Former Drug Smuggler Roger Reaves | PBD Podcast | EP 152
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PBD Podcast Episode 152. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick and Roger Reaves.
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About:
William Roger Reaves is an American pilot who was one of the most prolific drug smugglers in history. He worked for Pablo Escobar and the Medellín Cartel. Reaves employed Barry Seal as a pilot in many of his drug-smuggling operations. In his memoir, Smuggler (2016), Reaves claims that Seal paid millions in bribes to the Clintons when Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas in order to land planes carrying cocaine at Mena, Arkansas.
About Co-Host:
Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived a true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: • $O$CAST
Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: booking@valuetainment.com
0:00 - Start
1:50 - How Roger Reeves got into drug smuggling
12:00 - The time Roger almost got caught
18:00 - First time Roger got arrested
20:00 - How Roger is such a likeable guy
22:00 - Did the jail time turn him off/Why does he keep coming back
25:00 - Roger's connection to Barry Seal
31:00 - Middle man/The Big Phone Call
36:00 - Why did his wife not stop/the money/what keeps him coming back
38:00 - Roger's connections to Pablo/Ochoa
45:00 - Barry Seal
48:00 - How Roger got caught in the USA
49:00 - Barry connections to USA/CIA- Who killed Barry
53:00 - Run-ins with the mob
55:00 - Time with Pablo & Ochoa
59:00 - PBD's interview's with 'criminals'
1:04:35 - Relationship with Pablo
1:11:00 - Death penalty/Half of men don’t deserve to be locked up
1:18:00 - The power of a father
1:29:00 - Does he have any regrets
1:35:00 - Toughest questions his kids asked him
Пікірлер: 631
BRING HIM BACK!!! PART 2 & 3 IS A MUST! GREAT EPISODE. I can listen to him speak ALL DAY LONG.
@Bryan-vw1xj
2 жыл бұрын
That’s the first thing I thought when it was over! Pat needs to bring him back on!
@martin8829
2 жыл бұрын
Check out lex Friedmans interview with him
@artg2909
2 жыл бұрын
@@martin8829 thanks I sure will.
@tristanstahl2192
2 жыл бұрын
Deadass
@woody816
2 жыл бұрын
@@martin8829 that's the best one
I was in jail with this man in West Australia andnwe share the same last name worked in the same workshop in Casuarina Prison in the print shop. He was such a gentleman. I feel privileged to have met and conversated with this great man
Roger flew me from Mexico to Bastrop Texas back in 1972. I won't go into details but this man saved my life. I always wondered what happened to him. Glad to see he's still alive and doing well.
@juicy4joey
Жыл бұрын
you cant say that without any context! you think whatever it is people will come after you 50 years later come on plz tell your story
@OwnLaneTre
Жыл бұрын
@@juicy4joey it probably hurts him to speak on it in detail
@kick_then_shift
Жыл бұрын
Are you part of the family that he smuggled into the country? I feel like they were from Colombia tho...
@Chris-ei7sh
Жыл бұрын
Let’s hear the story?!?!?
@williamrae9954
Жыл бұрын
Going loco,were we,ha ha?
Now THIS is a podcast. Completely hooked from the moment Roger started talking.
@artg2909
2 жыл бұрын
Me 2!!
@chriswalker9218
2 жыл бұрын
Go listen to his Lex Friedman interview. It's 2.5 hours long and absolutely amazing!! Lex let's him talk the entire time!
@tavaresmccree5005
2 жыл бұрын
That GA accent
@jayemeljay2117
Жыл бұрын
Too bad the other two need to step it up... They should be a lot more respectful..making jokes about someone been tortured.. These two immature wannabe Rogans would have died as soon as they saw that hotpepper
@ruddawg5802
Жыл бұрын
Touché
RR is a classy man!! He stood-up all 33 yrs.. THAT SPEAKS VOLUME!!
Powerful quote “a bird doesn’t have the child before it prepares a nest.” Very true. There are many with no guidance or role model to guide them for this. Christ prepares a home before we enter heaven, he prepared himself for the cross before we may have penance, he prepared a plan before the world was made. We need to teach responsibility and consequences.
@solaar11
2 жыл бұрын
Just saw the end, that was my idea, make the petty crime criminals into tradesmen, carpenters, etc. they should move cities never to return their old neighborhood to avoid the crowd that brought them down too.
@justintrotter4186
2 жыл бұрын
#youSirrr #RGenius #GodBeGlorified #AllDay #AirnyDay
@SalsaMon45
2 жыл бұрын
The lion must pee and secure his land before he can mate. Natural law
@istovall2624
2 жыл бұрын
I couldnt stop thinking of this quote either
@petergiffin1270
2 жыл бұрын
Religious people can't see anything without putting a god somehow. Lol
The father part really touched me man, I grew up with out a father figure and shit….. it’s an important part of life that a lot of us miss out on.
@mr.makedonija2627
Жыл бұрын
Boys NEED their fathers. I wish I had one
@sam-the-man8500
2 ай бұрын
YOU HAVE HIM IN YOUR SPRIT,HIS NAME IS GOD THE FATHER 🙏. THE FATHER,SON,AND HOLY SPIRIT MAKE YOU A MAN AS WHOLE💪🙏
This gentleman is the kind you’d enjoy sitting and chatting with everyday after work and every weekend
You have to bring Roger back for part 2 & 3 !!! Awesome interview with over the top stories!!!
@dkelly387z
2 ай бұрын
💯 This!!!!
I really thank all of yous 💯 this means a lot to me tuning in from Ontario 🇨🇦
01:13:06 'These teeth are not my own...I left THEM in a man's neck...' Why? 'He was winning.' lol
Wow wow!!! What an interview with this gentleman Roger Reaves. That goes to show you the mercy of God its never too late to turn your life around no matter what you have done and no matter how old you are. I'm listening to Roger and its like he was directing a movie straight out of Hollywood. God Bless you Roger and Thank you PBD for such awesome interviews you have done. Please bring back to finish the 90% of his story lol.😀😉👍👍
7 minutes in and i love this guy lol he's awesome
This man, is a man's man. Genius on prison reform on teaching a trade. Blessings.
I could listen to Old School's stories for days and never get bored!
I could listen to this man talk all day
Lead • Respect • Improve • Love
Protect Reaves at all cost in this world such fascinating man really show how complex Life is and still he holds a big heart and smile ❤❤
Ole Roger..this dude was born to be an OutLaw..what a character..could you just imagine him being your Grandpa even?!
Ive been listening to podcast from day 1 but this episode is in the top 5. Daaammnnn I could listen to his stories whole day.. It’s even the first time that pat en Adam barely asked questions bc of his stories..
I like Rogers idea of Prison Reform. When I did my prison time I spent every day working on myself. Spiritually, Mentally, Physically. Studying, Working out and figuring out who I was, and where I wanted to go. I refused to allow the state to take this time from me, and instead used it to work on myself.
Netflix I can see making a series on this man God bless him 👏🏼
1:23:15 - I fired my parents. For gross negligence. When I realised that nothing I did would ever be good enough for them, life began. Now, I focus on pleasing Yehovah and I'm pretty sure I'm on the right path.
I’m reading his book Smuggler right now, it’s fantastic. Highly recommend.
I grew up in Baton Rouge during this time , Barry was highly regarded in the community. “ Double Crossed “ is a much more accurate account of the Barry Seal story played by Dennis Hopper. It was an older HBO film I believe.
He tells you what happened along his journeys but doesn't tell you about the journey itself. Smart man! He's extremely Disciplined in the mind
This is the podcast that got me listening to PBD podcast. Good stuff.
This is more entertaining than watching a movie. This might be my favorite episode.
Perfectly pronouncing Spanish words with a thick Georgian accent. Roger is 💯
Man getting ride motorcycles with Pablo is crazy 🔥🔥🔥
One of the best episodes on PBD. Amazing story. I couldn’t stop listening.
@kick_then_shift
Жыл бұрын
Was one of the worst really Patrick was rushing him through the entire thing. This man's story's are fsr better then what you got here.
@joelbest5491
Жыл бұрын
@@kick_then_shift Shawn Ryan just interviewed him on his show. It was better
@kick_then_shift
Жыл бұрын
@@joelbest5491 I've seen it. Best thing about Shawn is he's not scared to sit down and do a 6 hour interview. He doesn't rush his guests let's them tell their story how they want to tell it.
As I was listening I thought this guy is awesome! And just a treat to listen to. Then saw the comments and probably the most liked ever!
Roger reeves is just a legit good guy and he always paints everyone in an honest light, other people just want to make everyone seem like monsters.
@jackhalas9493
Жыл бұрын
He's got class & he doesn't speak poorly of others. Good traits in that life.
@jessejones3075
Жыл бұрын
He's a monster 👻 👽. U see a baby 👶 get eaten by mountain 🦁. That don't effect your humanity. Yep u are of Satan. And he say he's a Christian ✝️ 🙄. I must say Yahweh spare his life. He should be telling people about YAH MERCY 🥺. TELLING PEOPLE TO REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED IN JESUS CHRIST. ACTS 2:38
@closer20jc
Жыл бұрын
@Jesse Jones and this is why people are always so annoyed by Christians.
THIS IS WHY THIS IS THE BEST SHOW OUT THERE I DIDNT THINK IT WOULD BE THIS GOOD BUT WOW THIS COULD BE THE BEST SHOW YOU GUYS HAVE DONE YET KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!
@martin8829
2 жыл бұрын
Check out lex Friedmans interview it’s better. The problem with Patrick is he knows all the facts all the story’s and pushes people keeps interrupting he might as well sit there by him self and tell the story completely unnatural
Please have Roger back! He’s a very interesting person.
My favourite PBD podcast so far....amazing!
Thank you! Mr Reaves is such a wonderful guest!
Terrific interview with such an interesting American ! Loved it ! What a hell of an adventure! How can one not like/love Roger ? Bring him back ! Make a better movie than American Made about Rogers life and it will be a smash hit ! Cheers guys and Roger ….!
Just popped in to say I miss the old style of podcast, I never missed an episode. Now I only watch when there is a guest that interests me, which is very rare.
@MaryOKC
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Smugglers, murders, cartel, CIA …
@JET13B
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Used to look forward to every podcast with the old crew in the garage, debating and discussing. This will be the first PBD podcast I’ll watch in months, only because of the guest.
@TheArbz
2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. The old crew was awesome.
@chriswalker9218
2 жыл бұрын
This should have been an old Valuetainment episode like Sammy The Bull. Rodgers interview on the Lex Friedman podcast is 100% better. Lex let's him talk to 2.5 hours straight without interrupting him.
@life.is.miraculous1175
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I miss that cozy huddled feel of the old studio.
What a interview,PBD you WOW,the smuggler absolute LEGEND...
This exactly why i love PBD. What an absolutely phenomenal story.
Pat has a funny sense of humor, liked the part where he asked the guest if he ever tried to introduce Jesus to Pablo Escobar...LOL
I have watched other interviews of this man! Great man! I have a similarish/issshh story myself. Thank god it didn’t pan out the way things ended..!! Bless this man!!!
Seriously this is the BEST interview I've seen from PBD 💯♥️
Dude should have his own podcast
Best episode ever!!! I could listen to him all day. Fascinating stories!! You should bring him back and just let him tell more of things that happened to him for 2 or 3 hours.
Once again another AMAZING podcast thank you so much , I particularly liked when he said family planning is important , “a bird builds a nest before laying a egg but humans don’t do the same”
DEFINITELY NEED MORE EPISODES WITH THIS LEGEND
Obsessed! Amazing story telling with a smooth and silky voice.
This guy is just incredible. Hits me in the heart every time I hear him tell his story.
What a story is an understatement!
Roger is the definition of Integrity 🏆
This guy needs his own show! Wow, what a cool dude!
I could listen to him tell stories for a week! Great podcast PBD.
It’s usually a 2 hour show. We want the full 2 hours minimum
What a powerful interview !!! Love it
Great podCast i wish it was longer i seen Roger on a podcast of Lex Fridmans it went longer and had more details anyway great one i love this guy
Patrick you are the best interviewer and , always have a message in your podcast.. Thank You
11;19 he caught himself about to say a name and send “Pedro” instead 😂😂🐐
An interview with Carlos Lehder would be sick!!!! He was released from prison last year
@joeysausage3437
2 жыл бұрын
Fire useless adam.
@anewdayali2538
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the stories he would tell if he could still remember them
@154g
Жыл бұрын
Yea thats what were missing
What Roger said about prison reform sounds spot on. If we want prisoners to be productive citizens, we need to give them the tools to do it (instead of the revolving door “for profit” system we have now). Excellent podcast!
@Robert06087
Жыл бұрын
unfortunately I dont think it will ever change , just like curing cancer - too much $$$ to be made.
@te2952
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Roger had all kinds of different trades and made a decent living, BUT he decided to go full time smuggling drugs, and it didn't keep him out of jail or prison. Roger himself returned many times, so it didn't work.
This should of been a 3 hour podcast... 💯
Great podcast. The two men asking Roger questions was spot on as I am trying to understand why he would do it. Roger says prisoners should learn a trade, BUT Roger had different trades. Pilot, fireman, sold antiques, and etc. All those trades didn't keep Roger from smuggling cocaine, and returning to prison numerous times. Why? It didn't keep him from going back. Roger had a lot of different trades that other prisoners don't have, but it didn't work with Roger, now did it? I noticed the two men were trying to understand the same thing that I was trying to understand. Roger acts like smuggling cocaine is okay, and making millions is what mattered to him. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Roger talks like he is a nice christian family man, thinks he is a great parent, and never taking responsibility that he smuggled drugs that could hurt families, parents, or other children that destroys others lives. The story of the lion eating the baby didn't seem to phase Roger. To me it is strange, and something is way off about him. I do hope he has changed his life around, and helps others understand it's not ok to do that kind of work no matter how good the money is for doing it. Yes his story is facinating, but it was wrong what he did, and he is asked 3 times, but he skirted around it. I do hope Roger has changed his ways, and I do wish him well.
Bring him back! We definitely have a lot more to talk about
@chriswalker9218
2 жыл бұрын
Go listen to his Lex Friedman interview. 2.5 hours of non stop uninterrupted stories by Rodger.
@Flytrev
Жыл бұрын
I will! thank you
He really is a great story teller. Wish I had that ability, I could’ve listened to him for another 2 or 3 hours more.
@AdamSchelenbergCom
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's not a great story teller. Maybe he has great stories to tell?
@jeffmiller3499
2 жыл бұрын
He's on lex friedmans podcast. I encourage everyone to listen. His wife joins at the end and is just as described 💚 & if you enjoy and appreciate people like Roger you would love lex. Very unique person. A genius MIT scientist that believes in love and compassion above all else.
@Kekou735
2 жыл бұрын
Stop wishing and start doing! I’m actively reading about and applying good storytelling techniques. There’s a lot of content on the subject.
@mrmattstiltner
2 жыл бұрын
He does the narration on the audiobook format, and that alone, is all I needed to know.
@Trav81888
Жыл бұрын
It’s hard to be a bad story when it’s your own. can’t fuck it up that bad. his ability to paint a picture is on another level.
Most incredible INTERVIEW I have ever heard… I wish I could meet Roger… We have much in common and KNOW the GRACE of God.
This is amazing. I want to see this guy live.
This was a good interview choice Pat! Really enjoyed his story
She got to love the way Rodger tell us a story, he'll go into details about a plane and then " there was a mountain lion eating hey baby" just as casual as if he was talking about lawn
Holy shit! What a life this guy has lived. Riveting stories, that almost seem like a movie. Great podcast. Crazy stuff.
Please bring him back I listened to this one 4 months later… Wow what a story. I never know Barry Seal worked for somebody. When I’ve herd Barry’s story it was always told as it he was a lone operator.
LOVE this conversation. So interesting. Love your views on fatherhood and parenting. Please have Roger back. He’s the coolest.
I agree with the parenting things , especially for those who didn’t have good fathers and are trying to be good fathers but are starting from 0 because they never experienced it , now that does not mean a father that didn’t have a father can only be a good father with help but it does having the help/advice it helps a lot
Man,i can't remember when i enjoyed so much listening podcast. Great job Patrick, amazing guest and great questions. 👌👌👏
"A mountain lion ate the baby. Nothing left but a head and some diapers." I swear when he says it, there could be someone baking oatmeal cookies while it's happening.
My brother was in Perth jail with him in Australia. Got his book...epic tail. Super sweet dude.
We went from Roger telling a crazy story to Pat getting emotional talking about how important it is to raise kid for a 10 minute rant.
@cryptosammy
2 жыл бұрын
He loves listening to himself talk
@te2952
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Roger's story is fascinating, but they were trying to get to the root of why Roger kept going back to jail & prison himself when he had all kinds of trades to make a living. Unlike a lot of prisoners. Roger makes the suggestion at the end, but his answer is off. Roger had a private pilot license, he was a fireman, did contstruction work, and sold antiques on the side. Roger started just made a choice to do it full time smuggling cocaine. Why? It doesn't make sense, his trades didn't keep him out of prison and he went 20 something times. Think about it. Roger doesn't make sense. Something isn't right about it.They were trying to understand the reason just like myself. Something made him keep doing it, maybe it could just be he got greedy and loved money way too much
Roger needs to be a repeat guest on the show. Fly him back
This one was super dope! I have no money, so I’ll try to smuggle his book somewhere. But YNFM bought 2 versions❤❤
Awesome interview !
Please bring him back! Amazing man
We live in the most best times to see these interviews
Nate Saint was my hero at 7years old…. I read “Jungle Pilot” and latter started a Missionary Aviation School at Piedmont Bible College… I trained MANY MISSIONARY AVIATION FELLOWSHIP Pilots. I enjoyed this interview so much… I have kin folks in South Georgia
Absolutely riveting interview! Fantastic show guys!!!
amazing storyteller who needs to watch a movie! man I love good stories.
Roger is awesome his interview on the Lex Friedman was amazing. More of his story without dumb questions
@alice5515
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Jesus Christ Pablo Escobar is the least interesting thing about his life but seems PBD was just on that or asking him questions he’d just answered 5 minutes earlier
@woody816
2 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely terrible. Roger as always is a very polite and respectful man. They don't have a clue
What a guy this guy.
I gotta get the book!!! Good one Pat
This one is great!
His story/book are going to be a BANGER series on Netflix. Looking forward to it! #RangeMediaPartners
Absolutely love what you're doing Patrick keep up the good work.👍
Wow what an interview! The mountain lion story was off the rails, but still an excellent interview. Fantastic job @valuetainment team thank you👊🏻😉👊🏻
@martin8829
2 жыл бұрын
Check out lex Friedmans interview with roger and also tom segura and Steve Murphy
Can’t wait for the series
Yes Biggie did say never get high on your own supply, but that was 1997. It was stated in movie Scarface in 1982.
@TheArbz
2 жыл бұрын
That's so true
Trying to fix the product after it's been broken for 18 years. I felt that so much man. It's exhausting 😪
Imagine having this level of thrill-seeking and rugged doggedness against all odds. It's stubborn country boys like this why some used to say, "One rebel soldier could whip ten Yankees.".
@solaar11
2 жыл бұрын
Haha he is stubborn
@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t glorify this jackass. You should se the legacy of Escobar on the city of Medellin. I have never seen so many child prostitutes, kids sniffing glue, broken people, crazed maniacs so high they charge at you, for no reason, it is unreal. This guy should be ashamed of himself.
@johnfiftos7953
2 жыл бұрын
Times have changed. It's a suicide mission now make no mistakes
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
...Unless those Yankees were Grant or Sherman, in which case, the slave-holding Southerners would fall dead by the wagon-load, or, more likely, they'd relinquish their rifles...like the bigoted cowards they were. Stonewall Jackson was a coward.
@BST-lm4po
2 жыл бұрын
You don't think there's country boys up North? You Southern boys need to get outside the ten mile radius that you grew up in! I've lived in Texas and Georgia and they've got nothing on Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania ! There's more deer hunters per capita in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin than any state in the country!
Hey Pat as a fan of your show; Where’s our buddy Gerard???
@joeysausage3437
2 жыл бұрын
He exposed adam. pat did not like it.
What am I missing? This man has surely caused heartbreak and thousands of lives to be lost due to his activities flying guns and drugs across borders etc. His story is fascinating and he tells it well but shows no sign of regret for the resultant havoc and has become a living hero, please tell me where I have gone wrong.
I love and respect this man a lot. He's just so pleasant and thoughtful. If you liked this interview I encourage you to listen to him on lex Friedman, it's a bit longer and more in depth. Plus, his wife joins towards the end, & she's just as he described her. I wish there to be more people like them.
@donatta1857
2 жыл бұрын
That particular episode is a must for a long distant driving.
@anthonylewis1980
Жыл бұрын
Love and respect a former drug smuggler???
This is a guy I would want to meet at a bar while all my boring friends and girlfriend left while I’m there listening to every detail