Bring back the old 2.0 pinto engines. You could replace the cam belt with a 10mm and a 13mm. Even if it broke as they were non interference. Plenty of room and takes about 30 minutes! Everything is over complicated these days!

@markbrennan4693

2 ай бұрын

Agree with you. They did have a bit of a problem with the cam. oil spray bars getting blocked , but still great engine. No excuse for the fact a 2 litre Pinto made 100 bhp same as the basic 1.0 ecoboost. Motor bikes have been making massive power from a 1000 cc engine for years without issues. Ford and most makers are just the same as fridges and washing machines, limited life span.

@dean6125

2 ай бұрын

Yeh had a capri had todo belt on mine and eventually head gasket. These new engines more efficient just more cost saving going on now 😢

@dean6125

2 ай бұрын

Bring back the oil pressure gauge!

@nihonkokusai

2 ай бұрын

Its.in the diagnose these days

@dean6125

2 ай бұрын

Re: oil pressure gauge. Do miss this as (had one on capri laser) you could see it drop over time and go back up after a filter and oil change. So if you had one on an ecoboost you could do some diagnostics if problems were building

You made that look easier then the job is, having mine done next week 58000 miles done, costing a lot but not paid any road tax on it for 5 years since brought it, so that will go towards it. If i tried to sell it wont get much if this has not been done and i do like the car great on fuel, fingers cross it all goes well.

@propanbutan4634

Ай бұрын

how you paid for the job?

@peteiswriteingnow

Ай бұрын

@@propanbutan4634 How with my money of cause.

@propanbutan4634

Ай бұрын

@@peteiswriteingnow sorry how much

@peteiswriteingnow

Ай бұрын

@@propanbutan4634 £1650 at main dealer but like I said saved over £1000 not paying any road tax and normal not wet belt change is about £400 and I had a new water pump included in that because it is worth it at the same time , seems to be fine since I got it back, probably hang on to it 2or 3 years time I get rid won't be more then 70000 on the clock and iv got bill to show its been done.

Wet belt is probably most idiotic stroke of genius, just got this done at shop and now i know why i had to pay 1850€.

@kena658

Ай бұрын

Got a 1015e bill here, such differences...

@benchmark3332

Ай бұрын

Ford keeps shafting people and people like that, they keep buying Fords.

@DaveFinch435

Ай бұрын

Only every 8 years or 80k miles though, great car and engine.

Great job Baz, did my boys car the other month and didnt enjoy it!. We didnt have a torque multiplier so did the crank bolt upto 300NM plus 90deg as per the Haynes manual. I think 300NM is probably enough, that extra 90deg makes it seem like something is gonna break. Great channel, nice and down to earth 👍👍

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

Ye stupid tight, it goes against everything that you feel is tight 😂😂😂

@dean6125

2 ай бұрын

300nm yeh beast. Need a bigger torque wrench. I got a 16 focus and daughter an 18 fiesta.

I was ready to buy a Honda Civic 1.0 vtech. It turns out it has the same wet belt, and thus the same problems. I think I’m better off with the Mazda 6 2.0 Skyactive. It’s a proper engine without turbo. Thank god I found out about the problems first……..

great videomy wifes Vauxhall 1.2 grandland had only done less than 30,000 miles

Great video Baz, these wet belts are just a pain! Haven't done the Ford one yet but recently did a 2019 Vauxhall Crossland X 1.2 petrol engine (the PSA marked up as Citroen) apart from some of the geography around the timing case end (that Ford on in your video gives better access for a bit more work, swings and roundabouts eh!) The sump on the PSA engine is a pressed steel and mine was on for life, god knows what with, nearly destroyed it getting it off, got one off ebay. Interesting on the Ford that you didn't have to take the camshaft gear wheels off, the PSA one you do, (think this is from 2018 on, earlier ones might be different?). That crankshaft bolt was 50N + 180deg so tight! If you do the PSA engine watch out for the poor crankshaft locking arrangement. The locking kit bits for the camshaft are really good but the flywheel locking tool is a pin about 6 or 7mm dia and doesn't go into a proper hole, it is like a raised folded steel piece which you can see through an aperture, very dodgy indeed. This is the only lock for the crankshaft. I was concerned that the pin would jump out when exerting real torque on the crankshaft pulley bolt so I made a secondary tool that pressed on the back of the provided tool and the additional one provides direct horizontal support. Let me know if you have an opinion on this or have experienced it. I have a Ford wet belt to do and your video has been most valuable in preparation. Thank you so much.

“Simple as that” wonderful understatement..

Great video. Keep on posting 🥳😃

I’m planning on getting mine done, 96,600 miles. I was planning on it anyway then last week the clutch was replaced. I must say though that although I was unsure about the wet belt when I first bought a Fiesta with this engine I’ve not had any problems with that new or this nearly new car. I cannot now afford a new or nearly new now but once the job is done then, provided I continue to have it correctly serviced, I’m sure I will get many more thousand miles from this engine.

Same problems with the 1.2 Puretech. For years your told not to get coolant or oil on the belt then they bring this crap out. IMO inside engine should be chain. 🙂

@chrispop99

3 ай бұрын

Some of the latest EcoBoost engines are now, at least for timing.

Great video !! 🙂 perfectly done. 🙂

My 2017 Honda Civic with the 1.0 engine has been re-called because of this problem too. I had the work done yesterday, apparently its a £1700+ job (no charge to me) which is crazy for a cam belt change.

@joehyde9176

Ай бұрын

My Civic 1.0 turbo has just died due to the wet belt particles damaging the turbo and head at 55k...very disappointed as I'd not had a recall. Now getting a recon engine fitted (with new belt) for £3500. Terrible design.

Thanks, Baz - brilliant job. Do the 1084 cc non turbo engines have the same cambelt and oil drive belt setup?

What a performance i won't be buying 1 of these got a suzuki swift 152,000 miles no hassle

Nice job mate 👍 very good 😅

Wow, such a loooong job, I guess it's quite a time consuming task so I shiver to think how much it would cost 😮 not looking forward to mine(56000) but what are the tell tale signs that lead you to taking the car to the garage😮 great job, thanks

Nice 1 Baz

Nice work how much should a person pay for such a job approximately cheers

Hi my cam locking tools are differant to yours is this a later fox engine with no flats and bar code to line up on the cams

Baz Got this exact problem now April Where are you based and whats a rough cost. Thanks in advance

Fun to see you using the tool now, stupidky tight, 70 with hand, 60 on the converter and then 5x 90... just sick.. Did you ever had problems doing them by hand? Got one planned for easter.. and i dont want to buy the tool for 1 or 2 cars

My fiesta is on 75k miles 67 plate been serviced and had fresh oil every year by ford since new would you recommend i got it changed?

Brilliant video , got one for family to do , cant say no . Do u think vvti oil valve and feed be ok , peugeot recommend cleaning that also on their 40k wet belt fuck up recall

What oil did you put in by the way. Isn't it meant to be a certain one

Baz do you think you be able to see the pickup mesh using a boroscope camara through the sump plug as a way of seeing if belt is starting to deteriorate?

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

No harm in trying

Is Ford Ecosport titanium turbo 1.0 turbo have the same problem and what’s your advice can I buy one at 33000 miles

Where are you based baz as I'm going to need my wet belt replaced soon i know if you do it I'm going to get a proper job done ?

Where did you buy the parts?

Had a few transit ones snap on the 2 litre

We have Citroen C4 , garage tried to replace wet belt , broken by the way and didn’t clean properly oil drain/pick up in sump . Guess what ! .. banging sound , bearings now need replaced/recon engine at 4k 🙄. Only done around 60k .

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

I will never do a wet belt without removing the sump. Do it properly or not at all

What is your thought process before starting such a big job Baz? By the way great video.

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

It's all an achievement buddy, nothing better than having something apart and rebuilding it, no matter the job bigger the better

How much does it cost to get done

I need to do timing belt replacement for 2015 75k km, but i cannot find the seal for water pump to timing cover

Hi Mate, great video. I was just wondering what the cost would be a for carrying out this repair job? Thanks

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

1k to £1400 buddy

@wumpty93

7 күн бұрын

£1300 to £2000 depending where to go. AVOID FORD DEALERS

Engineering on this engine shows how well DEI works.

how many time you need to make all job?

What manuel you using to get all your data from ? On the look for a new monthly to use.

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

Autodata buddy

They need to put a removable plate under the oil pump so you can scrape the crap out every now again. 😮

Isn't there a design flaw with the ecoboost engines where the belt degrates prematurely causing the oil pump to clog , starving the engine including the turbocharger, which then can make it fail ?

is this Launch 431 ???????

How much would you charge to do mine Baz

43k and mine went... useless! Thankfully it didn't kill it

What price approx for that job?

How much does this cost at a garage

What would this Cost roughly? i have a Fiesta 2017 on 72 almost 73k. with full history just no evidence of the belt been done? Thanks!

so is that the oil filter at 3:07 with the fibres in??? I've just brought a 18plate 1.0L with 19k miles on it, should I just make sure to get the oil changed and that filter at 3:07 cleared regularly??

@robertwillis4061

7 күн бұрын

Definitely do an oil change every 5 - 6k mikes. Use only Castrol Magnatex. 5w/20w ford Fords and a new filter. Do an oil change now, that's not a lot of mileage, so the car will have sat about for some time, the oil will have drained to the sump between drives. Most does normally, but a very thin layer takes a couple of days to run to the sump Meaning each start will take a few seconds for oil to get round all of the engine

Are the 2.0 mondeo eco blue engines a big job like that too, ford quoted me £1600 , I no main dealers are expensive but is that £1600 justified, if so I'd like someone to brake down all work involved.. cheers

Are those pliers normally used to remove wheel trim covers

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

Yep

My daughter’s eco boost fiesta failed yesterday, confirmed cam belt failure.

I had a wet belt snap on my 1.8 Diesel Mondeo, the car was scrapped 😢

Does anyone know the part number for the o ring shown at 33 seconds in this video?

hi .. can i know whats the part number of little rubber O-ring ( minutes 0.33) TQ

wow baz what a job!!! so how many hours labour is it?

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

It's a time consuming job day and half that's including a lot of cleaning and everything is torqued to spec and a test drive

@ilyassafraoui9835

2 ай бұрын

My Ford dealer told me it’s a 10 hour job

Enough to make you want to buy an EV.

How much?

I wonder if the Ford engineers actually thought about how the mechanics are supposed to service this belt, the engine designed around the belt it seems.

@chrispop99

3 ай бұрын

Their original thoughts were that the belt should outlast the car!

@PaulLorenzini-ny2yw

Ай бұрын

They want every single of these cars at the scrapper in 10 or so years so they can sell another car.

@chrispop99

Ай бұрын

@@PaulLorenzini-ny2ywThat's far from the truth; in most of the world new ICE vehicles will be outlawed by then.

@PaulLorenzini-ny2yw

Ай бұрын

@@chrispop99 I will not comply.

@chrispop99

Ай бұрын

@@PaulLorenzini-ny2yw How will you buy a new ICE car when none are available to buy?

Stumbled upon this vid looking for info on a potential new car purchase. Should I avoid this engine?

@rhysevans9611

3 ай бұрын

It's a big fat YES from me 😂

@leeroy1977

2 ай бұрын

Totally avoid this engine, had mine opened up today and told the belt had deteriorated and was at the point of snapping. Oil pressure light had been on for approx 5 miles. Ruined engine😢

What did this cost? Must have been at least 30% value of the car

Just going to renew the cambelt...firstly we need to remove the exhaust !!!

Just phoned a Ford dealership (Bishops Stortford) and the sales man said he didn’t know anything about it but when I mentioned that Ford in America are recalling these cars and he said he had heard that, but it’s not the same problem.. is he being truthful?

@MattF340

2 ай бұрын

Nope.

@alexaescht

2 ай бұрын

The American cars have a tensioner on the oil pump belt which is where they’re pointing the blame.

Did this job on my wife’s 2008, pain in the arse.

quick one always worried how the belt does not sit in the middle of the pulley

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

It keeps itself central

ulsesss video KM????

My ecoboost is now 10yrs old but only done 50k miles should i still get the belt changed as a matter of urgency?

@a3_tigar

3 ай бұрын

yes most definitely, rubber ages with time let alone being soaked in oil with the modern cleaning addatives

@charlotteliversidge2606

13 күн бұрын

I also have a Fiesta which the same age and mileage, most garages don't do wet timing belt changes around me... let me know if you get it done or find quotes

@fozzy3k1

12 күн бұрын

@charlotteliversidge2606 Hi yes I got mine done at my friends garage it takes a full day's labour to do because of where the belt is you're looking at anywhere between £1100 - £1400 annoyingly I was told the belt was in good condition once they replaced it so it would've probably been good for another year at least but that's the chance you take I guess.

No wonder I will never buy a euroboom engine from ford. Ford know it’s a problem engine and have been recalled in the USA. But not in the UK.

It's designed to eventually fail ,,so you buy another car 😮

Any bother bleeding the coolant system ?

@johnp6636

3 ай бұрын

Most places use vac filters for the cooling system brilliant bit of kit no bleeding needed

@bazmeredith

3 ай бұрын

Nope, straight forward

Was going to buy a 2018 fiesta ST line with 55k on it, until i found put about these engines. Not bothering now because in the next two to three years it will cost serious money either to replace the belt or sell the car with at substantial loss. Shame really.

Can’t believe a days money to change a belt

Hi bez this belt is against all engineering principles and the motor manufactures know this system is doomed this is a national disgrace my wife had wet belt issue and VX said nothing

@chrispop99

3 ай бұрын

Actually the engineering principles are sound. The wet belt adsorbs less power than a dry one, or a chain, and is quieter than a chain. It's the execution that is poor.

@kevwatson3661

3 ай бұрын

@@chrispop99 Sadly they don’t last very long .. 60k on ours , and the cost of replacing them is minimum £1500 and has to be done correctly like Baz has done . We just had wet belt replacement by garage and they didn’t clean oil drain part , engine bearings knackered now 🙄🤬

@chrispop99

3 ай бұрын

@@user-zk9xe3wm3vThe camchain kit is 30 quid cheaper than the cambelt kit for a typical EcoBoost - hardly massive. I'm also struggling to see where the space saving comes in to it. Wet belts reduce drag over chains or dry belts. All of current car designs are about fuel efficiency.

Great video baz how many hours in total

@bazmeredith

25 күн бұрын

A day buddy

And they call this progress not a saturday morning job or diy think I will get rid and bye a mk 2 escort

Just to give people an idea of how messed up the timing belt/oil pump job is in the United States. 1 dealership quoted me $2700. Another has no idea what I'm talking about. 2 independent shops declined the work.

@GrueneGurke1911

2 ай бұрын

I didnt knew that this engine was Sold in the us

@CrankDatPikachu93

2 ай бұрын

@GrueneGurke1911 I don't think the dealerships do either. The oil pump and belt just went on recall. 3 dealerships swear mine isn't on the recall, so I guess mine got pulled off the assembly line and was gold plated 🙄

What kind of argument is that from the tech people? Reduce noise. Yes it really does when it breaks cause it is soaked in oil.

If you don’t put a pin through the auxiliary pulley the car WILL NOT START😂 I haven’t done one yet but is he serious because I wouldn’t be surprised

Far better with timing chain. What a stupid idea a rubber or synthetic belt.

Bring back the 1.6 CVH 😂😂

@artfulbodger..2143

3 ай бұрын

They weren't without their faults. Mainly being servicing... The hydraulic tappets didn't take to old oil.. but overall, they were tough old lumps..

@johnp6636

3 ай бұрын

@@artfulbodger..2143 ran happily but noisily with no oil in them top them back up and they would just carry on I had an Escort Rs turbo back in the day the amount of abuse that thing put up with was unbelievable

For all those who asked how much(just like me😂) he says further down in the comments, 1000-1400 gbp!

Combustion valve hemisphere

Done a few of these now Ford have now issued a recall for the ecobangs

@FatHead1979

3 ай бұрын

Only in the USA and only for 2 specific models that were manufactured between specific date ranges.

@michaelc6325

3 ай бұрын

Ford have sold over 600000 thousand of these engines just in the uk alone.if just 5 percent are poorly maintained that’s over 30000 thousand vehicles blowing up so it feels worse than it actually is.I have had a 2025 ford 1.0 and not had a single issue with it !!

@jimr549

2 ай бұрын

​@@michaelc6325 I believe the new versions of this engine have a chain, no belt. And the problem has nothing to do with lack of maintenance, it's caused in large part to not using the correct oil which wasn't available in the US. I have one of these POS and have received my recall notice. Just waiting for the parts to be in stock for the recall. Before the recall I was quoted $3000.00 to do this job at the dealer. I've already replaced it with a new Subaru, just waiting to get this done so I can dump it. I'm a life long Ford guy but I'm done with them.

Simple answer to stop this buy Toyota 👍

And this is why nobody wants to be a mechanic anymore. Thank christ I left the car trade.

What a pile of crap don’t touch one with a barge pole get rid of you have got one , ford ! Ffs. 🤦‍♂️

Thank god i dont work on these junk ford engines, psa wet belts are an absolute dream to change compared to this! 😂

Fun cars to drive, good on fuel and 0 road tax. But this job alone £1300 or £1900 from ford themselves. Such a stupid design, just have a normal belt ffs. What is wrong with car manufactures?

1300 quid at a ford dealer.

@graemesmith4716

2 ай бұрын

Where was that I gut quoted £1900 in Scotland

@24567442

2 ай бұрын

@@graemesmith4716 wales mate and aberdare ford

One very important question is do you know JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR?

What a faff! Did no one tell the designers that rubber and oil are not the best of friends. If this is advanced engineering better think again! So typically ford in its complexity.

Horrible little engines.

Ford lost there way with simple cars why? Disgrace Ford.

Stupid design

That is a noisy nasty 3pot engine with a sh!t design.The wifes Aygo (2020) 3 cyl is really quiet and has a chain and 72 little ponies lol.

Piss poor design

Vraiment une merde ce moteur ...🙄

Fords wet belt 😂 worst engine ever made 😂

@StephanEsteban4711

Ай бұрын

Wet belt concepts are used by many OEM to deliver the challenging emission targets. They are durable if you change the oil frequently and use the right oil.