Forensic Speak: How To Write Realistic Crime Dramas -Jennifer Dornbush [FULL INTERVIEW]

0:00 - This Is Why Crime Drama Is One Of The Most Popular Genres In The World
11:06 - What Makes A Great Crime Story
22:52 - How To Write A Better True Crime Story
38:59 - First Steps To Writing A True Crime Drama
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1:02:21 - The #1 Rule To Writing A Crime Story
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1:35:58 - Writers Should Focus On Series Not Single Stories
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She has been teaching and script consulting since 1997 and regularly leads seminars and workshops on screenwriting basics, writing for Hollywood, crime fiction, forensics, death investigation, and the creative life.
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  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage6 ай бұрын

    What is your favorite crime drama?

  • @ryanhowell4492

    @ryanhowell4492

    6 ай бұрын

    Lethal Weapon

  • @historyandhorseplaying7374

    @historyandhorseplaying7374

    6 ай бұрын

    My favorite is old Columbo episodes. Not due to realism-- it was just as unrealistic and silly as anything modern (in fact it never really pretended to be realistic), but because its protagonist was so fun to watch and listen to. On the other hand, most modern crime shows are completely unrealistic AND the protagonists are blah and meh. X Files kind of fit into the better mold-- totally unrealistic and silly (both in subject matter and procedurally) but its protagonists were fun to watch. The Shield came closest to being both procedurally realistic and characters fun to watch.

  • @iOnRX9

    @iOnRX9

    6 ай бұрын

    columbo, murder she wrote

  • @mickeyaugrec7560

    @mickeyaugrec7560

    6 ай бұрын

    Chinatown - though that's a Thriller. Body Heat. Those are ~Old School. Too many great ones to pick favorite...

  • @moritzrathmann2529

    @moritzrathmann2529

    3 ай бұрын

    city of god

  • @lacolem1
    @lacolem16 ай бұрын

    True Detective season 1 and The Wire are my high bar.

  • @summoner2100
    @summoner21006 ай бұрын

    good interview

  • @Wordsley
    @Wordsley6 ай бұрын

    These Rock!

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage6 ай бұрын

    What is something new that you learned from this interview?

  • @blu-young-enterprise

    @blu-young-enterprise

    6 ай бұрын

    I have learned that my screenplay, based on 6 years research on a true event is spot on. Not only in being true to police procedure or correct in story line but it conforms to the requirements of a cost effective and quality screenplay. Even then, to get it to a co-producer would mean more than all the work done so far. 😮

  • @kaiwenlidirector
    @kaiwenlidirector5 ай бұрын

    The key ingredients are mom, opportunity, motivation…

  • @Doggieworld3Show
    @Doggieworld3Show6 ай бұрын

    I keep getting my stuff deleted. Why do we like Crime drama: We like guessing, we like locking fools up, we like death apparently, we like putting pieces together. we liek questioning.

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage6 ай бұрын

    How do define the crime drama genre?

  • @aryanchettiar2040

    @aryanchettiar2040

    6 ай бұрын

    A crime happens and the crime is investigated by cops or directives who are the main protagonist and they find the person behind the crime. In this genre the main thing, according to me , is needed, a surprising twist

  • @5Gburn

    @5Gburn

    6 ай бұрын

    Crime dramas are heists in reverse.

  • @capuchinosofia4771

    @capuchinosofia4771

    6 ай бұрын

    *crime happens *investigation happens *conflic revolves around the revelations from the investigation *crime is resolved succesfully or not. (Bitter, sweet or bittersweet ending) I also think my particular enjoyment comes from figuring things out along the protagonist/through the film/book/etc, but not in a condensending/obvious manner. Not necesarilly a crime movie, but Anna (2019) did a good job of presenting micro mysteries and showing the thought behind them, while also not ruining the mystery by throwing some other twists on top. I think some explaining through the duration of the story (not only at the end when the crime/mrder/mystery is solved) is great. That way you are including the audience in the investigation like: "here are some clues and what we know, this is what we think, what do *you* think?"

  • @historyandhorseplaying7374
    @historyandhorseplaying73746 ай бұрын

    As I wrote elsewhere, as someone who served as a police Detective myself, I can tell you that the vast majority of crime TV shows (especially the most popular ones) are absolute bunk, silly, unrealistic, and unwatchable. My family members make me leave the room when The Rookie or Bones or Criminal Minds or NCIS etc come on because I start picking them apart lol. So if you have no law enforcement experience, please please consult with someone who does or your show's audience is going to be everyone but LEO's. Off the top of my head, the most realistic show was The Shield, not because the main character's illegality was realistic but the interactions/conversations between officers was spot on, as were the politics of the office. Some old NYPD Blue wasn't bad. But I can't think of anything recent that's convincing.

  • @summoner2100

    @summoner2100

    6 ай бұрын

    But that's where the shows are adaptations and BASED on police procedures. They aren't supposed to be a direct correlation, they are supposed to be entertainment. If you're judging it on anything realistic, then YOU are doing it wrong. You can still have\use realistic parts, but it's entertainment not realism. That's how it's designed.

  • @historyandhorseplaying7374

    @historyandhorseplaying7374

    6 ай бұрын

    @@summoner2100 That's easy to say, until you are a member of the profession being portrayed. Then, if it is unrealistic, it becomes unwatchable. Same with military/war movies. If you have American troops speaking French and German troops speaking Spanish, or WW2 troops carrying flintlock muskets and Medieval knights carrying laser-blasters, it becomes unwatchable to military guys. Or if you are claiming to portray doctors in a medical drama, but you have a character say "He's having a heart attack, so we need to operate on his spleen" or "He stubbed his toe, so we need to give him a vasectomy", you are going to turn off doctors and nurses. (Along those lines, many actual doctors and nurses praised Scrubs because they did a TREMEMNDOUS amount of research and had actual doctors as consultants, so at least the PROCEDURES and the medical conversations were believable). Another example of a movie that did not consult experts AT ALL, or ignored them, was Napoleon-- even the trailer was obviously historically incorrect, so it turned off any history buffs in their potential audience-- and did poorly. There's a difference between a TV show being jokey and poking humor at a profession, it's quite another to make a show or movie that is supposed to be SERIOUS, but getting almost everything incorrect technically. It screams "I just didn't really care enough about portraying your profession accurately to take the time to check out if any of what I'm putting out there makes sense or is accurate".

  • @summoner2100

    @summoner2100

    6 ай бұрын

    @@historyandhorseplaying7374 Yeah, no it's not easy to say... I work in IT. EVERY television show has IT, the ones that are specific IT shows are the worst for being realistic. But I know that it's made for entertainment. So I don't nitpick, or I do it with a laughing tone because it's NOT supposed to be realistic. It's designed for shock, urgency, etc. You're examples are not even close to being the same things. No one would be comparing a heart to a spleen for an issue. Otherwise it would be the worst show, and NO ONE would be watching it at all and it would be cancelled. And I know people in the medical fields that have issues with medical shows.. but again, we know it's NOT supposed to be real and pretending it is just makes you look ridiculous more than it makes the show ridiculous.

  • @summoner2100

    @summoner2100

    6 ай бұрын

    @@historyandhorseplaying7374 there is also a WIDELY different thing between television and movies when it comes to realism. Napoleon is, again, different because it's about an actual person from history where (most) of his history is known.. of course it should be accurate and it looks bad when it's not. False equivalency

  • @5Gburn

    @5Gburn

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@historyandhorseplaying7374There's an episode of House where Dr. House is freaking out over some pill or other, and he's absolutely convinced that the pharmacy mixed up his prescription. He goes through the medicines in the pharmacy until he finds the pill that caused the patient's demise. He slides down to the floor, relief washing over him. Problem is, he could've reached over to his office bookshelf and popped open the Physician's Desk Reference, solving the mystery in two minutes. No drama 😂 Ah, Bones. Just so many things. I ignored them but it was reallky, reaaalllly hard.

  • @ryanhowell4492
    @ryanhowell44926 ай бұрын

    cool

  • @WiLyO8
    @WiLyO86 ай бұрын

  • @NA86737
    @NA867376 ай бұрын

    You are limiting the crime drama to the god awful procedurals and mysteries.

  • @filmcourage

    @filmcourage

    6 ай бұрын

    How do define the crime drama genre?

  • @Doggieworld3Show

    @Doggieworld3Show

    6 ай бұрын

    There is usually a detective (or the like) involved. Otherwise, it's just crime/death/murder.

  • @DZ60
    @DZ606 ай бұрын

    There are no rules