When Tories were once statesmen. I have never agreed with their policies, but in this man you can see the marked difference in capabilities to the babbling bus stop queue that currently forms the front bench of the commons

@evolassunglasses4673

Жыл бұрын

Globalisation destroyed the nation state democracy decades ago unfortunately.

@2k50neil

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@petersmith5811

Жыл бұрын

Clearly, Heseltine was and still is, light-years ahead of the current crop of Tory space cadets.

@LL-vk9zc

Жыл бұрын

'Babbling bus stop queue' - This is one I shall use myself. Excellent description, thank you.

@chrislambert9435

Жыл бұрын

Graham, I see your point but in my view even Heseltine is not that impressive

Comparing Michael Heseltine to Boris Johnson is like witnessing the evolution from early hominids to modern humans in reverse.

@versioncity1

Жыл бұрын

Don't put down early hominids with such a comparison.

@foraustralia2558

Жыл бұрын

Great call ... congrats ...

@davidjohn64

Жыл бұрын

Michael Heseltine , has respect and creditability . A quality lacked by Politicians of both political parties today . UK is doomed , well deserved ...

@tomfinney3416

Жыл бұрын

both are tory slugs , they could never evolve into humans

@KarlHamilton

Жыл бұрын

Excellently put

"I beg my noble Lord, I am in favour of free and open discussion, I would not want to see you silenced in any way, the floor is yours, please"... There was something very dignified in those words, no shouting or mocking, it felt like a man who knew the right way to do things is by sensible discussion

@theforeignspeculator

Жыл бұрын

Elite satire there sir, the silenced urging the silencer and the crowd not to silence him, British satire and sarcasm at its best, don’t read too much nobility in to it.

@alalalala57

Жыл бұрын

​@@theforeignspeculator I don't think you understand what satire is...

@harry130747

Жыл бұрын

We never had any discussion about joining the EUSSR. He's an old hypocrite

@jeremybunn8473

11 ай бұрын

@@harry130747 Oh Oh....look out ....here comes someone from Idiots Corner!

@JD1010101110

11 ай бұрын

thats because half of them are asleep and the other half have soiled themselves.

Everything he stood for in his time in government is an anathema to me. And yet I find myself wanting to hear more and hearing the kind of sensible words which seem to be such a rarity in modern politics. The Overton Window has indeed shifted in such a way that men we once despised for their policies are some of the last vestiges of genuine statesmanship

@Elaine-tk7nx

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

@billyandrew

Жыл бұрын

Summed up nicely and I'm in total agreement.

@darreno2428

Жыл бұрын

I'd like to hear what he has to say about the new EU tourism tax, you know the very secretive one where they have openly said that they don't have to reveal where that tax is going. Don't you just love the EU and their totalitarianism.

@JavaAndroid

Жыл бұрын

His belief is irrelevant, the British public demanded OUT, and, he has not been elected. Traitor.

@dat581

Жыл бұрын

Or you just fall for any old snake oil salesman.

When mps had gravitas, oratorical skills, intelligence, knowledge and a real desire to serve their country.

@capt.bart.roberts4975

Жыл бұрын

We've still got one, from his time in parliament, one Jeremy Corbyn. A man with more integrity, than a vast majority of MPs and Lords.

@petergaskin1811

Жыл бұрын

Listen to Alyn Smith new SNP Foreign Affairs Spokesman in the Commons. Superstar speaker ain't in it.

@TrOgaN_

Жыл бұрын

He's a trator, selling out his country to foreign powers.

@GOLDSMITHEXILE

Жыл бұрын

tarzan hesslestein is nothing of the sort. Dont befooled by a spot of slobbering "oratory" He is no more than an opportunistic, obsequious errand boy fixer for the rich and powerful tory donor trans national open borders capitalist interests, always has been, obviously still is. Hesslestein was and still is a thatcherite free market tory. He and his tory collaborators lets not forget, enthusiastically enacted the milton friedmann economic revolution starting in 1979 which was designed to punish the working class of Britain, de-nationalise everything, and make it FAR easier for trans national open borders capitalism to thrive unhindered and unregulated...one reason why he was always a big fan of the eu empire (which was conceived and created by powerful rich european capitalist interests to faciliatate easier trans national business, among themselves of course). All this happening while British manufacturing industry was being deliberately decommissioned to ruin, capital instead decided to exploit china/india/taiwan/viet nam etc for the cheap labour and production costs, and the focus for the thatcherite mentality was (and still is) "the city"

@jamescoe764

Жыл бұрын

Serve. That's the key word, rather than asset strip...

Regardless of my strong belief in socialism...I can still recognise that the Conservatives of old - had a degree of sense and integrity .

@thefirm4606

Жыл бұрын

Thatcher thatcher milk snatcher???

@petergaskin1811

Жыл бұрын

One always forgets that it was Michael Heseltine who introduced Comprehensive Schools to the UK. Now there's not that many people who know that.

@garyb455

Жыл бұрын

Socialism has never worked in any Country

@andrew300169

Жыл бұрын

Indeed whilst I disliked many of the old Thatcher team they would be considered quite centralist today. One thing you couldn’t argue was they were very competent even in their efforts to remove the mining industry, you may not like it but they were competent

@bandsaw345

Жыл бұрын

The like of you should piss off the china and live there for a few years, see if you have the same feeling . Fabian

He was the only Tory MP to take responsibility and went to Brixton and Toxteth after the riots, staying for three weeks and listened to the community problems with employment, housing, education and the police.

@philldavies7940

14 күн бұрын

Do you remember how he went on TV in support of the mining communities? Then he shafted them.

'Tis nearly sixty years ago that I heard Mr. Heseltine make a speech. He was campaigning to be an M.P. It were made in some some school or other. My dad, who was with me, and who was not a Tory supporter, said afterwards. "He's good. He'll go far." How right me dad was.

I am NOT a Tory supporter!!! But I respect Mr. Heseltine for speaking truth to the complete lack of leadership and direction his Party is taking this nation. Absolutely down the toilet unless WE THE PEOPLE take back control from this government of the day. Total wrecking ball policies from today's Tories!!!

@craigfowler7098

Жыл бұрын

Did agree with him in Europe though

@didierlemoine6771

Жыл бұрын

people of Britain voted for this party in power !

@Indigenous1947

Жыл бұрын

As soon as anyone talks about "taking back control by the people" there is less response to this comment than the others. I wonder why ?

@RazorMouth

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't have to worry about being elected though.

@neilfranklin5644

Жыл бұрын

Keep on swinging tarzan.

Never a big fan of Michael Heseltine but by god at 89 years old he can still wipe the floor with this bunch of clowns and conmen who are currently in government

@robkeeleycomposer

Жыл бұрын

That's because they aren't Conservatives any more. Heseltin as as self-serving as any of them.

@trevoraustin9311

Жыл бұрын

Your only saying that because you voted remain

Ah the good old days when politicians were vaguely competent.

@silkydee2009

9 ай бұрын

money was harder to come by back then.

@digitaldiorama

7 ай бұрын

And when they weren't or were found to lying, had the good grace to resign.

Great speech and one of the rare politicians getting better the older he becomes. He reminds me of the German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, who became more and more respected after he retired from politics.

@johnnyguitar6697

9 ай бұрын

Apt comparison. Giscard D'Estaing was the same in France. He was not much loved as a president, but became very respected in his older days. A voice of reason.

Heseltine is like the opposite of today's conservative; well-educated, sagacious, brave, honest, man of the people, can look beyond flags, & has such foresight due to learning from mistakes. Listen to this man. He is the last of his generation who are not disconnected from their humanity.

@the195111

Жыл бұрын

try reading back issues of Private Eye..

@gdwnet

Жыл бұрын

@@the195111 There is no comparrison between what we have today and what we had then. Say what you want about Thatcher but she absolutely believed she was helping the country and business. This lot only help themselves.

@toriesdontgettazered7464

Жыл бұрын

His nickname was Tarzan and he was as nasty as they came back in the day

@the195111

Жыл бұрын

Gary I voted Labour since I became 18 in 1969,BUT swerved them last election.,never voted for the first time,

@the195111

Жыл бұрын

@@toriesdontgettazered7464 ..swinging The Mace about in Parliament...OH DEAR..

It's shameful when the unelected House of Lords are more in touch than the elected governing party.

@dang2651

Жыл бұрын

Apart from the guy to the right who is just here for nap time. But yeah.

@chickybiker

Жыл бұрын

@@dang2651 if by "nap" you mean "leaning towards the embedded speakers in the seats to hear better", yes.

@dang2651

Жыл бұрын

@@chickybiker thanks for the correction. I should pay more attention at times.

@adventtrooper

Жыл бұрын

That's why we need to get rid of the HoL and replace it with another house of 'elected' party members that can be swapped out every few years. Nothing quite like being able to deselect them to ensure they tow the party line.

@crazyfishmonster459

Жыл бұрын

Is it? Why are the elected automatically more likely to be 'in touch' with the electors who put them there? Modern politics is simply the art of promising the smallest possible majority of your polity that you will do some things that they put you there for.

The dude sleeping on the left, cracked me up 😂

@Angy_and_Ema

Жыл бұрын

He's not sleeping. Pay more attention.

@vinniechenz73

Жыл бұрын

​@Angy&Ema You won't want him to be your train driver as your coming into Liverpool st.

@hotspur1974

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@billyandrew

Жыл бұрын

He's waiting for his club to open for luncheon and a good bottle of claret. He's saved his daily allowances for a week and will splurge the grand and a half on a beano.

@MrHellsteeth

Жыл бұрын

Older people are hard of hearing. Built into the wooden roses embedded into the seats are loudspeakers. He is most probably trying hard to listen

I remember Lord Heseltine from my youth. This commentary is a cautionary tale of what happens when a nation decides to carry out a radical change without working out the particulars beforehand.

@johnschuh8616

Жыл бұрын

More like when a country is controlled by an oligarchy that will not submit to the outcome of a referendum they proposed.

@michaelsteane9926

Жыл бұрын

You mean joining the EU or leaving it?

@here_we_go_again2571

Жыл бұрын

*Both joining the EU and leaving it (Brexit) did not benefit the sovereignty* *of the UK or the British people!*Joining did not respect British culture,laws and history. Leaving was poorly planned and carried out. (Although not having to help pay for a European defense force is a plus for the UK)

@nicolaablett7790

Жыл бұрын

And asking the right questions

@ThoriberoCaroli

Жыл бұрын

@@johnschuh8616 I mean, the referendum was rather binary, was it not? Leave or stay. There were no additional criteria to judge wether or Brexit got done. Only leave or stay. And the UK has left. So what part of the referendum have they not submited to? You might very well critique British politicans and civil servant for not carrying out a "proper Brexit", but if you would have wanted to hold them responsible to more than just leaving, you should have demanded a more detailed referendum. Your idea of a Brexit was not put up for question. Rather, potentially, 17 410 742 ideas of Brexit. But sure. Instead of inherant difficulites in leaving the most complicate political structure divised by man, it might just be the fault of traitors. In that case, time for a revolution, is it not? ^^

This old politician still has some fire in him.

@seafoodpizza

Жыл бұрын

The rest of them fell asleep

@TheScotsalan

Жыл бұрын

Tarzan 👍

@frankhyland6333

Жыл бұрын

@@seafoodpizza Say no more!

@23715

Жыл бұрын

He's quite brilliant.

@FlyingKeo045

Жыл бұрын

And commitment along with bravery to state the blindingly obvious.

Never in a million years would I have ever imagined agreeing with Heseltine. But he hit the nail on the head.

@therealjetlag

Жыл бұрын

I was just thinking the same thing. If you’d told me, 35 years ago, that I would listen to Heseltine speak and agree with him, I would have spit my snakebite and black right in your face 😂

@TheMrReee

Жыл бұрын

@@lloydnaylor6113 Funny how the ignorant always pop up, well done 👏

@therealjetlag

Жыл бұрын

@@lloydnaylor6113 Still have nothing constructive to say 🥱

@donnellykieranj

Жыл бұрын

It should not come as a great surprise though. He's a decent old one nation Tory, europhile and a man that has consistently talked a lot of sense over this Brexit fiasco. Even though I'm red leaning at heart, he's a man who I've the utmost respect for. In short a Tory I could vote for.

@TheMrReee

Жыл бұрын

@@donnellykieranj reluctantly agree 👍

"They did not know what they were doing" How sad and how long will it take to ever trust our leaders again, if ever.

@Astraltraveller05

11 ай бұрын

I vividly remember the morning after the vote to leave Johnson and Gove stood together with cameras flashing then the dawning on both their faces when asked so what now? The pair of them stood stock still like rabbits caught in the headlights of a car, that moment embodied for me my suspicion all through the campaign that there was no plan, nothing, a complete void of any idea what to do next. It wasn’t car headlights rather a juggernaut headlights and they still no idea what to do. There is of course only one answer but all politicians currently have no bottle to utter the obvious.

@ellastarrr1st149

10 ай бұрын

Just like now they still don't know what they're doing.

@alex.velasco

10 ай бұрын

You highlighted the point of his speech… and the crux of the matter.

What a magnificent example of articulate English leadership, common sense and history. If only England the UK could once again have dignified, intelligent, leadership and wisdom like this at the upper echelons of our political system, we would all be better off. Lets face it, Brexit is a failure, the current government is an embarrassment and is ruining the legacy and economy of one of the worlds greatest leading nations. We all need to take responsibility for our British government and each other as times are more dire than we think. We are at a crucial turning point in this nation. Do the right thing.

Heseltine has been right in everything he has said about Brexit all the way through. I am a democratic socialist but I have respect for him because he is a patriot wanting the best for the UK. He is/ was a one nation Tory with a belief in public service and the need for the state to provide a safety net for its citizens. On industry he was right in calling for an interventionist state- neither party has had an industrial strategy of any meaning for around 40 years. It would be easy to find fault with the Tories and they have wrecked Britain for over forty years ( longer) but Heseltine deserves respect for his position on Europe.

@blindstagehand

Жыл бұрын

You hear sense when you hear it, sounds like bullshit when it's not, downright barefaced lies halftimes, so it's a joy to hear it from someone with deep roots of Conservatism in him.

@The-Anti-Zionist

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, and I’m more left than Mao

@onlyme8117

Жыл бұрын

Expert is he? Does he know we are still waiting for brexit to happen?

@AshOwnz9

Жыл бұрын

@@onlyme8117 What are you waiting for?

@fuzzle9392

Жыл бұрын

@@onlyme8117 "...waiting for brexit to happen?" Can you explain your point, quoted above, in a bit more depth?

My God that felt good to listen to this! It is a shame that we are going backwards in every single aspect of political life. Including the spine and aptitude of the todays frontline political figures!

@GOLDSMITHEXILE

Жыл бұрын

starmers as 2 faced and duff as the torys, cant even tell you what a woman is🤣

@petergaskin1811

Жыл бұрын

@@GOLDSMITHEXILE Nitwit.

@badbatch78

Жыл бұрын

Going backwards feels apt. Rhetoric and grandstanding was a politician's way in the times of ancient Romans and ancient Greeks. The modern Conservative party has wholeheartedly embraced this approach to whip up the crowd of frothing right-wing lunatics.

@tokenspirit6140

Жыл бұрын

Everything is going backward, it would seem. Seniority and master trainers are nowhere to be found. Whatever happened to accountability and qualifications? This is a self-aggrandized world of spoilt younger people, who think they invented the wheel, and can do anything, without being answerable to the process of experiential qualification Let's not forget the Corporate Agenda, which holds power over all....as well as governments!

@scatmann5839

Жыл бұрын

It's not just British political life that's going backwards, our entire society is. Sometimes, I wonder if I've teleported into some third world country. Then I realise I live in one! 😔😫

Trouble with politicians: they truly believe we put them there to do what THEY wish, not what WE order them to do.

I do wonder what the UK would be like today if MIchael Heseltine had made it as prime minister A man that always makes sense when he speaks

@kiwitrainguy

Жыл бұрын

I've heard it said that the job of a journalist is to seperate the wheat from the chaff and then make sure that the chaff gets printed. Perhaps a similar thing applies to the appointment of political leaders.

@ericteng7725

Жыл бұрын

We shall never know, now shall we? Sometimes life can be a bitch, sad isn't it?

@UNKN0WN_1

Жыл бұрын

People are easily tiered by people that make sense. In fact someone Making Sense undermines other peoples ego more often then not. Unsettling. Mob prefers someone who they do not fear, someone they can resonate with, someone imperfect and not very cleaver.. Someone they feel can be outsmarted by the average joe in the mob. Now Queen and Royalty are the shining ones, different breed, the holy virgin on the hill. A symbol of the Godliness on this world... Even if they are wrong, they are Right..

@alancooper3331

9 ай бұрын

In the EU still and the money would be the Euro.

@FallenPhoenix86

9 ай бұрын

@@alancooper3331 "In the EU still" - Yes... and that would be a good thing. "and the money would be the Euro." - Maybe, maybe not... you're firmly in crystal ball territory here.

It’s shameful what’s happening to this country

@wumpty93

Жыл бұрын

Only gonna get worse. The next election isn't till 2025

@delcamelot

Жыл бұрын

Why ?

@Spurioushamster

Жыл бұрын

@@delcamelot not been paying attention, have you.

@delcamelot

Жыл бұрын

@@Spurioushamster That's why I want you to explain .

@etahenry3377

Жыл бұрын

Not really,it's a shameful country

Oh, when Tories were eloquent and principled (whatever you thought of them) how the standing of our politicians has fallen.

@MsCharlieBrown78

Жыл бұрын

hardly.. Thatcher waged a war on the Falklands to boost her ratings.

@stephanguitar9778

Жыл бұрын

But still cnts.

He did extremely well on claiming the farming subsidy for his several farms.

@spinnetti

Жыл бұрын

I'd have been shocked if any of the Thatcherites didn't profit from their policies. He wasn't wrong on this one though.

Hear! Hear! Michael......this parliament of Great Britain is hard to recognize these days.

The man is 90 years old, hes sharp

@23715

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@evilmario6061

Жыл бұрын

He also has more hair than me and I'm 32

_"not ...a, nautural supporter of foreigners"_ aww. Bless yer heart, I cried. I cried a whole rich warm and buttery Werther's Original from my eye.

Michael Hesiltine was always one of the good guys in the Conservative party even though there were not many. I could at least respect his arguments and the way he went up against Thatcher

@benjaminhuston1390

9 ай бұрын

Interesting, definitely one to follow and respect

Can't say that i agree with some of his political decisions in life, but i do commend him for the ability to stand up and give a coherent talk on aspects of his working life at such a fine age of 89! Hope he has a few more years in him, he might see us undo our mistake!

It comes to something when I look back on old tories with something akin to fondness

@grantmcinnes1176

Жыл бұрын

Right? I detested a lot of their policies, but at least it felt that they were rational adults who were at least *somewhat* interested in governing a country, instead of babbling narcissists with no coherent policy other than their own advancement.

@drummingtildeath

Жыл бұрын

@Grant McInnes exactly. I didn't agree with them but they were at least sane.

@helenswan705

Жыл бұрын

yes, really, I agree. Not Thatcher tho, but the ones who spoke and could speak well, with integrity.

Most interesting to hear Heseltine speak after so long. Thanks for uploading. and his vision seems quite clear. i do hope somebody (conservative) listens.

I worked in the defence dept of the British Embassy in Washington in the early 80s. He paid a visit to Washington and a reception was organized for him during which I described my role in procuring American made arms for British forces. He looked confused and asked me why I was buying American stuff. I don’t think he realized that British companies were incapable of making high-tech weapons

@person.X.

Жыл бұрын

There is a weird detachment from reality that is very common in the UK. I am an Englishman who has emigrated and I am often in the situation where I point out some down to earth realities to my UK friends and family. More often than not I get this gormless, blank faced, thousand yard stare thing happening which indicates that they simply cannot absorb the reality of the big wide world beyond little Britain and simply stick with comforting fantasy or the ostrich strategy of the head in the sand. It actually frightens me as it is delusional and indicates to me a society that will prove incapable of getting to grips with its problems. The UK is in danger of becoming the next Argentina.

@Leopar525

Жыл бұрын

@@person.X. very well said unfortunately. And the next generation coming does not seem up to the task

@yahyahussein425

Жыл бұрын

You just made that up didn’t you? Your syntax and spelling are extremely un English, particularly as you claim to have been in Washington in the 80’s which would make you by estimation about 70-80 years of age of which your English should be impeccable. Lastly but more importantly, Heseltine always mastered his brief and would not have spoken to a junior staff member like you. If you were really in the so called ‘defense department’ you would not be on here decribing this episode which surely didn’t occur and besides you would have an officer in the Army of Major’s rank and above and would have been on secondment to the MOD. NOT the ‘defence department’. Another bullshit artist.

I was never a fan of Hesseltine, but boy, does he talk a lot of sense now. I'm now proud to agree with him.

@apathyintheuk265

Жыл бұрын

'Proud' to a agree maybe with how wrong you were in the past? Or maybe not quite proud enough?

@anthonysmith8800

Жыл бұрын

@apathyintheuk Proud to admit I was correct in the past, Proud to agree I'm correct in the present. Hope that clears it up for you.

@georgeonearth

Жыл бұрын

@@apathyintheuk265 Is it not possible, do you think, to agree with a specific thing someone says, but not then have to say "Well they were right about everything else as well"? Is it not, in fact, not only possible, but the most common scenario? Or do you just agree with everything someone says once you've agreed with them once?

@apathyintheuk265

Жыл бұрын

@@georgeonearth Ah, but this scenario you create of 'agreement' does not necessarily engender the specifics of once, twice, three or more times or indeed never. Quantifiably, it would be innapropropriate to reason any specific outcome.

@rakhimukerji7937

Жыл бұрын

I ALWAYS FOUND HIM SENSIBLE.

This is an excellent and truthful statement on just how little our Brexit shouting politicians actually understood about the whole process of leaving the EU. Great harm has been done to the country and the foolish politicians who told their lies and convinced part of the population who then voted to leave still don't have a clue what to do.

@vsego17

Жыл бұрын

The politicians only ever look foolish if you (wrongly) assume that they act with the country's best interest on their mind, instead of their own.

@pyellard3013

Жыл бұрын

Should be "our Little Britain" Brexiteer politicans...

@philrothwell6858

Жыл бұрын

Still tied to the EU what do you expect

@pyellard3013

Жыл бұрын

@@philrothwell6858 We are tied to reality and the world.. Canada has tried to divert exports away from the USA but failed.. The size and geographical proximity of your nearest market matters.. Nevertheless, any tieing is voluntary.. Canada could treat the USA like North Korea or the UK treat the EU like N Korea.. Whether that is practical never mind in one's interest is another matter... Personally, if, for the sake of convenience, we agree to EU veterinary standards... Well, I won't feel under the jackpot of the Fourth Reich... That's because any such agreement will be..... VOLUNTARY...

A voice of sanity coming from one of their own . You don't see him lounging about on the front bench.

As much as I don't like the concept of a House of Lords and how they are nominated... At least the honorable and smart ones are the only ones compelled to attend and speak up. Lord Heseltine, elevating the value of what a Lordship is.

@hardcorelace7565

Жыл бұрын

I also dislike the house of lords but somehow they seem to be more in favour of the common person than the house of commons. It's weird.

@MolloyPolloy

Жыл бұрын

Of you didn't have the house of Lords ANY law could be written by the Tories... Anything. The house of Lords stops MPs acting like cunts. It does, however, need a total overall and should be elected.

@marcuswardle3180

Жыл бұрын

Oddly enough the only part of the House of Lords that is even remotely democratic, due to the Reforms, are the original Lords. There are, I believe, 73 actual Lords in the House of Lords left. When one of these dies or gives up his seat any 'real' Lord can apply for the seat. A vote is then taken, but only amongst the 'real' Lords, as to who takes the seat. At least this ensures that the person who takes it is interested in carrying out his duties in the Lord.

Never thought I’d respect Heselltine!

He was an absolute pain during the time of Thatcher!

I've never voted Tory but Michael Heseltine voices the arguments with great clarity that Brexit has nothing to offer. I'm still waiting to hear about the actual Brexit opportunities and benefits.

@reductio1000

Жыл бұрын

apparently one : "happy" fish ...

@henryfitch8710

Жыл бұрын

@@reductio1000 Explain.

@reductio1000

Жыл бұрын

@@henryfitch8710 i give you the "honourable" "sir" Jacob Rees-Mogg regarding the advantages of brexit.....2 years ago... Yes, unbelievable and indicative of the nitwits that pretend to represent us... kzread.info/dash/bejne/l51_z9OSj7W0fag.html

@henryfitch8710

Жыл бұрын

@@reductio1000 Rees-Mogg is a self regarding buffon who fakes old world charm.

@here_we_go_again2571

Жыл бұрын

Not having to help foot the bill for a new EUDF (European Union Defense Force) will be a plus for UK. France will now feel free to apply pressure to Germany. France is the natural and historical power of Europe (in particular Western Europe)

this is what the government is lacking; experience and statesmanship

@ilokivi

Жыл бұрын

Based on actual knowledge, of the field of activity brought into question. With a strong sense of purpose to guide strategic planning.

What a great statesman! As a middle-aged German, I am old enough to remember Margret Thatcher and her ministers. Any one of them towers high above any recent member of the Tory frontbench in my esteem. Just compare Chris Patton or Douglas Hurd to Dominic Raab or Priti Patel. There are many things that are great in Britain, yet its government is not one of them.

Now this is high class in its truest formidable sense!

"Another vacuum in the Brexit debate..." wonderful ad lib from M H 👏👏👏

I am not a tory never have been and never will be, however I must congratulate the last of the true great Statesmen of British Politics an honest man, with the spine to speak his mind and the truth. We need more people like him regardless of political party, will we see his like again ?

@elainecameron5545

Жыл бұрын

They were good back in the day, strong, not any longer.

@samb2052

Жыл бұрын

Whoever he or she may be, they’re not appearing in this clip. 😂

@notrut

Жыл бұрын

You seem to be unaware of Westland Helicopters being subsumed by the Italians into Leonardo-Finmeccanica ... There's only a Museum left at the UK site .... Jobs gone.

@mikemc2937

Жыл бұрын

No fully aware of the Westland debacle, also the devastation heaped upon countless communities, the poll tax, or John Knotts Navy cuts in the early 80s.Norman Lamont's disaster with the ERM Millions of people unemployed. Riots in major cities. I could go on, - Never a Tory and never will be. My comment's where directed to the Man not his party or past but he did help the regeneration of Liverpool as Minister for Merseyside. Again I repeat an honest assessment of where we have been directed by those in power. At least he is trying to dispel the mythical Emperors New Clothes being pedalled by the Brexiteers.

@ericteng7725

Жыл бұрын

Here! Here!!

The man who could once have been John Major... from the days when MP's honourably resigned if they didn't agree with something to PM did, rather than clinging on desperately and waiting to be sacked. What a shame he never got his moment to lead.

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

How could he have been John Major when he is Michael Heseltine?

@jennyd255

Жыл бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 I presume you do understand the simple concept of using "a figure of speech..." for humorous effect? and if so the meaning should be pretty obvious! IF the leadership election of the conservative party had gone only slightly differently he would have been Margaret Thatcher's successor as PM... And thus the man who would have had to negotiate at Maastricht... however as things turned out that dubious honour went to John Major.

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

@@jennyd255 No, I am too thick to understand. Thanks for enlightening me but it still isn't funny.

@jmolofsson

Жыл бұрын

@@jennyd255 I honestly don't know whether it would have made any difference. John Major was surely less unpopular among the Thatcherites. Heseltine was a bit more confrontative. But in the end, Major was also doomed. A new generation of Tory MPs was voted in, who were even more anti-European than Thatcher had been. They directed most of their frustration at the Prime Minister. Heseltine was spared.

@jennyd255

Жыл бұрын

@@jmolofsson yes that is a very good point indeed.

When said common market I agreed, but over the years it turned into an empire which is what we never signed up for

@johnsnow5264

11 ай бұрын

Yeah right, a united European powerhouse is a terrible thing. European countries divided and alone are much easier to crush and intimidate by enemies of freedom, democracy and human rights. Is that what you prefer?

Great man in relation to economic development, industrial policy and the European question. Been proven so right.

They knew exactly what they were doing... They just didn't (and still don't ) care. Stop making excuses for them.

@realhorrorshow8547

Жыл бұрын

I think another reading is closer to the truth. They _didn't_ know what they were doing _and_ they just didn't care. The entirety of this Children's Crusade has never been about knowing, it's about feeling. Sure you've got chancers like Rees-Mogg who see the opportunity to evade scrutiny and make a quid. But even for him, the primary purpose is to demonstrate his faith in the dogma. That's what we're up against that's what's most dangerous. As various historical figures are credited with saying: You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

@elizabethbrown8833

Жыл бұрын

I remember the evening I watched Boris Johnson on the news celebrating with a huge crowd of triumphant Brexiteers. The chill I felt that this was very wrong. It was inexplicable why I should experience such a dark feeling, it felt like a bad omen. Quickly after, Covid 19 hit the UK. Boris Johnson landed in hospital with it and I wondered how many others in that cheering Brexit crowd also caught Covid 19. Brexit always seemed wrong to me The EU Treaty mattered. Why would anyone want that Treaty abolished. Now we have all these National Strikers. But who can blame them when their basic Human Rights are Systematically being denied. 🌌🌎🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💔🙏

@matthewsanderson2813

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it’s a matter of not caring, I think this is going exactly how they wanted and disaster capitalists like Sunak are revelling in making their mates richer

@boahnation9932

Жыл бұрын

Why would they? Their careers flew because of it...

puts into perspective how radical the Tory party has become, it’s one economic own goal after another

@lonelyone69

Жыл бұрын

Do you not forget when thatcher literally passed legislation to crush strikers that would break the European convention of human rights 😂 they haven't changed...

@thirdeyeblind6369

Жыл бұрын

Two more years until a GE as well. Slowest suicide in political history.

@diabl2master

Жыл бұрын

Radical doesn't seem like the right word

Heseltine is 90 next month. If I reach his age I hope I'm of such sound mind and thought. He looks to be in pretty good physical shape too.

Lord Heseltine is a wistful reminder of a long-vanished Tory MP: articulate, compassionate, and thoughtful. His observations on Brexit are spot. We will miss him when he finally departs the stage.

@dexstewart2450

Жыл бұрын

Look at your High St: that's due to the Zoning Laws he had changed on behalf of the major Retailers

@JD1010101110

11 ай бұрын

Only if you are completely ignorant of history. Articulate? This is a man who resorted to threatening the opposition with the mace because he couldn't win a debate with words. compassionate? he was one of the chief architects of thatcherism which improvished millions reduced social mobility and has led to a more divided society, he is also deeply racist. and thoughtful? you think privatising the water companies was well thought through? As for Brexit he is one of the people who set the concern for Brexit with the idiotic ERM and even more moronic maastricht treaty which moved the EU from economic bloc to evolving federal state which made British exit inevitable. I imagine when he joins Thatcher in hell we'll stamp the dirt down just as we did with her, not sure there is a song celebrating that one of the flying monkeys has died though. Perhaps read a book or too on a subject before commenting, then you wouldn't appear so foolish.

Heseltine is still the business.... incredible.... even if you are not a Conservative, you have to admit the guy is phenomenal!

@truth121

Жыл бұрын

Peter, are you joking?? 🤣😂🤣

@ghengis430

Жыл бұрын

A phenomenal swine when he was in govt. We were more than relieved that he didn't become leader. It's easy to be reasonable when you're away from the scrum of greed.

@andymain9080

Жыл бұрын

I can admit that he should know all about not having a plan. The Tory Party of which he was a member had no plan for the post industrial north beyond the long since debunked myth of trickle down economics. He has since admitted that that was a major error, Great, but it doesn't put food on people's plates. It doesn't help them pay the exorbitant utility bills that are the result of another failed Tory Policy namely, attempts to impose a market on a natural monopoly.

Lord Heseltine has shown intelligence, integrity, courage and wit. I am pleased that so many people commented in his favour. I also hope that people realise the important but limited role the House of Lords plays. Being a thorn in the government’s side is what the House of Lords does with impeccable taste. The next time any political party talks about ‘reforming the House of Lords’ and removing its last remaining checks on government arrogance and over-reach, let’s remember what we might be losing.

@georgepayne9895

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely correct. I'm a 'leaver', but I respect the debate, & Heseltine's opinion. More importantly, I think those calling for the abolition - or even a radical overhaul - of the Upper Chamber should realise its true value. I'm in favour of political evolution, but caution against a 'baby & bathwater' sydrome.

@dnakatomiuk

Жыл бұрын

The issue with the HoL is that today's MPs are letting anyone in and it's getting bloated and that's the issue that's the biggest issue the UK citizens have with it. The HoL have done some good for us but the amount of bloat is the issue and when they have blocked issues that the the UK people believe they shouldn't get involved in

@georgepayne9895

Жыл бұрын

@@dnakatomiuk Good point, but like so much in politics we applaud others' involvement in issues with which we disagree, but resent it when we're in favour...but I believe that taking people who have been in politics all their lives, & putting them in a debating chamber without the restriction of the party whip, or the threat of deselection, is very valuable.

@alanhat5252

Жыл бұрын

@@dnakatomiuk you fail to understand how the House of Lords functions, in particular the fact that only those with understanding of (or wish to understand) a topic attend any particular debate so avoiding uneducated comments.

@alanhat5252

Жыл бұрын

@@georgepayne9895 many were selected to the House of Lords for their expertise & without first being politicians, Lord Bird, Lord Bilimoria, Baroness Lane-Fox & others spring immediately to mind.

How refreshing to hear his exposé and to follow him in the meandrous dedale that alas has become of the Conservative Party now.

The gulf in quality between Heseltine and the politicians of today is heartbreaking

I met and spoke with Michael Heseltine about ten years ago. He was sharp as a razor, providing advice and praise on the project I was running. He's a man with the utmost integrity - they don't make 'em like him any more.

Wow. This reminds me of the UK from a yesteryear. When thought and wisdom played a role. Oh how I pine for those days past.

@judeirwin2222

Жыл бұрын

Stop pining. Start organizing voters for the next election. And see if you can find anyone, and I mean anyone, who is fit to lead and govern from any party at all. Good luck with that!

@peterland2824

Жыл бұрын

@@judeirwin2222 Your imperative is spot on. Less nostalgia and more action. In the mean time I've to finish off with the conifers ^^. But on a serious note, now that Corbyn is perhaps back in the fray... I'm conflicted with his Brexit stance, but the rest of his agenda I quite like. What say you?

@Elaine-tk7nx

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree with you! It makes me nostalgic to hear such an erudite, sage summary of his thoughts on Brexit.

At last the voice of reason and from a Thatcherite!!😮🤯

@xhogun8578

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't a Thatcherite.

I remember him in government and he has left a legacy that we are paying for today. I think he made the world a lesser place to live.

@xhogun8578

Жыл бұрын

Oh that's a narrow minded. Blair came along and created the nanny state and laid the foundations for woke.

@marksingleton7199

Жыл бұрын

@@xhogun8578 I am not not saying he was any better but I dislike government members slapping themselves on the back for being selfish. The Falklands war was created due to cost cutting. It cost lives and alot of money. He was a very selfish business man who made at the expense of others.

Just like we didn’t know what we were doing when we voted in a Tory government

@JRattheranch

Жыл бұрын

You didn't! That's the point! Back in Michael's day, you got what you voted for.... Sadly no longer applies to any of us.

@petergaskin1811

Жыл бұрын

You haven't got a Tory Government, you have an ERG sanctioned Crypto-Fascist Crime Family running the show.

@bobjohnbowles

Жыл бұрын

The tory press (ie most of the media) saw to it as many of us as possible did not know what we were voting for.

@abdulmismail

Жыл бұрын

I did. Never voted Labour in my life (to be honest, I only ever voted strategically anyway) but at least with Corybn, he would never have allowed Labour to profiteer from the pandemic. He would never have abandoned 3.8 million self employed without furlough. He would never have allowed nurses, firefighters, police etc. to be living on shit wages. All he wanted to do was increase corporation tax to 26% from 19% - which is what the Tories have done anyway. Yet, the tabloids labelled him as a Commie. Blame the morons who believe the tabloids for this brazen Tory party. I mean, did they think that the Tories would ever only "Get Brexit done?". The whole thing was a ruse and the electorate fell for it.

@aqeel-3771

Жыл бұрын

@@abdulmismail Labour spend tax on social care etc the right way as it should and how many times are we going to suffer under Tories and this party has done more damage to this nation then anyother.

Don't worry about it. It might not ever happen. Oh that's right it already did.

I cannot believe I'm about to say this, he may be a Tory, but on this occasion he's my Tory. Heseltine: that's my boy! That is saying something from someone who hates Tories and has never voted for them. Cheers Michael!👏👏👏👏

What marks Heseltine out from most of his peers was that he _listened_ to the electorate. I remember him for the work he did in Liverpool to turn round the dereliction and decay.

@dreamdiction

Жыл бұрын

In Liverpool he succeeded in convincing the voters that they run their own country so the government could betray them today.

@BenWilcox-vl8ed

Жыл бұрын

He what??

@janvierr9906

Жыл бұрын

@@BenWilcox-vl8ed Yeah, it's pretty amazing. Look up the cabinet papers released under the 30 year rule. If it weren't for Heseltine, Thatcher's government would have put Liverpool through a "managed decline".

@versioncity1

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, I was a kid when Thatcher came in, and she was far from liked in Liverpool, but I remember Heseltine coming up to Merseyside & manchester in the early 80's and many ardent left wingers (like my dad) had a lot of respect for what he said and then followed through with.

@bluemotion14

Жыл бұрын

He had nothing to do with the funding the development of Liverpool, the money came from the EU. The Conservatives done back then what the current Conservative government is doing now and managing the server decline of the city. How can you dare give the Tory party any credit for the funding given to Liverpool by the EU for the redevelopment

Things I couldn't have imagined myself saying twenty years ago: "Heseltine gave a great speech in the Lords today."

@SB-jt2vx

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Strange days indeed.

@apathyintheuk265

Жыл бұрын

Was it that 'great' tho? Time on your hands to pick through the historical mistakes of others..... Oh, Alf, 2-0 up against the Germans and you take off the attacking potency of Bobby Charlton for the defensive midfield rigidity of Colin Bell. What could go wrong?

@mywestsussex5749

Жыл бұрын

That's because you are a remainer

@SB-jt2vx

Жыл бұрын

@@mywestsussex5749 Thank goodness for that.

@johnlocke6506

Жыл бұрын

Probably because he didn't.

Our children will read in their history books" HOW THE UK WAS CONNED"

Never ever voted for him or his party but I wholeheartedly agree with his comments and will gladly continue to support him in his efforts to reveal the nonsense that is Brexit

Never in my life did I think I would ever say this...... "Well said Mr Heseltine 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏, well said.

He's is a great man. Very good minister in his time and ofcourse what he has just said is 100% accurate.

A proper statesman. How the tories could do with people like him

@davidspear9790

Жыл бұрын

They certainly could do with his sort right now, but choose not to.....

When were British self Interests in Europe dominant before Brexit? Must've missed that memo.

Unfortunately, like everything, the term "worse" has been horribly devalued by the current government. Back in the 80's, governments REALLY one how to be worst.

most brexit voters wouldn't even get the robespierre reference

@DropdudeJohn

Жыл бұрын

Did Robespierre capitalise his sentences and his name, just a question from somebody who voted for Brexit

@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347

Жыл бұрын

@@DropdudeJohn Fair enough but no full stop! 😁😉

@DropdudeJohn

Жыл бұрын

@@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 .

@Bolachas25

Жыл бұрын

@@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 No question mark either…😂

@matthewrice3432

Жыл бұрын

@@Bolachas25 👍🤣🤣🤣

Most politicians will refuse to let their opponent to get a word in edgeways in order to win the argument. Heseltine wiped the floor with his detractor by giving him free rein to say what he had to say and nothing got said. Heseltine was, and still is, a genius of politics and the last remnant of a time when this country was led by giants and people of principle.

@mflehman6880

Жыл бұрын

No one laughed, but I liked the "vacuum" remark. The Anglosphere - US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand - has quickly gone to shit, with our Mother country in the lead. People like Heseltine who were competent and cared about their country disappeared from politics. We went from Roosevelts and Churchills to Johnsons and Wilsons to Reagans and Thatchers to Trumps and whoever is PM of the UK this month. Clowns and crooks.

@mjsproat

Жыл бұрын

This is the House of Lords usual style. It is the Commons that is the jeering bear pit.

@geoffteece265

10 ай бұрын

Hear hear

What an incredible speech.....one for the ages. Helsetine has always been on the right side of history.

@petergaskin1811

Жыл бұрын

Not quite. But now, maybe.

@jeremybunn8473

11 ай бұрын

Whereas Johnson & Co will go down in history as the ' inadequates' without a plan, who cynically drove this country into the ground for nothing more than self gain.

Why is this man one of the few that knows what was happening? I love this man❤❤❤❤❤❤

I have never supported the Tory party, but this man has always been brilliant!

Could you imagine for one moment the likes of Heseltine or Clarke ditching their principles just to become PM which is exactly what May, Johnson and Truss did.

@Sobchak2

Жыл бұрын

May, Johnson and Truss had no principles.

@matchbox555

Жыл бұрын

I would leave May off that list, but the other 2 are less than worthless.

@RobertJonesWightpaint

Жыл бұрын

An important point, because no - I just cannot imagine either Heseltine or Clarke compromising their most basic principles for office. Indeed, Heseltine resigned on principle - Clarke never disguised his core beliefs - Lord Carrington took the rap over the Falklands - an earlier Tory MP whose name I've unfortunately forgotten resigned over an error for which no one would resign today. That generation believed in high standards in public life: didn't need a Lord Nolan to spell out what should have been obvious (not that Nolan's expected standards of conduct in public life have been observed); current Tories seem to think that principles are old hat, out of date, naive - there may be exceptions - but if there are, they're very hard to find.

@ironmantooltime

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I think that only applies to Johnson. The other two are just idiots.

@MrDaiseymay

Жыл бұрын

@@Sobchak2 just 4 traitors

Funny I remember listening to thatcher back in the 198es about the eu membership I think looking back now how right she was how it would turn out

@scarletoharabia3801

Жыл бұрын

She was bang on!

This was what politicians sounded like before the dark times... before idiocracy.

@ericteng7725

Жыл бұрын

The idiots were there even in those times. They were everywhere, alongside him and all around him. But he cut through them all!!!

@alanhat5252

Жыл бұрын

@@ericteng7725 people used to understand that idiots are idiotic & just ignored them.

@ericteng7725

Жыл бұрын

@Alan hat that's under ideal situations but we are talking about heady times the n. You just cannot imagine the twits running around calling themselves politicians those days . And believe you me, it was hard to ignore or ostracise the m.

@rogerdavis5142

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Before Murdoch Rupertised them all!

@StevenStrauchC

Жыл бұрын

People like him are what helped create this idiocracy world we live in in the first place. These scumbags fought hard to make regular people pay through their nose to live, get an education, and do anything worthwhile in life. Only the rich, or those willing to indebt themselves with no way out for the rest of their life, can get a university education nowdays, thanks to people like him and the witch he used to work for.

No one objects to a common market, but what we do object to is the loss of sovereignty and the creation of a federal superstate.

@davidevans916

Жыл бұрын

Man alive you’re still buying that crap 😂

@ 0:32 “Margaret, not a natural supporter of foreigners” 😅😅

@Original50

Жыл бұрын

She wasn't completely keen on the majority of the UK population at the time either 🙄

That’s the thing with Tories, they hate everyone, even themselves.

@jimmymac4778

Жыл бұрын

David Eastwood 😂😂😂

@phillydavison

Жыл бұрын

All they care about is lining their own pockets and those of their donors.

@fredatlas4396

Жыл бұрын

@@phillydavison absolutely, you are 100% correct. And that's just one reason I have never voted for the con party in my entire life

@aqeel-3771

Жыл бұрын

what pi**es me off is that she sold british businesses abroad and made good working people ( with businesses ) into working class people. Edit- they also hate NHS dont forget that.

@trucker4567

Жыл бұрын

Are you saying that liebour don't have any infighting? And what do you think about starmer saying that he will put black voters before White voters, do you agree with him?

A master of his craft. Tarzan at his best entertaining the Lords. Bless em all.

They knew what they were doing. They have lined their pockets as expected without giving a damn about British people they proposed they cared about.

Couldn’t agree more. I often wonder what would have happened if he became PM. Talks a lot of sense. Keep going MH.

Edited 10th Feb. For the first time in my life, and I have spoken with him in the past, I find myself in total agreement with Michael Heseltine. BTW Tarzan, it was Louis 16th not 14th who lost his head to Madame la Guillotine.

@truth121

Жыл бұрын

Daddy FABIAN

@genome616

Жыл бұрын

Let's not mention his nice earnings he gets from the EU as a hasbeen politician, he can't be biased can he?

@jgreen2015

Жыл бұрын

Just to clarify... Pro-eu has ALWAYS been a right wing position. Being anti-eu has ALWAYS been a left wing position I do not understand how and why that suddenly flipped when the referendum was called. I do not understand how and why labor voters can claim to be left wing when they voted in alignment with thatcher and Cameron who both campaigned in favour of the EU in their respective states in their respective referendums

@officialsimonharris

Жыл бұрын

@@genome616 are you a has been or a hasn't been?

@Demun1649

Жыл бұрын

@@officialsimonharris Clearly a has NEVER BEEN

Thank you for comment you are so RIGHT SIR BUT QUESTION THEY CAN UNDERSTAND YOU ?BLESS YOU

I’ve never heard a Tory talk so much sense

@polliebain7450

Жыл бұрын

And not likely again in our lifetime..😒

@EU.Escapee

Жыл бұрын

Utter self-indulgent twaddle.

@brianmuirhead4800

Жыл бұрын

Never heard a communist speak any sense

@MrDaiseymay

Жыл бұрын

Get your dictionary out, and dust it off.

@sharonwashington8150

Жыл бұрын

Are your your ears blocked.lol

Well said Michael, a Tory talking sense & from the heart!👏Never thought I would be saying that!

Everyone of them a drain on our resources. Needs reform. 🇬🇧👍

Like all politicians, they were advancing their self-interest.

Mr Heseltine should always be listened to,A very intelligent and worldly chap .

@smokeango

Жыл бұрын

Only idiots think he deserves to be listened to. He talks for all the remainers who will lap up his words of wisdom. He was one of the instigators of the great EU experiment. A flawed concept that forced a country to join an organisation without the approval of UK citizens.

@stevehall5299

Жыл бұрын

@@smokeango well I am on his side then,and we aren't as stupid as we might appear

@smokeango

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehall5299 the fact that you don't even know why, worries me, and confirms my opinion that people are like sheep. Easily led.

I never thought in a million years I would agree with Hesletine. What is the world coming too 😂

How articulate and concise is he, even at his grand old age. And he didn't need a piece of paper to read his whole speech from. These are the people who created the single market in the midst of the Cold War. How degraded European politics has become in the West!

@pssolutede

Жыл бұрын

Not only in the west, though. Have you heard e.g. Polish or Hungarian politicians lately?

You’re a good man lord hesletine u talk absolute sense brexit is dead

It shows something that Lord Heseltine commands respect on all benches (not everyone agrees with him but they still respect). It is only the government's representative in the house that wanted him to give way.

@radman8321

Жыл бұрын

And he graciously did even though the muppet had nothing to say.

@adventtrooper

Жыл бұрын

@@radman8321 A demonstration of his oratory skills that he was able to hold the audience despite the interruption.

Gosh. This guy is in such a good shape after all these years. I thought most of them have died. It was early 80's when Thatcher was in power.

@hypsyzygy506

Жыл бұрын

He'll be 90 on the 21st March 2023.