This is why I love Wolfwalkers. Not only are the construction lines and rough finished edges beautiful but they actually serve as a visual cue that reinforces the narrative and characterization. I LOVE WOLFWALKERS OML

@nairocamilo

3 ай бұрын

Oh, is the Wolfwalkers club over? I hope it is not I brought snacks!

@wind_scratch8387

3 ай бұрын

Indeed. Society has thick, clean lines while the wolves and the forest have sketchy lines, really a good visual way to hammer in how different they are. Plus I really like how in tense moments the lineart gets particularly sketchy.

@forsetimaster0689

3 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh other WolfWalkers fans?! I'm so happy people are finally talking about this masterpiece. In my opinion the best film ever made, and certainly the most beautiful non-Ghibli animated movie in existence.

@ipostanimation

3 ай бұрын

OH MY GOD I LOVE WOLF WALKERS SO MUCH I WISH I WAS A WOLF WALKER I WIISH I WAS A WOLF

@micahrobbins8353

3 ай бұрын

That movie was absolutely gorgeous. I just wish the plot details landed with me

I don't think I've ever seen your actual drawing style before, just your animations. The difference is drastic and I love it.

@frododododo

3 ай бұрын

Are some old and some newer?

as a traditional artist, i think i definitely needed to hear this

@starrynight1165

3 ай бұрын

yeah the anxiety that comes with trying to get perfect lines often makes my hand shakier lol

@eeveefennecfox

3 ай бұрын

I used to be a traditional artist but assholes at school kept ripping my drawings on purpose and throwing them away,so I switched to digital,can't rip my drawings now assholes XD but after I graduated high school,I did some traditional drawings,I don't do them very often though,but it's fine,I draw on paper when I want to

@tobigrantlbart

3 ай бұрын

Worst thing, I have this amazing confidence in my lines on paper, because I know I can't change them anyways I might as well have fun instead of worry, but digitally??? Don't make me do this!

@AliVe1234

3 ай бұрын

​@@eeveefennecfox wow, that's incredibly mean, I hope you're away from those awful people now

Oh my, I feel like this video was made for me directly. I gotta be more loose.

@huangyboy

3 ай бұрын

well well well, look who it is!

@csillagrulpaa530

3 ай бұрын

@@huangyboy I could say the same buddy. :D We're here to learn, aren't we?

@MrTheil

3 ай бұрын

God same here

Oh I feel this. I started out copying mlp, and wanted my lines to be uniform to the T. Bur then my friends had non uniform line art, and it blew my mind. Then I tried different brushes til I found my love. The ink pen / calligraphy pen and I never looked back.

Yeah I noticed that imperfect lines usually looked way better to me than "perfect" lines. So right now I'm trying to tone down my perfectionist tendencies when doing my lines, really makes things quick and easier.

@olestraumy3647

3 ай бұрын

I call those small imperfections the "soul" of the line. Be it changes in value, width, or over/undershooting the endpoint - it adds something that, say a flawless circle made with the circle tool/ruler, lacks. Heck, I've noticed that a lot of professional webtoon art often skip perfectly connecting the two lines that make up the nose in profile. From afar, you don't notice and even up close at 800% zoom it still fits.

I'm that person that goes for perfect lines all the time. I need to try this.

@AltKaxREAL

3 ай бұрын

perfect line-arters where y'all at? might try this as well :)

@JaneD127

3 ай бұрын

I always draw perfect line art, so I might also try it.

@CrystalPokeball

3 ай бұрын

@@AltKaxREAL It's really hard to let the imperfect line sit there. It's like it's staring me in the face.

@Jell_DoesStuff

3 ай бұрын

​@@AltKaxREAL here

@99temporal

Ай бұрын

Have you tried it, to give us an update?

i have ALWAYS been fascinated with anatomy, posing, perspective, conveying action or movement, and even shadows and color contrasting, but never, NEVER have i enjoyed lineart. this video has certainly helped me feel more confident in the "chicken scratch" style, as many professional artists ive seen have said its messy, ugly, and generally conveys self-consciousness or anxiety.

@SomeRandomEcho

3 ай бұрын

I was told that the chicken scratching was bad and you should have smooth, clean lineart, but yknow what? My art looks better with the chicken scratch. The imperfections are what make art- well, art!

@raccoonchild

3 ай бұрын

I vastly prefer sketchy art over everything else so I hate this narrative that sketchy lines are somehow inferior. It must make so many artists with appealing works feel insecure

@lambybunny7173

3 ай бұрын

@@raccoonchildit literally all depends on the style the artist themself is going for. Animations that use rigs? Probably would work better with clean and perfected line art over everything else! A drawing that's supposed to convey a lot of motion in one go? Sketchiness would add to that! It all depends, there's no such thing as a "better" way to go about art. It's all about intent!

@tealcat

Ай бұрын

To me, the problem with chicken scratch lineart was never about the lineart itself, but about how you make your strokes. The real problem is ONLY drawing with small strokes and going back and forth to make them (only using your hand/ moving only your fingers and maybe wrist to draw). This is very costly to your hands and really limits you. The better way to draw would be: being able to make both small strokes with your hands, but also bigger strokes with your entire arm, moving you elbow and shoulder as you draw. I often feel that the art teachers focus too much on the appearance of the chicken scratch lineart and don't get the real lesson across to their students. In a way, I think they might make the problem worse, cuz the students get to caught up in the appearance of the line and not so much about how that line is being made. Plus focusing in the appearance only makes you more insecure about you lines, when you need confidence to be able to make those big strokes without fear.

This really was a wake-up call to me! I was always so obsessed with getting the line art perfect that it left me with a headache! But I now realize that it doesn't matter as much as I thought it did.

@ZhiYing_Geroniny

11 күн бұрын

Same. For years, I want to perfect line as there is a lot of people saying why my line are sketchy but this video just told me to just get the work done like my favourite spacecraft slapped me out of my perfectionism side and remind me to get it done than perfect.

drew for about 2 years. Used to watch a lot of tutorials. Burned myself out. Stopped for almost 3 years. Recently am getting back into. Keep getting tutorials pop up on my feed and I absolutely ignore the shit out of them because I want it to be fun like it was when I started. This is the first piece of advice I have seen that has actually felt helpful in reclaiming my art journey. Thank you.

YES! YES!!! I remember spending hours all night trying to perfect my character's line art. Soon I came to the realization that that wasn't the most important part. It was the details, the shading, and whatnot. THOSE are what people look at. I still struggle with being perfect with my lines when I've barely gotten far enough into the drawing. But I'm getting better.

i just realized that since im a kid i never liked perfect lineart, i always loved sketches, i always loved messy drawings lol

as a traditional artist, I feel this in my soul. I'm trying to experiment with my style and atm I always really love my (cleaned up) sketches but don't like the inked versions as much... so I'm thinking I should just skip the lineart step and apply marker directly to the sketch

This is what I love, messy art that just looks good!

I'm definitely a perfectionist myself to the point that's it's become almost mentally damaging, so I really needed to hear that rn, thanks

Honestly, Thank you. I needed to hear someone actually saying this. I suffer a lot with perfectionism and that's something I'm actively trying to change. The first step is not to obsess over lineart and being okay with it not being flawless. This video was a great reassurance. 💖

Wow I feel called out. But I also got good at "perfect lineart" and it's so satisfying for me

ive always wondered why my line art doesnt attract much interest but now that i think about it, this video felt like you learned a simple skill which that can only do not really much but can drastically impact your art in a lifetime, so i say thanks to you making me unlock a newfound skill :3

I did two works recently for my job, one was a sketch cleaned up and perfected a little some details and for the other I decided to make very perfect lines. Guess what! the one which was a cleaned sketch looked better with the different line sizes and imperfections. Then, one week later you came up with this video... I wish you were here two weeks ago!

this is great advice. i used to spend 4 hours just on lineart because i kept obsessing over perfect lines😭since i spent so much time on the lines, i was not nearly good enough at colouring. its better to fix a drawing by colouring than fixing it by lines

I remember having the same realisation a few years ago. Since then, I've also been waaayy happier with my lineart, but also much faster. The idea of favouring quick and energetic drawing rather than slow and perfectionist seeped into other aspects of my art and now i'm really happy where my drawing style is.

Same right here. I used to spend hours doing lineart and one day I realised that when you add color, it doesn't matter. Been revelling in junky, messy lineart ever since.

The roughness made it beautiful

Sketchy art styles just look so cool and dynamic, I’m currently working on improving my art style to look like this and I already see some improvements. Moral of the story…Perfectionism is dangerous.

I actually did this when getting my art more ment for comics! Even made a brush for it so i could go even faster without it looking horrible. I really only care about line art on the eyes, mouth and reference sheets. The sketch and coloring to me should always have the most effort.

this is such amazing advice, i always worry about my lineart not being perfect enough even tho i still spend hours on it, i think i need to work on just letting it go and not overstress over absolute details who no one sees

i stopped creating art because i couldnt achieve straight lines no matter how hard i tried, this just made me realise how silly that was. i cant wait to start making art again now

This is great. I always struggled with line art and would spend like hours just to make it look exactly how I wanted it to. If I put in enough time, it would turn out well… But doing it was so incredibly BORING. So one day I just did what you mentioned in the video. I just altered the sketch layer until I thought it was good enough to color, and it did SO MUCH for me. I actually started having fun drawing again and could spend more time on aspects I actually liked doing like coloring and shading. I also think my art style improved because of it! I'm not saying it's bad to make perfect line art or perfect coloring, if that's what you want to do then go for it! But if there's an aspect you don't wanna do, you can just- not do it! That's the cool thing about art, it could be literally anything! There are no rules you have to follow! You don't even need skill, you can just slap anything onto a canvas and it WILL be art! The only thing you need to do to be an artist, is Create. ❤

im literally starting cleanup/line art for my capstone animated film and I see this...timing is impeccable

i sorta came to this conclusion myself a few months ago, but seeing this now has really reinforced that it's the right idea for me. since ive stopped worrying about perfect lines my art has just become so much better. i care less about perfection and more about just enjoying it, and that really makes it come across better. i think no matter what you do, as a general rule, people need to stop striving for perfection all of the time. imperfections make things real.

i love when sketching isnt clean but its the style yes

I’ve been trying to get better at art and I really struggle with line art bc I have shaky hands so it’s nice to see someone say it’s okay to not have perfect straight line art

I think this is the exact reason my traditional art always feels better than my digital

I think the struggle I have with perfect lines in my art is the fact that, no matter how hard I tried, I was never able to kill my perfectionism. "If it's not perfect, it's worthless." I KNEW it was a bad mentality to keep myself in, but I'd just keep telling myself that, and for the people that loved seeing my art, anything less than perfect was an insult to them, so the lines HAD to be perfect. I've still got a long way to go, and it's probably going to involve getting into a better headspace. I honestly feel like my art is better when the linework is sloppy, so, I REALLY just need to approach it with a different mentality, I think.

I needed to hear this. I already know it, but I still need to hear it frequently.

Coming back to the "There's perfections in imperfection" mindset, and I agree. While some styles do requires perfect lines, most of them don't

I LOVE sketches! They look so messy and I love that

hey, so i just found this video and i really connected with it. i came to the conclusion that clean lineart wasn't always the best choice for my art a while back; i used to spend hours and hours of my time making sure every line was perfect, but it just burned me out so much, i never bothered with making sure the pose, shading, colour, values, etc were any good. my art improved SO much when i started to just use the sketchy style in all of my art rather than just keeping it to the sketch layer!

I now see line art in a new light. thank you

"now i erase messiness off a sketch till its useable" This hit me... i started doing that and thought id just kinda lost some will to sketch well but now i realise id just kinda found a way to streamline my work, just hearing that actually helped a lot

I've also noticed that imperfect lines feels more natural than perfect lines. You can feel how the drawing was drawn and how it was expressed. From there on, I started doing just 2 sketches: first one being the core shape and skeleton and pose, second one for overall final shape and everything. I still separate sketches on what part they are like clothing, skin, small details, accessories, etc. but mostly just put them in 1 or 2 layers.

Alternative title: The curse of perfectionism I got it. And I actually feel accomplished, when I can surpress it for a change and get something done faster, while the slight messiness just doesn't matter. It feels easier for me to do something in higher quality, while it takes a lot more effort to go reasonably quick and dirty. But it certainly means, that I have a hard time finishing up projects. This video is so very right. Perfectionism doesn't only eat a lot of time, but also limits the personality of art. And this basically counts for any field, where anything artistic is created. I have this gripe with the movie industry for so long. Everything is ridiculously overprofessionalized, there is no soul in modern productions anymore. In the visuals, but also characters and story, everything needs to perfectly adhere to some script. Decades ago, actors could improvise, not every detail was written down and many things were just done as they come. It's the same story with movies, games and independent art projects: A simple and cheap project can be infinately more successful than a AAA project.

Learned this doing a small piece of concept art where i didn't want to put in much time, and solidified this practice when I realized my sketches always look better than my finished work. I've been experimenting with ways of doing messy lineart to find something I like since.

I have dyspraxia, which is a hand-eye coordination disability. This video really reassures me, thank you!

It also started to dawn to me that perfect linearts aren't always mandatory if when you see the full picture everything looks nice. I'm like not going over my lines as much as when I started digital art after seeing that people seemed to like my "messy" art-style, so I'm going now with it 😁

You uploaded this exactly when i was having a small marathon on your channel.

finally raw line art is making a come back

I spent a good several hours fussing over line art today and this was the video I needed to see.

Yes! I remember back when I used a lot less little lines and more big lines and trust me. If you compare them the newer art looks way more cleaner than I ever did before! So we can say we kinda had similar experiences lol.

This is one of the first thing I learn when I decided I wanna draw. If it look good, don't change it. Similar to "If it work, it's work" or "It's not a bug, it's a feature"

Wow! This is the best way anyone could’ve ever explained this, I’ve ALWAYS tried for perfection and smooth lines, but now I see that smooth lines aren’t always needed!

This has gotta be the best art tip video on the plant. Short sweet and straight to the point. And I’m gonna carry this advice with me for like, the rest of my life. Thank you!

Everyone needs to know the Pareto principle: 80% of the value comes from 20% of the work. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to figure out WHICH 20% of the work is going to give you that 80% of the value... and just stop doing most of the other work. This will make you fantastically productive, and where you would previously produce one piece at the limit of your ability, you will produce five pieces that are most of the way there. As you improve, the 20% of the possible value that you aren't getting into your work pushes farther and farther into things only other artists will ever notice anyway. Your customers, your clients, your followers on social media... they won't even see it. Even if you tell them it's there, half the time they can't tell the difference anyway. Plus a lot of the stuff you're really concerned about isn't important. I'm always really concerned about eyes, I want them to be striking and beautiful and detailed, but then in the final piece they're like... a quarter of an inch wide. I could just splooge a little light grey and make a dot in it. Nobody would care.

Just got randomly recommended this video, so glad I did! The video was a nicely produced, entertaining, and educational anecdote/lesson with an amazing artstyle (so surprising to see on an art channel amiright). Thank the KZread algorithm gods

I've had this exact same revelation a while back, though for me a lot of my art problems stemmed from small comments I heard over my life. Some negative, like 'your animals look too expressive' or 'that looks pretty anime', the latter of which made me frantically try to change things to not be that way, but I didn't know how and felt bad seeing good, comic-realistic art of humans. But one was a positive. "Your line art is so clean!" It was from a friend who asked me to collab as the line artist when making a gift for another friend. It was a compliment, but it made me feel like I shouldn't give up spending hours on perfect lines and, yes, S-5 on SAI. And though that was 6 years ago, I've only recently started allowing myself not to kill my enthusiasm by spending too long perfecting lines. It took me that long to get over the feeling that I was abandonging one of the only clear aspects I ever got praise for. I sadly don't have the confidence to take commissions so I treat art more as something for my friends and D&D, but I still like improving what I enjoy, it's just hard to commit to completing a piece when I have so many other things I could be doing and sketching was always more fun than the colouring struggle.

as someone who just started a new program and am struggling with perfectionism this is so nice… thank you

Ive been so nervous about getting into art. But this really has helps cause Ive definitely spent far far too long focusing on my lines.

This is such a lovely tip for many reasons. 1. It makes the creation process so much kinder on the artist and 2. I love how much life it pumps into each sketch. Another gem of a video Crowne.

Yep that's one of the reasons I dropped that style and started making a more sketchy or completely without lineart lol. I didn't know it was allowed to make those linearts for profesional work (thought it had to be either completely sketchy or perfectly clean), so thanks.

Love this type of art

I used to be obsessed with perfect lines too but now I just clean up my sketches till I'm happy! Messy lines lead to more expression! :D

Thanks for the reminder. I'll make sure to keep this in mind in the future. :)

The linework on the stuff I draw is absolute chaos, lol. More like a sketch, going over some important lines multiple times to make them thicker. I did drawing as a hobby, just pen sketching for a long time so I sort of carried that choas over into other stuff.

I finally feel validated!! I used to only draw with pencil and paper, so I embraced the "messy" effect of the graphite for my artstyle. But recently I've started transitioning to digital art, and I always felt frustrated when every single video on digital art advice said "lineart has to be clean", "don't make it exactly like your sketch or it'll look weird", "every line has to be done on one single stroke, don't do a scratchy effect". Each one of those advices were basically saying that my style was "wrong" for digital. But recently I've seen some beautiful digital illustrations, and when I zoomed them in, guess what? The lines embraced sketchiness and messyness! So I had to remind myself, and I'll remind any artist reading this: advices are good, but not for every single artist. We all have different styles and different objectives. A storyboard artist isn't going to use the same techniques as a book illustrator, an artist specializing on portraits doesn't have to focus on "how to draw better" tutorials when they're specifically for animators (despite the video not saying it, because that happens a lot), so on and so forth. If you ever feel like a certain art advice is only doing more harm than good for you, then ignore it. Make what you feel truly helps you.

I think the reason I was so obsessed with perfect lines is because I watched Solar Sand’s channel back when I was trying to improve. And he went on and on about messy line art so I internalized the idea that my line work had to be clean and perfect.

A tip video that goes straight to the point and isn't milked for over 10min? I thought it was not possible

HONESTLY. I get that. lmao When ever someone is getting into art I always tell them to not worry too much about it and I, myself, found myself enjoying art a lot better and generally just doing a lot better with it when I just stopped being so picky with the details. Heck, I barely even do line art anymore. lol Like, my PFP rn? I did a doodle and just slapped in rough colors and did shading to see how it'd look and I was happy with it and I just rolled with that cause this pic has become one of the pieces I am the most proud of.

thank you random commissioner for opening our eyes

Artists that finally realised that they're the only person who sees the imperfections? Never thought I'd see the day!

this video is so motivating, i stress out so much over my line art, but my drawings always look better when it's sketched/chicken scratched with more detail between the lines. thank you so much!!

ive spent alot of time hearing "your lineart should be perfect" having ti drilled into my head, but honestly i feel in love with my own style. I my lines are very sketch heavy which i feel adds a bit to the fuzzy appearance of my characters. in short. yeah, lines can be as perfect or as unclean as you want them to be

Thank you. I have cerebral palsy and I always feel so insecure about my shaky lines. I recently moved to an art programs that more closely mimics the traditional art I'm used to, and I like that better.

This. I went through the same journey. I'm still trying to get rid of the last bit of line perfection but "messy" lines can provide such nice texture and interest that just doesn't look right when done too perfect.

You will forever be an inspiration, Crowne.

THIS. This video saved my life.

As a designer, I REQUIRE PERFECT LINES.

I’m obsessed with perfect lines

As someone who's actually really really trying at making the lineart perfect for the first time recently. The fact that this video popped up in my feed to today is near insulting XD

This is something I've really needed to figure out. I am piss poor at perfect line-art, but I'm never confident with sketchy-ness

I'm gonna have to start doing this when I eventually get back into drawing. One of my biggest frustrations was the constant undoing and stroking to try and get a perfectly sharp, smooth line.

I stopped the perfect line art stuff recently and I’ve improved greatly! I like looking at posters and other stuff and noting how it isn’t perfect! It’s helped a lot!

I LOVE rough line art, I've been so focused on trying to make the lines perfect and smooth since alot of people did it and seemed popular. So... im gonna try making my lines rough again ^^

So the trick is to chill out. Got it.

Oh the pain I would give myself when I would take hours relining EVERYTHING after a sketch. Trying to make things perfect, breaking my hand to make sure it was. But one day, I truthfully just got lazy on a experimental piece, and just went with the sketch and adjusted it from that. It ended up being one of my favorite pictures I've ever drawn. And it blew my mind, since the lines were so sloppy, but like you said, unless you zoomed in, you couldn't tell. It's just crazy how much personality you can imbue into a piece, perfect lines or not!

Honestly my digital art started feeling a lot more expressive when I stopped doing the proper 'inking' phase and started just refining the doodle instead. This is actually closer to what you usually do on paper in pencil anyway and it helps retain that energy and interest. Anyway I notice this with markers too, my inking with markers can never quite match the raw vibes of a pencil drawing.

as someone current in the perfect lineart stage.......gonna give this a shot!

I just started my first digital drawing where I firmly told myself at the start "SELF, NO PERFECT LINE ART!" and of course, of COURSE I love it. Thank you for making this amazing video and making sure we ALL KNOW IT. 🥰

The day I gave up on clean lines was the day I switched from a "What would an industry animator do?" to a "What would I draw in my notebook?" mentality. Basically don't let perfect overdrive your creative expression.

THIS IS LITERALLY HOW MY ART IS i cannot imagine drawing anything else that hasnt a rough sloppy sketchbook-esque line look i roughly trace out lines (i mean like, lazy back and forth like you would a sketch) then keep it as that i LOVE rough sketching!

THIS!!! SO MUCH THIS!!! I've totally dropped clean line art. Noooot worth

Getting the perfect line art used to be the bane of my existence in digital. My hands are shaky and I have a natural predisposition for certain kind of 'organic' imperfectionism. Some time ago I figured out my favourite way of painting: sketch - colour under - render AND line art together on top. Use as few layers as possible. Embrace mistakes/mark-making like in traditional art. I sculpt my line art basically and the process has never been so easy and enjoyable, and the results are better and more representative of my creative voice too. I guess this is also why I ended up not enjoying animating as much as I thought I would - the process of clean-up and getting those lines right and clean just made me suffer lol.

Feels good to know I’m not the only one who just erases parts of a sketch until it’s “clean enough.” I like my art to look rougher, but since I’m still a beginner, and see people constantly do a sketch _and then_ line art, I was having some self doubts. 😅

I am gonna try this. Refining and lining a sketch

been working in a rough line method for a while now, i treat it more like sculpting now, even erasing opacity in areas to simulate light etc and it feels wonderful, really brings that handmade feeling back to the art. I've also found then setting it to a lower opacity and multiply to look wonderful with the colors underneath.

Thank you for this! I always felt insecure about my line art never looking “perfect” but this puts things into a whole new perspective!!

Recently I rewatched Disney's John Henry short, and realized that the style was so striking because of their use of sketchy lines and not fully erasing construction lines. Just like this video said, there was way more focus put towards framing, lighting, posing and everything else, and the rough line work only gave it more character. Very good video that I think many artists can benefit from

I use expressionalist artist strokes in my art. And people seem to enjoy that a ton more over my clean art. It carries more emotion than the typical clean art.

Yes i have been talking about this for ages

I recently got rid of my lineart all together a few months ago, and now I am planning to reincorporate it, I am a traditional artist, so I used to use fine liners to get my lines done, but now I want to replace them with sumi ink done with a chinese calligraphy brush, and hearing now that it doesn't have to be perfect, and in fact that perfection makes it better, makes me feel a lot better about this decision

oh my god you don’t understand how much I needed this video I always hated how I couldn’t draw perfect lineart but now I realize that it doesn’t even matter that much