Everyone: This car sucks, you can’t give it more horsepower! This car: 949 HP.

@dalehadley3283

3 ай бұрын

Don't get me wrong,949 horsepower is a lot,but at least a couple of engine upgrades would have been nice,like maybe upgrading the block,or air filter,instead of just anti lag,which doesn't do anything

@Swogfish

3 ай бұрын

the fact that 950HP is on the smaller end of what these engines make IRL is mind boggling. my favorite drag racing boi Red Demon currently makes over 2000hp AWD. now the only problem with that is the rest of the drivetrain.

@gamingmamba2584

3 ай бұрын

Underpowered compared to other cars we have in this game

@kissgergo5202

3 ай бұрын

In real life 950hp is very impressive and very fast. In a game where you need to be pushing 1300hp+ to be competitive, 950 is just straight up not enough.

@chipmanky

3 ай бұрын

Try playing the game. You go up against 1,200-1,400 horsepower cars in S2.

I hate how people who play games like fh5 where every car can have like 1800hp who because of that think like 500hp is "nothing" or "not enough"

@_hitomaru

3 ай бұрын

for me, B-A class is the sweet spot. horsepower is overrated as fuck

@NO-ge6ci

3 ай бұрын

I've noticed that torque is usually more important in B/A class, making the cars more responsive and sometimes easier to handle

@mattmunoz9388

3 ай бұрын

Dude right and they will swap the same motor into each car and make them all perform exactly the same which is fucking boring.

@retaliaterguitar2

3 ай бұрын

I love racing A Class for this reason. S1 is about as far as I like to go. Not that I can't do S2 or X but it's for more of a challenge than it is fun.

@GPGMan703

3 ай бұрын

You have to compare it to other cars in the game. This car isn't bad by any means by it just doesn't stand out any more than the other 3 cars that we got this month and you can't even do as much with it. It's a cool car by why would I use this over the Sesto, CCGT, Mclaren Senna, CLK GTR, F40c, Molser, FXXK EVO, or any of the other time attack/race built cars. It's good just not good enough.

I feel that this car shines better for the shorter and more cornering tracks

@valkeitos

3 ай бұрын

It is called a time attack car for a reason.

@slowaccord

3 ай бұрын

Dont bring logic into this its an ar12 video 😂

@thephrontist93

3 ай бұрын

@@slowaccord These people can't handle logic any more than they can handle 950 horses. Yet they cry it's just a game, but get upset about real-life implications for this game.

@GozuTenno962

3 ай бұрын

​@@thephrontist93you are also forgetting that this time attack car is almost 13 years old. Today's time attack cars are pushing way more horses, less weight and hell of a lot down force.

@GozuTenno962

3 ай бұрын

Nope it's hopelessly outmatched by the CCGT, Viper AE and Valkyrie AMR

I was expecting the Time Attack EVO was actually good but it turns out it’s not really good at all because lacks of horsepower

@jackboulter4901

3 ай бұрын

Lack of horsepower? it has 950 stock, weighs nothing, and can be upgraded to slick tires. Also, you do realise the developers may have not been able to give it horsepower upgrades as the people who built car might have said to them they can't as part of the licensing, its still a cool car, yes it's a shame we can't give it more power but make it sound crap when it really isn't.

@sto1asgoetia600

3 ай бұрын

Most time attack cars these days are pushing out about 900-1400 horsepower

@bigiron2863

3 ай бұрын

Its already built why build it more

@thephrontist93

3 ай бұрын

It's got 950Hp. How much more do you want?

@FranquitoMV2004

3 ай бұрын

​@@bigiron2863cuz its a videogame to have fun

Here for that crispy 144p quality

@sufianshahid3690

3 ай бұрын

Ikr it's so weird

@thatNORMALviewer

3 ай бұрын

it probably premiered as soon as he uploads it. YT uploads a low res version before the video fully uploads and progressively improves the video as it finishes uploading.

Ar12 is a legend in the forza community but he does not know how to build a car 😂😂

@Masterr.po5

3 ай бұрын

He expect every car will be upgraded and make more than 1000 which is why “sucks” that he can’t make 1000hp.

@AR12Gaming

3 ай бұрын

bro its just slow LOL

@Jihnbully112

3 ай бұрын

@@AR12Gaming love you bro 😘😘

@gamingjournalismisajoke4955

3 ай бұрын

​@@AR12Gaming 900HP is ANYTHING but slow.

@KnightBoss7

3 ай бұрын

@@Jihnbully112what the heck😂

By this logic, every car in S2 that isn't a Brabham, BttB, Sesto Elemento FE, or Viper AE sucks because none of them can realistically compete with them. The Evo doesn't suck. It's fun to drive and is showing love to a car that wouldn't otherwise get much attention. Just because you can't sweat with it online doesn't mean it sucks. Doesn't help that most tracks in FH5 suck because they're just straight lines for the most part with a couple of slight turns.

@Tougedrift

3 ай бұрын

It sucks online and it sucks at setting laps, there's no need to sugar coat it. You can find it fun and I would understand why but the car objectively sucks.

@nekotranslates

3 ай бұрын

@@Tougedrift If you take it to the shorter tracks like Los Jardin, then it's a beast. But if you take it to the sprint down near the bridge just after the abandoned airport, then nope - other cars would go faster as its mostly straight

@aurastrike

3 ай бұрын

I mean, yeah. That's how people think. "If it's not the best, it's not worth my time" Yes, the evo is quite good at what it does. But you are never ever seeing any sort of competitive ability with the car and that's what matters most in FH.

@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens

3 ай бұрын

@@Tougedrift Take it to the place it's actually meant to be, which is short twisty tracks, and it doesn't suck. The problem is the game doesn't promote short tracks. It's all just straight lines which favor power builds

@Tougedrift

3 ай бұрын

@@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens I don't think the issue is that it is a grip car, I see the GT3/GTE cars online all the time and they are absolutely anemic in straight lines. The issue lies in the fact that it's stuck in the middle of S2 which limits what you can use it for. I think it is a fun car but it's not even close to being good at what it's supposed to do, especially compared to similar cars.

Now it may not have a lot of upgrades to make a 1000hp but it's still a perfect car to turn into a Fast and furious Tokyo Drift car

I was hyped up for it the most, after Camaro ofc and then I saw “….. sucks” :((

@kasper_429

3 ай бұрын

It's still great. Nick just thinks it "sucks" because he can't make it undriveable 🤣. Not every car needs to be OP. The game would be super boring then, lol.

@spaz8461

3 ай бұрын

It really doesn’t suck. In real life this car is extremely fast. But forza sweats won’t even look at a car if it makes less than 1000hp.

@kasper_429

3 ай бұрын

@@spaz8461 Exactly. I don't get why people have to be sweaty in a racing/driving game, lmao.

@novi-t3c6

3 ай бұрын

It doesnt suck

All the last cars released by forza:95%"dissapointing"5%"super ultra gega meta" This is one of the reasons most of forzas audience stopped playing (including me)

@Twiggo_The_Foxxo

3 ай бұрын

Forza fans when pgg doesn't add the ultra mega poopenfarten op car (Forza is somehow the worst game in existence)

@Godssecondcomingissoon

3 ай бұрын

@@Twiggo_The_Foxxo nobody likes meta cars,but that does not mean the developers can just give us the same reskined cars with no customization

@Twiggo_The_Foxxo

3 ай бұрын

@@Godssecondcomingissoon don't think it's a copy and paste vehicle other then "it's a evo lol"

Only Forza streamers would complain about 900+ hp and say it "sucks" when doing something it wasn't built to do

@nightcreeper3839

3 ай бұрын

Is that not the whole point of Horizon is to have creative freedom? Why else would they put offroad tires on it.

@nickwilliams207

3 ай бұрын

And it’s stuck in between middle of s2 class so you can’t take it online.

@purple_beany

3 ай бұрын

@@nickwilliams207 who cares about online?

@purple_beany

3 ай бұрын

@@nightcreeper3839 you can, that's fine But if it sucks at off-road, then don't off-road it. Simple

@JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens

3 ай бұрын

@@nightcreeper3839 The point is having fun, not obsessing over meta

its funny how the energy in the vid changed soon as he seen you couldnt add any power lmao

it’s a nice car to just cruise around in driving around tight roads and making lap times n such to just mess around and looks cool

If only you could give it more horsepower or make it lighter, then it would be awesome... but 950 hp with that weight, despite sounding insane IRL, it's not enough for S2 class in the game.

Nick: "It sucks." Also Nick: **Tries to make it do everything it's not meant to do, and is disappointed when it can't do said things well** This is a Time Attack car. It's meant to be grippy and fast through the corners on smaller, tighter tracks. You took it on a big circuit with long straights, then off-roading, and then drifting (in AWD for some reason; it "only" has 950 HP, you knew that it would still be too "slow"/grippy for drifting in AWD, but did it anyway; put RWD on it and drift it again). Take it on the Volcano Sprint or a tight custom track and then rate it. Lol.

@aurastrike

3 ай бұрын

The problem is that there are cars in this class that easily outperform the evo even in the evo's natural habitat. If it had even 1100 horsepower or more, it would smash records due to the grip available to you

@kasper_429

3 ай бұрын

@@aurastrike yeah, unfortunately the stupid-fast cars are the "meta". I wish the S2 class performance/HP was more reasonable/realistic.

@gamingmamba2584

3 ай бұрын

The problem is with a car that's this high up in S2. 950 horsepower IRL is crazy, but it ain't shit compared to a bunch of the other cars in this game. Every car with the 6.2 V8 swap can build more power than this thing.

Those exhaust crackles at the beginning are insane

not every car needs to be op...

@moosnail5410

3 ай бұрын

doesn't mean that they should half ass it.

@diamondworrior2401

3 ай бұрын

​@@moosnail5410just enjoy the car for what it is, doesn't need upgrades to have fun with it

@romie-777

3 ай бұрын

every car should atleast have a chance to be competitive though

@diamondworrior2401

3 ай бұрын

@@romie-777 why?

@romie-777

3 ай бұрын

@@diamondworrior2401 because this car cant reach the top of s2 class, it’s completely useless for online racing. it wouldve been nice if it had either power upgrades on the stock engine, weight reduction, or engine swaps they couldve done any of those to make the car better but no, they have to restrict it to 950hp, which holds it back in the horizon sense and prevents it from ever being useful. not even the drift build is good either because it also lacks power

Crazy as soon I saw you couldnt tune it I knew the community wouldnt be happy with it as everyone been waiting for that.

This Evo may be nuts, but time attack has cars that are even more ridiculous. The first car that immediately comes to mind is if anyone even remembers/played NFS Shift 2 Unleashed will probably know about that bonkers Scion tC.

Not every car has to be competitive, at the end of the day fh5 at its base in a single player game

0:50 Goldens Pfp is...interesting

That's such a shame that you can't get it into S1, and it goes nowhere near top of S2?? Is there even another car in the game that doesn't hit the top of a single class!?

Tried it in Rivals and it was a Beast!! I'm excited to unlock it despite the missing upgrades..

finally, a car that is just cool that doesn't need to be the best at anything. Best new car in years.

You speak of the EVOs being nerfed, which I do agree on, but in general a lot of the 4 cylinder engines are nerfed in the game. The one that bothers me the most is the Honda K20 (2.0L I4 VVT in the game), which maxes out at 719hp. In real life a fully built stroked turbo K20 can easily make 900-1000hp.

@mannymf21

3 ай бұрын

What bothers me even more is they haven’t bothered to really change the power output on those k series since the first or second horizon. Another car is the eclipse. 4g63 capable of 2000+ depending on use but only has like 600 ingame. And the only way to make more power is to swap for that stupid rally engine

9:59 nick sounds exactly like my parents but change Car to my name lol

This car is exactly what I call "driven/built by some famous people but with so few customizations", in which way so many cool cars are almost useless.

So you're mad that you can't max out an already maxed out car 😅

@trviis

3 ай бұрын

It’s literally useless. Can’t compete in s2, and can’t be downgraded to s1. At least it’s cool but it sucks for racing

@firefightszz

3 ай бұрын

@@trviiswho even plays competitive multiplayer on FH5 anyway? Maybe just have fun with it lol.

@ryanjagpal123

3 ай бұрын

@@trviisWho cares about competitive that much

Love how the Devs actually put the equal length headers in the engine bay 🤩

As a time attack car, it would likely work better on technical circuits with lots of corners and less straightaways. However, it might not be enough to overtake the meta S2 cars on the leaderboard.

This is my favorite car they added to the playlist yet it’s a monster

he doesn't do the one thing this car will dominate at and then calls it bad...

@aurastrike

3 ай бұрын

because it also won't dominate there in this class

@mikejonestheoneandonly

3 ай бұрын

@@aurastrikesuch a forza kid response

This is also one of the VERY few cars that are in the middle-ish of S2 Class and can’t reach 998. such a bummer :-(

Hey, Nick, I've got an idea for a future challenge- "Build Your Own Time Attack Car"

They didn't want nick to full send😂😂

It's weird how I have the most polar opposite feeling towards this car. I freaking love it. It's my favorite car in all Forza games combined. Evo and RX-7 are my favorite cars and it's like my birthday

@01iverQueen

3 ай бұрын

Same dude same

@125ji

3 ай бұрын

I love it too, I don’t care too much about speed, it sounds amazing to me

@tomme19

3 ай бұрын

Same here! Love it

@ianinnes5923

3 ай бұрын

Same Brother, I love this car. It's a hill climb/time attack racer that's why it's super grippy and handles well. Not sure why it gets slated as it is a top tier car. I bet that you could smash S1 races in this with the amount of grip this thing has.

@01iverQueen

3 ай бұрын

@@ianinnes5923 I went into online with it and if there aren't too many straights it leaves every car in the dust, even the aston martin valkyrie which is basically the F1 car for the road. There is a saying that adding too much power to the car could hinder it's performance and I agree with it

Lol I literally just switched to the evo!

the devs did us dirty with this car

Oh but the Supervan 4.0 had NOTHING to upgrade and was praised...

Honestly I don't ever give a shit about new cars will be good at online racing or not,as long as they're cool & interesting cars or have good customization options that will be a good car for me. Not every car have to be good or op at online racing. Having cool cars to cruising around are a good thing as well

This car is amazing, I don’t care about power, it’s one of the most satisfying sounding cars in the game, the bangs between gears and doing launch control is unmatchable

Nah for a mid s2 STOCK, damn it sucks

Because you can’t get much more out of evos..hence why the high hp ones aren’t around any more at all.

i own one of these in fh5, the cockpit view when im driving gives me goat sim 3 vibes

@someguywhodoesntupld

3 ай бұрын

not to be off topic about "goat sim 3"

did anyone else see when upgrading the evo - the name is so long it cut into the credits bar?

Im glad you said about forza hating evos there pretty generous with the ppwer upgrades im talking fm3-fm8 maybe let us get 850 900 brake as a 4g63 is capable of that but mostly i feel like they nerf the handeling on them the most

Fun fact the evo still does compete I went to time attack in Australia a couple years ago where it competed

Shut up, 950 is more then enough, its TIME ATTACK, fast in corners not for straight line speed and long straigts circuits

@GozuTenno962

3 ай бұрын

It's worse cornering than the max S2 998 cars like, Viper AE, Valkyrie AMR, F50 GT, CCGT, Huayra R and SCV12.

The car doesn't suck. The PI rating sucks and is way off. No parts/tuning options > can't tune it for a decent S2. Can't decrease it for a decent P1.

He definitely gets skill issues in his dreams

“It’s built for going round corners quickly” disappointed at its drag racing time 🧐🧐

Just because a car isn’t OP doesn’t mean it sucks

This is a fully built extreme race car why are we shocked it’s not got many upgrades. Not every car needs to be X class

Nick and keep up the good work real true and I love the video 😂😂😂good 👍 Evo

Nick: has L take on car. Everyone else: Agrees because Daddy Nick says so.

@RidgeRunner4501

3 ай бұрын

How is it an L take? God forbid people want more performance out of a performance car in a game where you can swap a 1,750hp V8 into a surprisingly high amount of cars

@AR12Gaming

3 ай бұрын

Sorry I wanted to drive it online and not finish last

@thephrontist93

3 ай бұрын

@@AR12Gaming You might want to see your doctor about your Skill Issue disease

@thephrontist93

3 ай бұрын

@@RidgeRunner4501 Most people who play the game can't handle 500 HP. It's all bragging rights until skill actually matters.

@mrunoreversecardiamimmune8335

3 ай бұрын

@@thephrontist93 your take is more L than anything else bro

it may not have a lot of power which 950 is a lot, if it had above 1000 it may not have had the crazy handling it could maybe be good but most cars when put insane amounts of hp they started getting understeer. my opinion

I can imagine any Forza fan buying a 1,000 horsepower Evo in real life and thinking “wow, just imagine how fast this will be when I put a big turbo on it!”

Bro the name is to long at the top right corner that it crashed on the credit points💀

It's definitely disappointing. 950HP is no joke, especially for an Evo. But with Forza Horizon being Forza Horizon. TA cars and certain other cars need to be power scaled up to get the true and real sens of how insane this car is in real life.

The time attack evo sounds like the ford focus rs rx from fh4

Need to redo this with the engine swaps

An here I am waiting for the R8_1_1 R8 time attack car to be included in forza..

Hey nick. Keep being great!

Before Nick: This is going to be ONE of the coolest cars yet in FH5! After Nick: My disappointment is miserable and my Day is ruined

@SmolCommunity

3 ай бұрын

true

Wasn't expecting it to suck

@LoserSnoozer

3 ай бұрын

@@gabehowe2778 it's rather that can't get the PI to the top of one class or the other, sure it could suck top of S2 but if you could make it top of S1 and still be competitive with meta S1 cars or at least have fun with them, that would be better

@AR12Gaming

3 ай бұрын

Bro it can't get to the top of the class in either S1 or S2. There's no competitive use for this car which is exactly what I said in the video lol

@GozuTenno962

3 ай бұрын

​@@AR12Gamingpeople sadly don't get it

@gamingmamba2584

3 ай бұрын

​@@AR12Gaming same is also applied to the Supervan 4, yet you simp over that thing

@MrHappyUnicorn

3 ай бұрын

​@@AR12Gamingcar sucks for me nick

Nick plz make a challange for Lowriders in FH5. Its a big part of mexican culture. Why devs forget about this...

i find it perfect for street races, no need for more hp, just this car isnt for everyone and everything, not every car needs to be perfect for every possible scenario and race

I would relook at this car, its really good at Danger signs

I really like this car. Design is cool, cool sounds, sexy under the hood. I just don’t race with it, I’ll drive it around tho

Nickypoo, master of them skill issues, is back

why cant people just appreciate this car for what it is? it looks amazing, sounds amazing, and drives amazing bone stock. not every car has to top the leaderboards

I love the big thumps on upshifts

The car is actually a beast, sure if you want to do everything like drifting, speed zones, off-road etc, then prob not, but if you say only do road racing and street racing, then it's a beast for sure. Yes, the car is a beast at specific things, but not a beast at everything.

Honestly im not surprised when im disappointed by this game anymore, its more surprising when im not, really hope the next game they put out has mote effort put into it

Car might be fun on those togue tracks.

The fact it doesn't have any power upgrades is weird. 950 while mega for when this car was built is now kinda slow. The Tilton Evo IX, an Australian built time attack Evo is making 1200 hp on a 2,2l 4G63. The current king of WTAC, the Porsche RP968 is making close to 1500 hp in race trim and the engine in it is apparently capable for 2000+ HP and both of those cars have even more downforce than this Evo. It's a cool car but just wish more could be done to as from what it seems, 1200+ is more than doable on that engine in real life so why can't we also do it in the game?

This car now has 2 more engine swaps one pushin 1400 hp Please make a new video about it

Definitely should've used snow tires trying to drift that

The only thing I would’ve wanted from this car is maybe like turbo and intercooler and maybe engine black like what the higher horsepower cars have where you can only put like three upgrades but they give you decent horsepower and I’m not saying make it like those cars were the engine upgrades to give you another 800 hp. I’d be happy if this car was like 13 1400.

I'll be honest, i kinda saw it coming when the update dropped. Having a TA car like this one doesn't make it any less interesting, but given the balance of the game when it comes to car classes, it indeed feels like an outcast That won't stop me from getting it, and driving the hell out of it 😂

1:03 the reason the engine audio cuts out behind the crackles is because it was simply *TOO LOUD* for their microphones, which died during recording lmfao

I would definitely say it's not bad just disappointed we don't get any engine upgrades

5:13 Nick : we have 1000hp

People need to stop complaining This is a time attack car. Of course this car won’t have a good top speed coz it’s got tons of downforce.

@SmolCommunity

3 ай бұрын

reduce the downfore

It wouldve been really cool if it was a monster in the corners to compensate for the low power, itd also be more accurate bc time attack lmao

Tuned right it makes a pretty good drift car, it’s just about the only thing you can do with it.

A 3.0 in launch is actually ridiculous.

the car sticks to the ground i love it

I can’t believe people are complaining about this car.

I was actually kinda hyped to get this car… now that I have it don’t care about it

Dude what? This car is sweet

i think the issue is that they made it middle s2, if it was either top s2 or top s1 itd be way better

I enjoy the car the exhuast crackle is different and sounds great specially launching

I think at the least they should've added in engine swaps like the Racing 7.2L V8 to help max it out in S2 class, that way both the purists and those who want to unleashed its potential in the game are happy with it. But at the end of the day, it's supposed to be enjoyed as it is.

Golden if you are here, your xbox pfp goes hard.

When one of my personal favorite cars of this update gets absolutely DOGGED on by nick

Waaaa it doesn’t have power… one of my favorite touge cars in fh5 is a 192hp civic hatch. It is bone stock except a little bit more power and it’s my fastest touge car that isn’t some awd 1000hp supercar ive built for grip. My civic would easily keep up with a stock e92 on a touge and it’s like I said under 200hp

Maybe they'll update it, who knows? So disappointing, they had a chance for another great update and they threw.

I wouldn't say the car sucks, but that the modifications suck

@MrHappyUnicorn

3 ай бұрын

True that

@gqdzilla

3 ай бұрын

@@MrHappyUnicorn fr, and even then, the car is still fun to drive. I just wish the studio did a better job at coneying the speed your going, yk?

This is a problem with some Forza cars. They don't have enough upgrades to get them to the top of their class. And it's a shame because this thing is cool as hell