤣

@eriks8382

3 жыл бұрын

I slept at a holiday express inn but even I can tell you this rv company is full of shit

@Arakasi22

3 жыл бұрын

And breach of contract. A good judge is needed to void the contract, award the RV to Mrs. Pueblo as paid in full, award her court costs and damages from General RV and then to start an in-depth, full-scale investigation into the company and all of its current and previous contracts. They should make them suspend operations until the investigation is concluded too. Really drive a wedge up their asses and then give them jail time to boot.

@angelo_giachetti

2 жыл бұрын

Its stealing by subterfuge, fraud or otherwise deceptive practices and that is a crime in all states. And, I did sleep in a Holiday Inn.

I would park the RV out front of that business EVERY WEEKEND and have a sign made telling potential customers about their shady practice and blast it all over social media !!

@ronnieam33

3 жыл бұрын

@buhao pengyou Great finding a lot a fraud every day I think the Demcraps are going to start crying again like they did in 2016 very soon!

@jamesowens2781

3 жыл бұрын

@buhao pengyou troll POS probably China

@WASTHATABULLET

3 жыл бұрын

@buhao pengyouwe talking about biden the president of the United States who was grilled for wearing a mask during a political virtual meeting by the politicians and leaders of other countries and recently "BANNED" by his own administration from answering questions after some inconvenient facts were uncovered from his most recent drs visit and hunter emails with china?

@djjeckel65

3 жыл бұрын

I can see real that she has 119 payments and one big ass balloon payment the big balloon ass payment is not covered up it's not smudged that would tell me that you have to pay it off before your time is up are you get stuck with this big balloon payment

@Meekerextreme

3 жыл бұрын

@@djjeckel65 the rest of the contract says 240 payments, the contract should be voided. Sounds like General RV is a scam of a business to me.

I don't know which is worse, the RV stealership ripping her off or signing a 20 year payment plan on a vehicle.

@Adroit1911

3 жыл бұрын

It's not really a standard "vehicle" though, right? More of a house that drives around a bit like an average vehicle. A 20 year loan on a house isn't bad. Say the house is lean free, getting prepared to become rental property. She's retiring, has income generating property and her home that she can drive anywhere in north America and freely park her home on more available usable public land than any other continent. I'm more than sure that the asshat who modified that contract is definitely worse. I wouldn't be side to find out that he has lost everything he's ever had in life and is now living on the streets with a shoe with a giant hole at the ball of it. Wish we could Thanos the universe sometimes.

@kesalexander4800

3 жыл бұрын

Obsolutely

@jonboy9734

3 жыл бұрын

A vehicle that cost the same as a house....

@Adroit1911

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonboy9734 if not more! Go check out some double push out motorhome.

@rm5282

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adroit1911 unless it is the Tower of Pisa I would hope that a house would be lean-free. Lol...just jokes ...you have a good point.

General RV needs to make it right. Sounds like a scam. She needs to take them to court.

@dodgeplow

3 жыл бұрын

The DA needs to file criminal charges. That's what needs to happen.

@montemaguire4596

3 жыл бұрын

And if shes not the only one it should be a civil lawsuit

@djjeckel65

3 жыл бұрын

She is the the scam

@djjeckel65

3 жыл бұрын

@@dodgeplow why its clear as day she has a big payment to make of 63000. Look at the yellow paper

@ronnieking3848

3 жыл бұрын

@@djjeckel65 Do you work for General RV? Have you seen the original paperwork?

He was laughing because he got you. The dealership is a Fraud and should be shut down. It's clear that they are scammers. The owner(s) and staff members should get prison time.

@quantumtechcrypto7080

3 жыл бұрын

HE PHONE # IS 8*0*1* - - 3*0*7 - - 1*0*7*0* SHE IS VERY RUDE TOO SO ITS ALOT OF FUN TO BUST ON SOME CRIMINALS CORPORATE JERKS

@quantumtechcrypto7080

3 жыл бұрын

@Desiree Wyatt yes local here in utah where this happened. They keep calling me and hanging up on me know?it was supposed to be me doing it??? Losers.

@floridareedsreviews

3 жыл бұрын

Remember, after the salesperson is done with the contract, it goes to a finance person/team. With the salesperson, the contract may have been left as she agreed to it, but the finance person/team changed it. You can't condemn the entire company, or even the one sales office, without knowing all the facts, and the news rarely presents all the facts. Their job, after all, is to sell a story that elicits an emotional response, not tell the truth. And before you come down on me as supporting the company, I have no affiliation with them. I just hate to see people making blanket statements about a group of individuals for what may be the actions of one.

@jenniferross8793

3 жыл бұрын

@@floridareedsreviews Maybe the co-workers or some of the co-workers aren't aware of what's going on and the innocent should not be found guilty of others actions, I get that, the innocent should not be imprisoned. Those who knew and did nothing about it and the mastermind of this deceit should be imprisoned.The owner/owners of the business should do the right thing and rectify any wrongdoing that occurred with the financial amount of every contract with this issue no matter how long it has been since the purchase was made. Not to make necessary adjustments on the owners part means that they have no problems with taking 💰 from customers that they are not entitled to which makes them no better than a thief who break into a home and steal or take the money or credit cards that's in a wallet. It tells others that they don't care about customers who helped their business sales and put food on their tables and it speaks volumes about their character. This place should be shutdown and as much as I wouldn't want to see anyone without a job and have to find a new position, to knowingly and to continue to work at any business place where owners don't acknowledge and correct wrongdoing makes the employee no better than the ones they work for. I would have to question such a persons character as well. Working with and hanging with thieves or those who steal or take from others will eventually rub off on you, next thing you know, you go from being an upstanding person to becoming a criminal and a liar. The good news is that if the place is shutdown, as it should be, employees can file for unemployment.

@STScott-qo4pw

3 жыл бұрын

those involved with this fraud. c'mon, the grunts in the shops, groundskeepers, receptionists, custodians. I really don't think you meant them at all. that said, everyone in the dealership responsible for drawing up these documents, reviewing them, signing them - oh yeah: jail. jail. jail.

When a salesman says, "let me see what I can do..." it's always bad.

I worked in auto sales for 4 years and normally people are usually just dealing with buyers remorse, or whatever, but this is next level shady and exactly why im reevaluating my career in sales..too many places try to cheat people in one way or another. Wish her all the best in getting this resolved

@OriginalBoldtruth

3 жыл бұрын

YOU don’t have to cheat anyone. Twenty years in the business and I never cheated anyone. Be the example.

Sounds like fraud to me. Lawsuit and Fox 13 should seek out other General RV customers to see how many people they have done this to

@interestedparty00

3 жыл бұрын

Even if not fraud, they prepared an ambiguous contract so they are they ones that must suffer for that.

@QALibrary

3 жыл бұрын

this type of switcharoo is common and RV and car salespeople can and do a lot of work under the table to get people signed up to hit targets or have money flow etc or short out the paperwork after the customer have left

@pthesmith

3 жыл бұрын

It was the finance department. They sold her on the term of 240 months. The finance COMPANY did not agree to lend under those conditions. So, instead of telling the customer the deal fell through, they doctored the paperwork. The edits reflect what the finance company offered.

@pthesmith

3 жыл бұрын

I imagine a lawyer would tell her to keep making the payments outlined by the original contract. The doctored contact is null and void.

@greenearthblueskies8556

3 жыл бұрын

@@pthesmith 💯

Salesman wanted commission so he messed with the contract. If I was on the jury, she'd win.

@shirleyrussell7089

3 жыл бұрын

Sue them. "BOYCOTT "

@upstatekennels4677

3 жыл бұрын

I would think there is a criminal charge there as well. Either way if I had the reputation this company claims to have, then I would pay off the credit union and set a contract with this customer for the remainder of the 240 months at the same terms. Win for the customer and I.

@johnlyn1

3 жыл бұрын

It is the finance person that did this. Salesman do not handle the finance end. This is major bank fraud and wire fraud since the financing is handled through electronic communication. Each that carries a 30 year prison term.

@quantumtechcrypto7080

3 жыл бұрын

HE PHONE # IS 8*0*1* - - 3*0*7 - - 1*0*7*0* SHE IS VERY RUDE TOO SO ITS ALOT OF FUN TO BUST ON SOME CRIMINALS CORPORATE JERKS

@reddalchemy5970

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

In 20 years that thing is gonna be worth $1200 in an auction!

@lelandfranklin3487

3 жыл бұрын

20 year VEHICLE loan is crazy. And she just noticed after 5 years there is a paperwork issue?

@seratonin7004

3 жыл бұрын

@@lelandfranklin3487 she didn't have that paperwork - it was sent to the bank

@elgoog7830

3 жыл бұрын

@@lelandfranklin3487 I can kind of understand a 20 year loan for this sort of RV. Some people buy these as a home and travel permanently. But it seems this lady bought it as luxury. Which a 20 year loan, is silly stupid, considering her position. And her lack of standing up to them, is why they decided to take advantage of her in the first place. Salesmen easily sense a gullible sucker, like this lady. Most salesmen hate people like me because I will not let them push me around and I ask very detailed questions, make them repeat it a couple times and verify it's documentation. They really are scum bags. They're the same kind of scum a lawyer is. Which is why the one in the video, sounded so utterly useless.

@plecoguy

3 жыл бұрын

Looking at all these comments I can tell most people don't own an rv. Camping has become the most popular thing to do, thanks to covid. Rv prices are through the roof and campgrounds are booked solid years in advance. Our friends just sold their 8 year old gas rv for 80,000. Last year a site at our campground sold for 160,000 in 3 days. Memberships have gone from around 1500 to 6000+ on the secondary market.

@wertiaaudit5746

3 жыл бұрын

well yes but its probably going to be all damaged or have parts that aren't in production anymore. Not saying you can't use universal parts or find them but I think theres probably gonna be a stupid law lobbied by RV companies to prevent you from living in an RV that's older than 20 years because of safety and liability hazards even if you maintain it.

"We can't talk out of customer privacy" But.. we are calling for her

They should investigate the bank employees too.. seems like a major scam.

@tallthinkev

3 жыл бұрын

Highly unlikely a employee could be on the take, or even the branch, unless payment is taken in cash. Very easy to see money coming in and out of someone's account

@komerwest3748

3 жыл бұрын

It was someone in their financial department did that

@rachelmarylani

3 жыл бұрын

Almost every autoloan I've heard of, the lender does an interview with the buyer to confirm the payment and length of the loan. Especially with a huge amount financed. I would think that its automatic. Yup, I would investigate the lender too.

@PedroMartinez-nl1gr

3 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely correct, it's very strange.

@theresabootie6541

3 жыл бұрын

@@rachelmarylani ive never done an interview with the lender for an auto loan.

If it takes you 20 years to buy an RV you cannot afford it!

@michaelc9217

3 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@davidmorley1606

3 жыл бұрын

Dave Ramsey rule #1

@joyhouse5992

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why I got a used one $7k with 20k miles on it and best part $100 a mo

@greenearthblueskies8556

3 жыл бұрын

That’s her BIGGEST error.

@AskAgainL8ter

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing! Do RVs even last that long?

She needs to sue for damages. Plenty of attorneys out there will take this on a small retainer and for 30% of the awarded damages.

@therealvirgoqueen6553

3 жыл бұрын

Less than that because there's a few cases here 💯

@DNSMLT

3 жыл бұрын

Lawyers don't charge to sue someone.

Another case of "Everyone cares that it happened but nobody cares to try and fix it"

20 years on the most rapidly depreciating vehicle made should be a crime in itself. I wish you the best of luck.

@niq872

3 жыл бұрын

yea paying for 20 years on a vehicle is crazy

@lisajean228

3 жыл бұрын

Yup....my Dad got a similar “deal”, took him years to get out from under the loan and sell it. Pretty sure it went upside down.

@crystalyj30

3 жыл бұрын

I seriously thought I misheard. 20 years? This is criminal.

@mattsmith9270

3 жыл бұрын

I agree a 20 year loan should not be allowed. But I feel like common sense and personal responsibility should come into play here.

@supercooled

3 жыл бұрын

@@crystalyj30 it’s a home though albeit on wheels. People do 25 year mortgages.

She is being scammed it shows it in the paper work. 240 months then in one spot 119 with 240 behind it. It is clear as night and day.

@justice4896

3 жыл бұрын

@Billy Mack, Texas Detective 😂🤣🥲😂🤣🥲

@greenearthblueskies8556

3 жыл бұрын

👍🏽

@greenearthblueskies8556

3 жыл бұрын

@Billy Mack, Texas Detective Not all people watch the videos, they go straight to the comments...so you can’t speak for ALL.

@isaac198428

3 жыл бұрын

@@greenearthblueskies8556 Yes one Should always watch video or read an article first before commenting otherwise it's dumb to just comment from reading the title alone since they don't know what the heck they're talking about. Lol

@senorpepper3405

3 жыл бұрын

@Billy Mack, Texas Detective yeah BUTT, wiping your backside is essential while reading youtube comments are not.

Everyone who had this happen to them should have their entire loan cleared courtesy of General RV! That would be the perfect restitution and General RV should have to pick up the final bill at whatever financing company financed that person's RV

If this is how they act when called out than I'm sure this isnt the first time they pulled this. The problem with companies is they always get away with just a fine for commiting crimes that would lock a normal person up for decades

@testboga5991

3 жыл бұрын

You can hardly luck up a company

@readhistory2023

3 жыл бұрын

@@testboga5991 The company isn't run by ghosts and the owners are not exempt from prosecution for their wrong doing. Hiding behind a company logo isn't going to do anything.

@maximo6037

3 жыл бұрын

@@readhistory2023 oh but generally it does shield them

@InuranusBrokoff

3 жыл бұрын

@@readhistory2023 Happens all the time.

thank you for this story, my wife and I were ready to purchase from General RV... NOT NOW!

@robj2704

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the news will get around and they'll have to fold.

@thecaboose6591

3 жыл бұрын

That's scary! I'm surprised they're still in business

@danmcclellan2451

3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly why general RV should make her contract right! They are going to lose a lot more business than $63,000!

@Darth-.-Vaper

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Purchasing elsewhere.

@StickerVR

3 жыл бұрын

Taking my hundred thousand to GA RV WORLD NOW

The dealership broke the contract, it should be null and void.

@Adroit1911

3 жыл бұрын

And she should keep possession of the vehicle. Legally. So fucked

That consumers should contact the State Attorney General as well as the United States Attorney General this is basically a clear case of deceptive fraud

@djjeckel65

3 жыл бұрын

The only one committing fraud is the girl clear as day that you have a big balloon payment and she brings us up after 6 years she found out that every year you have to do maintenance on it whether you drive it or not can't just sit and let it rot

@djjeckel65

3 жыл бұрын

@Jimi Jam line 2, 1 payment of 630000. It's in the thumbnail as well

@trentgay3437

3 жыл бұрын

@@djjeckel65 added after she signed as well as the 119 payments instead of 240

@alexpineiro7960

3 жыл бұрын

It’s criminal racketeering. There’s no way she is alone. This is classic sleazy salesmen tactics. Always sit and go over each inch of final documents before signing even if it takes 2 hours. Tell the salesmen to go find something else to do for a while. Any effort to rush you or statements like they’re getting off soon or have other customers waiting are VERY big red flags. Tell them if that’s the case run me off a copy to take home and read and then you also have that if they alter after the fact. I usually do this based on “I” have to be somewhere. If they alter and don’t leave obvious disparities as in this case, you have the original to bring with you for comparison. Just have them sign the copy with the remark, “final agreement” and signature. It’s a copy. They should have Zero problem writing on it.

@glorioskiola

3 жыл бұрын

@@djjeckel65 you must work for general RV. Troll.

In March I went to General RV in Michigan because they sold the brand I wanted. After looking we sat down to crunch some numbers. I was given a final price on the camper but when I told them I was paying in cash the price went up $200! That was a red flag for me and I walked out.

If I was a judge I would be recommending the DA look at criminal charges fir forgery

@420frankp

3 жыл бұрын

That is why you're not a judge.

@greenearthblueskies8556

3 жыл бұрын

@@420frankp But you’re an idiot though

@JohnWickkkk

3 жыл бұрын

@@420frankp 😂😭

@420frankp

3 жыл бұрын

@@greenearthblueskies8556 flew way over your head. And 8 others. John got it tho.

@billybeemus3929

3 жыл бұрын

Nowhere in the video do they say that the contract does not match the original signed document. It seems she did. not read it before signing. That does not make it invalid.

WHAT? General RV already knows that the Utah Department of Commerce is already recommending the case be closed??? Who do they have in their pocket?

@Connjur

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking!

@southerntommygun1353

3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing. This thing smacks of corruption, scam and greed.

@davidmorley1606

3 жыл бұрын

They recommended the dealership be closed not the claim.

@southerntommygun1353

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidmorley1606 Ah, thank you for the clarification. That makes a lot more sense.

@SpookyUnitProduction

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't make out if the reporter said 'case' or 'place'. 'Place' seemed like an odd choice of word.

When she said she was selling her plasma just to make the payment my heart broke. That's terrible, this is predatory and disgusting. I hope this is settled in her favor and that this dealership is shut down. They're no better than drug dealers or bookies preying on others naiveté.

@tjd2326

3 жыл бұрын

Lol common 🤣 its an rv. Not like shes tryn to get her daughter a kidney

@kellyanneree3252

3 жыл бұрын

No to pay for a lawyer!

@brandonlink6568

3 жыл бұрын

Only in the greatest nation on earth

General RV voided the contract the moment they altered the contract.. So she should hire an attorney, return the RV to dealership & refuse to make anymore payments. An attorney would cost her about 3k or 4 RV payments to settled this in Court.

@nancysawyer9307

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like General RV is just planning on legal billing her to death. She pays for an attorney then they just keep requesting new court dates and delays on the new court dates to run up her fees. Contact the State’s University’s LAW DEPARTMENT and see if they are willing to take on her case as a Contract Law & Fraud Review Case just paying court fees. Some Big Universities do help people in a situation such as this. Worst case keep paying JUST the monthly payments and if they try coming after HER in 2025 THEY will need to PROVE that their contract wasn’t altered.

@Frankie2012channel

3 жыл бұрын

3K? Wow, the lawyers must be CHEAP where you live. It cost me 1 thousand just for ONE lawyer to look at a letter of demand that I wrote that was one page long and that took 15 minutes.

@Sothrnbluz

3 жыл бұрын

@@Frankie2012channel sorry u were ripped-off by your lawyer

@x92811

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sothrnbluz tale as old as time itself

@Patrick.Weightman

3 жыл бұрын

If she was smart, she wouldn't have taken a 20 year loan and realized all this 5 years ago. She would've lawyered up immediately instead of running to the media for a childish smear campaign. But hey, look where we are.

Lesson: Don't sign a 20 year contract for anything, w/o legal review. This will be resolved in the buyer's favor, but it is a mess

@rebekahann626

3 жыл бұрын

That and will the rv last 20 years? With out any type of major repairs?

@tracewallace23

3 жыл бұрын

@@rebekahann626 like ANY modern vehicle will last for 20 years (even just sitting all of the plastic will fall off and/or crumble).😔

@Hathorr1067

3 жыл бұрын

The contract was edited after the fact.

@nutmagnet22

3 жыл бұрын

You should have put a period after "anything",if it has a motor in it. In 5 years the rv will be worth maybe a third of the purchase price?

@OrangeSunshine2

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertruge2916 I remember that company. They were lying thieves.

General RV needs to make this right! The Bank needs to make this right and I am sure this is probably not the first! They both need to be investigated! Prayers this women gets justice!

@ez1913

3 жыл бұрын

Or... a slingshot and a pocket full of rocks, might make her feel a whole lot better. Who wants to buy a hail damaged RV? No One, that's who. LOL

"Can't afford a lawyer" as they show her big house, $100k RV and she drives off in a $40k jeep.. lol

@derrickddub

3 жыл бұрын

Probably maxed out debt wise, every paycheck going to her toys.

@lisaspringer8692

3 жыл бұрын

You don't know what her lifes circumstances are or how they have changed over the last year. Bottom feeding attorneys are not cheap especially in civil cases. She wasn't asking for sympathy she was warning people who maybe getting scammed.

@lifeuncommon1116

3 жыл бұрын

Regardless whether you think she deserves it or not... this is a contract issue. If they are falsifying the contract they need to be looked into. Fortunately these cases are not determined by your “pitch fork, burning torches and lynch mob” rule of law....

@danisyx5804

3 жыл бұрын

Right?! I'd be working f****** minimum wage in the court tells me I can afford a lawyer when I can't even afford f****** rent. Her motorhome cost twice what the house I just bought did.

@upminer6162

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

119 payments of $631 plus a balloon payment of $63,139 = $138,343. The top clearly states a Grand Total of $151,670 after finance charges. Sue the piss out of them and specifically ask for punitive damages. They knew what they were doing and deserve punitive damages.

@P.J.MartyCone

3 жыл бұрын

They probably put an initial down payment

@smokeyangelav

3 жыл бұрын

They didn’t expect her to still have the paperwork.

If they changed the numbers then this goes way beyond a civil matter. This is a major criminal matter. If they changed the numbers they engaged in and committed major finance fraud with a bank. That is a major felony under federal law that carries a 30 year prison term. She needs to file a criminal complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice.

@sublimesense7761

3 жыл бұрын

Is “major finance fraud“ the actual name of the crime found in statute or is this just speculation?

@johnlyn1

3 жыл бұрын

@@sublimesense7761 The actual statute is titled "Bank Fraud" 18 USC 1344 and 18 USC 1343 is title Fraud by Wire, Radio or television. Each carries up to 30 years in prison and up to a $1,000,000 fine for each offense. I'd say that meets the definition of major finance fraud. That is 60 years in prison and $2 million in fines for each customer they did this to.

General RV ripped me off too!!! All of us who have been ripped off should file a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST GENERAL RV Is there an Attorney in the house?

@dbcuuc

3 жыл бұрын

I'm with you. I had my horrible ordeal with them.

@dbcuuc

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know why my church popped up. I am sharon.herr.7 on Facebook

@Riker-eq2yv

3 жыл бұрын

@@dbcuuc I’m pretty sure Loren Baidas learned how to operate his business from Vito Corleone! One thing is for sure once the RV sales level out or the economy sinks General RV won’t survive by the way they operate. I advise everyone who feels they got ripped off to file a complaint with their States Attorney General’s Office,,with enough complaints they’ll take action.

@brianm6117

3 жыл бұрын

Avoid class action. The only people that win in class action is the attorneys. You could win 800 million for 10,000 people, but each person will only end up with about $500.

@Riker-eq2yv

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianm6117 😂 Then I would work through the States Attorney Generals Office. Either way something needs to be done

Drives a $50k Jeep, buys an RV thats financed over 20 years and has to donate plasma to make payments. Their finance skills aren't the best I see.

@beanqween9458

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, something doesn’t add up here.

@carriedooly3449

3 жыл бұрын

She's doing the plasma donation because she either has to pay a lawyer or pay $63,000 in four years. The story never said she can't make her payments. It said she can't make the $63,000 payment in 4 years.

@beanqween9458

3 жыл бұрын

@@carriedooly3449 Either way, that’s a lot of plasma!

@diaboloavocado

3 жыл бұрын

That doesn't justify what the dealer did. That's just victim blaming.

@leroyproud294

3 жыл бұрын

It was a horrible deal even at 240 months to pay!

I'd take a closer look at the financial institutions they were running loans through. Reminds of the real estate crash where people claimed banks pushed them into adjustable loans instead of fixed, since the banks could sell adjustable loans for more than fixed rate loans.

@isaacjimenez4258

3 жыл бұрын

And the insurance, UDOT, legal, etc...

@GT-mn3bx

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't ARMs which are still around, it was neg am loans. How else are people going to agford these houses? Since then, look how the homeless population has increased.

In this case, her RV is a literal blood sucker. She donates plasma to feed the dragon, as she chases her tail, trying to keep up with the payments. Before investing in the "fleeced" lifestyle, think about what it will take away from your life. Once a person captures the dragon, they often must pay a very dear price, sleepless nights and peace of mind, to keep it fed.

@ec9833

3 жыл бұрын

Except... the real problem here is, US citizens have no rights, are not protected under any law, conditioned to think they do & are... unless they have the money to PURCHASE a CHANCE at them. She’s also been paying for 6 out of 20 years...5 yrs of payments before she understood that she was a criminal victim by an entity with simply, more money to get away with it, stealing from her, twice over; taking the payments & later, attempting to either collect a balloon payment or repossessing the RV, to sell it, again. There’s a cherry on top of that which is, it would soon affect her credit score which...is a manipulative, debunked controlling entity, as well but also a ruler over many, in many ways. My point... their plan worked and which way. She’s not trying to chase something non-threatening, at the end of the day. She’s trying to save major upsets that could devastate her, financially. Whether or not we agree with this institution, most are conditioned to stay enslaved by it, at really, no fault of their own. So what is she supposed to do?

@ks6122

3 жыл бұрын

Very well put!!

@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS

3 жыл бұрын

And the damn thing won't be worth dirt after 20yrs

Anytime you go to the dealership it's not the salesman you have to worry about...its the finance guy! Beware!!!

Sounds like they need to go to jail, and they should pay off her entire loan and let her have the RV for free.

Appearance of wealth is very important for a significant number of people in Utah. And household debt is outrageous in Utah as well. Keeping up appearances.

@furryfeathers4108

3 жыл бұрын

In the LDS community, just say it, how much they pay in tithing is never discussed by a new cadillac and new lexus in the church parking lot says enough.

@randobad

3 жыл бұрын

Keeping up with the Joneses is some sort of mental issue.

@esmeraldagreen1992

3 жыл бұрын

Any excuse to criticize the LDS community will be used. It is none of your business what people so with their money. A lot of LDS members are well off so what is it to you?

@randobad

3 жыл бұрын

@@esmeraldagreen1992 Overly sensitive are we?

@Jeremy-eu9em

3 жыл бұрын

@@esmeraldagreen1992 First of all The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints no longer uses the acronym “LDS”. Second point; you are projecting. I have a home in the Salt Lake City metro area and I am very familiar the importance of keeping up appearances. And finally, the statistics of household debt for the State of Utah speaks for itself.

Her first mistake was taking out a 20 year loan. That’s insane on something that will never last 20 years.

@crabbyoldman1022

3 жыл бұрын

First of all, motor homes last way beyond 20 years. Secondly, the price was over $100,000. She could have had a ten yr loan but the payments would be huge or she would have a balloon payment at the end. That’s what the problem is.

@Bl0OdYShAdOw

3 жыл бұрын

Guy has never stepped for outside so it makes sense he would assume such an asinine statement.

@TexasScout

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bl0OdYShAdOw Never stepped out side? I was a Scoutmaster for 24 years. My wife and I just got done living full time in an RF for the last 2.5 years until our replacement house was finished. No, never stepped out side my ass.

@robertott8467

3 жыл бұрын

@@TexasScout what’s a RF.,????

@TexasScout

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertott8467 RV

Never finance a "bucket of bolts" for two decades, even if it's on your bucket list. Cheers!

@greenearthblueskies8556

3 жыл бұрын

🥳👍🏽

@marysaade4343

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not the point

@lucky1206

3 жыл бұрын

I would probably lose my mind having to make a payment for 20 years. I plan on getting an RV within the next 3 years and I plan to only get one under six figures

@cliftt

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucky1206 That's scary. U say "plan" on only getting one less than 6 figures.

@steelisthemeal

3 жыл бұрын

These things aren’t even made of steel mostly It’s fiberglass wood & plastic Shit cheep materials that just don’t hold up over time 20 years plus go a by then way way outta date rv sure it’s still an rv but by then it’s kinda old and worn & smelly inside

I dwelt with a similar issue and had to hire a layer to help me clear it up. That cost me thousands that I never got back. It's so difficult to fight for your rights or defend yourself unless you have the money and time. The justice system needs to be overhauled because it's not fair.

Moral of the story, don't over extend yourself financially. Seems like she's swimming in debt while surrounded with a lot of bling.

@themidsouthcyclist8880

3 жыл бұрын

Moral of the story is contract fraud: RV place submitted a contract that was altered after it was signed.

I would find it hard to believe that there isn't a lawyer out there who wouldn't take this on on a contingency basis. I really hope this lady gets help, and soon. She can't afford to hold out as long as they can!!!

@cheryljohnson4292

3 жыл бұрын

She could ask General to pay her lawyer cost

@michaelbaka4777

3 жыл бұрын

@Georgetown Vintage You DO know what "contingency" means, right??

@OffTheWagons

3 жыл бұрын

@Nathan Vs Everything 🤣🤣🤣 funniest comment read this morning

@csmith8503

3 жыл бұрын

There's no shortage of armchair legal experts, maybe one of them will take the case.

@ronaldpigeon4713

3 жыл бұрын

@Georgetown Vintage I understand your point but because lawyers cost so much it is not an affordable option for most people. If they believe in the case so much... Lawyers are one of the few professions that are paid before they work. Charge for every phone call they make and talking to you and emails...

We just bought an RV from General RV and picked it up a week and a half ago. We did our own financing and brought them a cashier's check when we pick it up. Boy I'm glad we did now. I sure feel bad she and her family are in this situation. Best of luck to them!

@daverhee5034

3 жыл бұрын

so your saying your basically better and smarter then anyone else 😉

@debrahart4654

3 жыл бұрын

@DaveRhee, I believe Tom Cooper is just thanking his lucky stars that he brought his own financing to his sale. Hopefully others will follow his example, to avoid the consequences she experienced!

Makes me want to go look at all of my paperwork we have. Just recently paid off a rv. So glad we did. Thanks for the story.

I went to a general rv once. The salesman was disrespectful, rude and condescending. Even my son asked why he was so mean. Highly not recommended.

@therusfosterson238

3 жыл бұрын

We have a similar experience and perception.

She can’t be alone being scammed like this, a class action lawsuit should be setup.

I really hope to see a follow up video showing she wins her case.

@flashthompson1085

3 жыл бұрын

More folks have come forward with the same complaint. Some body getting sued.

@joeyb60

3 жыл бұрын

An update was posted 2 weeks ago

@WertzOne

3 жыл бұрын

@@joeyb60 And you didn't provide the link.

@seratonin7004

3 жыл бұрын

@@joeyb60 link please?

@_Romans10.9_

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, this woman has died and her rv was repossessed for failure to pay.

there was a car lot in Draper off of 106 S. that was changing out the rims and tires on my car while I was about the sign the contract and when I looked out and saw that they had stolen my rims and tires and lit them up and didnt buy the car.

Why would she need an attorney, when obviously there’s one alternate document, that contradicts the remaining RV’s doc and all the purchaser’s doc. Especially request a jury trial

@All32American

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck navigating the court system without an attorney.

@rm5282

3 жыл бұрын

For expediency, should call the IRS and report the dealership for tax fraud. If they changed that document I am willing to bet they didn't pay the required amount of taxes. Ask Barry Bonds how the IRS can mess up a good thing when they were called in to look for something totally different than what they ended up finding.

@tarnishaallen6066

3 жыл бұрын

Huh? Jury trial? She needs to file a fraud lawsuit. It's not criminal, it's civil.

@nazarenecaffeine

3 жыл бұрын

Civil suits dont have the option of a jury trial. You're thinking of a criminal suit. I agree that she should sue, but she needs to find a good attorney that will know how to maximize the damages paid out to her.

@All32American

3 жыл бұрын

@@nazarenecaffeine, civil suits don’t have the option of jury trials? You obviously didn’t go to law school. Civil jury trials are held every day. Stop spreading your ignorance.

In cases like this, Google can be your friend. A very short search found several dozen similar complaints against General RV spread across all states where they have locations. I can not speak to the validity of those complaints, but it puts up enough warning flags to make me think twice about dealing with them without extensive investigation. Time for more coffee.

20 year loan for a vehicle? Wow! They knew they had you when you signed that contract.

@stephandoan

3 жыл бұрын

Yup!

@crabbyoldman1022

3 жыл бұрын

The price is over $100,000. A ten year contract would mean she has a huge payment every month or a balloon payment at the end. That’s what the problem is. She wanted a 20 yr term.

@DV-ol7vt

3 жыл бұрын

@@crabbyoldman1022 maybe it was more than she could afford and she needed something suitable for the amount of money she made. Don’t make something you can’t afford, affordable!

@jenngalindo6927

3 жыл бұрын

She can have a loan for that long because it's an rv. If U can live in it u can finance it for that long

@bigalls3661

3 жыл бұрын

@@crabbyoldman1022 well they have 60 yr morgage now and even selling like apt like condo so even a duplex with two owners and those rent rooms so it keeps going with more sub owners

I would like to personally and happily help Lisa with a lawyer no strings attached, stuff like this from these big companies bank on the fact that you can't afford to do anything. Let's get this woman a lawyer and do not worry about paying the bill!!!

@sometimessnarky1642

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! You get right on that.

I had a dealer try to charge a higher price than was advertised before, when I caught it, I demanded he change it or give me back my trade in. There are laws that protect buyers and one is a satisfaction type, if you return an item before a certain amount of time they must comply, I'm about 95% sure about it but it is similar to a lemon law.

If you are taking a 20 year loan on a toy...you can’t afford it. Just don’t do it

@racerx6

3 жыл бұрын

Good observation Bob! It is a toy that probably was "played" with a few times then put on the side of the house under a cover. now she has to pay for it...for twenty years!!!

2 words Federal Trade Commission. Call them and make a complaint. They save complaints against companies and when they get enough, the company is closed down.

@fatasswierdo

3 жыл бұрын

That's three words

@thunderbird97

3 жыл бұрын

Susan not when they are paid $$$$ off, so much corruption in these three letter organizations (FTC), in the US

@susanp6057

3 жыл бұрын

@@thunderbird97 I had 2 different incidents where I could not get resoultion where I was cheated and when I was told to let these businesses know that I was going to file a complaint with the FTC these compaines took action and corrected their wrongs. I also had a friend who went through the same thing and all was resolved after FTC could not help her but gave her the right agency to help her and the company went under investigation and backed off their underhanded position. FTC works because they collect these incidents and after a certain number they can and will have you closed down. Better business Bureau is a joke. if a company cheats 5000 pepole and answers all 5000 complaints, they still get to keep their A. Thats a farce but that is how it works. BBB is not what it was in the 1980's. I reported a company in the 80's and the owner of the company thought I had my friend to call him but it was really BBB. He cassed out BBB and told them he did not care , I was not getting my 500.00 back and they called me and said I need you to sign papers Im closing him down. I refused to sign paper because that was not the resolution I was going for, I just wanted my 500.00 back. They shut him down without my signature. They need to go back to really looking out for the consumer.

UPDATE (5/5/21): We are almost at 500k views, thank you for supporting local investigative journalism General RV is now under investigation for potential fraud as more customers come forward with the same smudge. Watch here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIymzNaknrXac9I.html

Thank you for telling your story. We have been shopping recently for an RV, cash deal, but we will now go elsewhere.

Looks like someone is living beyond their means.

@ConsciousnessisRough

3 жыл бұрын

Are you the crooked RV salesman in the news story?

@shanereynolds5971

3 жыл бұрын

@@ConsciousnessisRough financing that huge of an amount for that length of time is indicative of living well outside ones means. She couldn’t afford it, that’s the whole point.

@jimrobison114

3 жыл бұрын

@@shanereynolds5971 The point is that the dealership altered the paperwork without her knowledge. What she could or couldn't afford isn't a factor in whether the documents were changed which is her complaint.

@shanereynolds5971

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimrobison114 the point of the news story, yes...the alteration. The point of the OP's post is that she couldn't afford it.

@amberchristine8395

3 жыл бұрын

Obviously she could afford it because she didn't default on any of her previous payments!

How many people who bought their RV from there are running to their paperwork after seeing this? I bet they’ll have comments to make when they are forced to go to court.

I recently visited Davidoff of London after watching your brilliant videos with the Sahakians. Wonderful service.

I would love to see a follow-up to this. I wonder if others have come out of the woodwork.

Was going to tweet @GeneralRVCenter on Twitter... But their Twitter account was suspended for rules violations. Very strange.

@lisalarrr

3 жыл бұрын

General RV Center Draper, UT 84020. You can leave a review on Google

This is why I strike through ALL empty boxes and spaces on a contract. I'm sorry for her and I hope this works out for her in the end.

@sanangelo7926

3 жыл бұрын

I always do this. Had a car dealer try to tell me I couldn’t do that once so I told them I couldn’t sign the contract.

@johnmcginnis5201

3 жыл бұрын

Never leave ANYTHING blank in a legal document.

@johnmcginnis5201

3 жыл бұрын

@Billy Mack, Texas Detective Placing 'NA' in any blank component of a legal document does have effect and that is the advise of my attorney. In this situation there was no blank space it was modified from its original intent.

@2006glg

3 жыл бұрын

@Billy Mack, Texas Detective I have my doubts that you are a detective, but your handle does accomplish one thing: it betrays your problematic complexes, you aggressive, small, insecure man. You may not be a detective, but you are undoubtedly an ass@$le. Come at me. Idgaf. I've verbally stomped the pride and snark out of ppl far more clever than you. That's if I have time to today. It's Friday - I may have time to wreck your inflated ego today, maybe not....

@elisehibbard2489

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't an empty box though, that's what gets me. It was obviously typed over.

I was a lawyer for 42 years working in consumer and business insolvency. These types of problems are common in the RV vehicle sales industry. They hook the customer with a deal on the financing. Over the years, the legal amplifications re disclosure requirements on these contracts have made them so complex that exactly the opposite result occurs. The customer often doesn't read or reads but does not understand the terms and financial consequences. Although not as common, what probably happened here is that some salesman and "finance guy" got together to secure their month end commissions with a big sale like this one. They gave the customer one set of contracts with terms, but prepared a second or altered form of the contract to sell. These dealers never carry the contracts. They sell them to some underlying finance entity, bank, or whatever. Often, the initial payments are the same on the two contracts so the buyer and contract purchaser look at the same performance (payments) for months or years before the forgeries kick in and it hits the fan, like here. Now, you think these dealer guys would know that their conduct is illegal and fraudulent, that they will be hauled up for it in the end. These guys are commonly gypsies who move from job to job within months or a few years. They are likely to be long gone and several other jobs later before the fraud is discovered. The dealership itself may be gone, or owned by someone new. "I don't know what happened.", followed by bad record keeping and a lot of BS to the parties, the lenders and the state regulators will often make the problem slide back to the finance company and the buyer. It just a dirty business by its nature. Anyway, this one is clearly dealership fraud on the underwriter. I used to run into this scam regularly with car and RV dealerships.

Sue... Sue for attorney fees, court fees, any and every other damn fee. I'm so sorry you are having to deal with this. Good luck dear. So glad you caught this.

@OtravelgirlO

3 жыл бұрын

Psychological trauma fees are $63,000 alone, poor lady.

@burnsmybritches5857

3 жыл бұрын

Either shoot or sue someone who even looks at you funny here in the states. I love this country!!!

@glorioskiola

3 жыл бұрын

Punitive damages for fraud. But the RV place will just file for bankruptcy.

20 years! the quality of materials and the workmanship in new RVs guarantees before the last payment the RV will be a pile of parts and tires in her driveway. for $631 she could rent one two weekends a month. did they consider used?

@10RRASK

3 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised it hasn’t already fallen apart in these first 5 years.

@tl4633

3 жыл бұрын

@Billy Mack, Texas Detective That's still a bargain compared to buying one of these.

@toolmanthetim7042

3 жыл бұрын

​@Billy Mack, Texas Detective check RV Share prices. $140-170/day for 4 day. class c for $99-125/day cruise america is a lot more. RV Share cuts out the middle man. and i doubt they would use it that much 2/month

@cornellsinclair

3 жыл бұрын

Rent your fun, buy your future.

As an attorney who does quite a bit of case work Pro bono Publico , I can assure This women that she can google Law firms in her area who are part of our Brethren In process of Giving back to community . If not , I'll do it . ( also Legal aid can handle straightforward contract law )

Thank you for this story. I was looking to by RV!

From Utah. They found other victims who suffered this same scam from this same dealership & now they’re facing investigations on multiple fronts. What shocks me is her bank Jordan credit union didn’t notice the typo either. My bank made the dealership & I redo every piece of paper work because the dealership didn’t use my full name including both my middle names. At the time I was annoyed but after watching this when it first aired im super glad my bank was so over strict about the paperwork being 100%

I was just thinking of buying a RV from them. Not anymore!!! Had the trailer all picked out too.

@andre1987eph

3 жыл бұрын

You dodged a bullet. Just get a Toyota TRD 4 Runner and an aftermarket bed conversion. RV are way too expensive considering opportunities in the stock market

@SSsmith24

3 жыл бұрын

U sure did dodge that bullet,,was meant for u to see it too!

Selling plasma so she can afford her $150,000 motorhome? This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard why doesn’t she sell it?

@refinnej5302

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because the current value does not cover the remainder of the loan. Why should she take the hit, lose what she has in it, lose the RV, and end up in the negative because of the scam?

As someone who depends on plasma donors to stay alive I just want to tell you THANK YOU!!! My body doesn’t produce its own antibodies so I have to get immunoglobulin therapy infusions twice a week to keep me alive because a common cold could literally kill me. I will be doing the infusions the rest of my life and I just hope there continues to be people who are generous enough to donate as time goes on. My infusions are over 8,000.00 per month and it takes plasma from 80-100 donors just to mix up one dose!! It’s definitely no picnic doing them as I have to use 5 needle injection sites for the meds to infuse with a pump. I just really wanted to relay my gratitude to you and to tell you that it is truly life-saving for myself and so many others. Thank you again!! 🙏🏼

An attorney should come to her aid and help her for free to sue them. So heartbreaking to see any human being to have to go through something like this. How do they sleep at night...smh!

My husband bought a Tahoe for our family and we almost died in it. The front end folded twice on us. Turns out is wasn't supposed to be sold, cause it had front end damage and we were never told. Well one day a lawyer contacted us and said he would fight for us and we didn't have to pay him. We won our Tahoe and the dealer had to pay the attorney and us for damages.

@rustedratchetgarage6788

3 жыл бұрын

Buyer beware

@vickiefinney6073

3 жыл бұрын

@@rustedratchetgarage6788 we got lucky we didn't die in that Tahoe and we won it from a dishonest dealer

@andre1987eph

3 жыл бұрын

Buy Toyota next time.

@vickiefinney6073

3 жыл бұрын

@@andre1987eph my Tahoe is fine now. It's a limited addition and we get many complements on it

@sarahann530

3 жыл бұрын

@@vickiefinney6073 So you are still driving a Tahoe with major front end damage . I trust you will disclose this when you sell itb

Life is hard and even harder when you make really bad decisions like this woman. Twenty years to pay for a vehicle?? That's just stupid.

@greenearthblueskies8556

3 жыл бұрын

I see two potential problems...1. She’s not financially capable of paying 2. She doesn’t appear to be extremely young, so that may affect her retirement . ....but I’m assuming, she very well could be a rich, 25 year old young woman.

File a lawsuit for intentional infliction of emotional distress, as well as fraud😐

In about 7 years that RV is worth about 10k at best ! In 20 years it won’t even be drivable. SMH

The evidence just based on the numbers they show proves their intent to defraud. The finance charge showing $46,470.37 is exactly what it would be on a 20 year full amortization. A 119 payments with 1 balloon payment amortized over 20 years would only have a finance charge $33,348.10. That would be a total cost of purchase on credit of $143,304.10, not the $156,426.37 they show. All the numbers at the top showing the rate at 3.90%, finance charge of $46,470.37, total payments $151,670.40 and total cost of purchase $4,755.97 down, $156,426.37, this is based on a full 20 year amortization term with no balloon payment. The number of payments at 119 payments of $631,96 for 1 balloon payment of $63,139.96 does not even compute with any of the finance charges and costs showing above. These numbers alone shows they did in fact calculate everything based on 240 payments, not 119 payments plus 1 balloon payment. They committed major loan fraud and defrauded the consumer and they did it knowingly with intent to defraud. The numbers alone proves this beyond a reasonable doubt and the people at the dealership responsible for this needs to be prosecuted for loan fraud and wire fraud.

How did the finance manager, loan officer, bank finance manager, and underwriter all miss this?? When making a large purchase you will get a phone call in 1-4 days verifying the loan info and that you wasn't offered anything else not in the contract. This is a long list of people not doing their job.

I’m just not sure I understand the cost/benefit of a 100k rv (or boat) that stays parked in the driveway most of the year. I hope she gets it sorted out though. Does sound like a shady deal.

Agreed thanks for sharing. General RV is definitely off my list altogether

I live in California. Last month I was going to order a motorhome. I looked into 2 rv dealers , General RV from Draper Utah and National Indoor RV from Las Vegas, NV. They both required a $5,000.00 deposit. The problem was that General RV was a "non refundable " deposit, N.I.R.V. Center was fully refundable. I went with NIRV and I called the saleswoman at General and told her that I went with NIRV simply because of their refundable deposit. She then said she could do it with a refundable deposit. She said for me to cancel with NIRV and buy it with General RV. I said no because she was not transparent about the deal and that I would stick with NIRV, which I did. Because of that I don't trust General RV.

@sarahann530

3 жыл бұрын

Why not buy your RV in California ?

@agm6095

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarahann530 More money in California. Everything costs more here in California. Chevron gas is $4.20 per gallon for 87 octane.

@sarahann530

3 жыл бұрын

@@agm6095 Gas is higher because it is taxed higher so not relevant . Vehicles are not any higher

@agm6095

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarahann530 I suppose you have priced them like I did before placing an order.

I have a feeling there’s gonna be jail sentences and millions of dollars in loans forgiven when the justice department investigates this company they have gotten away with it for too long now they need to be run out of Utah!!

@randallstewart175

3 жыл бұрын

No, there won't be any jail time. This was a fraud by contract forgery committed by the dealer against its financing underwriter which purchased the sale contract the same day the deal was closed. If the buyer can afford to hire a lawyer and make it stick, she will get the terms of her copy of the contract, because that's why the law requires they get it. The lender has recourse against the dealership for fraud. Often the value of future business is so great that they end up settling on some reimbursement and a bandaid agreement to "not make that mistake" again. Otherwise, the dealership pays back the loss, or it goes broke and doesn't. Commonly in this deal, the customer pays the installments up to the fraudulent "balloon" date, then stops over the dispute, the loan goes into default under the terms of the customer's real contract, the RV it repoed and sold, and the customer is then on the hook for any unpaid balance. (There is always an unpaid balance.) The trick here is once the customer has defaulted by failing to make the real installment payments while recovering from shock over the situation, the lender can and will call the balance of the loan due, thereby quite legally removing the issue of when deferred payment is due from the legal dispute.

Not only should the state AG office investigate the retailer, EVERY supplier to the retailer including EVERY RV manufacturer should stop dealing with General RV at once.

If you cannot afford a Lawyer , Then you could never afford that motorhome .

I'm retired now but my company bought an existing dealership and I as Controller took over the task. I soon found out the the 2nd chance Finance Manager was doing this exact same thing. I stopped it immediately. Beware of this practice!

Scammers -- publicize General RV scam. Boycott! Lawyers are expensive, another racket.

RV sales make car dealerships look like saints from heaven.

Why is she even still obligated at this point. She should be award pain and suffering amongst other legal awards. This is clearly illegal.

Attorney general needs to prosecute sales person for fraud.

Just curious what made her look at the paperwork after 6 years to discover this error?

Been in the RV industry for over 30 years and see this all the time thats why ill never own an RV i will only repair them

@rustykey9303

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in the process of converting a Chevrolet box truck into an RV. Better quality and it will last longer than any brand new RV you can buy off the lot today.

@144blessings

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why I saved and paid cash for mine:)

So there’s no ending to this? Great reporting! What about lawsuit by State Attorney General? Ridiculous.

Who finances a RV for 20 years???????? I can’t understand what would convince a person do that.

@homehustlerz248

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Pure idiocy

@dodgeguyz

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of people do. You can take it out for 20 years but pay it off early.

@DonLafontaine62

3 жыл бұрын

They have 72 and 84 month terms for cars now, so many people get suckered into that, its sad.

@dewrus2153

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, people take out 30 year mortgages for a $200k house so why is it a stretch to take out a long loan for an RV that cost over $100k? It's not really what you're buying but the amount it costs to own that item.

@greenearthblueskies8556

3 жыл бұрын

@@dewrus2153 🤔 You got a point....but if that was here primary residence, I’d understand., but she’s selling plasma for money...this was not a good decision.

This is what mortgage companies did when the 2008 crash happened.

@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS

3 жыл бұрын

No it isn't

@Nozoki

3 жыл бұрын

@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS Not exactly but similar.. I remember watching tv with my mom and there was a commercial for a lender offering 500k loans for like a $300 monthly payment. I took out a calculator and told her it would take like 150 years to pay that off so there would have to be an enormous balloon payment due at the end of 30 years.

@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nozoki There's usually only balloon payments in real estate on commercial loans or shorter term private money funding sources. The crash had to do with Subprime loans for residential that had teaser introductory payments that would then go up after a year or two and the terms not being explained to the average Joe buyer's... but remember the bigger, lesser known cause of the full on country wide crash was the bundles of these bad loans being packaged and improperly labelled as A rating cash derivatives that were them being bought by insurance companies and brokerage firms and crap, like AIG.

I got an RV commercial right after this story 😂

Medved did something similar to me. I refuse to do electronic signature. Make them print it before you sign it.