Worst writers in the history of TV shows 👎

@valeriav7333

4 жыл бұрын

Anna Luisa Rossini well clearly you know nothing about the lows and highs of high school football

@wisdommanari6701

4 жыл бұрын

Best Season Eva!!

@ZendikarMage42750

4 жыл бұрын

@scuba Steve but what about John Oliver? He needs that sweet HBO money for his ridiculous stunts

One of the most disappointing aspects to me about the later seasons, is when characters are introduced to each other. It all started with Tyrion meeting Dany in that low budget arena. I didn’t enjoy it but convinced myself I did. And it just got worse with every meeting. Dan and Dave just don’t know how to write believable dialogue. It why I can’t stand Arya anymore, or Jon, or Dany, they were all turned into Saturday morning cartoon versions of themselves. Like robots pretending to be Game of Thrones characters based off of specific scenes that were fed into a computer and translated into a story by an A.i.

@darioluque9079

3 жыл бұрын

*I didn't enjoy it but convinced myself I did* That describes me in many ways and very well

@YouLittleRascal

3 жыл бұрын

The worst part, is that there is good dialogue that's not taken from the book, so there is talent. Only to be overshadowed by... everything else

The biggest effect the forgotten characters has on the overall series to me is that it makes the world feel less rich and deep. The first few seasons the world felt large and lived in as we saw major and minor characters interacting, plotting, and pulling strings. As the show narrowed down and started to focus on just a handful of major characters, while it did give us moments to get to know them more in depth, it also took away some of that early richness, the world just felt smaller because we weren't getting to spend as much time with the secondary and supporting characters.

When Arya killed all Freys and Arya did not know of Edmure, he should be rotting there to dust, since somewhen nobody fed him anymore. Im pretty offended that they did not think of him even though he is mentioned in the same episode, in which Arya killed Walder Frey and seemingly soon after killed all Freys at the feast. How was the situation in the riverlands after Arya had eliminated all Freys ? Who was in charge now ? It would be a nice sideplot to see Arya meeting her uncle in the cells and she frees him and he starts his quest to unify the riverlands again under Tully rule. Otherwise if it had been still protected by Lannister/Frey troops it would also have been quite difficult for Jon/Davos passing them for the siege of King's Landing. But they forgot it all and rather wanted a foolish Edmure for the council without any backstory how the hell he came out the cell and back in charge again.

@barbarabailey6356

4 жыл бұрын

The girls & women lived

@robchang4533

4 жыл бұрын

@@barbarabailey6356 Well but where were they ? Why werent they at the feast ? Did they have their own in the kitchens ? But there was this one girl, to whom Arya as Walder said, that she is not allowed to drink the wine and afterwards that she should tell everyone that winter came to house Frey. Therefore it seemed as if she has been the only surviver. I feel like its a classical plot hole, that they did not mention the fate of Edmure even though his reimprisonment was mentioned before. They could have kept him in oblivion that he might have been forgotten but then dont let him reappear in such a sudden manner like in 8.6..

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

@@robchang4533 exactly. Thats why I didnt say that he could also have died in his cell from starvation. They shoehorned him in the final episode like nothing happened, it is so ridiculous.

I think the worst forgotten characters were the warlocks of Qarth. They used them to introduce Barristan Selmy to Daenerys, and even set them up with a creepy "we'll be back" kind of moment... and then you never hear about them ever again.

Imagine being remembered as the two worst TV show producers ever. That's some legacy to leave behind

Please DO NOT give it a rest! I think a lot of us still are hanging on to hope for the books and others just need a place to continue to get group therapy for their anger towards the writers. Evaluating the show, however critical, and talking about the show and the books keep the story alive. It is a great story overall and will be enjoyed for decades to come in the same way Harry Potter is still adored, talked about, and analyzed. If they built a Game of Thrones theme park, we'd all go, ashes and all. Even with the ending of the show being terribly rushed, the universe the show takes place in leaves much to be enjoyed and discussed. The universe of ASOIAF is so vast that it would be a shame to toss away such a magical world for a single dragon's scale by comparison.

@amy7189

4 жыл бұрын

I'm still recovering...^-^'

They make me so angry...

the thing is, the show was always so broad in terms of characters. i rewatched the first three season many times before i had all the connection between those characters in my head. but as the show went further, fewer characters have been mentioned until the final season where it was just arya, sansa, jon, deanarys, cersei, tyrion and some minor characters like tormund, brienne and podrick. the first seasons were like reading a history book while the final seasons were more like watching an episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S.

i thought about the biggest what ifs for a while as well. What if HBO let d&d leave after season 4 when they booked the disney deal? They could have taken a two year break and let someone else take over to which they would have been able to go on a 6-8 season run. What if they would have merely expanded on the source material? The biggest flaws definitely began to occur when they wandered off and tried to be too clever for their own good.

Still no part 3 & 4 :(

Keep making these!

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

I am working on a different Game of thrones series for awhile. Even before I made these, I didnt want to end up doing double work so I am committing fully to the one series coming soon. A teaser trailer will be released this week

Boycott all D&D workings , flip us off with poor writing flip them back off with not buying GOT season 8 , star wars and whatever else they plan on making , such hack writers.

Towards the end, there are so many immense issues that a few forgotten characters are just a minor inconvenience. From Ellaria killing the brother of her great love (and all the other really awesome Dorne-stuff in the books) through FAegon and the dumbing down of Varys, Tyrion and Littlefinger to the whole Littlefinger-Sansa plotline (and Sansa being smart at the snipping of a finger after only making stupid decisions for the best of 7 seasons). I mean, the whole fake Arya, Alayne and Harry the Heir plotline will most likely be awesome, and you can even see Sansas involvement in the battles to come unfold, while everything she does and has done to her in the show is extremely forced and plain stupid.

I've only just finally become able to think of game of thrones again, coz the pain of how d & d ruined it has finally eased up. Now I'm fighting for them to remake season 8 or make a season 9 that will give all of us fans some closure & answers. So I'm watching all these videos again now.

Demure was back in his cell at the twins. Left some point after Arya wiped out the Frays. Shithead says, “Edmure is back in his cell wouldn’t be right killing my son-in-law” only for a hot minute Arya is already there.

I loved this show through season 7 even with the flaws but season 8 destroyed it.... I wish they had just let some other writers take over if they wanted to leave the show so that it could have gotten the ending it deserved.

@Story2ScreenMovieReviewPodcast

4 жыл бұрын

Are you one of those fab who can watch GOT again despite season 8 or can not because how badly it ended?

Excellent set of videos. Thank you so much. 😁😁

There was a Dornish army and she was not the real chief of Dorne. Because we do see a Dornish prince in the last episode. Btw, when Cersei is referring to the dust of bones, I think it was a mere expression. Ahahah Varys told her that the snakes were defeated before as the Iron islands. They just thought they were dead. But it is weird that the Dornish army didn't retaliate...

@Wveth

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it was an expression, exactly. I mean, she probably didn't literally expect Ellaria to survive that long, but I think she absolutely intended to keep Ellaria alive as long as she possibly could.

These aren't small problems. As a writer, for any medium, it is your responsibility to let the audience know what happens to characters who take up significant portions of the plot (which I would argue all of these characters most definitely do) if they leave the plot before the end of the story. People in world would want to know about them, especially give that they have relationships with other characters AND could have played major rolls in events had they still been around. The characters are not the audience: they don't know everything that we do; they can't see the arc of the story and determine who is a major character and who is a minor character; they don't know when another character is no longer relevant. The characters are meant to be people, with thoughts, emotions, wants, etc. We wouldn't (or shouldn't anyway) just randomly forget about a friend, enemy, or business partner just because we haven't seen them in a while; we'd think about them and wonder what happened and where they were. The characters should do this too. I'm not suggesting that you devote several minutes of dialog per episode to characters asking each other about MIA characters, but where it's relevant for those missing characters to be thought about, those who know about them should bring them up! The whole point of telling a story is to transport the audience to another world, be that a literal other world or just a part of the world thaat the audience is unfamiliar with. While I would argue keeping the story immersive is integral to all story-telling, it's especially vital in fantasy stories. The audience already has to buy in to whichever rules of reality you're breaking in the first place (magic, dragons, zombies, etc) so the rest needs to feel as close to reality as is possible to help the story still feel real despite the fantastic elements. Having your characters act plot devices solely there to move the story along rather than like real people is one of the easiest ways for the story to feel forced. When D&D just cut these characters out with zero in-show explanation given and all of the characters acting as if they had an explanation when they would have no reasonable way of getting one, it strips away of the the present characters' humanity.

Daddy got them the gig, what else needs to be said

for whoever asks you why do you still talk about game of thrones? Its over give it a rest. My response would be, why do we still talk about Romeo and Juliet? Or Macbeth? Or To kill a Mockingbird, or The Godfather, or The Sopranos or any of the limitless Books, Plays, Films, and TV shows that are great art. Game of thrones was is a great piece of art, even if the last couple of seasons are very flawed. And the books are not done yet, they are much deeper and much better, and significantly less flawed and that world and story will be talked about for decades to come i would imagine. Even after they are finished, if they are ever finished. Great art and music and stories live forever

@donm1719

4 жыл бұрын

Some guy in the comments literally commented why people still talk bout GOT 6 months ago and even though I commented something diff to him In my head I was saying people still remember/talk about Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings which have been finished years ago so u do the math

@Wveth

4 жыл бұрын

I can't say the show Game of Thrones is a great piece of art, at least not after season 4. Actually, I think it's completely fucking unique as art goes. I don't think there's ever been a show that went from THAT good to THAT bad.

Didn't Walder Frey say to Jaime that Edmure was back in the dungeons in the last episode of season 6?

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I mention this is in the video 😅

Somewhere between season 6 and 7 this happened: Hey, Dave and DB, have you two met Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof? No? They have some advice for you.

Hi guys welcome to part 2.5 out of 4 from my GoT series. Thanks to your comments I decided to expand a little more on the topic forgotten game of thrones characters. Make sure you watched part 1 and 2 first! To stay up to date subcribe! or: Twitter: twitter.com/iamzaniofficial Instagram: instagram.com/iamzaniofficial

D&D Forgot things that the main characters said or wanted to do (or avoid at all cost to do, you know like sacking KL even if it was the fastest way to win the war) in S5-S7 can we expect them to remember de details from S2 for example?

You said Ilyn Payne was hand to thead king, tywin was. Ilyn was his captain of the guard(tywins)

@IamZani- love your vids. When will you drop your next one?

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

I got busy with work and got sick after and then went on vacation. Ill be back 2morrow and then I will grind a couple videos out 😊. Thx a lot always love to hear people enjoy them! Look out for the new vids this week

The sand snakes is what there refering too

still waiting for part 3

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

I am working on a huge project regarding GoT. Part 3 will be implemented in there. A trailer and explanation is coming soon😊

@g.h7657

4 жыл бұрын

3 months later...."sponge bob narrator voice"

the quaith scene... she says he will need help. i dont think its safe to assume that it would be her to help him.

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

No no I aint saying that it is a definite tell. I just meant that it could be seen as foreshadowing, backing up the guys comment.

Queen Daenerys was being controlled my Blood Raven ek( king Bran) real Bran is still in tree beyond the ice wall.

@DavidGarcia-oi5nt

4 жыл бұрын

BR died, also BR was amalgamated into the hive mind that is the 3 eyed crow, Bran was also amalgamated into the hive mind after BR died.

What editing program are you using?

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

I use adobe premiere! Sometimes in combination with after effects for extra effects. Not in this video though

@Wyliecoy0te

4 жыл бұрын

IamZani thanks

if u wanna know how lazy they got they went thru 7 seasons perfectly just for the last 6 eps to have 2 shots where a bottle and a starbucks cup was in it and couldnt bother to edit it out until it was pointed out....yepp

Hello bro..... I want to ask u a simple qstn... Is there any possible chance that game of thrones is going to have any sequel like remake of season 8 or further season 9....in the near future...? Pls reply

@ianvera4299

3 жыл бұрын

That will never happen.

I like your Dornish accent.

Illyrio Mopatis (Mo-Pa-Tiss)

What about the children that weee helping Varys??

0:50 Yeah just look at MauLer and his GoT rants

Chale, nada más vengo a hacer corajes

What is about Jeyne Pool?

Make movie like they did for Firefly

So where is episode 3???

Some characters are not forgotten! They just played their part in the show. Like Salladhor Saan. He's a pirate and a transporter. He lives in the sea with his mates and ships. He's not a fighter or a main character. It's the same as if the main character in some movie stops at the gas station for fuel and to buy cigarettes and you like the woman who's working there and you wanna see her again. Ding ding, you won't cause she's not a main character! You guys talk about how they screwed up the main characters stories!

lmao yah of course dorne is meant when she talks about decapitation, why would she kill ellaria after she wanted her to suffer from her daughters death

Who's to say that Ayra didn't kill Edmure and feed him to his father? I mean it would make sense

@Wveth

4 жыл бұрын

Because he's in the last episode of the show.

@alejandroramirez3316

3 жыл бұрын

Edmure's father is dead at that point

Ilyn Payne's actor got cancer and they replaced his spot in the series with Bronn because he was too big a fan favorite and too good for TV. So Bronn hangs around Jamie instead of Payne, and bringing back the actor and the character would just be an added expense to the budget that was already ballooned and force screen time away from other things once his role was replaced. Illyario's character pretty much loses it's importance in the series when you cut out young Griff and his part in the story, as Illyario is heavily believed to be tied to that characters end game, as well as possibly the Dornish prince.

@wisdommanari6701

4 жыл бұрын

You say that like they didn't burn a ton of screen time to have characters jogging in place with pointless scenes that don't advance the plot at all

@aaronh3347

4 жыл бұрын

@@wisdommanari6701 Of course they do that, they had to fill in content for story lines they left out, but it's easier to get a walk on extra than to bring in an actor who is playing a roll, and cheaper too.

Leaving Edmure at the Rock would be dumb. Jaime knew he would lose his home, when he leaves for Highgarden. So of course he couldnt stay there. There still is a Riverrun wich loved Lord Hoster and respected the Blackfish and Edmure was to dangerous. Yes I know its just funny to call Edmure dangerous, but I think I got a point. I dont know where he is, he didnt went with Jaime to Highgarden, he would have died in the first Battle with a Dragon involved (does it have a Name?) or got free that Day. I think he probably had to go to Kings Landing, where he waitet for his Niece and Nephew to save him.

Edmure was not forgotten, after RiverRun, he was forced to go to Casterly Rock, but after all the Freys died mysteriously and the Bolton's died in battle of the bastards, he came back to RiverRun and became the lord of the RiverLands again. When the unsullied atacks casterly, Edmure is in RiverRun. After Cersei and Dany made piece to defeat the dead, the unsullied and dotraki go North and on the way, the Dotraki sacks some RiverLands lands, for food. Edmure doesn't like, so he refuse to give man to Dany and Jon at Winterfell and refuse to give man to Dany, in battle of KingsLading. After Dany dies he won't to be king. Simple.

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry I dont understand some of your comments but did you watch the whole video? I base my findings on scenes that the show has given me, not by my own speculations. Can you backup your statements with scenes from the show? Also I literally showed you a scene that Edmure was back in his cell like Walder Frey said he was (6x10). In episode 7x01 the freys are killed off so Edmure at that point should be free. Edmure never ever got to casterly rock at least not according to the show. Or can you show me a scene that confirms that?

@DavidGarcia-oi5nt

4 жыл бұрын

@@Iamzani you can't argue with show apologists.

Varys reported to Daenerys that the fleet is destroyed. Greyjoys dead or captured, Elaria and the sand snakes dead or captured. No one knew Elaria's alive that's why they didn't ask about her at the meeting.

God i hate Cersei so much. I feel she really ended up having wayyy too much plot armor and then simply die by rocks falling on her? Seriously? After all she did? JFC lazy bad writing.

6:19 you all forgot something about Edmure... Right before Walder Frey is killed, he tells Jaime that Edmure is back in his cell! And because of several hints I'm convinced that they in fact shot a scene where Arya frees Edmure from his cell... How do I know this? Well I don't know this for sure but while they were shooting season 7 a long time ago there was once a leaked picture of a guy standing at Belfast Airport holding up a sign with the name Tobias Menzies (the actor who plays Edmure) on it... I'm convinced that they shot this scene but whatever no one cares about Edmure anyway, right?! WRONG !

@DavidGarcia-oi5nt

4 жыл бұрын

"I'm convinced..." "well I don't know for sure.."

@donm1719

4 жыл бұрын

Lol u contradicted yourself b4 you even made your point it’s either u know or u don’t know there’s no in between and so what he was at an airport that doesn’t prove he filmed anything mybe he filmed diff scenes mybe he just happen to be at the airport going somewhere got unrelated you don’t have a story or case and insufficient evidence, case closed

I enjoy these but don't complain when david and dan can't say something right when neither can you.

Why do we still talk about the horrible final seasons of GoT? Catharsis.

@donm1719

4 жыл бұрын

If you were a true a fan u wouldn’t be asking such questions

I pains me to hear you pronounce Illyrio’s name, Moe-patt-‘tis

@Iamzani

4 жыл бұрын

Ah thx yeah I mispronounce names a few times. English isnt my 1st language and when difficult names also get into the mix I mess up a couple times. In this case though I didnt know it was moe patt tis, thx

@DNotzz

4 жыл бұрын

IamZani i figured, i didnt mean it in a nasty way. It was just funny to mr.

@wisdommanari6701

4 жыл бұрын

GRRM doesn't care about pronunciations and it doesn't matter.

Glad I never bought the Blue rays .... 0 interest in GOT

Game of thrones is over get over it