FINALLY!!!! As a knife maker and machinist for over 35 years, I watch everyone’s video on knife making and the heat treating methods they use. Hundreds of videos and YOU were the ONLY one I seen continuously moving the blade during quenching to prevent vapor lock on the blade... GREAT job... blade looks AWESOME. Job well done

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, immediate and continuous agitation in the quench is key!

@ta2dmacabre

3 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY!!!!! I’ve seen too many just stick the knife into the quench oil and just let it sit there.... Again, GREAT job!!!

Dude, you almost gave me a heart attack at 04:39 with the sound of a car's wheels screeching. I thought someone lost control and was coming for my front wall !! I love your channel !! Very interesting work you do

@FireCreekForge

Жыл бұрын

Haha, oops! Thanks for watching!

@Gunthusiest

Жыл бұрын

Me too!😭😂

Derivative is now in my vocabulary. Thanks lol.

Love a big blade

not sure why, but hammering off the slag is the most satisfying part of stick welding. and chipping it off to reveal a stack of perfectly spaced dimes, chef's kiss.

that blade looks awesome!!

I have seen people use news paper and regular paper to a great success

My kid and I love watching your videos! They are so instructive and fascinating to watch. You have helped this man bond with his 6 year old. Awesome job!

@FireCreekForge

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome, thank you sir

@rosstait2073

Жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge we really like when you do mosaic Damascus.

Looking gorgeous

Geat video they are getting better and the blade look great

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I want to see the rest of this. The blade has a unique pattern. Looks great.

Right on!! That blade looks awesome!! I ditched mild steel tubing a long time ago and started using stainless tubing. I just did a Viking axe from a 3x3x5” can.🔥⚒💪🏻

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Cool! Is that SS tubing expensive? I haven't looked into it, but that sounds like a good idea

@HeavyForge

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge the sheet like you used is a little cheaper I believe. But ss tubing is readily available where I live. But yeah the billet will literally fall right out of the tubing.

Really nice pattern

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Looks good! If you want more of a scale pattern, don't add the powdered steel, just use the ball bearings. Or just wet the bearings and "powder" them with steel before you put them in the can but don't fill it with powder. Then when you press them they form together. It makes a nice pattern. Also the 52100 needs to be worked really hot or you get cracking like you had when pressing the billet. Looks like you got them all ground out though. Nice job and great blade!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I soaked the can for about 15+ minutes so I think I had enough heat but maybe the corners cooled off enough, not sure if it's that or something else. Fortunately it was just surface imperfections..

Gorgeous!!!

watching Oct. 2022 / man you have learn a lot since this old video !! have seen some of your recent videos

Very nice pattern

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

nice final product.

Very cool pattern!

Stunning

This was cool to watch. Your explanation as you prepared your canister answered a few questions I've always had about how and why it's done the way it is. Nice work. Thank you.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Good deal, thanks for watching!

@GlennTillema

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I see a lot of blacksmiths use this method and they don't explain at all why they're doing it. Nice to see it laid out here!

Beautiful knife

Stellar craftsmanship!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

That blade is jaw dropping, you did a great job on it.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

nice looking "overlay" pattern, very nice finish.

Beautiful

Good video brother keep em coming!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

You do a great job.

Awesome looking pattern. I definitely want to see the finished blade.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! I'm excited to get it finished

new sub...love watching blacksmithing...it is always interesting to take a material that is seen as immovable and mold it to your will...great job...cant wait to see more!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being here!

Nice one! The quench scene was perfect asmr 👍🏻

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I like to watch your videos. You allways try to comments what you do and i pick up alot of usefull things in my own work derived from you. Thank you

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Cool piece

@FireCreekForge

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Fair play mate out of all the people I follow on KZread who make knives you're the best one by far!! Your explanation throughout the whole process is next level 💪🤙 I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos, keep up the amazing work 😁🤙

@FireCreekForge

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch!

Good job!

beautiful work

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Awesome!

Your video's are amazing 👍

Awesome pattern on that one!!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

For something like fish scales, maybe washers or disks splayed like playing cards.

That pattern came out really nice! I did not expect it to be that good looking at the start of the video but it looks great!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I wasn't sure how it would turn out!

Man oh man, that is going to be a beautiful knife when you get finished with it! Good video! Thanks for posting this video!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@kennycampbelljr5896

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge That's a big and sexy blade.

Muy buen trabajo

I love the stainless foil method. Great looking blade.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I didn't get a super tight wrap so had some powder leak out and weld to the can a little bit, but nothing too bad.

My gosh what a gorgeous hunk of steel,awesome shop you have there too my friend!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank, and thanks for watching!

That pattern turned out gorgeous! I'd like to see something like that in San Mai with a O1 core or something similar.

Great pattern...

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Another blacksmith I watch, Shurap, adds spices to the mix before sealing the top. Literal spices, like pepper.

Very nice 👌

Esta fantástico

i would love to see this again but try giving the billet a twist

Good lord!! I swear your beard is getting bigger and bigger between every video...!!🤣🤣 Great job on the build maaan!!! Can’t wait for the 4.5 ish hammer!! Thanks man!!!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks. Yep I've gotta make a punch for the press and then give it a go

@wolfparty4234

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge thanks maaan!! I love how the blade came out

You can also just cut a 45 on two opposing corners and it comes off a lot easier.

Now that lead white is strictly controlled, white paint is usually made with titanium dioxide and/or zinc oxide. The latter tends to de-laminate, which might be a good thing for this application. Sunscreen and toothpaste often contain those pigments too.

... какой красивый рисунок получается из шариков у тебя псэпшские руки и сюшмакуртническая голова, ты плюртник правильно- хороший мастер!!!

nice broo...

Cool I hope I see it's for sale before others lol cause of love to have it

That pattern looks kewl, will be interesting how you work that with the guard and handle to continue the theme or not :)

can u do a vid. where it's just making damascus with random pieses of steel u find around the shop. and u can only use same thing once!!

Check out Big Dog Forge, he uses a stainless tube with mild steel caps . They seem to weld together securely. It might be something to try.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good idea

@fighterx4133

3 жыл бұрын

Could tig weld it using 309 L wire. Its made specifically to weld mild steel to stainless.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

@@fighterx4133 good to know

I'm new here and glad I found this. So satisfying to watch. I'm curious and maybe there is a reason. Could you mix the 2 different size ball bearings? I think that would be cool

Turn down good look forward to seeing more cans

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm excited to make some more cans

Health to you from the Donbass, I recommend you to watch the channel shurap

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, yes I have watched some of his videos

Beautiful. Id love to see you make a tamascus blade. Supposedly super hard to do but they look insanely beautiful. New subscriber now for sure.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a neat idea. Thanks for watching and subscribing!

@traxion9285

3 жыл бұрын

I second this idea and love how detailed your explanations are

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

@@traxion9285 thanks!

Man that is wicked cool. Took every free minute i had since earlier this afternoon to watch it, but I enjoyed it. It's gunna be an amazing and beautiful tool....sadly, probably not mine. I'm going cry myself to sleep

@nateand3

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I'm kidding about the crying part....far as you know 🤔

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I won't tell anyone

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Nice pattern, should be an impressive knife when finished. Regards from down under.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, thanks for watching

Gidday mate, have you thought about warming your powdered steel in a pot to see if it flows better when putting it in the can.

Is this stainless steel foil the same type you’d use to heat treat? Knife came out amazing, by the way.

@FireCreekForge

2 жыл бұрын

Yep it is. Thanks!

Ahhh the pains of welding with an AC buzz box. 😂

I use white out and it works perfectly fine too

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Cool, yeah I just had the stainless foil scraps already so I used that this time

I'd be curious to see how you'd do on Forged In Fire

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I was on Season 6 Episode 8

@jeremys959

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge haven't seen that season yet, I will have to check it out

@trith72

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge Just went back and watched the episode, you kicked ass. Awesome work man!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

@@trith72 thanks!

Hey mate, as an old school Boilermaker (Ozzy not pommy) you could save yourself some grief with the capping if you just made the caps a couple of mills (say 40-50 thou) smaller than the widest section of your canister. Then you can get a nice neat (quick) corner-to-corner weld.

wow, nice

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@MrMarsBlades

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge did you make that press?

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMarsBlades yep!

@MrMarsBlades

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge I notice a lot of these builds have an awkward handle to raise up and down whilst holding the workpiece, why don't you have a foot pedal?

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMarsBlades haven't gotten around to building one yet..

Man that was just crazy to look at I love it !!!! What’s a blade like that cost ? Roughly, any one ?

Do you think that mixing the two sphere sizes would have mucked up the final product?

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you could mix and match bearing sizes

Nice work sir. That thing looks lizard like. Maybe dragon skin.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely reptilian, I hope..!

I watched Jason knight do this, he sandblasted the can inside and out then got some spray paint with titanium in it and the can came right off

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've seen that

@paulrobertson7980

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge you're method worked great too

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulrobertson7980 I had some me powder steel leakage from the ss wrap the way I did it, the paint method wouldn't have that problem so it’s probably better...

Titanium dioxide is the white pigment chemical. It completely blocks fusion between steels.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks

8:03 i like this part, idk why

Great !!!! //Lars

Makes you wonder how folks forged steel before power grinders and hammers

@warrmalaski8570

3 жыл бұрын

Power hammers replaced 9 hammer men with 5 to 8 lbs sledgehammers. Who worked in three-man shifts. When one team got tired the next team switched in. As for the power grinders, they were powered by wind, water, or treadmill.

If you made your own tubing with alternating 1095, 5n20 etc eliminating stripping the can off? Would it help with production? Would the time savings offset the cost of materials?

Have you tried the white out method to help separate the steel from the outside?

@FireCreekForge

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but I like using white spray paint now

Other people I see doing this will rinse the bearings in acetone to take away any oils

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

These were clean and dry.

Cannot wait to see what you do with the handle and guard to match such a great pattern. The hole you drilled allows air to escape?

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yep that's right

@robertblackburn1769

3 жыл бұрын

It allows air and gas to escape that way it doesn't explode

hey man! nice videos! about ball bearings in a canister..... keep the metal really hot.... they develop cracks otherwise... i've used big bearings for some knives and they tend to crack when underheated.... i do not know why.... maybe stresses from manufacturing? maybe those are the cracks you saw when drawing it out after taking of the canister... keep it up man!

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

That is a very nice pattern i wonder how hard it would be to do by hand.. I think if you kept the temp up higher when you were foirging on the press it would have not cracked like that. was prob cooling at a faster rate creating seperation at the extremitys of the stock.. Cheers Martin

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

This would be a challenge to do by hand, but possible I suppose. I tend to thing the cracks were evidence of slight voids in the can, as I kept it near a welding heat on all forging passes in the can.

In my experience if you just go ahead and work the billet with the jacket still on. The whole thing comes together a lot better far less inclusions. And the jacket comes away naturally admittedly I do use white out not the method you used but can’t see it being any different. Also when I put the cap on the canister I chuck it in the press before welding. That one thing alone has made a world of difference to the quality of the final product

You probably needed more heat for your initial forge weld...get that thing to a yellow heat and literally smoking hot when welding, and don't bother trying to close cold shuts unless you're at a welding heat or you'll just end up with inclusions. Looks like you had it just hot enough to get it welded but you would have had less to grind off and more good steel if you had it hotter for your weld. You can also paint the inside of your canister with liquid paper or a paint containing titanium oxide instead of lining it with stainless foil. Cool pattern and nice shape on the blade too.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I soaked the can for 15+ minutes, not sure why that happened..

@andyroo8592

3 жыл бұрын

@@FireCreekForge Sounds a bit full on but for cans they need a lot of time, the bulk of that steel looked good, it probably only needed another 5 minutes.

That's a pretty blade OwO

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

When you heat treated didnyoubtreat itbfor 52100 or the powder steel?

Damn, that beard is impressive. Now we're talking!

What if you're tube was a hardnable steel and maybe smaller diameter and stacked in a pattern so after squished you can cut tile's for a mosaic pattern?

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Worth a try I'm sure!

Titanium or Zinc oxides are commonly used as weld prevention.

A back massager and or a jigsaw will work to vibrate all that powdered steel down

Where did you get the steel powder with the Nickle content? I've made a similar pattern, but only had 1084 powder and 52100 ball bearings so the pattern did not have much contrast. Beautiful blade by the way. Thanks

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I got it from Jantz Supply, knifemaking dot com

you're missing the obligatory chilis and tea break....

@7:00 ...you'll wanna pre-drill a vent hole in each end-cap before welding the canister closed. Any moisture inside your materials could turn that canister into a "pipe-bomb", real fast! Safety first, gents!

I'm not a smith, but one thing i see a lot of videos of where people make mistakes is, i didn't see you clean your ball bearings. sometimes they have a rust inhibitor that can cause to delaminations in the weld. did you clean off the bearings off camera?

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

I see. These were clean and dry, everything went together fine. Good to know, different suppliers likely may ship on hem in different condition

I wonder what was up with all those inclusions in his canister weld, was it the alloys in the steel? Did he not allow it to soak long enough at a forge weld temperature? Beautiful blade though.

@FireCreekForge

3 жыл бұрын

I don't really know, I think perhaps the corners didn't get enough pressure during the weld since the can had rounded corners and my dies have sharp corners, leaving a small void between the dies and the can at the top and bottom corners.