I used to care about building relationships at work... now I don't. I would rather just get my job done and spend time with my family.

@pindapoy1596

24 күн бұрын

@dakings1213 Animals are usually of a social kind; more advanced animals are not or so it seems that you are saying.

@sirennoir258

24 күн бұрын

I build work relationships at work. They are just as shallow as they are online. I still only talk about pets, kids and the weather.

@__M738

24 күн бұрын

Yep and you are the majority and elites hate it

@Chris-dc6pu

24 күн бұрын

90% of conversations at work are gossiping about other employees anyway. You're not missing anything.

@AmpersAndAI

24 күн бұрын

@@pindapoy1596 "more advanced animals are not or so it seems that you are saying." What an astute observation. Honestly it grates my nerves whenever braindead atheists repeat this silly trope about humans being "social animals". Whoever came up with it was clearly an atheist and disturbingly insecure.

If work at home didn’t exist , I wouldn’t have time to watch this show

@Leadeshipcoach

24 күн бұрын

🤣👍

@ben-taobeneton3945

24 күн бұрын

That's such a W point, holy! You have no idea of how much information, news and content I miss everyday I have to work from office. Holy, I have to do a catching up session for 2 days straight afterwards.

@lovemoves3312

24 күн бұрын

🤣🤣😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣

@lonestarrk9308

24 күн бұрын

Facts. I work hybrid. I just spent all morning in an office and I’ll spend the rest of my day on the couch watching KZread. Unless an issue comes up I have to leave the house for.

@thatfunnykekguy6377

24 күн бұрын

And you would be twice as productive. Yeah we know.

These people are so disconnected to what actually happens in an office. No ones trying to commute an hour just to put your headphones in and work on excel sheets. Also the not work from home people also appreciate it as well. I promise you all those truck drivers don’t want us all one the road again commuting and taking up space on the road.

@dashphonemail

23 күн бұрын

You mean you don't go around high-fiving your coworkers when they make a sale?!

@blairl6304

23 күн бұрын

If your job is that easy, the company is making a huge mistake by not already firing you. You’re lazy, unmotivated, and undisciplined. That’s fine, just don’t complain about being a loser.

@grygaming5519

22 күн бұрын

@@blairl6304 Spending half the day to do "trust falls" instead of actually working or some group activity is wasted. Ive been in some places where every week starts with a meeting only to hear the same BS day in and day out. In my head I keep thinking "I can do x of this then spend time here" So I did an experiment....stopped going, instantly my numbers went up but my boss disliked the fact I was not a "team player" even though I was outproducing my team.

@Luvothrsmor22

22 күн бұрын

You’re 100% correct!

@Oyuki-Mayonesa

18 күн бұрын

Yep. In my office we don’t even know each-other other than our work ethic and frankly, it’s better this way. We never have any drama in our office. The days i get to work from home i’m more productive on the job and a better mom because the 2 hours i would have spent in traffic are better spent cleaning and making a healthy dinner for my family and preparing lunches for the next day.

Its morally wrong to not try and eliminate as much commuting as possible, from both environmental and safety aspects.

@Luvothrsmor22

22 күн бұрын

Thankyou!!

a moral issue? seriously?

@myyt943

24 күн бұрын

Its because they have nothing else and people aren't buying the BS narratives they put out otherwise, so they are trying to play to what normal people have that they don't--morals.

@sailirish7

24 күн бұрын

Capital is mad that their fancy real estate's value is dropping like a rock.

@aries8910

24 күн бұрын

@@sailirish7Oooof that is the real take tho 🔥

@elizaleroux9173

24 күн бұрын

Definitely.. the butcher, Baker and candlestick makers CAN'T work from home..so you are BETTER than them? Yet YOU need them.

@browndapoet

24 күн бұрын

Thank you!!!!!!

These guys are Elon fanboys. Nothing wrong with working from home if the work can be done from there. Saves the business money

@commonrare132

24 күн бұрын

Kiss your masters boots more! Jeez, worried about saving the company money? That's like a slave worried their masters arm might get tired from using the whip

@marknrogers

24 күн бұрын

The office is a more productive, cohesive environment. Depends on the job but with most this is true.

@pindapoy1596

24 күн бұрын

@financialtruthacademy9052 I am a plumber working from home and my business saves a lot of money

@gjw1wj721

24 күн бұрын

@@marknrogers Absolutely BS

@joshuastoughton1693

24 күн бұрын

@@marknrogers This is nonsense. People have been working or taking classes at home/online for years, even decades. I dont need to be your desk neighbor and smell your BO in order to be productive, effective, and coordinated with my team. Working at home also saves time and costs, like gas or property fees. The real problem here is real estate values will plummet if companies stop using offices, and corporate buildings. I find working at home is also more productive. People tend to work earlier, or later hours because they are already home. In the office, I get out at 5, period, no exceptions, I am going home. But working from home, I dont mind staying online till 6-7 to finish a job, and likewise I tend to start my day earlier because I dont have to travel into work.

Firing 15k of his employees wasnt “morally wrong” tho ?

@bigsteed007

24 күн бұрын

It would be immoral to keep people that were not needed and just leeching off the company. He didn’t just fire people for the sake of firing people.

@dreamsellers5131

24 күн бұрын

@@bigsteed007 RIIIIIIIIGHTTTTT …. Same people he made move from California to Texas to keep their jobs lol .. yea ok thats a evil money driven mf .. i hope tesla fails

@elizaleroux9173

24 күн бұрын

Did they work?

@Robert-fx3ng

24 күн бұрын

@@bigsteed007would you kick one of your young children out of the home to help balance the family budget? They loved to save the workers are family, than treat them like family. Better that everyone should work a few less hours each week than layoffs 15k. This isn’t some fantasy, there actually are companies that think it is better that everyone should suffer a little than a few should be sacrificed.

@ricomajestic

24 күн бұрын

​@@bigsteed007 It is immmoral when he's asking for a raise of 53 billion dollars.

So it’s mortally wrong if I think it’s silly to drive 45 minutes to work just to sit at a desk and call people over in London? Ok, go on. SMH

@jackbits6397

24 күн бұрын

Any time a business person uses the morality as an argument makes me guffaw. I'm hybrid and my wife is 100% wfh as an exec and is nationally recognized for her excellence...so

@arnoldziffel4943

24 күн бұрын

@@jackbits6397 Yeah the same people talking about morals are the ones who forced this on us a few years ago. And that’s if we weren’t fired for refusing to play along. I have some choice words for anyone who wants to speak down to me about morals.

@ThomasBrenton-pk8gg

24 күн бұрын

Apparently living at work is not morally wrong in his eyes 🤷🏻‍♂️

@JxBx80

24 күн бұрын

Hopefully everyone gives this video a nice thumbs down

@coutureleotards

23 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

He can suck it. I'm much more productive working from home. Saves gas. Saves time. Saves hassle.

@pindapoy1596

24 күн бұрын

@AnnSisuLiv You will get VERY fat eventually.

@funkspinna

24 күн бұрын

At least you admit it's for your personal gain with no regard for the work team.

@joshuastoughton1693

24 күн бұрын

@@funkspinna And people like you pretend working next to people improves productivity. Nowadays people work together all around the globe, so making them go to the office, to then go to an online meeting is redundant. Also, unless youre old, the youth have no problem being productive, and getting to know each other via internet devices. I dont need to smell your bad breath to effectively communicate and work through text or video calls. I dont need to work next to you, or go on lunch dates to be an effective team player. I dont know you, and I dont care to know you, just do the job, and do the job well. People work from home. People take classes at home. You dont need an office space, and a massive property fees to produce effective working teams. The only people who dont want to work at home are, 1. Bosses who want to keep their workers in a confined space to monitor their behavior, and 2. The lazy workers who cant pretend to be working and slacking off if theyre at home w/o others to leech on.

@AnnSisuLiv

24 күн бұрын

@funkspinna There is no team. I am the team. I have a job to do. I do it effectively. Going into an office is pointless and waste time. Even if there was a team, it has never increased productivity for me. It has only ever been a time- waster. The only people who need support from a team are people who don't know what they're doing.

@funkspinna

24 күн бұрын

@@AnnSisuLiv With an attitude like that, I bet "there's no team". LOL.

Is it morally fair for you to work in an air conditioned office when there are construction workers and farmers outside in the rain and sun? What a crock.

@AveArmyJoe

19 күн бұрын

Yes it is. Ones life force and energy will be expended regardless of where the work is being preformed. Just my opinion.

@Oyuki-Mayonesa

18 күн бұрын

👏👏. And i as a woman, working from home have more time to make my family a healthy dinner and clean the house after the work day is over. Otherwise the extra 2 hours a day is spent in Traffic and dinner sucks and no energy left to keep the house tidy :(

I do not need to commute into an office to close the millions of dollars of deals that I do for my company.

I surely miss the 2.5-hour commute plus gas expenses, but mostly I miss the kindergarten-level team-building activities, because, you know, "it's not a job, it's a family".

I am writing this comment as I work from home. I get more done and have less distractions

@gtbigdog3507

24 күн бұрын

I save 2 hours a day not commuting. The commute is stressful

@palvarez83

24 күн бұрын

Less distractions like you tube videos about working from home

@squirequirk1618

24 күн бұрын

Same here

@Leadeshipcoach

24 күн бұрын

@@palvarez83🤣👍

@chesteredgewater3951

24 күн бұрын

the two hours I spend on the road I use to work when I'm working from home. the two days I commute into work o give then 8 hrs.The days I work from home 10 hrs minimum.

I work from home and prefer it. The nastiness, maliciousness and vindictiveness I don't have to put up with. The office politics can really become unbearable, I work well at home and are really focused. I like being in a laptop class, we still manage to be a close team.

@Booz2020

23 күн бұрын

I work from a VAN. Van Life 😎🇺🇲

@life107familyfitnessboxing8

23 күн бұрын

I agree with you there "The nastiness, maliciousness and vindictiveness I don't have to put up with. The office politics can really become unbearable, I work well at home and are really focused". But unfortunately for me I cannot work from home because my partner and children are so disruptive. I hate the The nastiness, maliciousness and vindictiveness one has to put up with at work. Elon is right in many respects working from home can be immoral. It all depends on what way you look at it.

@Nonybusinessxxxxxx

23 күн бұрын

Don't forget the nasty fish someone microwaves or other office smells or the sick people who come in. Ugh

I think it is immoral that Pat gets to sit in a comfy studio with AC while there are people working outside the studio sweating, getting exposed to UV radiation all day as they cut the lawn and take care of gardens that have been sprayed with pesticides and herbicides. Go do the show outside Pat!

@demisx

23 күн бұрын

Good argument 👍🏻

@diegosabajo2182

23 күн бұрын

Very well said. The argument of morally wrong doesn’t hold up.

@forman208

23 күн бұрын

It's also immoral he makes so much money while millions of people are making minimum wage. He needs to cut his income significantly, it's immoral otherwise.

@badassdahn654

23 күн бұрын

Perfect

@the2step

21 күн бұрын

The moral argument is so dumb. I’m pretty sure people in food service give two shits if Tesla employees have to go the office or not. Working In solidarity, please

The moral issue is BS. I worked my ass off to become skilled enough to where working remote was a possibility for me. The jobs are there, skill up and get after it instead of bitching about the perks of success. I couldn't give 2 fucks about the "office culture". I care about deliverables. I'm here to perform a function for money, not hear about your weekend.

@edgarbm6407

23 күн бұрын

No one likes the self entitlement of work from home employees.

@Booz2020

23 күн бұрын

Spot On 💯

@SquirrelsLoveAcorns

23 күн бұрын

@@edgarbm6407except lots of thumbs up for that comment and zero for yours 😅

@3rdnewjerseyregiment974

23 күн бұрын

@@edgarbm6407 cry about it

@georgevigil7001

23 күн бұрын

💯🙌🏽💥

A billionaire preaching about morality is quite something

@joshuastoughton1693

24 күн бұрын

He should problem be more concerned about raising his dozen different kids rather than preaching to the working class how to be better workers.

@elizaleroux9173

24 күн бұрын

He's more believable than the homeless guy standing at the traffic light.

@Thejerrycurl23

24 күн бұрын

right they were just talking about how office real estate is down. Starts to make you think what side theyre on

@edgarbm6407

23 күн бұрын

And with a troll comment on the internet, you really put Musk in his place. Good job.

@Leescorp

23 күн бұрын

@@edgarbm6407 I hope he’s paying you well

Nothing wrong with working from home

@howardhughes6212

24 күн бұрын

Bums work from home

@MdudeDoes

24 күн бұрын

And slaves work for their master's, act like people, and stop Gate, keeping what is work and what isn't. "Bum"

@Dave-cf4vd

24 күн бұрын

@@howardhughes6212 Then I am a bum with a significantly higher quality of life than you.

@tracym8952

24 күн бұрын

Not directly for the business but the real estate that they were leasing is greatly impacted. Commercial real estate is having a rough time

@commonrare132

24 күн бұрын

​@MdudeDoes did you learn to spell at home? Your Grammer is terrible

As I work from home now, I think back 5 years ago. My workplace was instituting a hybrid work model (2-3 days at home, the rest in the office) which I resisted and did not take advantage of. I enjoyed going to the office every day and seeing my coworkers. Then they decided to banish me from the office for a year and a half, along with the threat of being fired. Now they want me to come back in? And a billionaire wants to shame me? How about no. I’ll come back if I want, and I’ll find someplace else to work if that’s a problem.

@demisx

23 күн бұрын

👍🏻

@georgevigil7001

23 күн бұрын

💯🙌🏽💥

I work in tech. My coworkers and I have metrics that we are graded on every year. When we were working remote only, we had top of the line metrics and were essentially breaking records quarter after quarter. When we moved to a hybrid schedule last year, our metrics dropped back to what they were before the 2020 pandemic. There are several reasons for this if you ask me. For one, it's agitating that I now have to commute 6+ hours a week. Instead of sleeping in an extra hour, I need to wake up earlier and sit in traffic to do the same job that we were all perfectly capable of doing at home. It is also significantly louder in the office and it is harder to concentrate. My boss has told me to use headphones as a remedy, but weren't we supposed to talk to each other more in person? Wasn't that the point of going in in the first place? Why go into the office for "collaboration" when I can't focus on my work and the advice I am given is to ignore everyone around me? Why bother coming in at all at that point? Regarding the example given in the video about a bad employee entering bogus information into sales force...you can just as easily be a bad worker in the office or at home. I've seen it first hand. If anything, I think it's easier to skate by in the office because you can "look" busy while not actually providing anything substantive. Working from home did not let that employee skate by for a year, it was bad policies or bad managers. They should have noticed something was off with that employee within the first few months and taken care of the problem early. Why punish the rest of us?

@kaceysmiley7917

24 күн бұрын

Excellently put. I’m an auditor and most of us work from home cause everything is electronic now. We went from being at a client 5 days a week to maybe two or three at most. Clients love it, smaller overhead, and we get more work done at home.

@JosephKelly-uj1zo

23 күн бұрын

You are an exception. Ordinary people aren't smart enough to do it.

@Simaticus

23 күн бұрын

Amen

@taecocky

23 күн бұрын

Well said, most of the ppl talking about against remote jobs only worried about the real estate value of the buildings going down bc ppl not in them, they only want to support their pockets and not ppl mental….. and they work from home as well lol, that’s the crazy part

@jaburch7941

23 күн бұрын

​@@taecockyyou nailed it.

If that's the case then fire all of the offshore low cost IT works outsourced to India and replace them with US employees working in the office... at six figures each.

@jbo3536

24 күн бұрын

“Bro lockdowns were the best!”

@illbet4589

24 күн бұрын

Argeed

@DaniDani-ml8xk

24 күн бұрын

🙌

@edgarbm6407

23 күн бұрын

You mean expensive work from home employees can easily be replaced by cheap out sourced workers in crap countries? You're not making your case.

@mariustabois8918

23 күн бұрын

​@@edgarbm6407if the topic is about "morally wrong" then either side has an argument. US jobs vs cheaper labor. It depends on which side of the table you're sitting

I work outside in the heat everyday and I'm rooting for the work from home group. The only reason why they want to return to work is because commercial real estate will crash. The powers broke the dam during Covid and now they can't control the flow of water.

23 күн бұрын

100%. Wise counties/cities are making efforts to rezone and get these pure office parks redeveloped into mixed use which will contain housing, retail commercial, and much smaller volumes of office. Gripping onto the old ways, jamming the roads full of commuters to office parks, just so they can work in software the same as they could from home, is incredibly inefficient. It's bad for energy use and traffic, which leads to deteriorated mental health of the masses.

@arnoldziffel4943

23 күн бұрын

Unintended consequences suck.

@Richie2k6

23 күн бұрын

You work outside in the heat everyday? And Pat gets to work in a building with air conditioning everyday? Sounds morally wrong to me. Pat should work outside with his laptop next to you, sweating on a bench while he works. It's only fair, according to him.

We left SoCal 25 years ago because my husband had a three-hour R/T commute to LA. We had three kids five and under. Now he commutes 30 minutes each way two days a week after his office went remote. I retired. I might have continued working if remote had been an option. An office full of lawyers is the worst. Psychopaths. The women in their 30s and 40s are the worst. Social Justice Warrior, Mean Girl bullies. Miserable because no man wants them. Turned my hair white.

@na27000

23 күн бұрын

Wow very well said!! Hehehe ❤

@Nonybusinessxxxxxx

23 күн бұрын

I believe it... all those "girl boss" types are miserable cause they're old and alone.

@zackrazak4366

22 күн бұрын

I laughed when you talk about unmarried women....hahaaha

When "work" needs to cut people in layoffs, where does the morality go? It's just business at that stage, right.

@arnoldziffel4943

23 күн бұрын

Exactly. Fun hearing one of the bosses talk about morality. I wonder if Elon has heard about the concept of unintended consequences.

@1voluntaryist

16 күн бұрын

@@arnoldziffel4943 "unintended consequences" mostly applies when a narrow focus is used to justify using force, e.g., coercive govt., e.g., regulating wages by law.

WFH is a life-changer. Saving thousands of dollars a year just in public transport costs alone. More time to exercise EVERY day. No crappy and expensive takeout lunches. My colleagues are my colleagues - they are NOT my friends or family. I love working in a quiet environment with fresh air, not noisy aircon. And still get more done and more efficiently. NEVER going back to an office job. Don’t care what anyone says.

@CataclysmDM

21 күн бұрын

Sure. Just wish WFH crybabies would STFU about not getting paid enough or working too many hours or just whining in general. I travel for work, and I do 12 hour days and stay in shitty rooms... and these absolute pathetic children are complaining about 40 hour 5 day work weeks.

@tpribors

20 күн бұрын

I agree. No people stopping by to talk, wasting your time. I've been working from home since 1998. My whole team is remote, and some are in another country. We have metrics for quality and quantity, and meet weekly to check in. We are results driven. If it's done well and on time, I don't care if you got some extra "me" time.

@PaulV-xx3jk

19 күн бұрын

I agree also but keep in mind companies are starting to out source our jobs to other countries

@jacobgagnon1820

17 күн бұрын

@@PaulV-xx3jkexactly, youre trading your job security for comfort. These companies will just outsource all the work for better bottom lines

Elon must have commercial real estate that is tanking in value.

@Thepippinator2

21 күн бұрын

You already know 😂

Work in the office is petty, political and distracting.

@joshuastoughton1693

24 күн бұрын

I like not having to hold in my farts, or worry about how frequently I use the restroom at home. I also dont have to fake being friends, or try to make polite conversation during lunch breaks. The number of people who try to talk to me while reading a book is exhausting.

@Based_Comment

22 күн бұрын

​@joshuastoughton1693 nothing worse than myself as a conservative trying to "build a relationship" with a team built of Indian man right off the boat, 2 liberal men, and a 50 year old woman. So much in common to talk about!

The guy who makes cars, wants us to drive 😂

I hate working from home, but guys that is a stupid argument.

@ben-taobeneton3945

24 күн бұрын

huh? who said 'I hate working from home'? Working from home is a dream.

@commonrare132

24 күн бұрын

​@@ben-taobeneton3945 says the one whose never worked a day in their lives

@thatfunnykekguy6377

24 күн бұрын

@@commonrare132 Probably did, made a routine and knows stress and how to be productive. Unlike people working from homes.

@DanReh

23 күн бұрын

it's not stupid for PBD. The elites (like PBD) don't want workers to have any rights so they can stay enslaved to the system and make them a lot of money.

@AmpersAndAI

23 күн бұрын

"I hate working from home" You hate freedom?

How many times are you guys going to revisit this topic to drive home your biased points as business owners

People in offices should work outside because it’s morally wrong that the people that built and maintain those buildings have to work outside in the scorching sun or freezing cold weather, rain etc..

@J-11mph

24 күн бұрын

exactly

@ricomajestic

24 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@thatfunnykekguy6377

24 күн бұрын

That's moronic as f ... congrats.

Another thing these employers do not like the idea that some people are working 2-3 full time jobs at once.

@illbet4589

24 күн бұрын

So what? Until Trump gets back in office, we are all trying to survive inflation

@daminh9245

24 күн бұрын

@@illbet4589I get it but these companies don’t care about that. They’re going to feel like you’re not 100% focused if you have to juggle between multiple jobs. It’s also partly about control. Thats what you have to deal with when you work for others. It’s not fair but it’s life unfortunately.

Tom wants people to work at the office to give high fives. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂

@bbqbros3648

24 күн бұрын

That quote felt like it was out of Office space.

@AmpersAndAI

24 күн бұрын

I couldnt roll my eyes hard enough but he needs to keep his boss happy lol

@AxelFoley948

24 күн бұрын

Peak boomer take

@forman208

23 күн бұрын

He's often out of touch being so much older than the rest of the panel, but that was comically stupid lol

@Based_Comment

22 күн бұрын

Man I can't imagine why his YT channel does 100 views a video...😂

Businesses like work from office NOT because of productivity BUT BECAUSE OF control. That's it. Weak and bad managers are unable to cope with the new age of technology and work environment. This happened back in the 1970s when we got the first e-mails, computers, and early networking. Complexity went through the roof and nobody knew what the F to do. Same here.

@miltonallen558

24 күн бұрын

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

@ben-taobeneton3945

24 күн бұрын

My man. W comment. At least one here is out of the matrix.

@joshuastoughton1693

24 күн бұрын

It is about control, and corporate budget. Managers and corporate owners like to own property and office space. It gives them control, and allows them to spend the company money as a business expense. It also allows them to bloat the budget with unnecessary expenditures, like office furniture, lunch meals, or other things to take up office space. If corporations no longer require you to work in an office, middle managers will lose their budget spending powers, and the real estate market will take a massive hit.

@ty57404

24 күн бұрын

I think all the points or postives of coming in the office is true but the biggest reason is what you pointed out it’s all about control and watching what your employees are doing.

@ainisepalu8427

23 күн бұрын

Spot on! One of the Sups wanted us all back in the office. Not one person I spoke to agreed. It is all about control, I could sense it and the way she kept hounding the staff to agree made her more enemies.

You mean he hates that people aren't sitting in traffic, wasting their life,breathing stale air under artificial light, spending time away from their kids and pets? Just to do a job, they can do better and are more productive and enthusiastic to do at home? No one wants to gossip around the water cooler anymore.

I can say for a fact that I miss the office and the camaraderie, it's just so invaluable. I love getting sick, seeing people's lunches gunk up the sink, stepping in piss at the urinals, listening to the guy two seats over chuckle-snorting with huge headphones on all day not knowing everyone can hear him while in wet socks from walking to work in the rain. I also love being ignored by the boss who doesn't give a crap if the experts say an approach wont work - and then has me stay late to fix the thing I would have had done correct in the first place. Listening to speeches and going to meetings that should have been emails is practically a hobby of mine. I am so glad I got to do while in the office. The perks of having my in-office time consumed by feel-good tasks for the boss so that I can work unpaid overtime when the meetings taking 5 times longer than they should have is just such a character building experience. I'm practically two characters now because of it. I miss it all so, so, so much. So much.

@arnoldziffel4943

23 күн бұрын

Lol you’re going to make me have sweet, sweet dreams of my office tonight.

@ainisepalu8427

23 күн бұрын

😂🤣😅

@georgevigil7001

23 күн бұрын

💯🙌🏽💥😂

Office work is more expensive and creates unnecessary overhead and maintenance but supports local businesses in the business districts. WFH does not. Theres no reason to have that overhead as a business if your workers are just keying in data on a computer all day. People don't type any faster in an office than they do at home and productivity goals don't change.

@rebchizelbeak5392

24 күн бұрын

Actually, in my workplace, productivity went up with WFH.

@ben-taobeneton3945

24 күн бұрын

@@rebchizelbeak5392 depending what you do

@pindapoy1596

24 күн бұрын

@duketogo2616 Sure, for people that do not care for anything else but operating a computer all day long because they are not capable to do anything more intelligent, any place is a good place

@duketogo2616

23 күн бұрын

@@pindapoy1596 You know the AI engineers building the future are some of the smartest people in the world at the highest echelons of the intelligence scale and all their work takes place on a computer, right?

@pindapoy1596

23 күн бұрын

@@duketogo2616 Not exactly. There are a lot of objections to AI in all walks of life precisely because it dehumanizes intelligence and social interfaces People have repeatedly expressed FEAR that AI will become a police agent, a spy in your private life, a creator of unemployment and a substitute to human relationships. What you see happening is extreme computer power achieving spectacular results where useful (and there are many areas of (usefulness )but the day you will need surgery you will not want that to be based on AI diagnostics without your having anything to say and I am not sure that you will be delighted to fly in a plane piloted by AI. And when it comes to your kids education, I am not sure if a robot teacher will perform to your liking reading from a book written by AI. And finally AI engineers are not necessarily the smartest people in the world. They are good at what they do but once outside their narrow field, they may be the biggest morons on the planet simply because they do not know anything else in most cases.

During COVID, I got 100% of my salary to work from home and was able to save 40% of my income NOT having to go out, GAS WAS CHEAP at $2 a gallon premium, and I was investing on the stock market while everything was crashed. We all basically got a taste of what it feels like to be wealthy. Now they wanna just TURN IT OFF and tell people to go back to work? LOL.

@jbo3536

24 күн бұрын

Bet you’d LOVE another lockdown huh?

@Robert-fx3ng

24 күн бұрын

@@jbo3536they decided to lock things down and we had to make home offices. I didn’t hear anything negative about working from home during Covid. Now you people are worried it may crash the office real estate market? Turn your offices into apartments.

23 күн бұрын

@@jbo3536 Nope. He's just saying he appreciated having a significant chunk of his expenses reduced, allowing him to save/invest more. Given that he was able to do his job at home, he's suggesting it's not unreasonable to desire continuing to do it from home. He's right. Imagine being exposed to electricity and power tools, and then having some goofballs tell you that you need to go back to manual tools because some other people around the world still use them. There are different types of jobs; some require being in-person, and others don't. CV19 hit and hundreds of millions of office workers learned they could do their job at home. It's absurd to suggest they're wrong in thinking that is still true.

Yet HE works from home 🏠 people who work from home cannot be controlled! It’s not my fault you chose to be a cook !

There's no moral or logical argument to make someone commute to an office that can work remotely for a wide variety of reasons.

Okay then tell Elon he's not allowed to access his work on his phone or laptop or tablet then. I'd like to see how he'd cope having to go into the office just to read an email.

@cavejohnson4054

24 күн бұрын

Elon is the one who previously bragged about working from home, in his hot tub, on his phone

@ben-taobeneton3945

24 күн бұрын

@@cavejohnson4054 haha that is true 😂

@michelleturner8558

24 күн бұрын

He makes engough money where he controls where he works but you don’t.

@AmpersAndAI

24 күн бұрын

@@michelleturner8558 So it is just a class thing?

@TeamCGS2005

24 күн бұрын

@@michelleturner8558 What a ridiculous response. What does how much he makes got anything to do with it?

I am rather an honest laptop class every day than being a seller of life insurance. Talk about being immoral!

@jorgeortega2555

24 күн бұрын

No one walks on water. No one is perfect especially you.

@marcotrujillo5628

24 күн бұрын

So you’re a chump

@tonykochel

24 күн бұрын

You mean like PBD was?

@miltonallen558

24 күн бұрын

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 MLM BS

@jorgeortega2555

24 күн бұрын

Pbd can speak for himself. I know that no one is perfect. I know anyone who claims moral high ground is sus.

Congress goes to work together, and we all get screwed, I guess going in person works!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'm with Adam on this issue. I'll be 60 in March and my commute was and hour and a half each way 5 days a week before the pandemic. We're now in the office one day per week and non of my coworkers want to be there including the supervisors. All of my work is done on my laptop that's what they pay me to do. I don't get paid for the 3 hours getting to and from the office and I don't need some unelected billionaire telling me I'm morally wrong for not acting like a good little surf.

For the first time, I have heard Adam making an intelligent point.

@ben-taobeneton3945

24 күн бұрын

True, I actually can agree on that 'Hybrid work' point.

@elizaleroux9173

24 күн бұрын

I missed it

@lilolives6098

23 күн бұрын

I missed it too…. He’s best when he doesn’t talk

@jaburch7941

23 күн бұрын

Ditto.

@Donavon551

23 күн бұрын

He's made a lot more. Don't hate

Office interactions are soul crushing

@roberthawkins3106

24 күн бұрын

💯 I'd rather spend my time interacting with my pets while I do my work instead of fake awkward conversations with coworkers.

23 күн бұрын

But the coffee machine! There's free coffee! Don't you get it! It's free! And it's coffee! Isn't that amazing and totally worth the 200hrs per year in commute time?

@roberthawkins3106

23 күн бұрын

Don't forget about the annual company pizza party to show their appreciation to their workers.. lol

@forman208

23 күн бұрын

I love talking about the weather and the commute.

I have been with my company 24 years. I worked remotely for 20 years. I was forced into an office 2 years ago to keep my job. Now I am sick all the time and have to deal with this weird culture of inclusion.

Funny it’s now a “moral” issue. If I earn a owner money and crush my numbers fuck off with all that.

fix all the other moral issues in this society before coming after workers.

I don’t go to work to make friends and network. I go to work. If i can work more efficiently from home, why continue to go to the office.

It saves you time of your life and money… the moral issue is him thinking we are slaves… I’m an adult, I don’t need baby sitting… and I’m more productive at home than in the office. There’s not such thing as friendships at work

I've worked from home for 13 years. I was able to be here for my kids. I save tons of money. I'm more productive because I'm independent and I have never enjoyed group work. Also, I don't miss the office environment of a group of all women and therefore drama. Much more peace working from home. We have email and Teams meetings to stay connected, focusing only on work. My husband is in construction. I appreciate the difference in our work environments and how his is much tougher. Jobs are different and people are different. Not everyone is good working from home.

elon wants you driving a tesla to work..haha

What would Musk know about morals?

@ben-taobeneton3945

24 күн бұрын

Good question.

Im more productive working at home. Less distractions and chit chat. I dont need anything offered in office. Its better for me, you dont have to work home if you dont want to. Its called HAVING A CHOICE AND FREEDOM. corporate shills...

My team is 100% remote and is the best, most productive team in the company. I understand that pilots and truck drivers can't "work from home" (as of today) but that does not make it "immoral"... It's just different. Working at a Tesla factory is also much more comfortable than working on an oil rig or a fishing boat or being a soldier on a mission...

@grygaming5519

22 күн бұрын

40% of the jobs in the US can be WFH. That's 40% less traffic on the road and the fact that none of these people talk about the insane work-life balance. Then again PDB is a former MLM marketer so his whole thing is to turn those "down trotted" people into millionaires by selling them the dream of a MLM franchise. No different than Primerica people.

If your job allows it and it makes sense, I have no issue with it. Why can’t a delivery driver work from home? How does that make sense, if that delivery driver wants to work from home, maybe said delivery driver should find a job that allows working from home. There are actually a lot of benefits that come with work remote, work life balance, saving money. Not all jobs allow work from home and even the ones that do, it’s not full-time remote.

...and some people get to make a lot of money sitting in an airconditioned studio talking into a mic while others have to work as bricklayers, miners, etc. Moral high ground... says the rich as they drive by the homeless in their brand-new Lambo.

As someone who manages a team that works from home… I don’t care where they are working as long as they get their work done. As a leader it’s my job to foster great communication and help my team build relationships and help them collaborate together. For some people working from home doesn’t work but for many people it brings a greater balance to work/life.

@AmpersAndAI

24 күн бұрын

These conservatives are really disappointing. They think this is a moral issue. Right and wrong, good vs evil. Isnt it ironic that the top 1% are trying to force this bullshit? And what a surprise, they love Mr Trump. The Democrats may be a lot of things, but at least they dont pretend to care about the working class while simultaneously supporting everyone and everything that doesnt support them

I work for a government contractor that only hires work from home for my position. I've been work from home for almost 19 years.

As a guy who has to commute working from home makes driving easier as theres less traffic From a practical perspective

When you team is spread across multiple time zones, the office doesn't make sense. Bring everything back to the US and I'd happily go back to the office.

Been Working Remote since 2018 as a Data analyst. Never going back to office again. I can work for any company and from anywhere. Me sitting in Phoenix traffic and doing commute for 3 hrs a day is not something that will make me productive.

I work from home and my productivity has gone way up. So many distractions at the office, constantly got interrupted. If these people want to work from home then get a job that gets you out of the factory then.

Love Elon but I disagree totally .

23 күн бұрын

Yep, this has been a disappointing take from him throughout the pandemic and now. There are different types of jobs. Some require being in-person because they are literally impossible otherwise (construction, landscaping, brick & mortar retail, restaurants, etc)... MS Excel for 8 hours a day? Absolutely doable remote.

I would think it is morally wrong that he wants to give himself a salary of over 50 billion dollars meanwhile more and more people are becoming poor and barely can survive financially.

Where else would the laptop Workforce Go and show off their luxury watches in handbags and sunglasses if they don't go to the office

There is nothing wrong with working from home. If I can be just a productive at home as I am at work. While I’m able to take my kids to school etc. Why wouldn’t I? I don’t mind going into the office sometimes it’s a good change of pace. Me personally I believe once people was able to start working from home they realized maybe this company isn’t my entire life…

As a Tesla owner of two Teslas, there’s nothing wrong with working from home. This is not the old 1940s OK things have changed.

@jbo3536

24 күн бұрын

“Things have changed bro haha, lockdowns were AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

@joshuastoughton1693

24 күн бұрын

@@jbo3536 Youre completely changing the argument. Working at home is great, and only slackers or bosses with real estate investments care about working in office. The lock downs were awful, and most people would agree, even those who benefited from them. And the lock downs did cause a permanent, drastic change in western society, the effects of which we will see for a decade or more.

Hell why stop there? Why don't we go back to using telegrams or morse code? Actually every time Elon wants to make a call to Japan, he has to BOOK the tickets and travel there instead? Actually no. He has to WALK there!

If my job can be done from home, then I’ll do it at home. Cars can’t be built at home.

It's not immoral to work from home, that's what probably most people have done for thousands of years.

Haters gonna hate

Not everybody should but those that can...do. Got a problem with it? Then get a job that makes it so you also can work from home....not my fault that you are only educated enough to work from a factory

@ben-taobeneton3945

24 күн бұрын

Solid point.

@lovemoves3312

24 күн бұрын

That part 🎯

@billsmith9737

24 күн бұрын

I own a hvac business with 50 employees.. don’t call me to fix your hvac system either .. stupid elitist bs comment .. not educated enough .. I’m a multi millionaire and built it from nothing .. what do you do ?

I work in niche ERP staffing where people are hard to find, and companies want these people onsite daily. I ask why, they say, it's company culture.

I work for a marketing company that does 50 million per year. 300 employees and we all are remote around the globe. Managers know how to keep us accountable and productive. The company has been remote since day 1.

Musk couldn’t give two af about the house workers or teachers that can’t wfh, never thought I’d be agreeing with Adam 😂

If you work from home, you don't need to save on gas and buy an electric vehicle!?!

After 30 plus years of working on site with multiple co-workers I can only think of one co-worker that I still keep in touch with. Your co-workers are not your friends.

But all the companies realized we even produced more doing home office that’s why many still do it and save the cost to rent.

Elon is getting on my nerves. How about you worry about Tesla Corp. and Twitter X?

in an environment where we are getting screwed at 30% inflation over the past years, working from home puts a significant amount of $ in my pocket. Businesses arent going to adjust my wages for inflation. The "free market " will take years, if ever, to compensate for this tyoe of inflation.

Since 2020, my husband has been working from home. It saves him 3 hours of drive time going back and forth in Nashville traffic plus going out for an hour lunch break, again in traffic. As a result, his boss scored almost four additional hours of my husband's time which is now spent working. He grabs lunch from the kitchen and goes right back to his desk. My husband works more now, from home, than when he went into the office. All this to say.....he's always on video meetings since the rest of his team is in Texas, Florida, Arizona, and Mexico. For a different twist...his boss (in Texas) cannot get work done from home so he rents an office space in a building...just big enough for him to have a desk and a few chairs behind closed doors. He works there during office hours then goes home and works some more. I guess it depends on the job and how disciplined you are.

He laid off thousands of employees and refused to take a pay cut to prevent that. He has no right to talk about morals.

I've been working from home since 2012. In the words of Diddy "Can't stop Won't stop!"🕺🕺🏻🕺🏼🕺🏽🕺🏾🕺🏿

WTH? Elon created the single best thing to enable WFH. Starlink! Now he’s bawling? ….It’s apples and oranges. Every job is different. Our world and tech created the laptop class. It’s here to stay. Nuff said. 😂

@Booz2020

23 күн бұрын

Such an irony 😮

I’m 100% WFH and have no problem. I’m more productive (yes, I am because I don’t have to sit in traffic). All of my coworkers are WFH, as are many of my clients. (Which btw, we are all geographically disbursed). My job isn’t dependent upon working within my teammates. I took steps and made choices in my life so that I can get jobs that allow you to work remotely. For those that can WFH, let us be.

They act like the people working from home didn’t earn the right to do so. Ridiculous

If you want to change the world and be 'all-in' on a mission with Elon, I understand working from home is going to fail, however, most companies have a toxic work culture who have zero loyalty to you (but expect loyalty from you) and will lay you off without batting an eye with offices located in expensive, urban areas that are very difficult to afford and commute to / from. If we want people to be happy, have families, and achieve the american dream, we must embrace remote work. It's not about entitlement. It's about being realistic with modern work/life challenges. I have personally seen productivity increase with remote work and there's plenty of data supporting this. Go look it up. If you must blame someone, blame corporate america. They have pushed employees around enough. Remember when the Covid relief fund for businesses were suppose to save jobs? They took the cash and fired people anyway. Stop blaming workers! I remember a time when a barista could afford a home. That's a pipe dream now.

He saying this because he has 20 year leases on commercial spaces and wants them filled. He’s masking this as a moral issue when its about his bottom line lmao

I run a company with 47 employees we all work from home. There are times when people slack off but overall we’ve been very successful and not having an office has given us a huge advantage in finding talent.

I have Laptop class employees that are almost impossible to get into the Office. They merely don't get raises, no bonuses, no special treatments. They have the priveldge to work in their pajamas.

Working at is morally wrong but living at work is not in his eyes apparently 🤷🏻‍♂️

So because someone who builds houses can't work from home then no one should be able to? Even smart people have dumb opinions sometimes. "Construction workers don't get to work in the air condition so no one should"

@armour2king

23 күн бұрын

That was my first association as well.

@grygaming5519

22 күн бұрын

Funny thing is, most construction workers are 6months on and 6 month's off. Meaning they are home half the year if the market is really slow. I only know this because one of the guys I work with used to be in construction. Used to tell me they would work 6 month stints and the longest he's ever been on a site was 2 years (his company got sub-contracted for track housing). Then when there's a drought, he'd have to be a handyman competing with other construction workers often leading to even worst wages. Eventually after the 2nd to last contract he just decided to job change, went into IT and works remote. Still has his license to do construction work just doesn't use it, IT pays him more and he's at home with his kids.

I work in ICT and work from home, 4 days a week. I don't care what some of the CEO's and CFO's of this world are squawking about. I am FAR more productive from home than travelling an hour into the office, paying $20 for parking, and then another hour for the trip home. Public transport is cheaper, but who wants to smell like piss, or encounter potential crime on the way. I also work late into the night some days. Yes, person to person contact, meetings and lunches etc are important, but it's BUSINESS. There needs to be a LOT more research into this, funded by NON PARTISAN entities before this gets resolved. Cities, and civilisation in general are decentralising, and yes, COVID has accelerated this. There needs to be clear rules in place, such as, if you're in a meeting, cameras are compulsory, calls are always answered, emails responded to within hours etc, BUT, working from home for some is paramount to a healthy work/life balance, and has benefited millions of families around the world. Integrity is EVERYTHING.

Class disagreement. Work from home is great for the working class so naturally the bosses hate it

Whats moral about being in the office vs at home?

@Dave-cf4vd

24 күн бұрын

He thinks because some people have to go to work, then all of us should go to work. Nope.

@chrismulivanu4866

24 күн бұрын

@@Dave-cf4vd what’s moral about doing the same thing as other people? Seems odd to add any type of morality for this. A question I’d ask Elon “is the person going into the office more moral than the “laptop class”?

Moral issue? Is it moral to have hundreds of billions of dollars when others in your company are making a fraction of that?

@patrickmcardle4771

24 күн бұрын

YES.

@mortgageloansandheavydumbbells

24 күн бұрын

He doesn't have billions of dollars. Stock options and money in the bank are two VERY different things

is it morally right that I work at the desk, sitting all day and drinking coffees, while people who make the car I designed are standing and doing manual labour? See the irony?

Elon wants to work people into the ground, period, this whole argument is such a huge waste of time.