Quote from Forza's latest update "In update 6 we made two specific changes to the FRR model. The first change was to add more examples of sideswipe collisions to the model’s training data. The second was to reduce false negatives and ensure we assign penalties to players who should have received them but weren’t. This second change had the unintended consequence of also increasing false positives by a much larger margin than anticipated, meaning, it assigned penalties to players who should not have received them. In Update 7 we have adjusted the weighting so that we expect to see false positives reduce and added more examples of sideswipes to our training data to continue to adjust the model." This video was Update 6, hence the hilarious penalties. Let's see how update 7's penalties turn out!

@wkndplaya

2 ай бұрын

memed from the ground up :)

@wooJadisen

2 ай бұрын

the pain ensues

@SamTheMan666

2 ай бұрын

A perfect word soup to describe doing jack shit.

@pedinhuh16

2 ай бұрын

If this video is from update 6 and not 7, then your title is a tad bit misleading.

@thatfunnykekguy6377

2 ай бұрын

*The second was to reduce false negatives and ensure we assign penalties to players who should have received them but weren’t* They need to fire the entire dev team ...

"Total time penalty is about a day and a half"

@WickedParanoid

2 ай бұрын

ISAD: breathes in the general direction of his opponents T10: "Total time penalty is lifetime sentence"

4 seconds for surviving attempted vehicular slaughter

@oppos727

2 ай бұрын

Race Stewards: "STOP RESISTING. STOP RESISTING."

@oppos727

2 ай бұрын

Race Stewards: "STOP RESISTING. STOP RESISTING."

@Element0145

2 ай бұрын

He gets another 4.25 second penalty for having to turn before getting ran off the track because the guy on the inside just kept going straight , I’m never going back to forza with dumb ai penalty’s scoring like this

@oye6124

2 ай бұрын

i would have left

@slezyorla

2 ай бұрын

​@@oye6124 since the game is out i have put like 2 hours into it because of this bs. They should just make every offtrack area slow you down like in Forza 4.

ISAD: "WTF? I'm the victim yet I'm the one getting the penalty?". Penalty System: "Be grateful that I didn't kick you out of any race at all".

@victormasson625

2 ай бұрын

More like: "At least I'm allowing you to play the game, fam"

Missed an opportunity to put Burnout 3 takedown sound effect

@Giratina575

2 ай бұрын

Takedown Rampage!

@Crinale13

2 ай бұрын

@@Giratina575 Psyche-Out 900 points

@xxvipershot82xx73

2 ай бұрын

Boost bar goes up

@darkdizzy_

2 ай бұрын

*_AND I CAN FEEL YOU BREATHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING--_* 🎶🎶🎵🎵

@Giratina575

2 ай бұрын

@@darkdizzy_ and its keeeeepiiiiiiing me awake!

Recreated the Bad Boys 2 Highway scene and in a Ferrari too. 🤣🤣 "THEY THROWING CARS"

@pspcow

2 ай бұрын

Shake ya tailfeather!!

Oh, so this is still penalty stuff from Update 6. Here’s to hoping Update 7 finally gives us a proper penalty system.

@nanorcs

2 ай бұрын

Don't hold your breath.

@drkilledbydeath87

2 ай бұрын

It won't.

@elongated_musket6353

2 ай бұрын

You are very optimistic

@toxicmasculinity7870

2 ай бұрын

Try not to get your hopes up too high, this is Turn 10 we’re talking about.

@guestc142

2 ай бұрын

Unlikely.

4 seconds for avoiding to become an absolute smore

@krazycharlie

2 ай бұрын

"Avoidable Contact". Yeah, right.

I think at this point t10 main purpose of updates is to prove that everything could be worse - so don't complain.

@zerozero_73

2 ай бұрын

everything can and will get worse

@williamagan3506

2 ай бұрын

this is from update 6 not the new one

@DuraExtvia

2 ай бұрын

Nah, keep complaining. T10 needs to learn to just do better.

@MbViper

2 ай бұрын

Nah it's just t10 doin' Microsoft things , nothing really new

18:25 nice penalty system

@_balep4ik_333

2 ай бұрын

4:20 same shi... totally legit avoidable contact penalty

penalties are only avoidable by not playing the game lol

@kireta21

2 ай бұрын

I actualy went back to FM7

@MaxwelloftheClocktower

Ай бұрын

untrue, I collided with my door yesterday and heard "total time penalty is about 3 seconds" from the eather

@defective6811

Ай бұрын

@@MaxwelloftheClocktower _you're the one, neo_

@MaxwelloftheClocktower

Ай бұрын

@@defective6811 *confused screaming*

I know that reckless driving style from somewhere..., yes, it must be! That CrazyJman93 can't be no other than the myth, the legend... CRAZY JIMMY himself!!!

@2Shiba

2 ай бұрын

But where is his yellow Fiero tho

@HarrisonHUMAN

2 ай бұрын

Better than slipstreamin’ jimmy

@randomstormtrooper3345

2 ай бұрын

@@2Shiba He's probably undercover, given what happened in the last KOTM

Shitty penalties, shitty drivers, this game really does have the whole package wow

@rodrigo2silvanoob

2 ай бұрын

Gt7 is equal or worse.

@marcosk.r999

2 ай бұрын

​@@rodrigo2silvanoobNo, forza is more shitty right now.

@_balep4ik_333

2 ай бұрын

@@rodrigo2silvanoob even if it is worse as you say, it's doesn't mean that this game isn't bullshit

@t.o.a.s.t.e.r

2 ай бұрын

​@@marcosk.r999 gt7 is literally on par with forza on how ppl play

@heberjulio6303

2 ай бұрын

@@rodrigo2silvanoobforza is way worse

1:13 The word "avoidable contact" infuriates me

@revheadcorrado5701

2 ай бұрын

"Avoidable Contact" Ah yes, I should've used my mind-reading ability to see that driver was going to tomahawk cruise missile my ass. Should've dodged it without knowing about it ultra instinct style, that's on me, my bad.

@hakshustletv

2 ай бұрын

It's a phrase.

Are you joking! 4.50 seconds for a collision you didn’t cause?! WTF

1:05 off to a great start!

Mad for that penalty, but extremely happy for that first collision outcome

Gran Turismo 7 is not any better in this regard. Say you're coming into a braking zone 3 cars deep, and you're the car in the middle. If the guy behind you misses his braking point and punts you, you're going straight into the guy ahead of you and punting him off. And YOU get the penalty for it...

@ZX3000GT1

2 ай бұрын

It's better in the sense that at least the first example in this video wouldn't have been a penalty in GT7. But yeah there are also a lot of problems with GT7's penalty calculation (I wonder if wall hits in GT7 still gives you a penalty no matter how you hit it)

@0ompaLoompa

2 ай бұрын

At least the ranking system in GT7 works. So you don't have to race against rammers when you rank up.

I don't get why they don't properly test stuff before releasing it...

@Venji818

2 ай бұрын

They do test. but they probably have around 1,000 beta testers compared to the million people who play. It gets real difficult to account for every type of bump or ram

@matrinezkevin11492

2 ай бұрын

​@Venji818 the guy who tried to kill ISAD blatantly killed 2 other people within the first 45 seconds of the race and only had a 1.1 second penalty. This is just being super lazy and assuming that the faster car is always the aggressor and instigator of contact and the slower car is always on the defensive.

@Venji818

2 ай бұрын

@@matrinezkevin11492 yeah, it is busted, and ISAD getting 4 full seconds for being slightly off track is stupid. It is, however, extremely difficult to code a fair penalty system due to motorsports case by case manual review system in real life. But yes they are lazy

@Pericalypsis

2 ай бұрын

Because buy it anyway.

@TheVektast

2 ай бұрын

You already gave them the money so who cares about the product? Late capitalism.

I would say that this is double bad, because it causes their safety rating to go up, and yours down, but we all know that Turn 10 ignores safety rating anyway.😆

Turd 10 updates are just a meme at this point.

Imagine that.. Turn 10 made it worse, again... Do they not play test this shit at ALL?

@berniejo5307

2 ай бұрын

Probably not lol, I'm glad I didn't waste my money on this, imma wait until the next game if there is one lol

@heberjulio6303

2 ай бұрын

Buy forza horizon, better than this piece of sh%@

These days I actually hold my breath each time it starts calculating my penalty based on it assuming there was a collision or a track cut.

That's me too. I'm hugging the corners, drafting, etc. and then some lunatic comes in and rams me. Somehow the system thinks that an "Avoidable Collision" penalty of 2.5-4.5 sec was needed after getting punted.

They need to add gran turismo (serve penalty) sections so it slows you down to serve your penalty instead of waiting till last second

Yeah, hopefully these are fixed with update 7. Sheesh, those were rough. Would love to see you run the GT hopper sometime 🙂

That 2nd race in that yellow car, yourrear suspension is what caused you to hit the wall there, too stiff while also having too much rebound. Needs to have less dampening/compression and a little slower Rebound but also have the Rebound be a little higher than your compression rate, need it to settle faster than it compresses but not too much otherwise it still acts stiff and will still cause you to lose your rear end on bumps and turns.

"oh you manage to survive that ram? dammit, here's 5 sec"

5:24 That was craaaaazy. You could see him mentally prepare for understeer thats how quick he dove in there. It was a beautiful full-send full-limit dive.

9:40 that was unfortunate, you hit the wall & spun, but you still finished the race! you really live up to your name.

It is outrageously worst than before. The most annoying thing for me is how proud the devs look in the patch notes about this crap.

@1:05 oh my god! my man turned Forza Motorsport into Rumble Racing! 😂

4:21 okay, im done 🤣

1:13 my reaction: *Laughs in J. Jonah Jameson* Are you serious?

I've stopped playing it until they get it sorted :(

Refs be like: Technical Foul. Unsportsmanlike Conduct. Flipping Cars. 4.5 seconds

16:30 that guy os probably a bmw driver in real life lmao

It baffles me how much grip you get out of your tunes without using race tires. Mind sharing your secret?

@IsuckAtDriving

2 ай бұрын

Stiff ARBs, thickest tire width and making the car as light as possible.

1:05 bro think he playing wangan 💀💀💀

Lol...btw try disabling ABS...will help stability when braking and trailbraking. Also, are you playing on a keyboard? I see your acceleration either 0 or max lol

That corvette got what he asked for, and I love it ❤

“You can’t feel pain from a racing game video!” The video:

Honestly I think it would be next to impossible to tune in the penalty system to work perfectly first time. It’s something that will need a lot of tweaks over time to hit the sweet spot. To the devs credit they are at least trying to tune it in properly. Hopefully they will get the system working to at least a playable degree soon

@2Shiba

2 ай бұрын

Except... the game has been out for quite a while now

i remember splitting 2 cars not touching either and getting a penalty

9:39 woah, its your channel name! 😅😅😅

ISAD opening race with his first penalty it just hilarious 😂😂😂

The stutters are still crazy

I had the exact same red Ferrari with the exact same white stripes, as a toy car in my childhood. LMAOOOOOOOOO

@youssafsu2307

2 ай бұрын

SAME - and it had this feature where you push down on the bonnet and the lights would turn on snd it would make revving noises. I lost it at school unfortunately 😢. Was like 13 years ago

So pretty much what this update tells me is anyone that starts at the back of the pack even without being a Clown that pushes people out the way but instead gets pushed around and therefore gets a penalty will never ever catch the guy in front.

1:05 Plug thought this was horizon💀😭😂

I just want them to revert it back to how it was before the updates my ratings have tanked and i have no motivation to play anymore

I'm having this issue at the moment, if I accidently bump them I receive almost no penalty but my issue is most of them ram the hell out of me with intension to take me off the track and I receive high penalties. I assume the Dev working on the penalties hasn't ever driven a car or raced before (Possibly just a diversity Dev)

This is why I dont give a sht about realistic driving games.They are boring anyway.We have tons of realistic driving games these days.What we need is a good arcade racing games that is fun to play.

Most penalties you recieved in this video were honestly due to other players playin' rough and reckless but overall it was a good video. Nice work. Stay safe out there. Peace✌🏾

2nd race is like the average RFactor2 lobby

First clip is my cat when i come from work

They see me rollin, rollin

4 secs + 2 secs in last race for survive a literally helldive O-M-G

17:04 Nothing is more Forza than that guy getting bullied by about 4 different cars at once, getting a 4.5 second penalty for it and saying “Thanks!”

I wish this game was any good, always wanted to play an up to date Motorsport game on PC

I know this race was recorded in update 6, but in a way the title actually portrays well the trouble Playground Games went into putting a new system that ends up being even more work for them as it's not really up to make it given how some players are, apart in some cases. Also, to CrazyJman93 and A2pinDinPlug that raced in that video : "may your L's be infinite, and your bitches few "

in the new group c hopper i got rammed into the air and got a 4.5 penalty for it closed out of the game and left my house

good that we have a safety rating system in this game... oh wait its also "build from the ground up" :D

Bro had a strip weathers moment

the esprit clip would've had me HEATED

im suprised the game is even getting updated still

Drive on grass next to a straight for .5 seconds Penalty system: "Yeah that's one second penalty"

3:19 and you can see that the instigator, crazyjman93, has a total penatly of +4.35, meaning he got a lower penalty for that collision 😂

ISAD: Survives getting rekt and keeps moving. Track Marshalls: dIsQuAlIfIeD for RecKlEsS dIvInG!

I'll say it again: this whole FRR shenanigans could have been avoided if they adopted a pre-existing model, say, iRacing's penalty model. I know I'm generalizing the problem here, but I think it would have avoided a lot of the penalty issues we see here.

OMG! THIS IS CRAZY

If you are in a tangle are you supposed to wait for the tow truck?

4.5 seconds for that, what a yoke

4 seconds for avoiding to becoming a fucking smore

15:58 That zizomak guy 100% did that on purpose wow

@IsuckAtDriving

2 ай бұрын

No, he was being dived by the Ford GT40 who had a total penalty of 7 secs by the end of the race.

Hi i have a quastion, you use wheel or controller ?

@IsuckAtDriving

2 ай бұрын

Keyboard.

@aliakbar-dq5nd

2 ай бұрын

You play very well with the keyboard👍

Honestly, I think people driving with bumper cam have little to no situational awareness on track. I would like to see the penalty system updated to more accurate gentleman-racer rules, such as the nose of the car must be even with the driver for the overtaking driver to have right of way, etc.

These " avoidable contact" penalties make me wanna scream. How can the game tag the hit car with the penalty

Ngl with all the flaws it has (excluding all the bugs on PC because I'm a Console dude anyway) I'd still like to try it one day. I had the chance to play Forza Motorsport 4 once and even though it has much worse physics than Gran Turismo 5 It was so fun. Gran Turismo 7 Is unbeatable but I bet this game is pretty fun too.

I just wanna know how dude spun out before the turn 😂😂

User manners have become better than before.

watching all the collisions in the top right you'd think this is nascar or something

BUILD FROM THE GROUND UP! 👌

@DarkPatro56

2 ай бұрын

And kept being burned down to the ground...

I just started to play the game, but I'm already questioning why am I still there...

I am interested to know how much your safety rating fell since update 6 and that penalty system

@IsuckAtDriving

2 ай бұрын

Went to B but quickly become S. I can get back my ratings easily.

It seems the game is still considering you are crashing the other car at a very high speed, for the game you "t-boned" the other guy, honestly i don't see how they will solve this.

1:06 TAKEDOWN 7 seconds penalty for avoid crash 😅

Does nobody ever realise that they’re racing against such a legend, who would be isuckatdriving/grandma driving?

"When you suck at driving"..... But still finish 3rd after starting 18th 😂

OmG, isad just realised ur from Malaysia region issit? Hahaha, I just went up on one of ur old videos and realised. If soo matriye lol, which region u from? KL? Jb? Kedah here.

@hazikhdanialabdulhalim5435

2 ай бұрын

With that, I've been loving ur content and watching while i eat and binge ❤

@IsuckAtDriving

2 ай бұрын

KL

How do you record full races mate.. Capture card?

@IsuckAtDriving

2 ай бұрын

Nvidia Shadowplay

F430 ❤❤ my favorite Ferrari model ever

What track is this? I’m a gt7 player

Grandma iz angry

7:39 Show these kids how to drive! WHAT A DIVE BOMB!!!!

Gotta love being a beta tester for these big AAA games on release these days. I swear I can't think of a major company that hasn't released a sh*tty bug ruined game in the past 5 or so years.

Why am I not surprised though

WOW

The physics of this game are atrocious

Dont feel bad i jus took a 4 sec penalty in a race where the guy came outa nowhere slammed me i hit the guy in front of me.we both got taken out and i took the penalty