"Piracy is service problem" as once wise man Gabe said.

@samuelt321

5 ай бұрын

Eh, so he isn't wise any more? 😛

@jimvonmoon

5 ай бұрын

Gabe can lock you out of your games at any moment. Steam is a rental service.

@jovialcupid9687

5 ай бұрын

so u own games u buy on steam? I know they are almost screaming that U PURCHASE THIS, to assure u about it but read their rules. U own shit there and this is not new. I just google it and u can find 2013 posts about steam stealing your stuff

@truenetgmx

5 ай бұрын

@@jimvonmoon yes, this is why most of my games are from gog.

@truenetgmx

5 ай бұрын

@@samuelt321 sorry, my inner yoda messed up word order :) my steamdeck is telling my he is still wise :P

These big companies have forgotten they aren't competing with each other, they're competing with piracy, and piracy has gotten extremely convenient.

@Those2menoverthere

5 ай бұрын

They’re competing with themselves (meaning like Netflix is competing with itself) because they themselves cause piracy (more-so). If these offer proper services it would be hardly an issue. For example, Netflix no longer allows the user to choose what quality to stream in, instead you get forced to some shitty 1080p stream with a horrible looking bitrate if you’re on a non-4K proprietary piece of hardware. I’ll keep the comment short, so that’s just one gripe about the service…

@Lowmandavis

5 ай бұрын

@@Those2menovertherehow is 1080p shitty?

@eightcoins4401

5 ай бұрын

I feel like they know that they can't defeat piracy. A billion dollar campaign against piracy happens to be a good taxwrite off though.

@GarageDinner

5 ай бұрын

​@@Lowmandavis ya, imagine living in an age where 1080p is considered shitty.

@vikiai4241

5 ай бұрын

@@Lowmandavis Probably not the resolution per-se but that the content has had the bits compressed out of it.

“And in the case of ‘Oppenheimer,’ we put a lot of care and attention into the Blu-ray version… and trying to translate the photography and the sound, putting that into the digital realm with a version you can buy and own at home and put on a shelf so *no evil streaming service can come steal it from you.”* - Christopher Nolan

@marcogenovesi8570

5 ай бұрын

Nolan has been on that train for a while

@swlak516

5 ай бұрын

LOVE Nolan.

@lasbrujazz

5 ай бұрын

@@marcogenovesi8570 yep, just wanna reiterate that physical copy is still superior than digital copy, be it a movie or a music album.

@ryanshea5221

5 ай бұрын

This just made me an immediate Christopher Nolan fan. I'd literally buy a blu ray copy just for that statement alone.

@lyianx

5 ай бұрын

I havent seen that movie.. but if that is true, then this makes me want to go and buy that blu-ray version of it.

I've always said that if "you don't hold it, you don't own it". But I'm going to have to add "If buying isn't owning, the piracy isn't stealing" into rotation.

@Valoric

5 ай бұрын

Yeah. That should be etched into a tablet.

@juanblanco7898

5 ай бұрын

Especially since it's more like "even if you hold it, you still don't own it" at this point.

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

@@juanblanco7898 The MAGIC of DRM, it bumfucks us all

This is why Physical media is starting to come back for a lot of people. We all wanted a long time ago to get things a la carte, but this is not how we wanted it. It also why piracy becoming a bigger thing AGAIN.

@JeffGeerling

5 ай бұрын

I honestly thought back when Steve Jobs announced DRM-free MP3s were for sale on iTunes, the rest of the media world would start to turn over too... But once he died, it seems like that whole concept got buried.

@GoldenAdhesive

5 ай бұрын

Digital is fine but you need to have full rights to download and use how you see fit

@edwardallenthree

5 ай бұрын

One other aspect: when my dad passed, his record collection became especially poignant to me.

@dave7244

5 ай бұрын

​@@JeffGeerling These companies have no-incentive to offer anything DRM free, so they won't. The majority of people don't care about the issues of digital ownership, preservation or consumer rights etc and they are fully aware of that.

@precumming

5 ай бұрын

I envy those who can use physical media. I am someone who this past year listened to 3'500 artist and many of which don't have physical media but if I were to buy an album from each I don't have over 35k spare. I listen to so many because every song has a limited number of listens (between 1 and 40, until I don't want to hear it again) so buying music just does not work for me no matter how much people who hate streaming services tell me to, my music experience is perfect for streaming. People who have Spotify just to listen to a few artists should just consider buying the music

Piracy already is and will continue to be the best Digital Archaeology tool. This tell us a lot about how we conduct our society.

@zyansheep

5 ай бұрын

Capitalism imirite

@o00nemesis00o

5 ай бұрын

@@zyansheep yeah the personal mp3 libraries of ordinary citizens were simply booming in feudalism, absolute monarchy, fascism and communism.

@ame72813

5 ай бұрын

​@@o00nemesis00oi still remember playing "top X hits to play while dying from the bubonic plague" in 1348.

@Simon-xi7lb

5 ай бұрын

​@@o00nemesis00ocapitalism stans are so bizarre 🤦‍♀️

@onechessdude

5 ай бұрын

@@o00nemesis00o Capitalism isn't a form of government, democracy is. Capitalism is an economic system. So you're comment is invalid.

Hey, Hey, remember when Sony put a root kit onto their CDs to try and stop piracy...

My wife and friends kept asking me for years why I still bought CD's/DVDs/Blu-Rays and even music off of Band Camp. Now while watching Studio Ghibli movies in the theater my wife had an Ah-ha moment and said we need to finish our blu-ray collection of Ghibli movies because she would hate for them to disappear off of Hbo Max or even Amazon where we own them digitally. More people are coming around. I find it funny as retail stores are removing physical media, which I feel is more of a move by studios to enforce digital renting of media versus buying physical. Some media I want was never released to physical media or for download. Time to build a bigger NAS and sail the seven seas.

@jimtekkit

4 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more, I still buy optical media copies if I find movies or music I like. There's a lot of sentiment out there that "optical media is old and should be dead already" with the assumption that any technology that isn't cutting-edge is somehow a curse on society. As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for. If optical media dies then the ownership of media dies with it. And everyone will be thrown into the streaming service hellscape of paid subscriptions, internet bandwidth limitations, content blocking, server shutdowns, link rot.....everything that destroys long-term media enjoyment.

Content licensing is my kryptonite, I live in a third world country and streaming services are just laughably bad. There is so much content its literally impossible to consume legally, piracy is very literally my only option.

@edwardallenthree

5 ай бұрын

Artist deserve to be paid, but not everyone should have to pay to enjoy the art. Michelangelo deserved to be paid, but I shouldn't have to pay to look at a photo of David. I believe in compensating artists, I do it to the best of my ability, but art is for everyone, it is timeless, and it belongs to the world.

@PanoptesDreams

5 ай бұрын

It used to be like that in my country because the US would give us their stuff YEARS later so the whole country felt like it was 10 years behind culturally/relevantly. It wasn't until high-speed internet became common-place that we started catching up and America realized they can't just keep giving us stuff 2+ years later because people were just pirating everything.

@Nebula-qq8sg

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRealNullcallerToothere’s a difference between legal and moral. There’s no “legally imo”. That said, I think the entire idea of copyright for over a hundred years, and after everyone who worked on something’s death is ridiculous. I also think pirating media that you didn’t have the funds to pay for/ weren’t gonna pay for in the first place is fine morally.

@k.chriscaldwell4141

5 ай бұрын

And the cost, too. Due to rigged x-rates, content can cost an arm and a leg in other countries.

@kendrakirai

5 ай бұрын

Hel, I live in CANADA, and the streaming landscape is a goddamn nightmare. We just straight up don’t have Hulu, for example. Never have, probably never will. HBO Max? Nope. The services we do have are hacked to bits library wise, and if the shows ARE available, they’re spread over three other services instead of just one. The list goes on.

it's easy to miss how many songs/movies/shows used to be available on the internet and have since disappeared if you *aren't* a datahoarder. if you have old stuff saved, or at least have references to older videos (especially Japanese ones), and try to find them again today, you'll quickly come to the depressing realization that "nothing is ever deleted off the internet" is dead. the best you can do is to put aside some disk space and seed.

@evilgremlin

5 ай бұрын

There are "archivist" groups on torrent trackers. There is a lot of stuff (shows, movies, books, press, music) that do not exist anywhere else at all. People digitize old records ot 16mm films and bunch of gazettes from 1880s they had layiing around. If some stuff gets "deleted from internet" - likely because it's not really worth keeping.

@hubertnnn

5 ай бұрын

"Where they burn books, they will also burn people." In modern times internet videos and music is what books were when this quote was made. The end in nigh.

@sihamhamda47

5 ай бұрын

Given various copyright strikes are still going against Internet Archive itself until now, it is become more important for everyone to unite and fight together in data preservation support, both locally and globally

@marcogenovesi8570

5 ай бұрын

That "nothing is ever deleted off the internet" has naver been true. Sites die off all the time. Where is your Myspace with the emo cringe images and soundtrack? GONE

@evilgremlin

5 ай бұрын

​@@marcogenovesi8570 cringe emo myspace is literally trash. But typical examples of such things are being documented and preserved.

This is why, in my opinion, once you buy something digitally, the company must give you the raw file without DRM. It's ridiculous how broken the digital ownership landscape is.

@xEqualsRandom

5 ай бұрын

Thankfully buying iTunes music does this (but sadly not iTunes movies)

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

The point of DRM was to prevent distribution, and yet it fails to do this job, only acting to end up harming the honest consumer every time now.

I get not being able to "officially" support piracy, but I get the impression that, "unofficially", you don't look down on people who do. And given your line of work, that's probably the best you can offer without getting squashed out of existence. As someone who has lost a *massive* amount of media over the years to companies shutting down, I work hard to preserve what I can, and do what I can to make sure creators get the value they are owed. Thanks for being awesome about this.

@Lee-wh3ht

5 ай бұрын

The reason I got the elgato capture card was to rip my own content, it lasts forever 😮 for 1 price

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

I honestly do the same. I keep backups of games that my friends online like to play in case the DRM or storefront screws em over. OFC it is a bit pointless, like with EA titles like Spore, which require EA servers with creatures to actually be playable

@Nordlicht05

5 ай бұрын

​@@JamesTDGI did buy a game recently on dvd. Man was I angry when the installer said... Activate on steam. I do not buy much games an often on Steam or play older stuff

@HappyBeezerStudios

5 ай бұрын

@@JamesTDG Spore is absolutely 100% playable offline. Won't get any synced creatures from other people or put your own in the cloud, but the game in all it's functionality works.

Louis Rossmann covered this issue on his channel as well. If you already paid for the content, then torrenting it isn't stealing, you're literally obtaining a copy of what you paid for. This is the utopia we live in: "you will own nothing and be happy".

@rikwisselink-bijker

5 ай бұрын

There was a Dutch court case years ago that concluded this. Even obtaining a copy from an 'evidently illegal source' was deemed the legal equivalent of a DVD rip. As long as you own a legally obtained copy and only use it for personal/home use, it's all totally fine. That is such a strong alignment between legally and morally right. It makes me proud to be Dutch. Now I just need to hope this doesn't get overturned (if it isn't already).

@hubertnnn

5 ай бұрын

@@rikwisselink-bijker As far as I know that verdict is not specifically Dutch, but its part of international copyrights system. You can always make or obtain a copy of something that you own, regardless of the source (even if source is illegal)

@KameraShy

5 ай бұрын

@@rikwisselink-bijker Since this is a very significant, far-reaching issue (and has really got people riled), I wonder if the EU government will get involved.

@marcogenovesi8570

5 ай бұрын

@@hubertnnn there is no such thing as "international copyright system"

@re4zoon

5 ай бұрын

@@rikwisselink-bijker my question here: how do you obtain a legal ownership of a netflix show? Your subscription is just renting, the show is not available anywhere else, so... You either lose access to it forever (let it be music, shows, etc) OR you pirate it illegally and watch it.

I often collect video games and I don’t like how digital ownership works for video games nowadays. I remember reading on reddit how some ubisoft users lost their games from their library for not logging in for a while. EA banned a player from all their games for saying one swear word on Apex Legend by mistake. And some games make you pay $60 and still need internet connection to play solo. If the server is down, you can’t play the game you bought.

@JeffGeerling

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, at least songs aren't programmed in a way that they can't be read out if Sony or WMG's server is offline! (Yet.)

@AntonioNoack

5 ай бұрын

​@@hillppari Please don't just post a link without any context. GOG is bad in regards to missing family sharing completely, Cyberpunk is good in regards to having no copy-protection (so my sister still could play it on her PC).

@jimster1111

5 ай бұрын

wait until they start using proprietary codecs where you have to maintain a subscription to playback that codec@@JeffGeerling

@whohan779

5 ай бұрын

@@AntonioNoack Dafuq did I just read? Afaik Steam doesn't let you play multiple instances of the same game (especially on multiple machines) no matter what (unless at most one is online & no bypassing is happening at least). It literally boots you out from all but the last opened when it notices. GoG literally doesn't require a login other than to purchase, download or for some multiplayer or progression. Literally the entirety of humankind can play any game an account owns simultaneously w/o cracking or illegally distributing (unless they suspect unlawful conduct & temporarily prevent downloading that is). How would you imagine family sharing working on GoG?

@AntonioNoack

5 ай бұрын

​@@whohan779 "unless at most one is online" That's fine with me. Only one family member can play that game at a certain time. "How would you imagine family sharing working on GoG?" I'd imagine it works like it does on Steam. Each account has their own saves.

100% correct on all fronts. Let's get this right, massive collections of 'Art' will disappear if we leave it to greedy, faceless corporations to manage for us. "If Buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing" ❤

Yeah, that's the thing, an artist can remove their songs from Spotify and Apple Music for various reasons, yet the listings stay there as if it's possible to get them again eventually or you have to move in another country to listen to them again... There is no difference between being unavailable for copyright reasons and being straight up removed, and that's just bad UX here, thanks to the large music labels, I guess.

@Saand1338

5 ай бұрын

As a mild counterpoint, straight up removing the listing isn't good UX either. Soundcloud does that, and when you've got thousands of songs saved it can be hard to remember the song/artist as all trace is removed. I'll listen to a playlist and notice when a song is *not* there, but not remember enough details to be able to find the song again. I've had to write custom software to track and archive my playlists there for when things disappear. Just in the last year alone I've had 4% of my library vanish.

@audguy

5 ай бұрын

Part of it is so you can call the record label and bitch them out.

@brennzzz

5 ай бұрын

I don't agree with this assessment. I think it's good UX that the listing stays in your collection-it's much better to communicate and show you what is missing than for you to get no notice something in your library is gone. It also lets you know why, so you can choose if you want to do something about it. If they just deleted it from your playlists, half the time people wouldn't even notice it missing at first, and then would have zero ways to figure out where it went when they do.

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

I've kept to downloading the music I like off of soundcloud, uploading it to my network, and playing it via winamp. It still whips the llama's ass@@Saand1338

Companies not understanding WHY people love streaming services is the most frustrating thing ever. I didn't get rid of my $100/month cable service to then get the equivalent with streaming services ... I got rid of a few services last year and started getting blurays and ripping them to put them on my jellyfin server. Best decision ever!

@Fractal_32

5 ай бұрын

Remember to make backups!

@joshuapatton675

5 ай бұрын

Are you a WKDU DJ?

@proxythe1337

5 ай бұрын

They know exactly why people like streaming services, they don't care. This-quarter profits are all that matters.

@spaceecks1793

5 ай бұрын

at first streaming services seemed like the future, but then big media got to them and ruined them completely

@ffc2632

5 ай бұрын

They do understand, its just that they want money

I want both. I want access and control of the things I buy (digital or otherwise), and I want spaceships to mars and more asteroid samples collected. Both I say!

@JeffGeerling

5 ай бұрын

Maybe spaceships will help us reach a planet where a couple media companies control like 99% of all media distribution! :D

@JPA66

5 ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerlingor better yet the government controls everything.

@LEGnewTube

5 ай бұрын

Hear hear!!

@clementpoon120

5 ай бұрын

i sail the high seas. i have countless backups of my personal legal music library and nobody can take it away from me

@mishkamcivor409

5 ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling honestly that sounds like what we have now? There aren't that many companies and the problem isn't the number of companies but the fact that they are driven by greed to the point they will not license any of their "intelectual property" to other streaming companies because they can make more money if they do it themselves

Imagine carrying a physical CD across the border and the customs/airport security says you can't take them out of your country

@20thCY

4 ай бұрын

"Oh sorry, your CD is region locked"

I've always pirated stuff I could never afford but these situations makes pirating such a more satisfying adventure

as a Norwegian I'm like "even if this isn't geo locking, I'm glad you're getting fucked too" I often find entire artists missing or individual tracks on albums etc just greyed out... and this isn't a new issue either.. even back in the 80s I remember the extreme discrimination on movies for example... often being years late. Sure it wasn't that impactful then since we didn't have the internet...but it was there. The selection on streaming services is vastly different.. not just for music but movies, tv series and books are affected too. Games less so as most consoles are not region locked anymore. It's not uncommon to find some tv series you want to buy, but I just find it in stores where "we don't ship to your region" pops up... and while over there you at least could see tv series in the iTunes.. tv series was never even available in mine for rent or purchase. So when I hear people in the "industry" complain about piracy, my only reaction is "fuck off"...

@jonragnarsson

5 ай бұрын

Remember Region Locking? And DVD players that only allowed switching regions a few times... Media companies really like to shoot themselves in the foot.

@marcogenovesi8570

5 ай бұрын

@@jonragnarsson I 'member. They think they are geniuses by demanding more money for a "regional exclusive", classic suit move

@pship855

5 ай бұрын

Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺 I feel your pain

@PrograError

5 ай бұрын

Agreed... It's even worse for legacy Japanese media... Especially those anime soundtrack from the older animes in the 2000s... Many are grey out like the video showed...

@olnnn

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, as a fellow Norwegian, it was kinda frustrating to get 24/7 bombed in your face about how awesome this new tv series or movie is that just came out is, that of course you don't get to watch yet because you don't live in the US so you have to wait for however many months until its released where you live. (Unless you pirated it of course) Thankfully it's not as bad these days here as it used to be but you still have to deal with a lot of geoblocking and availability on streaming services that vary widely depending on country (and VPNs don't really help all that much despite what all these youtube ads claim). Hell we can't even buy the Steam deck from Valve yet, only from grey marked imports... And I'm sure it's way worse if one is from a smaller country not in Europe.

I hit up thrift shops often for my physical media collection. 99¢ for a music album and $1.99 for a movie. It's cheaper than renting. Since I retain the physical copy after I rip it and put it in my Plex server, it gets me by any qualms about piracy. You just have to inspect each disk to make sure it's in playable condition.

@urbanknish

5 ай бұрын

And make sure the disc is actually in the case! :)

@lhpl

5 ай бұрын

In Denmark we have municipal recycling yards, you can bring anything, it'll get recycled (sold for scrap) or reused. You can also leave stuff for "immediate reuse", and take stuff from there as well. I have - completely for *free* !!! - built a fairly decent DVD collection over just a couple of years, a nice mix of old classics, more recent block-busters and award winners, and even a few not too common French art movies. I am sure we'll see a big war beteeen consumers and the film and music industry soon. We won the first battle, when compact cassette and VHS made recording possible, and mostly lost the digital battles, but with a few important victories. With their "services" they have secretly invaded the homes of us all, but now is the time to fight again. RIP in peace!

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

@@lhpl Honestly, the day they start suing the consumers is fast approaching, and it will be the optimal time to strike hard.

"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing" goes hard

Thank you for bringing more attention to this. Cory also pointed out that §1201 of the DMCA is "felony contempt of business model", which is how companies get away with it. This is a loophole that companies use to prevent uses of their product that they don't like: it criminalises working around any restriction they put on what you own. Don't live in the US? Doesn't matter. WIPO means we all get this law, whether we asked for it or not.

Recently went through a similar thing with Final Space, one of my favorite shows. It was removed from my Amazon library (where I paid for the whole show) and from streaming services, because Warner Bros decided to turn it into a tax write-off. Without a physical copy I wouldnt ever be able to legally watch that show again...

@NFMorley

5 ай бұрын

It's also getting yanked from international Netflix catalogues imminently (well UK + Europe at least I know of) for the same reasons... I appreciate they're not ownership in the same sense, but it's infinitely stupid that any tax system exists where it's more financially viable to simply destroy content than allow it to live on, even with a small level of continuing royalty payments.

@niosem

5 ай бұрын

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

@jovialcupid9687

5 ай бұрын

what was written when u bought this? Rent or buy? If buy then - at least in europe - u have full law to make copy of that. so just download it, u paid for this already

@MXTuber3000

5 ай бұрын

Not to mention shows that have had individual episodes pulled such as Workaholics.

@Neuzahnstein

5 ай бұрын

If a production get into tax write-off. Copyright should be vanished, because the compony dont want the production anyways.

Before even watching I know what this is about and honestly why TF does region locking even exist anymore

@piman13_71

5 ай бұрын

Eh ok I was slightly wrong but I just stopped supporting these services either by not watching or using P2P “resources”

@touma-san91

5 ай бұрын

Your question does have to do with this too though as lot of piracy also happens due to that idiotic region locking. They claim it that it's due to licensing contracts, but they are the ones making the damn contracts anyway. Same with games like Forza Horizon 3 for example. Can't obtain it at all anymore because some of the licensing deals ended.

@CheapBastard1988

5 ай бұрын

Region locking is still a thing because TV broadcasters buy licenses to broadcast certain franchises. If those franchises are already on Netflix everywhere on day one, those licences become worthless. So it's usually part of the agreement to not have a show available on a streaming service until it has been broadcasted at least once. And if a broadcaster in a region is the only one allowed to broadcast a certain show, but don't bother with broadcasting it, the show may never become available in that region. So basically, it's because media producers want to be paid over and over for the same product.

@gr-os4gd

5 ай бұрын

Because the corporations only want a "Global Economy" when it benefits them financially - for example, labor - else they're strict and militant protectionists.

@piman13_71

5 ай бұрын

@@CheapBastard1988 Yay dipping times 8 or so what a great system we live in.... also I agree with that user name :) lol

Another thing that's frustrating with streaming is gift giving. A friend was traveling and I wanted to get them some movies/shows that are set in the city they were traveling to. I ultimately gave up on the idea after much frustration, which sucked. I really miss physical media!

I used to work on DRM for a large tv streaming platform in the UK. It was infuriating the amount of ‘business requirements’ that just straight up made things worse for customers and made the system overall more complex than required. Funny thing is, these extra paywalled features ended up getting very little subscriptions. (Think cable companies charging for a second set top box in another room)

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

Lol, I remember my satelite provider forcing us to pay extra to record more things at once.

As long as a show has a DVD that can be bought, you might want to check with your local library. Most libraries these days have DVDs you can check out. What you do with them once you get them home is up to you though ;)

@JeffGeerling

5 ай бұрын

Well another thing I've done before is purchase bulk library extras-they offload the 2nd/3rd copies they buy after a few months/years (depending on the show's popularity), and you can get them for pennies on the dollar a lot of times!

@MrHack4never

5 ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling And if the disc stops behaving well, you could jump on to a legally grey website and grab a copy If anyone gets angry, just say that you are checking your own backup against a known good backup

@hubertnnn

5 ай бұрын

@@MrHack4never You can legally download any copyrighted content or make any copy for your own use (even from pirate sources) as long as you own a legal copy.

@lance_374

5 ай бұрын

You can possibly rip the content for a local backup, but you can’t download it legally, it must just be from your own copy. I’m no lawyer, that’s just what I heard about this. I’m also not against any of this necessarily, just correcting misinformation.

@lance_374

5 ай бұрын

I should add that this is in the U.S. If you live in a country that cares about consumer rights it is probably legal there.

Thanks Jeff for addressing this issue. It has been getting worse in the last couple of years. That made me decide to go to Plex and start buying CDs again and ripping them so they are "always" available for me. Also, it makes me much more selective on what spend my money. This seems to be the only alternative in this new "you don't own nothing" world we are living today.

@marcd6897

5 ай бұрын

💯

@tetsuo3k

5 ай бұрын

I hear that! When Google decided to shut down its near perfect Play Music service in favor of the astoundingly bad KZread Music, I saw that as a wake up call. Went right back to buying CDs and ripping them.

@samuelhoward

5 ай бұрын

I never really stopped caring about physical media personally. Some of the music I like simply cannot be streamed. That combined with streamable content being removed and it just makes sense to archive. To that end, I've got about 2TB of music alone in Plex plus associated content. This whole streaming deal just seems to wax worse in pursuit of profit.

Hey Jeff, I really love the fact that you raised this issue. I’ve been working on a (legal) solution to this problem. However, I find it pretty difficult to point my focus on the whole digital media enterprise as there are so many legal nuances that pretty much make the whole “purchasing digital media” go against any consumer. Jellyfin is good and Navidrome (for music) is even better and since I want to put my focus on creating an actual open source license manager I’d really love to hear what you might think of my idea if you ever want to have a small conversation about this topic

This is why I have 2043 CDs in my collection ATM. During the pandemic I realized that they way I was listening to music was terrible. Streaming Amazon Music through TV speakers is this what we have come to? We live in the day of Hi Def video but of low fi music with Bluetooth everything and low quality MP3s. I missed good sounding music. So I did research and I bought a good quality 2-Channel Amp, speakers, DAC, 5 disc CD changer and built a music streamer out of a Raspberry Pi 4 with a sperate hat and Volumio. I stream hi res music through Qobuz or flac files from my NAS(726GB worth) when I am feeling lazy. And break out the CDs in my 5 disc changer when I want to enjoy it more. I also have invested in a good portable headphone DAC and good in ear monitors to use with my phone when I am not home. Music and audio has now become a passion and hobby of mine. Be careful, it can become an expensive hobby very quickly.

We all know Jeff's guilty pleasure is Baby Shark do doo dooo doo do

I remember maybe a decade ago that the KLF discography wasn't available anywhere, so i had to go and buy a used CD of it all because the band decided they wanted to delete their WHOLE back catalog. God i hate streaming platforms.

@DJ-Daz

5 ай бұрын

That was an "artistic" decision, like burning the £1,000,000

@shanent5793

5 ай бұрын

So much for "Kopyright Liberation"

@framegrace1

5 ай бұрын

Well. KLF, what did you expect...

@eightcoins4401

5 ай бұрын

Alot of music would be lost media without piracy. Theres alot of punk, industrial and gothic that hasnt been repressed on cd or vinyl since more than 2 decades. None of it is on streaming either.

@dashcamandy2242

5 ай бұрын

OMG I just remembered I have the "Justified and Ancient" CD single in a desk drawer in my bedroom, and the cassette single in a box in my basement. "Mu Mu Land, Mu Mu Land, All bound for Mu Mu Land..."

I had that exact same issue with the original Chris Moyles’ parody album, so I found my old iPod that had all the songs, used some iPod-music-ripping software called sharepod and manually added it to my library on Apple Music. I honestly give up with streaming services and am probably buy a new denon amp or turntable.

I'm totally with you there Jeff. Over here in the UK the main subscription TV provider is Sky TV in their store they usually have the option that if you buy a movie in their store for a couple of extra pounds they will send you a bluray copy. Its a no frills copy with just the move and no extras, but at least you get to keep the copy.

the past couple of years I have been trying to get all my favourite shows on my plex server for this reason, I hate paying for multiple streaming services when they can remove my favourite show for whatever reason. I am glad you talked about this, and I want to see it get talked about more!

@fookingsog

5 ай бұрын

Have you tried PlexAmp for music???🤔

@AndrewGriffinSD

5 ай бұрын

I had a movie taken away. Am I spending an excessive amount of money to keep all my stuff? Probably. But fuck relying on streaming services, especially with how convenient Plex and similar media services have gotten.

@OrangeRAZ

5 ай бұрын

same thing here, except i also try to download anything i may watch that has already ended production, so that in case it disappears i can still have the opportunity to watch it

@audas

5 ай бұрын

Stop using plex then. Jelly Fin.

@fookingsog

5 ай бұрын

@audas huh? Read again what you just wrote. As far as I can tell, everyone in this immediate thread is FOR using PLEX Server. No mention of "for" or "against" "JellyFin" has been made in this immediate thread. Check the context!!!😬

And this is why I still buy CDs and Blu-rays and put the extracted content on my server. And it's not just streaming services pulling the content just because it suits them - sometimes the streamed version is not complete, or missing features, and for some artists there are no streaming options accessible to me (some SE Asian artists in my case).

Welcome to Australia Jeff 😊 Lots of content isn’t even available on any service - then they call us “the biggest pirates in the world” when all we want to do is watch or listen to their stuff 🤷‍♂️

Honestly this is why I still love physical media plus purchasing MP3s to download. I have complete control over my music still to this day. I use Media Monkey on all my devices and pay for the sync part so I can have them on my phone. Best thing I ever did period for my music.

I caught hints of this in other episodes, but I didnt realize how strongly you felt about all this. I thought I was just a crazy person getting old, but it seems more and more people are speaking out about this. There has to be a way to hold permanent ownership of media that is purchased and released within an entirely digital substrate. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

@HonoredMule

5 ай бұрын

This is definitely a situation where we the consumers can help each other. And if the "help" ends up overcorrecting and enabling some actual freeloaders? Well maybe the IP brokers will relearn appreciation for customers and the value we place on their imaginary product.

I wanted to expose my kids to music that my parents played when I was little. Johnny Cash, the Beatles, Elton John, Elvis, etc. And they loved it. I’d mix in their stuff too. When my kids and their friends would bicker in the back seat, I’d let it go for a bit, boys will be boys, but rather then yell at them to stop, I’d quietly change to Andrea Bocelli, singing opera arias. “Dad! What is this? It’s HORRIBLE! It makes our ears hurt!” So funny. I’d respond, “I’d rather listen to opera than bickering.” And then, one day, “Dad, play that Funicula song!” And that was the day I knew I’d accomplished something. Later, when they were older, Led Zeppelin, Boston, Pink Floyd. The Eagles - Seven Bridges Road. Everyone would sing.

@LewisDonofrio

5 ай бұрын

My 3 year old goes "ha, ha, ha, staying alive...."

@Gunstick

5 ай бұрын

indeed, there has been enough music produced until now that we don't need the media-less music productions of today.

@eightcoins4401

5 ай бұрын

​@@Gunstick Everyone I listen to still has phsyical releases for new releases, both CD and Vinyl usually. Some of them even basically run a website like mailorders worked back in the 80s and 90s. Just now its more acessible and safer than back then, so you don't easily get restricted to top 40s music that major labels demand you listen to. Its just the major labels trying to turn the most corporate and stale stuff in existance (aka the top 40s) into a live service. I wouldnt even know the names of the artists, considering I intentionally avoided listening to the radio for more than a decade by now. No point in that when I can listen to actually interesting music I like that is relatable to me instead.

I always tell my co-worker who only buys digital movies: you don't know those movies, you are just buying a license to view them.

With the exception of some game purchases, the only digital content that I pay for is music. DRM-free is the standard, and I feel reassured that my purchase can last in perpetuity so long as I take reasonable steps to maintain it. I'm living abroad now, and there are a ton of books and shows that I want to purchase, but the simple inability to easily transfer it out for back-ups or to use on other devices stops me. I've been screwed on digital purchases before. The exception for books is the occassional humblebundle that catches my eye.

@brennzzz

5 ай бұрын

It's not easy, but if you really want to own ebooks, a fair number of authors/publishers sell their ebooks without DRM. It will say so in the product description when you purchase. For example, a lot of TOR fantasy is sold without DRM, so your purchase gets you a .epub file that you can store wherever you like and can never be taken away from you. The product description will say something like, "At the Publisher's request, this title is being sold without Digital Rights Management Software (DRM) applied."

A service I used announced it would shutdown, and it would suck as I bought things on it. Then I found out a possible way to… have a local, drm free copy of the original files. I’m sad a service giving access to otherwise not available content has gone away, but as it was the only way to get said content legally? Not bothered by my workaround.

It’s also tough when you are paying for streaming services but struggle to find the content you want to watch. Some services like Netflix are notorious about NOT integrating fully with the set top box experience, so I can’t search for content that’s hosted by Netflix through my AppleTV search that covers literally all of my other apps.

@pauljefferies5837

5 ай бұрын

I use an app called JustWatch for cross-platform search. Do Apple maybe charge a fee to be included in their search? JustWatch include them so I can't see how other services couldn't.

I never switched to streaming services for my music. It sucks that I can't discover new songs as easily, but I'd rather have my library on demand rather than hope that I have a good signal and listen to my music.

@brennzzz

5 ай бұрын

For what it's worth, all streaming platforms have offline mode. You can download content to listen to without an internet connection.

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

Heh, I honestly just rely upon recommendations, pull up the artist's page, and if it is outside the 18th century copyright terms, I'll pirate the music, if it is less than 15 years and I'll consider seeing if there are any physicals being sold by the artist that I can rip, but chances are I'll opt to just find an unofficial upload and just download that. I ain't giving Michael Jackson's family a dime if I wanna listen to thriller just once

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

EHHHHHH, that is iffy at best. Louis Rossmann covered it in one of his videos before, where even though he DOWNLOADED THE FILE, because he had no internet in the middle of nowhere, he could not listen to it. @@brennzzz

"If I can't buy it, I can't steal it"

I am definitely looking more into hosting TV shows and movies I like in a NAS server in my home. Jeff, can you please do some more videos on backup? You made an excellent one two years ago but I (and I'm sure many others) would appreciate some more tutorials and how-tos around home lab backup and restore procedures whenever your video schedule/workload allows. Thanks as always :)

Yup, this is why I never "purchase" digital assets like movies and music. Unless they give you the raw file to keep. If you have to download their app to watch your purchased content. Then you don't own it. They can stop anytime and leave you hanging with no recourse. And likely says that in the TOS that they can stop providing you access at any time.

@JamesTDG

5 ай бұрын

They've done that to me before, and it shoved me down the path of piracy

when your streaming service disagree, it is time to sail the high sea

"Welcome to the party, Pal." As I found out in the late nineties when my wee one was of that age, Disney would pull things out of print for periods of time (driving the ebay market for their vids up) and then bring them back into print after a while. I'm sure that they're doing the same thing now, both with physical media as well as on-line "purchases", having burned people by pulling things from their Amazon library, as Rebecca found out back in 2012 when AMZN pulled her purchase of Puss in Boots from her library "due to licensing restrictions". As to music choices, yes, she did the usual kid music, although we steered her towards Muppet versions of things … and our morning commute music was one of the local college radio stations. She enjoyed head-banging to punk way back when. When it came time for her senior thesis in college, she chose Stravinsky. 🤘

Recently encountered a similar thing with KZread Music, but this one's bizzare. When I'm on wifi - all my playlists play as intended, but when I'm on mobile data, on the same phone, in the same app - more than 50% of songs are greyed out and unavailable. This doesn't happen on KZread app directly. And I've seen forum posts of people having the same issue on random phone brands as far back as 5+ years ago. KZread support has not responded.

@PrograError

5 ай бұрын

It could be that the music you have is just video. The official music version is a lot more reliable as access goes... Many of the video on YT music have some sort restrictions due to copyright or just plain usage restrictions.

@JanasV

5 ай бұрын

Nope. Every song has a separate "song" and "video" option when on wifi, and most just aren't available at all on data. Also, all of the same songs played as expected, in all playlists, up until a certain point when they didn't anymore.@@PrograError

It's interesting because i ripped my CD collection 15 years ago and have ALWAYS bought mp3 albums since then. I've completely ignored the music streaming trend even though this approach makes me a dinosaur. But even normies are discovering the downsides of a world where you don't have the content in your control.

@xeong5

5 ай бұрын

This man said mp3. If it's not flac or another lossless medium than your wasting your money and time.

Dude I think this is the first video that feels actually conversational. it feels relatable getting mad about shows not being available, songs being gone etc.

I have my own home server hosting my ripped movie collection but it's getting harder to purchase physical media. Best buy announced they are going to stop selling blu-rays, and many shows I watch aren't available on physical media. I'm in my mid 30's and have NEVER pirated content but as streaming services multiply, the costs rise and the content gets removed from here and added there... the high seas are calling pretty loud.

@swlak516

5 ай бұрын

(A friend of mine) Just stated pirating again for the first time in over 10 years… feels good! Get a VPN and join us!

Spot on! I would much prefer to pay monthly for access to all of my content and not have to host and manage a server and hardware, but nothing provides the content the way I want. So I, like you, host it myself on my NAS, and I couldn't be happier.

This is why among the digital stores for digital goods, i like GOG. They let you own the games you buy through them. Offline installers, rarely any drm, etc.

Thank you for speaking out on this. Media preservation is so important. I have been buying more physical media than ever lately.

Very much appreciate this measured response to the way things have gone. I recall way back when Netflix and KZread were starting to gain popularity people would say they would pay for streaming rather than pirate because it was more conveniently offered, but things have gone the other way again and accessing the content you want has gotten harder. I've been backing up my movies for over a decade and as I got good deals on the content I enjoy I gradually dropped streaming services that dropped the content I watched, now I'm down to some "free with ads" stuff and Crunchyroll (because anime on Blu-ray is unreasonably priced for seasons and movies prices stay high for too long, if they ever come down).

It's the interesting that you bring up music in the topic of enshittification of movies and TV shows. Piracy of music was a massive problem before Spotify showed how if you have all the content you want it one place people will be willing to pay for it. Netflix also discovered this when they offered their catalogue of films for streaming. Unfortunately Netflix failed to learn the lesson of Spotify and instead of broadening their library, they stopped hosting content people actually wanted and started creating their own (presumably because this was cheaper than buying licensing fees). As soon as other platforms started to fracture the market and more specifically, people actually started paying for multiple subscriptions, the course towards enshittification was set. Piracy is the only way this problem will get solved.

@RogerioPereiradaSilva77

5 ай бұрын

To be fair to Netflix, they jumped onto producing content themselves when they saw the writing on the wall. Once the large movie studios saw the profit margins Netflix was earning in the early days of streaming services, they decided they wanted a larger slice of that pie and decided to become streaming platforms themselves, pulling their content from Netflix' catalog. So what choice did they have? Plus, when Netflix begged to let them keep some of that stuff in the catalog - like "Friends" for instance - they had to pay large extortion fees in order to do so for a limited period. We should all be directing our anger towards those assholes at Disney and Warner Brothers instead...

@aspuzling

5 ай бұрын

@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 they could have done what Spotify did and give more of their profits to the rights holders to temp them away from building their own streaming platform. But yes to be fair to Spotify, they did the right thing to improve short term profits which is no more than we can expect in a capitalist system.

@RogerioPereiradaSilva77

5 ай бұрын

@@aspuzling Not sure that whatever monetary value Netflix would be willing to share would amount to much more than scraps from, say, Disney's perspective. Not even sure that there is such a thing as an actual number that would satisfy the appetite of that particular company! But just for the sake of the exercise, let's say you are the owner of the IP of both Star Wars and Marvel and you have the resources to host your own streaming platform; why on Earth would you share the profits coming from these IPs with someone else when you can keep everything in the house? And it is not like Netflix didn't try, is it? They paid the extortion fees to keep Friends in their catalog for another year and for all we know they fought to keep the rights for the Marvel TV shows that they produced themselves during their brief partnership with Marvel. One has to draw the line at some point.

@DavidCiani

5 ай бұрын

One of the big issues is *exclusive* licensing deals. From the pre-internet days, the Movie and TV producers historically had a culture of exclusive licensing deals as part of their distribution model. They'd license each piece of content to a single home video distributor, one cable network, syndicate to one local TV station per market, etc. (often a different one in each country). Before the feds told them to knock it off, the movie studios even owned their own theaters. Music never had that: they always sold their music through a assortment of distributors and distribution channels, like how most other products work, and didn't really care as long as they got paid for it.

I was here before the algorithm

@JeffGeerling

6 ай бұрын

but how?!

@hackerman.1337

5 ай бұрын

how?

@ki1lee23

5 ай бұрын

same

@danieltumaini7037

5 ай бұрын

"he who shall not be named"

@Shuhaib-jt9nq

5 ай бұрын

Member probably??

"I play Bluey and Baby Shark for my kids!" Me playing Rammstein and Opeth:

Last month, I spent some time in hospital. I took my mobile phone with me, on which I had something like 125 albums, most of them ripped from CDs but with a handful of purchased downloads, stored on the SD Card. I also downloaded the Spotify app so I could get at some favourite playlists on my account that I listen to on my laptop. After the surgery, to cheer myself up, I opened the Music Library on my SD card (phone) to listen to something.......not a single piece of music there. The entire Library, a week's worth plus of music that I've been carrying around and listening to for a good 10 years, has disappeared. I Deleted the Spotify app (since its addition was the only change I had made to my phone) but the Library is still missing. I am absolutely furious about it, but I have no idea what has happened nor who to contact!

We need strong user rights for digital content purchases. I like the "if buying isn't ownership statement" a lot.

I’ve been doing this but for film and TV series on Blu-Ray for a few months using MakeMKV + a Pioneer BDR-UD04 drive. One example is “The Martian” (2015) which I originally bought on iTunes but then it got removed. Plus the Blu-Ray releases often offer nice extras that streaming or digital purchase don’t. EDIT 0: Also some standup routines from Robin Williams etc. aren’t available anymore on Spotify. I wish they were. EDIT 1: At least some recent Star Trek shows do get Blu-Ray releases; like “Picard” and “Discovery”.

@JeffGeerling

5 ай бұрын

True, if you love the BTS stuff, the physical media is still the easiest (and sometimes only) way to see all that footage!

@alexlandherr

5 ай бұрын

And some films like “Apollo 11” (2019) don’t have a nice 4K Blu-Ray so I had to go sail the seven seas of piracy and burned my own copy with the Pioneer BDR-UD04.

Forget spaceships, I’ll just sail the high seas!

I fully support you on this Jef. The big companies stealing things you already paid for. They are the criminals here!

im not a huge pirate; i do like to own physical copies of media and so far i havent run into all that much that i straight up cannot get physically, but like, if theres something i want, ima go get it. sometimes that means spending 30£ to import a 15 year old DVD from overseas, sometimes that means sailing those seven seas myself.

I had a strange thing happen with a movie I had bought on iTunes. We went to watch it on the Apple TV but I couldn't see it, so I went through my purchased movies and found that it wasn't available any more because it had been replaced with a different edit. So I'd have to buy it again if I wanted to see it on the Apple TV. However with Apple, as it was still in my library, I could download a local copy of it and stream it from my computer to the Apple TV. Not an elegant solution but it's nice to know that the movie I paid for is still available....For now...

the reason i start recollecting movies, shows and music - i still enjoy streaming stuff (mainly music) for ease of use and to stumble upon stuff i didn't know... the xp - looking through your library in your shelf vs a display - is very different too.

It even gives me this message with music I downloaded the MP3 of, not even on the iTunes store!! At least I rarely use my old iPhone SE for playing music, but even still it's really annoying.

With my kids, it seems that the disapointments have taught them it's just not worth it. They don't listen to music and watch tv/movies like I did. And there's always another game to distract them. I don't listen or watch content like I use to. There's just too many hands trying to get into my pockets. I read alot and watch youtube (for now).

As for Ladybug music, it would be a shame if someone downloaded the 320meg APK file on to your computer, unzip'ed it (because the APK is just a zip file), and extracted all the MP3 files in the archive because they are not encrypted. Though that would only give access to Blue, Pink, Green, and Summer one collections (and some free songs too). It would also be a shame if someone decompiled the application and took a peek how it accesses the other collections. Don't to that, that would be very very naughty and santa wouldn't bring you any presents this year!

That is first class rant for the first world. I hope you somehow get access to the ladybug tunes your kids love .We are definitely at the mercy of big cooperations when it comes to these sort of issues

This is why I'm still as old schooler - I love to hold in hands album cover, what I just purchased and read lyrics while it's playing.. I can take out, even, old vinyls from countries, that didn't exist anymore and put them on player to enjoy.. 😂 And my daughter does the same..

Love it. You need a new channel "Cranky Jeff". You and louis rossnann have it right.

@JeffGeerling

5 ай бұрын

#rantmode

I think Louis Rossmann says we should all sail the high seas as the only correct thing to do. I only buy physical copies now, once I can no longer do that I'll be hoisting the jolly roger jk.

This is why I have all my music physically on SD card in my phone.

@kevinwong_2016

5 ай бұрын

But that kills my storage💀💀💀

I set up a jelly fin media server on the back of your recommendations and videos Jeff. Very rewarding project. I've become quite the data hoarder too this year. Thanks for your expertise

Dealing with Warner and UMG is a lot of work for streaming services. Some smaller labels like The Orchard are even worse. The only way anybody gets access is by having an agreement which can be almost instantly revoked from any/all markets by the label. They just need to push updated DDEX metadata to the service’s private API for labels. People don’t notice and don’t care … until they do LOL. But music on no-name labels is the most precarious. They randomly freak out and remove everything. Or make their own weird app. And obviously they didn’t hire a team of developers, so it’s always a sketchy situation with no hope of any real longevity for the pseudo-platform.

There;s a reason I have my own backup of music, locally, STORED. No stupid big boy dip corpo can mess with what I have, locally. Unless I get a ransonware attack, designated to my machine(s). Which are slim to nun.

And this is why I buy all my movies and music physically. Yes, I miss out on the last 3 seasons of Expanse, any Star Wars series and such... But short of someone coming in to my house and taking away the disks, I will always have access to it.

I JUST got into a band who’s music is available to stream everywhere, but not to buy anywhere. I found FLACs on a digital store but they won’t sell them to me in Canada or North America as a whole, but they will to my friend in Ireland. I’m just gonna get her to buy them all for me and pay her back, region licensing be darned. I’m not much of an audiophile but I am a preservationist, so having all the music I like in lossless is important to me. I’ve never subscribed to a streaming service because I’d rather own what I love so it can’t be pulled away from me at any point. Screw streaming, let us own our music and movies and whatnot.

I'd like to argue that some of the media disappearing is simply the end of contracts and business partnerships. The company has to remove it no matter what. But I do agree that it sucks that things are designed not to be owned but borrowed long term. I fear what will happen if Valve ever stops being a company and Steam ends service.

@JeffGeerling

5 ай бұрын

IMO they shouldn't be allowed to use the terms 'buy' or 'purchase' if they are loaning out content on the terms of a temporary contract. Instead you could either 'rent' or 'lease' content, maybe.

@Dreamshadow1977

5 ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling Yes!!! The fact that they don't use those terms is a form of Marketing 'Art'. It's subtle and insidious. It's likely buried in that EULA or Purchase Terms we never read.

@mikefarrington7141

5 ай бұрын

Such contracts should only restrict future sales, not content accessibility to those who have already purchased the content.

@megan_alnico

5 ай бұрын

I worry about that too since especially since Microsoft had a plan to buy Valve. Every time there's a sale I check out GOG to see if some game from my back library is super cheap. GOG purchases are DRM free.

@jonathanbuzzard1376

5 ай бұрын

If you are not going to be able to honor a paid for copy (rather than rented) then offering it is fraud.

I'm trying to transition back to buying physical media - the lack of ownership of something I pay money for is a huge concern.

Stuff like this is one of the big reasons I transitioned away from streaming and back to local digital music. My current setup is Music Assistant (an add-on to Home Assistant, well worth a look) connected to a NAS for home and some playlists synced to my phone for on the go. Bit more work but has made me connect with my music again and I'm not shelling out $$$/year in perpetuity to some billion-dollar corporation that's essentially just an interface. I probably spend more on music now but I try to buy from sources that give as much as possible to the artist like Bandcamp or directly if it's an option.

this is the first time I've seen this in music, but it isn't a new problem, its actually a really smart foresight from decades ago. Smart in a corporate way, not user-friendly way. Wayy back when, before streaming services, publishers would have to spend loads of money to get stuff distributed internationally. This was way more prominent in video content since there was a very limited amount of channels, but the effect was that if a publishing company or tv network wanted to get stuff out there they'd need to do it through a foreign broadcaster. These broadcasters drew up contracts which, particularly in television, specified exclusive distribution rights for their particular region. These contracts weren't specifically for television broadcasting, they foresaw that other means of broadcasting might be invented or even overtake conventional TV channels. Of course the companies wanting to get their stuff sold internationally signed these contracts because they worked well for them at the time, and as they continued to release content internationally they kept renewing these contracts. Then streaming services came around. But the exclusivity in the contracts was non specific, it included streaming services, and the companies who drew up the distribution contracts aren't going to drop that part as it would make them redundant. So lets say HBO wants to make a new show and they want to sell it in Germany. Whichever company they leased German channels from can step in and say "nah-ah, u signed this contract back in 1970 something that means we have to distribute that on our services, and we don't have a streaming service, so legally you can't put that show here" Its foreward thinking in the most bullshit way possible

Every newly minted MBA should have a permanent shock collar attached. Whenever the rest of us hit some kind of en-ification like this, or forced arbitration, or price increases, or unskippable ads, or whatever, we could hit a button to deliver shocks to the responsible parties.

Yeah..!!! This is a very serious problem...over worldwide....Here in INDIA also we encounter this notification saying "This song/content isn't available in your region/country....!!" Then why the heck you show the title...?? that seems like the song is available but when I try to play it ....the notification pops-up...🤷🏻‍♂

@JeffGeerling

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'd rather they don't tempt you by showing the song... then saying 'you can't actually listen to it, haha!'

this is why I always buy my music and movies, anything I cannot buy I pirate because I literally have no choice

Reasons I buy a lot of my favourite music and have mp3/WAVs on a hard drive:

if buying isn`t owning, piracy isn`t stealing i love that hehe

I'm at the point if the song, show or movie I want to see isn't available on physical media, I don't bother with it. Streaming used to be decent but with so many platforms and yet another subscription cost, forget it.

@dlewis9760

5 ай бұрын

There's a lot of people that will subscribe to a service for one show. And another for just 1 show. And..... What some people do is take the C'mons (1 month FREE!!!!!) and binge watch and then cancel. That seems more like work as opposed to entertainment. "I have to watch 20 episodes of this in the next 30 days and then make sure they don't tap my CC by the 15th of next month".

@sandmanxo

5 ай бұрын

@dlewis9760 Agreed. If I have to work to game the system and binge watch why bother.

I am a huge Owl House fan. It's only available in the UK via Disney Plus. I don't know if I will be able to show my children or grandchildren the show as I don't know if it will disappear. I'm nearly 24, I don't know if I will have kids, but I would love to have it saved on a disc, blu-ray, DVD, whatever, so that should I have children, I can share this amazing show with them. I can still show them things like the Tweenies, Balamory, Arthur, etc. because I have those on VHS (and plan to record them so I have them saved in case the VHS deck dies), but TOH? Amphibia? Shows I enjoy and have messages I would want them to see? Nope.

Excellent video as always, and I'd like to thank you for the proper subtitles, they are really really appreciated.

It's like these big companies are their own worst enemies.

@FlyingCIRCU175

5 ай бұрын

meanwhile they call seeders thieves when we steal nothing. Sod off, distributors -- we won't be stopped.

🏴‍☠️ If I want to I donate or buy their CD or their Manga or anime BD or DVD etc. To support the creator. Streaming is such a faff now, shit tone of shit shows on a service with their own agenda and rarely a good one.

In Sweden we have to pay a fee on top of the shelf price for all devices that can store multimedia. It's called "Private copy fee" that say going back to the artist. It's controlled by Copyswede a private union. It started back when we record radio to tapes but now it's if you can store a MP3 on the device you have to pay. You could see that I'm free to download any media company they represent.

Staying on topic of music, I am a hobbyist DJ, and a self-proclaimed audiophile. I have a decent enough gear to be able to recognize mp3 and FLAC/WAV (/other losless formats), plus DJing in some venues might require you to have the music bought, instead of "just having it". I used various software and sites to get my free losless music for ages (super convinient), but as I approached maturity and financial independence (not to say mental growth), I considered 2$ for a song a very good deal, since I liked the song, wanted to share it with people on friday night, and I supported the artist (other way than buying overpriced t-shirt). So I started buying music, but unfortunately, there are some artists that are just either stubborn to upload their music to platforms like Beatport or Juno (where you buy songs), or are just too small to be able to do that, and there is no other way of getting the song than either messaging them for permission and file, or just ripping the song from YT/SC/Spotify/whatever. Honestly, if you have no other way of getting the product, piracy is fine. If you already pay for the product but for whatever reason you don't/cannot own the thing, piracy is fine. If you are being restricted from that content, then piracy is fine. If you can get the media from legitimate sales platform, and you even considered paying for it, then just do that. If the price is to steep.. well, that's grey area that everyone has to evaluate on their own.