Four Point Star Setting
This video is the first of sixteen lessons in the Star & Bright Cutting course. You will learn how to lift grains for setting stones and create a four point star. Check out the other lessons; jewellery-training-solutions....
This video is the first of sixteen lessons in the Star & Bright Cutting course. You will learn how to lift grains for setting stones and create a four point star. Check out the other lessons; jewellery-training-solutions....
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Thank you so much for this video. Super helpful and well-presented. Your time and effort is most appreciated!
Such a beautiful setting. Thanks for sharing your skills.
Watching this just cemented the direction I'm going!
@mrgomezs
3 жыл бұрын
dude same how’s it going
Brilliant helpful video! I've been looking for a tutorial on how to do this setting forever!
Thanks Peter! Excellent tutorial!
I adore your online lessons. Thank you so much for sharing.
Great videos, very informative. Only found you yesterday, watched 3 tutorials so far & looking forward to many more. Thank you
Outstanding camera work and good instruction! You make it look so easy! Thanks very much!!!
@antonmursid3505
Жыл бұрын
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Very informative, great camera angles. Thank you!
Fantastic tutorial. Flush settings have been a challenge for me. Going to try this four point setting. Need to practice before I sign up for some of these amazing lessons.
@abelgold4832
3 жыл бұрын
same HAHAHAHA
Very well explained, they are a very good teacher.
Crystal clear explanation and video footage. Thank you very much. 👍
I just bought a heap of these blanks from Jewelry solutions to practice on ! All of the styles and sizes love them and the info ! Thank you !
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
11 ай бұрын
Thank you
Wonderful tutorial. Thanks!
Really great video, thank you for uploading!
Lovely tutorial, thanks for sharing! :)
Perfect lesson. ❤❤
That was Awesome! Now have to purchase all the tools...Nice Videos, very soothing... 🩷
Loved it. Thank you. Excellent tutorial, 🎉
Nice work. Great control. 🥰
New Subscriber. I was looking for this and WOW it is perfect. Exactly the information I needed. Thank you
Thanks for this tutorial
Great tutorial!!!
Thank you! I needed a way to put stones onto sheet .😄
Outstanding John setting
excellent video, I would love to see how you sharpen the burnishers
Just found your channel and subscribed and especially “ liked” thank you
Great video.
magnífico trabalho, parabéns
Total Awesomeness
Very informative. Thanks.
Art, thanks man
I had a 4 point center mounting with a 0.20 Ct 3mm moissanite ( brighter than a mined diamond but very small ) it turned a plain 14K signet ring into a really 1st class bright, but not to big or loud gents ringm looked great and then polished and wondered how the goldsmith did that? Really improved the looks and value nice video!
I’m so excited, I just purchased the Gypsy setting course!! On my 2020 goals to achieve
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
4 жыл бұрын
MetalROKJewellery welcome, I’m sure you’ll get a lot from the course and reach your goal. Let me know how you go. Cheers
@metalrokjewellery
4 жыл бұрын
Jewellery Training Solutions can I just ask you in the beginning of the video you refer to the tool list ? Where is that ?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
4 жыл бұрын
@@metalrokjewellery You will find that in the last chapter called Gypsy setting tool tips
@metalrokjewellery
4 жыл бұрын
Jewellery Training Solutions excellent thank you
Fantastic, thank you!!
Really nice tuturial
thank you!great tutorial!
Excellent sir...
Trabalho excelente!
Very nice. Thank you Sir.
Great, thank you
Thank you so much it was a great video
Thank-you.
Very NICE, THANK YOU !!!
Thank you.
Loved this video and your teaching style, very clear, easy to understand and soothing to listen to. Would you mind sharing where to find a setting blank like you were using? I’ve been making rings to practice setting on, would be much faster to have some premade ones to practice with!
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
4 жыл бұрын
Rach M thank you Rach. I sell setting blanks and student stone setting packs on my website. Check out this link. Cheers. www.jewellerytrainingsolutions.com.au/collections/setting-blanks
THANK YOU
Bom dia amigo me informa o nome dessa ferramenta que vc faz os cortes de encaixe na pedrinha por favor? Ferramenta que vc faz as travas não sei o nome mas deve ser isso. Fico no aguardo ok?
Love this tutorial Can you send link for tools
Wonderful
Amazing
Thanks!
Thanks
Nice!
You are very wonderful
Amazing video!! Can you do this technique on a half round band?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
4 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, as long as there's room
Does brass stone pusher is ok for all stones? Or just diamonds?
Verry nice
❤WoW nice! Thank yu !
Informative and detailed video! Question: for a very narrow ring with a small gem, is it possible to do only two points horizontally across the circumference of the ring? 4 points seems challenging for only a 4mm width ring. Thanks!
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
2 жыл бұрын
Yes that is possible as long as the stone is seated in the setting nice and tight
@bryanhoffer1572
2 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 Thank you. I think i may try it out on a silver ring I have with a 1-1.5mm gem.
hi pls where can i get the green tamplate any info would be great thx
Dope. I’m working with base metal in school at the moment for star setting. Was “back cutting” and it created a stepped star look which I’m not fond of. Can I anneal the metal to make the graver work easier?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
Жыл бұрын
Yes that would help. Also check that the brass is standard brass and not machining brass which is hard as hell!
Bundle of thanks sir
Sabe es un bello arte. Es muy hermoso como puedo tomar lecciones soy de Ecuador u no se inglés. Un poquito se pero viendo lo entiendo y lo se
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde Australia. Gracias. Si usted visita mi sitio web (enlace que puede encontrar en KZread) hay un montón de lecciones gratuitas. Usted verá que si usted habla inglés o no usted será capaz de seguir las lecciones. Salud
Thank a lot! Love u :x
What happened to Lui Elizondo Documetary Series on this ? I watched it , it was brilliant . But disappeared from the internet last year
Hi. This might be a really silly question but how is that a square graver? It looks more triangular to me
A 45 degree hart no less. I prefer those for almost all melee above even setting burs. Hardly even use setting burs anymore.
Thank you for the great video! Are the videos in your courses as well done as this....camera angles, close ups etc? If so, then I am seriously considering your courses. Could you please clarify something for me--when using a setting burr, it cuts a straight "wall," correct? Then, you come in with a hart burr and how does that make the seat flatter or better? Does the hart burr flatten the seat? TY!!
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Linda. You can pressure fit the stone either using a setting bur or a round bur, but they must be the perfect size. The hart bur is more versatile, it cuts a groove for the stone girdle to click into. So in some cases I will combine all three burs. It really is a matter of 'what works best for you' I make a point of demonstrating lots of options
@zarinai2777
2 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 does this technique only work on brass or will it work with many different metals? sorry if it sounds like a dumb question
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
2 жыл бұрын
@@zarinai2777 this will work best on all non Ferrous and precious metal alloys
@zarinai2777
2 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 thank you so much!
Hi Peter I enjoyed the lesson. I just wonder, by wiggling the graver, don't you leave ugly traces on the bright cut? Wouldn't it be nicer to push the graver straight forward until lifting it up? Otherwise, thanks for all your informative lessons and work you put into this. Greetings from Austria, Joe
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 жыл бұрын
Josef Eidler yes Joe avoiding the wiggle and pushing with strength or air assist graver would be tidier for sure, but it can be tough, so I would normally tidy up the facets with a flat graver. I show this during the bright cutting course. Thanks for watching
@thiyagarajanthiyagu1674
5 жыл бұрын
Josef Eidler கல் வைக்கும் முறை அருமை
Hello. I can only echo the sentiment of others. May I ask, what is the name of the fixture. Can you show the seating arrangement relative to setup on table and the fixture. Sorry about my uneducated questions. Rgds , Buster
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
4 жыл бұрын
Its called a GRS Benchmate
Could you just skip the drilling and start with the round burr. Of course start with a center punch mark. But basically if you don’t want to drill through material
Hi. I was looking at your course tools & it says a 2.4mm hart bur. Can you tell me where I'd find this size as I've looked everywhere & can only find a 2.5mm or a Busch Carbide Bearing Cutter 90° Burr 2.4mm (will this work for a 2.5mm & 3mm stone?). Thank you so much. Really great video.
@swwsociety1877
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I need to be more specific. Can you suggest an affordable UK retailer. I find loads in the USA but the postage is through the roof. Thank you.
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
4 жыл бұрын
I never go off the packet measurement, all my stones would be loose otherwise, they are always out. A 2.5mm hart bur (packet measurement) is actually 2.4mm when you take it out and measure it
@swwsociety1877
4 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 Thank you so much for all your in depth answers to my questions. I really appreciate you taking the time.
@zumbanata
4 жыл бұрын
@@swwsociety1877 , you've got one of the best selling companies in UK - go to cooksongold. They've also got a physical shop in London.
How thick should the legal be to flush set a stone
Thank you for such a detailed video, what size graver is this? What size would one use for a 2.5mm stone?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
3 жыл бұрын
Its a 2.5mm Square graver
@1827handmade
3 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 Thank you! The square graver at my jewelry store looks nothing like the shape of yours, I am so confused.
@1827handmade
3 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 What shape or kind of graver handle are you using here?
@louistherusher
2 жыл бұрын
@@1827handmade did you have any luck finding this out?
Hey man, where can I purchase me some blanks online? I would love to try this. Please let me know, thanks. Great video by the way.
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
2 жыл бұрын
Yes certainly. Go to the website shop. This page has the settings; jewellery-training-solutions.myshopify.com/collections/blanks-stones
Thnx a lot sir for increase my knowledge about setting..sir plz tell me what is d name of strument which has fix d ring.and round and up down every side.(sir my english is too week,but i hope u understand what itell u). ...love from panna m.p. india
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
4 жыл бұрын
bodhisatwa soni I think you are referring to the ring clamp, it’s a GRS bench mate
how many mm thick is this square graver please? I'm looking at ordering one.
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
Жыл бұрын
2.5mm but you can use a smaller one too
请问绿色的珠宝尺是什么名字
Are those .05 pointers stones?
Ive been trying to find out what sort of alloy these blanks are made of. Is this a brass alloy? Is this a material that can actually be worn? Do they sell sheets of it?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 ай бұрын
Its known as antique brass, or cartridge brass
So I don’t need a special tool to be able to use gravers. I can just buy the graver and use the handles I have (already purchased a few for use with something else and have extra
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
Жыл бұрын
I have lessons on how to prepare gravers on the website
where can i buy the setting blanks
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
Жыл бұрын
jewellery-training-solutions.myshopify.com/
Peter, which handpiece are you using with your micro motor? Please, and thank you.
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
4 жыл бұрын
Im using a strong 207s micromotor, they have a quick release hand piece.
@flyingcheff
Жыл бұрын
@Jewellery Training Solutions thank you so much.
I have bought 20 stones of each size from 1 to 6mm
Harika
Nice.sir
Peter, when you say "gypsy setting," do you mean flush setting? I have recently learned the difference between the two. In fact, often, flush setting has been called "false gypsy setting." What are your thoughts on this? Thank you, as always. I think I'm a stonesetting geek, I am always on the edge of my seat watching your videos, trying to LEARN! 🌺🌺🌺
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
Жыл бұрын
Yes gypsy setting is the term used in UK and Australia but it’s the same.
Where did you get the hand tool? The gray.
@TUANPHAM-ry3nw
5 жыл бұрын
Search " Dremel" sir
@javieruriel
5 жыл бұрын
No that doesn’t look like dremel
@amrantar8659
5 жыл бұрын
it's a micro motor, there are different brands, if you are in the USA check Riogrande, OttoFrei, Contenti, they are the three suppliers i buy from.
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 жыл бұрын
More info please
@yosoyysoyyo
5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the grave? If you mean the thing he pushed the star with, the 45° thing, he made that himself
Can you list the tools?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
2 жыл бұрын
Go to the link in the discription and you will find a tool list
супер!!!
Are you using a Seashin or a Foredom micromotor?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
3 жыл бұрын
Sheashin, they are great. Foredom are good too but quite expensive
@andijvie3119
3 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 I guess you are using carbide burrs and drill bits right because the torque specs of Saeshin 207 leave much to be desired, I want to buy an affordable micromotor, not a super expensive NSK ofcourse but something in between. Can you give me a recommendation, I want good torque and able to drill with normal drill bits in yellow gold. The saeshin are the same company who makes motors for Foredom if i’m right.
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
3 жыл бұрын
For an affordable one look at a marathon N8
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What's the name of that tool? it is an engraving tool?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 жыл бұрын
Gabriela Ortiz not sure which one you mean, it’s either the graver pusher or beader
@gabrielaortiz9969
5 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 yeah a graver pusher, the one that you use to make the star setting. Thank you
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 жыл бұрын
The main tool is a square graver
@metalrokjewellery
4 жыл бұрын
Jewellery Training Solutions hello Peter what size is the square graver that you use ? Great tut by the way! Bloody ripper!
Do you really need to cut a hole out the bottom??? I really dont want to for appearance
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 жыл бұрын
In the online setting courses I talk about the pros and cons of drilling through or not.
@ssr4656
4 жыл бұрын
@@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978 I have heard it was necessary for light to go through stone
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Why did you not cut the stars first before putting the stone in your the first person I have seen do this way what is wrong especially when doing a eight pointed star cut the star first then put stones in and secure it , there’s no way to get a good clean job cutting with the stone in .
@t0rb1naalborg44
5 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The grain lifting must be done with the stone in the seat, never seen it done with a hand graver any other way. Another technique is to remove material around the seat, leaving metal for the grains as short stubs/islands. The stones are then pressed into the seats and the stubs formed into grains pressed down onto the stones. This is done with burs and/or graver machines, air or electrical assisted. Used in pave or micro pave where the stones almost touches each-other.
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right John. But this is the first lesson for beginners. I have been teaching for many years and I have found that it works best to take students through the process step by step. The full course has 20 videos showing all the stages. This link will show you what I mean. jewellery-training-solutions.thinkific.com/courses/bright-cutting-student-pack
@johndaniels3889
5 жыл бұрын
T0rb1 NAalborg I am not mean lift the grain when the stone is not in the hole , all the cutting is done before the stone goes in the hole that way you can move the grain in pre cut form it will move onto the stone a hell of lot easier, take a look at JURA diamond setting on KZread he is one of the best setters in the world, teaching a student to raise and cut from that far back is going to end in tears and possible harm to themselves when the scorper snaps .
@johndaniels3889
5 жыл бұрын
Jewellery Training Solutions I have always thought students to raise there first grains with a half round as it will not chip as easily, raising grains that far back is quite advanced, and can I ask do you cut your eight pointed star with the stone in the hole ?
@jewellerytrainingsolutions9978
5 жыл бұрын
John Daniels no, I teach to cut the decorative star first. That is the next lesson in the curriculum. You should maybe take a look, you don.t have to pay to see the course program
Me suelen gustar los vídeos que hace, pero esa no es la forma correcta de hacer ese tipo de engaste.